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Components

21 Twig Components
87 Render Count
71 ms Render Time
12.0 MiB Memory Usage

Components

Name Metadata Render Count Render Time
settings_row_switch
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_settings_row_switch.html.twig
15 1.94ms
date
"App\Twig\Components\DateComponent"
components/date.html.twig
9 1.50ms
user_inline
"App\Twig\Components\UserInlineComponent"
components/user_inline.html.twig
8 1.65ms
date_edited
"App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent"
components/date_edited.html.twig
8 0.95ms
vote
"App\Twig\Components\VoteComponent"
components/vote.html.twig
8 3.03ms
boost
"App\Twig\Components\BoostComponent"
components/boost.html.twig
8 8.20ms
entry_comment
"App\Twig\Components\EntryCommentComponent"
components/entry_comment.html.twig
7 46.22ms
user_avatar
"App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent"
components/user_avatar.html.twig
7 1.27ms
user_settings_row_switch
"App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_user_settings_row_switch.html.twig
4 0.63ms
settings_row_enum
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent"
components/_settings_row_enum.html.twig
2 0.36ms
user_box
"App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent"
components/user_box.html.twig
1 3.35ms
user_actions
"App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent"
components/user_actions.html.twig
1 0.85ms
entry
"App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 10.92ms
magazine_inline
"App\Twig\Components\MagazineInlineComponent"
components/magazine_inline.html.twig
1 0.21ms
related_magazines
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 2.08ms
active_users
"App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 0.27ms
related_categories
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 1.26ms
related_posts
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 1.50ms
related_entries
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 1.45ms
support_us_block
"App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 0.23ms
featured_magazines
"App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 0.92ms

Render calls

user_box App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent 12.0 MiB 3.35 ms
Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent {#2644
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    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#238 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#196 …}
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    +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#111 …}
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    +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1479 …}
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}
user_actions App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent 12.0 MiB 0.85 ms
Input props
[
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    +cover: null
    +email: "UlyssesT@hexbear.net"
    +username: "@UlyssesT@hexbear.net"
    +roles: []
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    +lastActive: DateTime @1723610824 {#275
      date: 2024-08-14 06:47:04.0 +02:00
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent {#2826
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Input props
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        Welcome to c/science_memes @ Mander.xyz!\n
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        > A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.\n
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        **Rules**\n
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        1. Don’t throw mud. Behave like an intellectual and remember the human.\n
        2. Keep it rooted (on topic).\n
        3. No spam.\n
        4. Infographics welcome, get schooled.\n
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        Research Committee\n
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        - [!spiders@lemmy.world](/c/spiders@lemmy.world)\n
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        Other Mander Communities\n
        ------------------------\n
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        ### Science and Research\n
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        - [!academia@mander.xyz](/c/academia@mander.xyz)\n
        - [!science@mander.xyz](/c/science@mander.xyz)\n
        - [!scicomm@mander.xyz](/c/scicomm@mander.xyz)\n
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        - [!animal-behavior@mander.xyz](/c/animal-behavior@mander.xyz)\n
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        - [!earthscience@mander.xyz](/c/earthscience@mander.xyz)\n
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        - [!quantum-computing@mander.xyz](/c/qubits@mander.xyz)\n
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        - [!history@mander.xyz](/c/history@mander.xyz)\n
        - [!old_maps@mander.xyz](/c/old_maps@mander.xyz)\n
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        - [!gardening@mander.xyz](/c/gardening@mander.xyz)\n
        - [!self sufficiency@mander.xyz](/c/self-sufficiency@mander.xyz)\n
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        - [!terrariums@mander.xyz](/c/terrariums@mander.xyz)\n
        - [!timelapse@mander.xyz](/c/timelapse@mander.xyz)\n
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        ### Memes\n
        \n
        - [!bushrat_confidential@slrpnk.net](/c/bushrat_confidential@slrpnk.net)\n
        - [!science_memes@mander.xyz](/c/science_memes@mander.xyz)\n
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        ### Miscellaneous\n
        \n
        - [!answered@mander.xyz](/c/answered@mander.xyz)\n
        - [!mander@mander.xyz](/c/mander@mander.xyz)
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      [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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          The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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          EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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          Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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          > I’m sorry,\n
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          ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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          > But “the dominant source of academic science is race science” therefore we need barriers to all science ain’t it\n
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          Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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          You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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          EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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          Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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          [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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          > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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          > Release all the science.\n
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          It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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          The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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          EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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          Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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          > I’m sorry,\n
          \n
          ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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          Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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          You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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          EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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          Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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          [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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          > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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          > Release all the science.\n
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          It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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          > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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          That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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          You really seem to be more in favor of “race science” than antivax nonsense, and they are *both* nonsense.
