GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/m/linux@lemmy.ml/t/33723/Laptop-companies-which-one/top

Response
200 OK
IP
3.144.109.223
Profiled on
Token
9ec8d2

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
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context main
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user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
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  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
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 0.00 ms (none) 
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 0.11 ms (none) 
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 0.00 ms (none) 
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 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
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2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
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6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
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12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
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Access decision log

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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
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      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
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    Hello fellows,\n
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    I’m currently looking in 13-14" laptops with no immediate needs for one but just because it’s exciting. I love my Dell XPS but I feel I should support companies with which I share more common views. I could make the effort to go a with a less attractive look (especially for bezels) but I don’t want to go wrong with hardware so what are your thoughts on Framework, Starlab, Purism, and System76? I’ll be running Arch and I tend to have a preference for Framework for now.\n
    \n
    Do you have feedback (positive and negative) to share on any of these companies?\n
    \n
    Thanks for the knowledge you’ll bring me. That’ll be extremely useful when time comes to go with a new machine.\n
    \n
    **Update:** Still wonderful to be part of such a great community. Thanks for all the great feedback (looking for more :) ).  \n
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
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      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
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      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
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      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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    \n
    Do you have feedback (positive and negative) to share on any of these companies?\n
    \n
    Thanks for the knowledge you’ll bring me. That’ll be extremely useful when time comes to go with a new machine.\n
    \n
    **Update:** Still wonderful to be part of such a great community. Thanks for all the great feedback (looking for more :) ).  \n
    So far everyone is standing behind Framework. Anyone with a less positive experience or who would like to speak for the other companies?
    """
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
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      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
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    Sure do, though not for all the claims I’ll make here as that was from me obsessively watching the purism forumns and reddit over the 5 or so years this was going on. They promised a phone which most people didn’t get for five years. When it shipped the specs were not great especially for the already pricy cost they had it at. This, after quite heavily suggesting they were nearly good to go. When it came close to the end of waiting, they added a second option (no phones were in hands yet) to upgrade their order, at a cost, to skip the line and get it quicker. Suggesting that if it didn’t sell the company couldn’t ship the original either after taking money both from a crowdfunding campaign and their site. Though a few were eventually able to refund, they sneakily changed their policy to include “no refunds” when at time of purchase they stated clearly refunds would be available at request. There’s also been an issue with their laptops which were advertised as fully FOSS, etirely non-proprietary before eventually shipping with some proprietary software. All around, their customer service is terrible and their responces to allagations and critisism has been childish threats and legal attacks. All around bad group.\n
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    here’s some blog posts and an article:\n
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    [jaylittle.com/…/the-sad-saga-of-purism-and-the-li…](https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2019/10/the-sad-saga-of-purism-and-the-librem-5-part-1) (read all 3 parts)\n
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    [anarc.at/…/2020-07-13-not-recommending-purism/](https://anarc.at/blog/2020-07-13-not-recommending-purism/)\n
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    [pcworld.com/…/why-linux-enthusiasts-are-arguing-o…](https://www.pcworld.com/article/422917/why-linux-enthusiasts-are-arguing-over-purisms-sleek-idealistic-librem-laptops.html)\n
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    Here’s Luis Rossman (Not always correct on what he reports, but by my memory quite good here):  \n
    Youtube - [www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IjUryQOlgk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IjUryQOlgk)  \n
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        If you’re willing to import, tuxedo computers is another great choice. I can personally vouch for framework but I’d caution if you’re looking for the 16, it’ll be a bit before they’re available. 13ish batches pre-ordered, with batch one shipping in a few weeks, it may take quite a bit to get. The 13 though is in stock and shouldn’t take too long to recieve\n
