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Components

21 Twig Components
143 Render Count
900 ms Render Time
14.0 MiB Memory Usage

Components

Name Metadata Render Count Render Time
date
"App\Twig\Components\DateComponent"
components/date.html.twig
17 14.16ms
user_inline
"App\Twig\Components\UserInlineComponent"
components/user_inline.html.twig
16 19.20ms
date_edited
"App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent"
components/date_edited.html.twig
16 17.90ms
vote
"App\Twig\Components\VoteComponent"
components/vote.html.twig
16 17.04ms
boost
"App\Twig\Components\BoostComponent"
components/boost.html.twig
16 68.27ms
settings_row_switch
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_settings_row_switch.html.twig
15 39.22ms
entry_comment
"App\Twig\Components\EntryCommentComponent"
components/entry_comment.html.twig
13 533.14ms
user_avatar
"App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent"
components/user_avatar.html.twig
13 6.04ms
user_settings_row_switch
"App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_user_settings_row_switch.html.twig
4 1.10ms
entry
"App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
3 176.01ms
magazine_inline
"App\Twig\Components\MagazineInlineComponent"
components/magazine_inline.html.twig
3 0.63ms
settings_row_enum
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent"
components/_settings_row_enum.html.twig
2 0.48ms
user_box
"App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent"
components/user_box.html.twig
1 34.30ms
user_actions
"App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent"
components/user_actions.html.twig
1 1.09ms
related_magazines
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 29.61ms
active_users
"App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 1.46ms
related_categories
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 21.72ms
related_posts
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 11.37ms
related_entries
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 19.51ms
support_us_block
"App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 1.28ms
featured_magazines
"App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 31.24ms

Render calls

user_box App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent 12.0 MiB 34.30 ms
Input props
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserBoxComponent {#2737
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}
user_actions App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent 12.0 MiB 1.09 ms
Input props
[
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    +avatar: null
    +cover: null
    +email: "neatchee@lemmy.world"
    +username: "@neatchee@lemmy.world"
    +roles: []
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    +homepage: "front"
    +about: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1723917970 {#273
      date: 2024-08-17 20:06:10.0 +02:00
    }
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    +fields: null
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent {#2919
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Input props
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        ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
        \n
        **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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      This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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      I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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      **EDIT:**\n
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            There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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            You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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        +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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        +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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          This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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          “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
          \n
          IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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          If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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          “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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          Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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          Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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          The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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        \n
        ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        \n
        [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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        ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
        \n
        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        \n
        [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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      This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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            There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
            \n
            You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
            \n
            Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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            But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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        +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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        +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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        +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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        +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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          What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
          \n
          Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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          And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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        +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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      3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2345
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        +body: """
          This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
          \n
          And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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          So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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          The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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          “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
          \n
          IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
          \n
          If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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        +body: """
          “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
          \n
          Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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        ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
        \n
        **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
        \n
        **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
        \n
        **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
        \n
        **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
        \n
        **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
        ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
        \n
        ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
        \n
        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
        \n
        ---\n
        \n
        💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
        \n
        [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
        \n
        ---
        """
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    +slug: "Remember-guys-this-is-why-we-don-t-pay-for-the"
    +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
    +url: "https://i.imgur.com/S5rFcMv.png"
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      This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
      \n
      I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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      **EDIT:**\n
      \n
      [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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            There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
            \n
            You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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            Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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            But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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        +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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        +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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        +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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        +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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          What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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        +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
          \n
          And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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          So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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          The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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          “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
          \n
          IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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          If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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          “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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          Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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          Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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          The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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      This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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      I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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      **EDIT:**\n
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      [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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            There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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            You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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            Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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        +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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        +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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        +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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        +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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          What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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          Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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        +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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          And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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          So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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          The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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          “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
          \n
          IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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          If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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          “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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          Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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          Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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          The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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        ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
        \n
        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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        [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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      This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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      I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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            There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
            \n
            You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
            \n
            Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
            \n
            But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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        +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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        +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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        +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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        +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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          What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
          \n
          Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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          And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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        +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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        +body: """
          This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
          \n
          And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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          So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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          The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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          “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
          \n
          IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
          \n
          If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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          “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
          \n
          Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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          Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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        +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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          What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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          Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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          And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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        +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
          \n
          And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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          So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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          The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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          “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
          \n
          IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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          If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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          “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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          Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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          Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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          The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
          \n
          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
          \n
          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
          \n
          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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      +slug: "Remember-guys-this-is-why-we-don-t-pay-for-the"
      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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            There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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            You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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            Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          \n
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          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
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          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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            There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
            \n
            You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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            Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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            But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          +body: """
            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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          +body: """
            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
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          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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            There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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    +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
          \n
          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
          \n
          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
          \n
          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
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          \n
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          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
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          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
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      +slug: "Remember-guys-this-is-why-we-don-t-pay-for-the"
      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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            There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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            You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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            Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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      +slug: "Remember-guys-this-is-why-we-don-t-pay-for-the"
      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
        \n
        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
        \n