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          > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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          Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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          > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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          You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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          EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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          Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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          [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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          > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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          > Release all the science.\n
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          > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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          That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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          > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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          > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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      [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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          The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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          EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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          Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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          > I’m sorry,\n
          \n
          ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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          > But “the dominant source of academic science is race science” therefore we need barriers to all science ain’t it\n
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          Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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          You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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          EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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          Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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          [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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          > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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          > Release all the science.\n
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          It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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          > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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          That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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          The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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          Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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          > I’m sorry,\n
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          ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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          You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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          Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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          [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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          > Release all the science.\n
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          > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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          > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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          The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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          EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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          Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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          > I’m sorry,\n
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          ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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          > But “the dominant source of academic science is race science” therefore we need barriers to all science ain’t it\n
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          You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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          Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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          > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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          That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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          > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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          Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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          > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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        [reddit.com/…/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my…](https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/177rsze/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my_countrys/)\n
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            > But “the dominant source of academic science is race science” therefore we need barriers to all science ain’t it\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            You really seem to be more in favor of “race science” than antivax nonsense, and they are *both* nonsense.
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            It does when you keep proclaiming the distribution of “all” science, false/shitty and whatnot, if you’re arbitrarily in favor of it under some pious ideal of “set it *all* free.”
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      The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            It does when you keep proclaiming the distribution of “all” science, false/shitty and whatnot, if you’re arbitrarily in favor of it under some pious ideal of “set it *all* free.”
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      The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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      EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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      Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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        [reddit.com/…/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my…](https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/177rsze/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my_countrys/)\n
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            > But “the dominant source of academic science is race science” therefore we need barriers to all science ain’t it\n
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            It does when you keep proclaiming the distribution of “all” science, false/shitty and whatnot, if you’re arbitrarily in favor of it under some pious ideal of “set it *all* free.”
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      The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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      EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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      Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            It does when you keep proclaiming the distribution of “all” science, false/shitty and whatnot, if you’re arbitrarily in favor of it under some pious ideal of “set it *all* free.”
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      The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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          =========================================\n
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          > A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.\n
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          ---\n
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          4. Infographics welcome, get schooled.\n
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          ---\n
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          ---\n
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          Research Committee\n
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          ------------------------\n
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          \n
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          - [!science@mander.xyz](/c/science@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!scicomm@mander.xyz](/c/scicomm@mander.xyz)\n
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          - [!plants@mander.xyz](/c/plants@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!reptiles and amphibians@mander.xyz](/c/herpetology@mander.xyz)\n
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          - [!chemistry@mander.xyz](/c/chemistry@mander.xyz)\n
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          - [!quantum-computing@mander.xyz](/c/qubits@mander.xyz)\n
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          - [!folklore@mander.xyz](/c/folklore@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!history@mander.xyz](/c/history@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!old_maps@mander.xyz](/c/old_maps@mander.xyz)\n
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          - [!gardening@mander.xyz](/c/gardening@mander.xyz)\n
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          - [!timelapse@mander.xyz](/c/timelapse@mander.xyz)\n
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          \n
          - [!bushrat_confidential@slrpnk.net](/c/bushrat_confidential@slrpnk.net)\n
          - [!science_memes@mander.xyz](/c/science_memes@mander.xyz)\n
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          \n
          - [!answered@mander.xyz](/c/answered@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!mander@mander.xyz](/c/mander@mander.xyz)
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        [reddit.com/…/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my…](https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/177rsze/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my_countrys/)\n
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            > But “the dominant source of academic science is race science” therefore we need barriers to all science ain’t it\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            You really seem to be more in favor of “race science” than antivax nonsense, and they are *both* nonsense.
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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      The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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      EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            It does when you keep proclaiming the distribution of “all” science, false/shitty and whatnot, if you’re arbitrarily in favor of it under some pious ideal of “set it *all* free.”