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    Sure do, though not for all the claims I’ll make here as that was from me obsessively watching the purism forumns and reddit over the 5 or so years this was going on. They promised a phone which most people didn’t get for five years. When it shipped the specs were not great especially for the already pricy cost they had it at. This, after quite heavily suggesting they were nearly good to go. When it came close to the end of waiting, they added a second option (no phones were in hands yet) to upgrade their order, at a cost, to skip the line and get it quicker. Suggesting that if it didn’t sell the company couldn’t ship the original either after taking money both from a crowdfunding campaign and their site. Though a few were eventually able to refund, they sneakily changed their policy to include “no refunds” when at time of purchase they stated clearly refunds would be available at request. There’s also been an issue with their laptops which were advertised as fully FOSS, etirely non-proprietary before eventually shipping with some proprietary software. All around, their customer service is terrible and their responces to allagations and critisism has been childish threats and legal attacks. All around bad group.\n
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    here’s some blog posts and an article:\n
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    [anarc.at/…/2020-07-13-not-recommending-purism/](https://anarc.at/blog/2020-07-13-not-recommending-purism/)\n
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    [pcworld.com/…/why-linux-enthusiasts-are-arguing-o…](https://www.pcworld.com/article/422917/why-linux-enthusiasts-are-arguing-over-purisms-sleek-idealistic-librem-laptops.html)\n
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    Here’s Luis Rossman (Not always correct on what he reports, but by my memory quite good here):  \n
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        If you’re willing to import, tuxedo computers is another great choice. I can personally vouch for framework but I’d caution if you’re looking for the 16, it’ll be a bit before they’re available. 13ish batches pre-ordered, with batch one shipping in a few weeks, it may take quite a bit to get. The 13 though is in stock and shouldn’t take too long to recieve\n
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    Sure do, though not for all the claims I’ll make here as that was from me obsessively watching the purism forumns and reddit over the 5 or so years this was going on. They promised a phone which most people didn’t get for five years. When it shipped the specs were not great especially for the already pricy cost they had it at. This, after quite heavily suggesting they were nearly good to go. When it came close to the end of waiting, they added a second option (no phones were in hands yet) to upgrade their order, at a cost, to skip the line and get it quicker. Suggesting that if it didn’t sell the company couldn’t ship the original either after taking money both from a crowdfunding campaign and their site. Though a few were eventually able to refund, they sneakily changed their policy to include “no refunds” when at time of purchase they stated clearly refunds would be available at request. There’s also been an issue with their laptops which were advertised as fully FOSS, etirely non-proprietary before eventually shipping with some proprietary software. All around, their customer service is terrible and their responces to allagations and critisism has been childish threats and legal attacks. All around bad group.\n
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    here’s some blog posts and an article:\n
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    [jaylittle.com/…/the-sad-saga-of-purism-and-the-li…](https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2019/10/the-sad-saga-of-purism-and-the-librem-5-part-1) (read all 3 parts)\n
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    [anarc.at/…/2020-07-13-not-recommending-purism/](https://anarc.at/blog/2020-07-13-not-recommending-purism/)\n
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    [pcworld.com/…/why-linux-enthusiasts-are-arguing-o…](https://www.pcworld.com/article/422917/why-linux-enthusiasts-are-arguing-over-purisms-sleek-idealistic-librem-laptops.html)\n
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    Here’s Luis Rossman (Not always correct on what he reports, but by my memory quite good here):  \n
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    Piped - [piped.adminforge.de/watch?v=wKegmu0V75s](https://piped.adminforge.de/watch?v=wKegmu0V75s)
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          If you’re willing to import, tuxedo computers is another great choice. I can personally vouch for framework but I’d caution if you’re looking for the 16, it’ll be a bit before they’re available. 13ish batches pre-ordered, with batch one shipping in a few weeks, it may take quite a bit to get. The 13 though is in stock and shouldn’t take too long to recieve\n
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      Sure do, though not for all the claims I’ll make here as that was from me obsessively watching the purism forumns and reddit over the 5 or so years this was going on. They promised a phone which most people didn’t get for five years. When it shipped the specs were not great especially for the already pricy cost they had it at. This, after quite heavily suggesting they were nearly good to go. When it came close to the end of waiting, they added a second option (no phones were in hands yet) to upgrade their order, at a cost, to skip the line and get it quicker. Suggesting that if it didn’t sell the company couldn’t ship the original either after taking money both from a crowdfunding campaign and their site. Though a few were eventually able to refund, they sneakily changed their policy to include “no refunds” when at time of purchase they stated clearly refunds would be available at request. There’s also been an issue with their laptops which were advertised as fully FOSS, etirely non-proprietary before eventually shipping with some proprietary software. All around, their customer service is terrible and their responces to allagations and critisism has been childish threats and legal attacks. All around bad group.\n
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      [jaylittle.com/…/the-sad-saga-of-purism-and-the-li…](https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2019/10/the-sad-saga-of-purism-and-the-librem-5-part-1) (read all 3 parts)\n
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      [anarc.at/…/2020-07-13-not-recommending-purism/](https://anarc.at/blog/2020-07-13-not-recommending-purism/)\n
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      [pcworld.com/…/why-linux-enthusiasts-are-arguing-o…](https://www.pcworld.com/article/422917/why-linux-enthusiasts-are-arguing-over-purisms-sleek-idealistic-librem-laptops.html)\n
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      Piped - [piped.adminforge.de/watch?v=wKegmu0V75s](https://piped.adminforge.de/watch?v=wKegmu0V75s)