        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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            There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
            \n
            You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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            Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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            But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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          +body: """
            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          +body: """
            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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          +body: """
            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
            \n
            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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          \n
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          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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    +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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      You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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      Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
          \n
          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
          \n
          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
          \n
          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
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      +slug: "Remember-guys-this-is-why-we-don-t-pay-for-the"
      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
        \n
        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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      Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
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          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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      You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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      Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
          \n
          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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      You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
        \n
        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          +body: """
            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
            \n
            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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          \n
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          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
      \n
      You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
      \n
      Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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      But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
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          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
          \n
          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
          \n
          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
          \n
          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          +body: """
            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
            \n
            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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    +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
          \n
          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
              \n
              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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          +body: """
            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
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          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
          ---
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          +body: """
            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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    +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          \n
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          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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    +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
          \n
          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
          \n
          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
          \n
          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
          ---
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      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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    +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
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          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
          ---
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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    +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
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          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      +slug: "Remember-guys-this-is-why-we-don-t-pay-for-the"
      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
              \n
              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
            \n
            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
            \n
            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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    +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
          \n
          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
          \n
          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
          \n
          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
          ---
          """
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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    +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          \n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
          \n
          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
          \n
          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
          \n
          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
        \n
        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
              \n
              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
            \n
            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
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          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
          ---
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
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          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
          \n
          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
          \n
          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
          \n
          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          \n
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          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
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          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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      +slug: "Remember-guys-this-is-why-we-don-t-pay-for-the"
      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
              \n
              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
            \n
            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
              \n
              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
              \n
              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
            \n
            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          +body: """
            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
            \n
            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
            \n
            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
            \n
            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
            \n
            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
            \n
            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          \n
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          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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      Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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      And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
          \n
          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
          \n
          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          +body: """
            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
            \n
            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
            \n
            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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      Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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      And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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      Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
          \n
          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
          \n
          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
          \n
          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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      Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
        \n
        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
        \n
        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
        """
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
              \n
              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
              \n
              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          +body: """
            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
            \n
            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
            \n
            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
            \n
            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
            \n
            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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    +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
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          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          \n
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          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
              \n
              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
              \n
              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
            \n
            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: """
            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
            \n
            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
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          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
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          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
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          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
        \n
        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
              \n
              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
            \n
            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
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          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
          ---
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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      And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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      So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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      The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
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          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
              \n
              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
              \n
              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
              \n
              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
            \n
            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
            \n
            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          \n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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      And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
          \n
          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
          \n
          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
          \n
          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          \n
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          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
        \n
        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
        \n
        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
              \n
              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
              \n
              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
            \n
            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
            \n
            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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      And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
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          **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
            \n
            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          +body: """
            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
            \n
            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
      \n
      IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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      If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
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          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
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          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
        \n
        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          +body: """
            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          \n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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      IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          \n
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          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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      IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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      +slug: "Remember-guys-this-is-why-we-don-t-pay-for-the"
      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
              \n
              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          +body: """
            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
            \n
            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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      “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
      \n
      IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
            \n
            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          +body: """
            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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      Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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          \n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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      +slug: "Remember-guys-this-is-why-we-don-t-pay-for-the"
      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
        \n
        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
              \n
              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
            \n
            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          +body: """
            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          \n
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          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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      Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
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          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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      +slug: "Remember-guys-this-is-why-we-don-t-pay-for-the"
      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
              \n
              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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            The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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      Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
          ---
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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          +body: """
            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
            \n
            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
            \n
            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
            \n
            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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      Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
      \n
      The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
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          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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      Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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      The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
        \n
        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
              \n
              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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      Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
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          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
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          **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
          ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
          \n
          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
          \n
          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
          \n
          ---
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
            \n
            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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      Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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      The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
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          ---\n
          \n
          ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
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          **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
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          **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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          ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
          \n
          - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
          - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
          - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
          - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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          [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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      Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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          ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
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          \n
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          \n
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          \n
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          \n
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          \n
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      +slug: "Remember-guys-this-is-why-we-don-t-pay-for-the"
      +title: "Remember guys, this is why we don't pay for the apps."