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      The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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      EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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      Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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        [reddit.com/…/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my…](https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/177rsze/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my_countrys/)\n
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            It does when you keep proclaiming the distribution of “all” science, false/shitty and whatnot, if you’re arbitrarily in favor of it under some pious ideal of “set it *all* free.”
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      > I’m sorry,\n
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      ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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      Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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          - [!science@mander.xyz](/c/science@mander.xyz)\n
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        [reddit.com/…/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my…](https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/177rsze/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my_countrys/)\n
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            It does when you keep proclaiming the distribution of “all” science, false/shitty and whatnot, if you’re arbitrarily in favor of it under some pious ideal of “set it *all* free.”
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      > I’m sorry,\n
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      ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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      Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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          - [!science@mander.xyz](/c/science@mander.xyz)\n
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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        [reddit.com/…/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my…](https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/177rsze/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my_countrys/)\n
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            You really seem to be more in favor of “race science” than antivax nonsense, and they are *both* nonsense.
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            It does when you keep proclaiming the distribution of “all” science, false/shitty and whatnot, if you’re arbitrarily in favor of it under some pious ideal of “set it *all* free.”
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            You really seem to be more in favor of “race science” than antivax nonsense, and they are *both* nonsense.
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            > But “the dominant source of academic science is race science” therefore we need barriers to all science ain’t it\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            You really seem to be more in favor of “race science” than antivax nonsense, and they are *both* nonsense.
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            > But “the dominant source of academic science is race science” therefore we need barriers to all science ain’t it\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            You really seem to be more in favor of “race science” than antivax nonsense, and they are *both* nonsense.
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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          - [!science@mander.xyz](/c/science@mander.xyz)\n
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            It does when you keep proclaiming the distribution of “all” science, false/shitty and whatnot, if you’re arbitrarily in favor of it under some pious ideal of “set it *all* free.”
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          - [!science@mander.xyz](/c/science@mander.xyz)\n
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        [reddit.com/…/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my…](https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/177rsze/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my_countrys/)\n
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            > But “the dominant source of academic science is race science” therefore we need barriers to all science ain’t it\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            You really seem to be more in favor of “race science” than antivax nonsense, and they are *both* nonsense.
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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      Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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      [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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        [reddit.com/…/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my…](https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/177rsze/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my_countrys/)\n
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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          ---\n
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          - [!science@mander.xyz](/c/science@mander.xyz)\n
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          - [!history@mander.xyz](/c/history@mander.xyz)\n
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          - [!science_memes@mander.xyz](/c/science_memes@mander.xyz)\n
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          \n
          - [!answered@mander.xyz](/c/answered@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!mander@mander.xyz](/c/mander@mander.xyz)
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            > But “the dominant source of academic science is race science” therefore we need barriers to all science ain’t it\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            You really seem to be more in favor of “race science” than antivax nonsense, and they are *both* nonsense.
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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          - [!science@mander.xyz](/c/science@mander.xyz)\n
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            It does when you keep proclaiming the distribution of “all” science, false/shitty and whatnot, if you’re arbitrarily in favor of it under some pious ideal of “set it *all* free.”
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      > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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        [reddit.com/…/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my…](https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/177rsze/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my_countrys/)\n
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            It does when you keep proclaiming the distribution of “all” science, false/shitty and whatnot, if you’re arbitrarily in favor of it under some pious ideal of “set it *all* free.”
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      > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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          > A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.\n
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          ---\n
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          1. Don’t throw mud. Behave like an intellectual and remember the human.\n
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          ---\n
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          ---\n
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          Research Committee\n
          ------------------\n
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          - [!spiders@lemmy.world](/c/spiders@lemmy.world)\n
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          ------------------------\n
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          - [!academia@mander.xyz](/c/academia@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!science@mander.xyz](/c/science@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!scicomm@mander.xyz](/c/scicomm@mander.xyz)\n
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          - [!plants@mander.xyz](/c/plants@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!reptiles and amphibians@mander.xyz](/c/herpetology@mander.xyz)\n
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          - [!astronomy@mander.xyz](/c/astronomy@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!chemistry@mander.xyz](/c/chemistry@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!earthscience@mander.xyz](/c/earthscience@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!geography@mander.xyz](/c/geography@mander.xyz)\n
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          - [!quantum-computing@mander.xyz](/c/qubits@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!spectroscopy@mander.xyz](/c/spectroscopy@mander.xyz)\n
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          - [!folklore@mander.xyz](/c/folklore@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!history@mander.xyz](/c/history@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!old_maps@mander.xyz](/c/old_maps@mander.xyz)\n
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          \n
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          - [!gardening@mander.xyz](/c/gardening@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!self sufficiency@mander.xyz](/c/self-sufficiency@mander.xyz)\n
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          - [!terrariums@mander.xyz](/c/terrariums@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!timelapse@mander.xyz](/c/timelapse@mander.xyz)\n
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          \n
          - [!bushrat_confidential@slrpnk.net](/c/bushrat_confidential@slrpnk.net)\n
          - [!science_memes@mander.xyz](/c/science_memes@mander.xyz)\n
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          ### Miscellaneous\n
          \n
          - [!answered@mander.xyz](/c/answered@mander.xyz)\n
          - [!mander@mander.xyz](/c/mander@mander.xyz)
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            > But “the dominant source of academic science is race science” therefore we need barriers to all science ain’t it\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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      > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            You really seem to be more in favor of “race science” than antivax nonsense, and they are *both* nonsense.