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          If you’re willing to import, tuxedo computers is another great choice. I can personally vouch for framework but I’d caution if you’re looking for the 16, it’ll be a bit before they’re available. 13ish batches pre-ordered, with batch one shipping in a few weeks, it may take quite a bit to get. The 13 though is in stock and shouldn’t take too long to recieve\n
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      Sure do, though not for all the claims I’ll make here as that was from me obsessively watching the purism forumns and reddit over the 5 or so years this was going on. They promised a phone which most people didn’t get for five years. When it shipped the specs were not great especially for the already pricy cost they had it at. This, after quite heavily suggesting they were nearly good to go. When it came close to the end of waiting, they added a second option (no phones were in hands yet) to upgrade their order, at a cost, to skip the line and get it quicker. Suggesting that if it didn’t sell the company couldn’t ship the original either after taking money both from a crowdfunding campaign and their site. Though a few were eventually able to refund, they sneakily changed their policy to include “no refunds” when at time of purchase they stated clearly refunds would be available at request. There’s also been an issue with their laptops which were advertised as fully FOSS, etirely non-proprietary before eventually shipping with some proprietary software. All around, their customer service is terrible and their responces to allagations and critisism has been childish threats and legal attacks. All around bad group.\n
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      here’s some blog posts and an article:\n
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      [jaylittle.com/…/the-sad-saga-of-purism-and-the-li…](https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2019/10/the-sad-saga-of-purism-and-the-librem-5-part-1) (read all 3 parts)\n
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      [anarc.at/…/2020-07-13-not-recommending-purism/](https://anarc.at/blog/2020-07-13-not-recommending-purism/)\n
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      [pcworld.com/…/why-linux-enthusiasts-are-arguing-o…](https://www.pcworld.com/article/422917/why-linux-enthusiasts-are-arguing-over-purisms-sleek-idealistic-librem-laptops.html)\n
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      Here’s Luis Rossman (Not always correct on what he reports, but by my memory quite good here):  \n
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      I’m currently looking in 13-14" laptops with no immediate needs for one but just because it’s exciting. I love my Dell XPS but I feel I should support companies with which I share more common views. I could make the effort to go a with a less attractive look (especially for bezels) but I don’t want to go wrong with hardware so what are your thoughts on Framework, Starlab, Purism, and System76? I’ll be running Arch and I tend to have a preference for Framework for now.\n
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      Do you have feedback (positive and negative) to share on any of these companies?\n
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      Thanks for the knowledge you’ll bring me. That’ll be extremely useful when time comes to go with a new machine.\n
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      **Update:** Still wonderful to be part of such a great community. Thanks for all the great feedback (looking for more :) ).  \n
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          If you’re willing to import, tuxedo computers is another great choice. I can personally vouch for framework but I’d caution if you’re looking for the 16, it’ll be a bit before they’re available. 13ish batches pre-ordered, with batch one shipping in a few weeks, it may take quite a bit to get. The 13 though is in stock and shouldn’t take too long to recieve\n
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      Sure do, though not for all the claims I’ll make here as that was from me obsessively watching the purism forumns and reddit over the 5 or so years this was going on. They promised a phone which most people didn’t get for five years. When it shipped the specs were not great especially for the already pricy cost they had it at. This, after quite heavily suggesting they were nearly good to go. When it came close to the end of waiting, they added a second option (no phones were in hands yet) to upgrade their order, at a cost, to skip the line and get it quicker. Suggesting that if it didn’t sell the company couldn’t ship the original either after taking money both from a crowdfunding campaign and their site. Though a few were eventually able to refund, they sneakily changed their policy to include “no refunds” when at time of purchase they stated clearly refunds would be available at request. There’s also been an issue with their laptops which were advertised as fully FOSS, etirely non-proprietary before eventually shipping with some proprietary software. All around, their customer service is terrible and their responces to allagations and critisism has been childish threats and legal attacks. All around bad group.\n
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      here’s some blog posts and an article:\n
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      [jaylittle.com/…/the-sad-saga-of-purism-and-the-li…](https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2019/10/the-sad-saga-of-purism-and-the-librem-5-part-1) (read all 3 parts)\n
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      [anarc.at/…/2020-07-13-not-recommending-purism/](https://anarc.at/blog/2020-07-13-not-recommending-purism/)\n
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      [pcworld.com/…/why-linux-enthusiasts-are-arguing-o…](https://www.pcworld.com/article/422917/why-linux-enthusiasts-are-arguing-over-purisms-sleek-idealistic-librem-laptops.html)\n
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      Here’s Luis Rossman (Not always correct on what he reports, but by my memory quite good here):  \n
      Youtube - [www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IjUryQOlgk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IjUryQOlgk)  \n
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      Piped - [piped.adminforge.de/watch?v=wKegmu0V75s](https://piped.adminforge.de/watch?v=wKegmu0V75s)
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