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        This is the app called Franco Kernel Manager, one of the best kernel managers that are out there… Even when it was outdated (which I think that’s the cause it got booted from the PlayStore?).\n
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        I used it to check the process of my phone and monitor the active and idle drain mostly, I paid for it a long time ago, but now it just fails to check the licence and it doesn’t let me use it fully… I think there must be a cracked APK over there…\n
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        **EDIT:**\n
        \n
        [Fortunately](https://twitter.com/franciscof_1990/status/1726890182971212038) the app is back in the store and hopefully that update version comes soon enough!
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              There are lots of reasons to pirate stuff, but this argument in particular boils down to “We should steal stuff now because *maybe* some day in the future I won’t be able to use the paid version after they go out of business.” And that is shitty.\n
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              You bought it, so go crack it now that the license check is broken and nobody will care. That’s GOOD piracy. Support the creators, pirate when you can’t or it’s unreasonable to pay (more).\n
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              Don’t just pirate to mitigate theoretical future inconvenience. Do it to circumvent actual inconvenience, or to get things you couldn’t otherwise afford, or to say “fuck you” to big, shitty companies.\n
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              But pirating from a small-time dev just in case there are maybe license problems far in the future is not The Way
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          +body: "Yeah, exactly. It’s the same reason I have little hesitance pirating a game I already have when the platform I have it on doesn’t support mods (looking at you, Xbox game pass)"
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          +body: "Absolutely. I do that regularly. Purchase to support the creators, pirate to meet some specific use case."
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          +body: "Totally. Though, that case can be a tiny bit tricky. Like, people should be allowed to remove stuff from the Internet that they’ve created if they want, but it should also be okay to archive content that may be abandoned or lost. Hard to create rules that differentiate the two effectively for enforcement"
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          +body: "Sure I’m just thinking about how you’d write a law or policy that accommodated both reasonable scenarios"
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            What’s interesting with the comparison to books is that you can *stop it from being published*. You can’t force people to give up the copy they already bought, but they can’t make more copies and distribute it.\n
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            Hard to draw that distinction in the digital world\n
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            And if you want a better comparison, though of YouTube like a drive-in theater. You’re not allowed to make a copy of the film with your camcorder and go distribute it.
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          +body: "You misunderstand my meaning: they shouldn’t be able to go out and remove all copies of something in existence. But they should be able to limit distribution of the thing they created, up to and including stopping distribution."
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            This gets into a weird debate about the difference between reproducing a thing and describing a thing. With sufficiently accurate description you can create a reproduction.\n
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            And when you take that into the realm of computing, where we’ve functionally *automated the process of describing things with extreme accuracy* it gets really blurry. But we can all agree that “take what you want, give nothing back” is not a good way to run a society, least of all an economy :D\n
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            So we’re left with the task of crafting internally consistent legislation that attempts to allow certain types of reproductions, but not others.\n
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            The thing is, this is the type of debate just should be happening at the administrative level, in Congress, etc. But instead, special interest groups and lobbyists are doing the legislating on this stuff.
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            “Deprive small indie devs of revenue because advertisers would get a cut” is a bad take. Support small developers or don’t use their product. If a small dev chooses to use a platform you don’t like then don’t use their product.\n
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            IMO piracy is only justified when it corrects for a problem. Doing it without consideration for who is being harmed isn’t cool.\n
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            If taking $1 from Google also means taking $5 from a small dev, you’re doing more harm than good
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            “I’m going to steal stuff because if I don’t then people who NEED to steal it won’t be able to” is some serious mental gymnastics.\n
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            Your argument only works for *creating* cracks, not consuming them. Absolutely create cracks even when they aren’t needed. But that’s not the same as *using the crack even when you don’t need to, just because you can*
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      Because the right to determine distribution channels and the right to prevent distribution are inseparable. I challenge you to write a law that successfully implements one but not the other. Any law you write that guarantees a creator control over who distributes their work and how will inherently allow that creator to literally or functionally prevent distribution.\n
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      The alternative is saying that creators don’t have a right to control distribution at all - anyone must be allowed to reproduce and distribute, even if not for free - and that is a known disincentive to invention and economic growth; there’s a reason we only enforce that requirement in select places like standards and protocols
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settings_row_enum App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent 14.0 MiB 0.27 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Sidebar position"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_SIDEBAR_POSITION"
  "values" => [
    [
      "name" => "Left"
      "value" => "LEFT"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "Right"
      "value" => "RIGHT"
    ]
  ]
  "defaultValue" => "RIGHT"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#13210
  +label: "Sidebar position"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_SIDEBAR_POSITION"
  +values: [
    [
      "name" => "Left"
      "value" => "LEFT"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "Right"
      "value" => "RIGHT"
    ]
  ]
  +defaultValue: "RIGHT"
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.25 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Dynamic lists"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_DYNAMIC_LISTS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#13282
  +label: "Dynamic lists"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_DYNAMIC_LISTS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.28 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Rounded edges"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_ROUNDED_EDGES"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#13345
  +label: "Rounded edges"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_ROUNDED_EDGES"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.17 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Infinite scrolling"
