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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
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context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
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  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
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Listeners

Listener Duration Response
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0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
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0.23 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
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0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
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0.04 ms (none)
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0.00 ms (none)
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0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
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2
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3
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4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
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Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
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      ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
      **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
      \n
      **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
      \n
      **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
      \n
      **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
      \n
      **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
      \n
      - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
      - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
      - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
      - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
      \n
      [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
      \n
      ---
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    Gnarly-Repacks is requesting donations for the renewal bill for their site and I know FitGirl sporadically makes requests for donations as well. It makes me curious what range of expenses do sites like these incur and what they are.\n
    \n
    I do vaguely recall The Pirate Bay 2013 documentary [TPB AFK](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTOKXCEwo_8) talking a bit about their revenue but I don’t know if they talked much about their expenses.
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
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      ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
      **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
      \n
      **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
      \n
      **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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      **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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      **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
      \n
      - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
      - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
      - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
      - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
      \n
      [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
      \n
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    Gnarly-Repacks is requesting donations for the renewal bill for their site and I know FitGirl sporadically makes requests for donations as well. It makes me curious what range of expenses do sites like these incur and what they are.\n
    \n
    I do vaguely recall The Pirate Bay 2013 documentary [TPB AFK](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTOKXCEwo_8) talking a bit about their revenue but I don’t know if they talked much about their expenses.
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS DENIED
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
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      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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      **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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      **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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      \n
      [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
      \n
      - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
      - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
      - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
      - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
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      \n
      💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
      \n
      [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
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    Now, I’m not talking about exactly the same thing here. And I don’t actually run *any* sites at this point in my life.\n
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        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
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    Everything is way overpriced\n
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        ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
        \n
        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
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        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
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    Everything is way overpriced\n
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        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
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        Anyone can spin up a website for cheap and serve torrents for the heavy lifting. At least when you know people will seed your stuff, which is the case it seems.\n
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    Dude it’s a piracy community. People do it for free. Some people ask for help to continue doing it.\n
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          Person spending days and weeks to make content, repacks it and makes it available for free.\n
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          Person downloading and using it for free: why are you asking for money?\n
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          Anyone can spin up a website for cheap and serve torrents for the heavy lifting. At least when you know people will seed your stuff, which is the case it seems.\n
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          Maybe the website takes a big load, IDK, but did you consider that asking for funds for the site isn’t (only) for paying the hoster? It’s for paying for the site, for supper, pc parts and the games, work, among others. Seems to be quite exclusive work too.\n
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      Dude it’s a piracy community. People do it for free. Some people ask for help to continue doing it.\n
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      That’s it.
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    I’m not asking asking this as a put-down, but is English not your first language? Allow me to try and say it all differently.\n
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    What you’re saying is that the *people* perform the necessary tasks without expecting did be paid for their labor, but some ask contributions for it.\n
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    What OP was asking is what those people (the ones running a site to maken the fruit of their labor available to others) have to pay in order to make it available.\n
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    We’re well aware that the *labor* is possibly free.\n
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    But it still costs *someone* money to host a site with a domain name and the ability for other people to download anything. *That’s* what OP was asking about, those costs *to the person providing the files that get pirated by others*.\n
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        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
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          Anyone can spin up a website for cheap and serve torrents for the heavy lifting. At least when you know people will seed your stuff, which is the case it seems.\n
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          Maybe the website takes a big load, IDK, but did you consider that asking for funds for the site isn’t (only) for paying the hoster? It’s for paying for the site, for supper, pc parts and the games, work, among others. Seems to be quite exclusive work too.\n
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      Dude it’s a piracy community. People do it for free. Some people ask for help to continue doing it.\n
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      That’s it.
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    I’m not asking asking this as a put-down, but is English not your first language? Allow me to try and say it all differently.\n
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    What you’re saying is that the *people* perform the necessary tasks without expecting did be paid for their labor, but some ask contributions for it.\n
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    What OP was asking is what those people (the ones running a site to maken the fruit of their labor available to others) have to pay in order to make it available.\n
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    We’re well aware that the *labor* is possibly free.\n
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    But it still costs *someone* money to host a site with a domain name and the ability for other people to download anything. *That’s* what OP was asking about, those costs *to the person providing the files that get pirated by others*.\n
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          Person spending days and weeks to make content, repacks it and makes it available for free.\n
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          Anyone can spin up a website for cheap and serve torrents for the heavy lifting. At least when you know people will seed your stuff, which is the case it seems.\n
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          Maybe the website takes a big load, IDK, but did you consider that asking for funds for the site isn’t (only) for paying the hoster? It’s for paying for the site, for supper, pc parts and the games, work, among others. Seems to be quite exclusive work too.\n
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      Dude it’s a piracy community. People do it for free. Some people ask for help to continue doing it.\n
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      That’s it.
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    I’m not asking asking this as a put-down, but is English not your first language? Allow me to try and say it all differently.\n
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    What you’re saying is that the *people* perform the necessary tasks without expecting did be paid for their labor, but some ask contributions for it.\n
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    What OP was asking is what those people (the ones running a site to maken the fruit of their labor available to others) have to pay in order to make it available.\n
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    We’re well aware that the *labor* is possibly free.\n
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    But it still costs *someone* money to host a site with a domain name and the ability for other people to download anything. *That’s* what OP was asking about, those costs *to the person providing the files that get pirated by others*.\n
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        ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
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        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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      Dude it’s a piracy community. People do it for free. Some people ask for help to continue doing it.\n
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          Person spending days and weeks to make content, repacks it and makes it available for free.\n
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          Person downloading and using it for free: why are you asking for money?\n
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          Anyone can spin up a website for cheap and serve torrents for the heavy lifting. At least when you know people will seed your stuff, which is the case it seems.\n
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          Maybe the website takes a big load, IDK, but did you consider that asking for funds for the site isn’t (only) for paying the hoster? It’s for paying for the site, for supper, pc parts and the games, work, among others. Seems to be quite exclusive work too.\n
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      Dude it’s a piracy community. People do it for free. Some people ask for help to continue doing it.\n
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      That’s it.
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