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            > But “the dominant source of academic science is race science” therefore we need barriers to all science ain’t it\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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        [reddit.com/…/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my…](https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/177rsze/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my_countrys/)\n
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            > But “the dominant source of academic science is race science” therefore we need barriers to all science ain’t it\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            You really seem to be more in favor of “race science” than antivax nonsense, and they are *both* nonsense.
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            You really seem to be more in favor of “race science” than antivax nonsense, and they are *both* nonsense.
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            Are you suggesting there should be *no* arbiter?
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      > it does not have anything to do with the output of most scientific endeavor\n
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        [reddit.com/…/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my…](https://www.reddit.com/r/scihub/comments/177rsze/a_mural_in_the_science_faculty_of_my_countrys/)\n
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            > But “the dominant source of academic science is race science” therefore we need barriers to all science ain’t it\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            You really seem to be more in favor of “race science” than antivax nonsense, and they are *both* nonsense.
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            > But “the dominant source of academic science is race science” therefore we need barriers to all science ain’t it\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            It’s clearly a losing battle within that community if you’re making excuses for “shitty” science getting attention that it both doesn’t deserve and that will actually harm people.
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        [radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra](https://radiolab.org/podcast/library-alexandra)
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            The media and the general population do *not* recognize any one single specific scientific organization as an authority to depend upon, so being smug about your claimed place in the ivory tower does nothing to stop people from getting false science from somewhere other than that ivory tower.\n
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            EDIT: And how exactly are those masses that you condescend to supposed to distinguish “shitty” science from outright *false* science? And why should “shitty” science things be given validity and attention (which may well include race science because you never said otherwise in this thread) while you somehow distinguish that away from antivax nonsense? They’re both nonsense but you seem to be making pious excuses for one kind of it.\n
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            Stating “post all the science” must feel good to say but it does *nothing* to stop the posting of false science calling itself science and many people going along with that. You yourself claimed (or feigned) ignorance of race science as false science, which shows just how insidious such things really are.
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            > I’m sorry,\n
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            ![smuglord](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/97a4a756-428f-4517-846a-1c810805ad28.png "emoji smuglord")\n
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            Cut the bullshit and just tell us how badly you enjoy calipers and racism masquerading as science.
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            You’re conjuring up a false exaggerated position no one here took (“require many barriers to science”) and making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.\n
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            EDIT: Fine. You quoted one person. That doesn’t justify making dubious excuses for “shitty” science under pretense of “release *all* the science, shitty/false or otherwise” idealism.