  "help" => "Automatically load more content when you reach the bottom of the page."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_INFINITE_SCROLL"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#13401
  +label: "Infinite scrolling"
  +help: "Automatically load more content when you reach the bottom of the page."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_INFINITE_SCROLL"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.20 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Sticky navbar"
  "help" => "The navbar will stick to the top of the page when you scroll down."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_FIXED_NAVBAR"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#13460
  +label: "Sticky navbar"
  +help: "The navbar will stick to the top of the page when you scroll down."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_FIXED_NAVBAR"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.17 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show top bar"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_TOPBAR"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#13516
  +label: "Show top bar"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TOPBAR"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.15 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Turbo mode (experimental)"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#13572
  +label: "Turbo mode (experimental)"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.32 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Mark new comments"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#13630
  +label: "Mark new comments"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.26 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show "Support Us" block"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#13693
  +label: "Show "Support Us" block"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.25 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed users"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#13751
  +label: "Show subscribed users"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.31 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed magazines"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#13807
  +label: "Show subscribed magazines"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.22 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed domains"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#13863
  +label: "Show subscribed domains"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.20 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Auto media preview"
  "help" => "Automatically expand media previews."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#13919
  +label: "Auto media preview"
  +help: "Automatically expand media previews."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.18 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Compact view"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#13975
  +label: "Compact view"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.17 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show users’ avatars"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#14031
  +label: "Show users’ avatars"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.12 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show magazines’ icons"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#14087
  +label: "Show magazines’ icons"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.25 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show thumbnails"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#14143
  +label: "Show thumbnails"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.18 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Auto media preview"
  "help" => "Automatically expand media previews."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#14199
  +label: "Auto media preview"
  +help: "Automatically expand media previews."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW"
  +defaultValue: false
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 0.19 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show users’ avatars"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#14255
  +label: "Show users’ avatars"
  +help: ""
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_enum App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent 14.0 MiB 0.20 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Comment reply position"
  "help" => "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION"
  "values" => [
    [
      "name" => "top"
      "value" => "TOP"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "bottom"
      "value" => "BOTTOM"
    ]
  ]
  "defaultValue" => "TOP"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#14311
  +label: "Comment reply position"
  +help: "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION"
  +values: [
    [
      "name" => "top"
      "value" => "TOP"
    ]
    [
      "name" => "bottom"
      "value" => "BOTTOM"
    ]
  ]
  +defaultValue: "TOP"
  +reloadRequired: true
}
settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent 14.0 MiB 36.45 ms
Input props
[
  "label" => "Show Comment Avatars"
  "help" => "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post."
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR"
  "defaultValue" => true
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#14369
  +label: "Show Comment Avatars"
  +help: "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post."
  +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR"
  +defaultValue: true
  +reloadRequired: true
}
date App\Twig\Components\DateComponent 14.0 MiB 0.18 ms
Input props
[
  "date" => DateTimeImmutable @1698868394 {#272
    date: 2023-11-01 20:53:14.0 +01:00
  }
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#8576
  +date: DateTimeImmutable @1698868394 {#272
    date: 2023-11-01 20:53:14.0 +01:00
  }
}
related_magazines App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent 14.0 MiB 29.61 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent {#8630
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +title: "random_magazines"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#1848 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
active_users App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent 14.0 MiB 1.46 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent {#11397
  +magazine: null
  -userRepository: App\Repository\UserRepository {#603 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_categories App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent 14.0 MiB 21.72 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#13380
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +title: "random_categories"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\CategoryRepository {#13438 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_posts App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent 14.0 MiB 11.37 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#14439
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +post: null
  +title: "random_posts"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\PostRepository {#1452 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1541 …}
}
related_entries App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent 14.0 MiB 19.51 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#14508
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +entry: null
  +title: "random_entries"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\EntryRepository {#1779 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1541 …}
}
support_us_block App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock 14.0 MiB 1.28 ms
Input props
[]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#14577
  +subject: ? App\Entity\Contracts\VotableInterface
  +url: ? string
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -partnerBlockRepository: App\Repository\PartnerBlockRepository {#14578 …}
}
featured_magazines App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent 14.0 MiB 31.24 ms
Input props
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#14670
  +magazine: null
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#1848 …}
}