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      [theverge.com/…/google-memo-moat-ai-leak-demis-has…](https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/10/23790132/google-memo-moat-ai-leak-demis-hassabis)\n
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          A wild guess, but could it be Microsoft?\n
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          I mean they are already creating use cases and integrating them in their apps, especially their business suite.\n
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        Microsoft currently lack the internal know how on AI. It is behind. They are the best understanding the average user/company needs, but they currently depend on openai. Either the buy openai (risking to destroy it because Microsoft is relatively bad at real research and cutting edge engineering) or they need to invest a lot more than Google.\n
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