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            Are you doing a blowhard long winded workaround way of calipers-free-but-still-racist “shitty” science under pious pretenses of it still being scientific enough to get attention?\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4)\n
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            > Who is the arbiter of what compromises junk science, if not the scientific community?\n
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            > Release all the science.\n
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            > If we want to combat misinformation we should be encouraging people to trust scientists\n
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            That sounds really grand on paper but in reality the societal definition of who a scientist is (and who is a credible scientist) is blurred to the point that you can piously disavow antivax conspiracy theories (some of them pushed by quack scientists with dubious qualifications) but *also* proclaim that even “shit science” should be freely released for all to see (with “race science” being mentioned in particular with you glibly disavowing knowledge of it) and you still haven’t provided a distinct measurable difference between the two.\n
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            > And again, who are you suggesting should be the arbiter?\n
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  "defaultValue" => "RIGHT"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#8372
  +label: "Sidebar position"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_SIDEBAR_POSITION"
  +values: [
    [
      "name" => "Left"
      "value" => "LEFT"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "Right"
      "value" => "RIGHT"
    ]
  ]
  +defaultValue: "RIGHT"
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.18 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Dynamic lists"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_DYNAMIC_LISTS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8444
  +label: "Dynamic lists"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_DYNAMIC_LISTS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Rounded edges"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_ROUNDED_EDGES"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8507
  +label: "Rounded edges"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_ROUNDED_EDGES"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Infinite scrolling"
  "help" => "Automatically load more content when you reach the bottom of the page."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_INFINITE_SCROLL"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8563
  +label: "Infinite scrolling"
  +help: "Automatically load more content when you reach the bottom of the page."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_INFINITE_SCROLL"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Sticky navbar"
  "help" => "The navbar will stick to the top of the page when you scroll down."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_FIXED_NAVBAR"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8622
  +label: "Sticky navbar"
  +help: "The navbar will stick to the top of the page when you scroll down."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_FIXED_NAVBAR"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show top bar"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_TOPBAR"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8678
  +label: "Show top bar"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TOPBAR"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.16 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Turbo mode (experimental)"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8734
  +label: "Turbo mode (experimental)"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.22 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Mark new comments"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8792
  +label: "Mark new comments"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.13 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show "Support Us" block"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8855
  +label: "Show "Support Us" block"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed users"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8913
  +label: "Show subscribed users"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed magazines"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#8969
  +label: "Show subscribed magazines"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed domains"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9025
  +label: "Show subscribed domains"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Auto media preview"
  "help" => "Automatically expand media previews."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9081
  +label: "Auto media preview"
  +help: "Automatically expand media previews."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Compact view"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9137
  +label: "Compact view"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.14 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show users’ avatars"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9193
  +label: "Show users’ avatars"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show magazines’ icons"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9249
  +label: "Show magazines’ icons"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show thumbnails"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9305
  +label: "Show thumbnails"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Auto media preview"
  "help" => "Automatically expand media previews."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9361
  +label: "Auto media preview"
  +help: "Automatically expand media previews."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show users’ avatars"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9417
  +label: "Show users’ avatars"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_enum App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent 12.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Comment reply position"
  "help" => "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION"
  "values" => [
    [
      "name" => "top"
      "value" => "TOP"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "bottom"
      "value" => "BOTTOM"
    ]
  ]
  "defaultValue" => "TOP"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#9473
  +label: "Comment reply position"
  +help: "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION"
  +values: [
    [
      "name" => "top"
      "value" => "TOP"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "bottom"
      "value" => "BOTTOM"
    ]
  ]
  +defaultValue: "TOP"
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show Comment Avatars"
  "help" => "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#9531
  +label: "Show Comment Avatars"
  +help: "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
date App\Twig\Components\DateComponent 12.0 MiB 0.13 ms
Input props
[
  "date" => DateTimeImmutable @1696436095 {#268
    date: 2023-10-04 18:14:55.0 +02:00
  }
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#9604
  +date: DateTimeImmutable @1696436095 {#268
    date: 2023-10-04 18:14:55.0 +02:00
  }
}
related_magazines App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent 12.0 MiB 2.08 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent {#9691
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +title: "random_magazines"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#1370 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
active_users App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent 12.0 MiB 0.27 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent {#9756
  +magazine: null
  -userRepository: App\Repository\UserRepository {#603 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_categories App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent 12.0 MiB 1.26 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#9815
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +title: "random_categories"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\CategoryRepository {#9816 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_posts App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent 12.0 MiB 1.50 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#9885
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +post: null
  +title: "random_posts"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\PostRepository {#1681 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1504 …}
}
related_entries App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent 12.0 MiB 1.45 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#9954
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +entry: null
  +title: "random_entries"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\EntryRepository {#1759 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1504 …}
}
support_us_block App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock 12.0 MiB 0.23 ms
Input props
[]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#10023
  +subject: ? App\Entity\Contracts\VotableInterface
  +url: ? string
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -partnerBlockRepository: App\Repository\PartnerBlockRepository {#10024 …}
}
featured_magazines App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent 12.0 MiB 0.92 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#10116
  +magazine: null
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#1370 …}
}