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        FWIW link works fine for me (looking at other responses here).\n
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        > Plasma’s global Edit Mode toolbar now has an “Add Panel” button that lets you add panels. With this located there, the desktop context menu has now lost its “Add Widgets” and “Add Panels” menu items since the functionality is fully available in the global Edit Mode. This makes the menu smaller and less overwhelming by default. **Of course, if you want those menu items back, you can just re-add them.** 🙂\n
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        I know it’s not a competition, but that right there encapsulates what I see as the philosophy difference between KDE and *other* teams. I love Plasma as a user, but this sort of thing is why I arrived here from there in the first place. Am I going to put those menu items back? Nope. But I like that the possibility I might want to matters to the team.
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      I have to admit I am a little bit of a Gnome hater, because I was a very happy Gnome 2.6(?) user when they moved my cheese (and then moved it again, and again, and again) - Gnome *was* for me until they decided I wasn’t the kind of user they wanted anymore.\n
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        FWIW link works fine for me (looking at other responses here).\n
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        > Plasma’s global Edit Mode toolbar now has an “Add Panel” button that lets you add panels. With this located there, the desktop context menu has now lost its “Add Widgets” and “Add Panels” menu items since the functionality is fully available in the global Edit Mode. This makes the menu smaller and less overwhelming by default. **Of course, if you want those menu items back, you can just re-add them.** 🙂\n
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      I have to admit I am a little bit of a Gnome hater, because I was a very happy Gnome 2.6(?) user when they moved my cheese (and then moved it again, and again, and again) - Gnome *was* for me until they decided I wasn’t the kind of user they wanted anymore.\n
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      I have to admit I am a little bit of a Gnome hater, because I was a very happy Gnome 2.6(?) user when they moved my cheese (and then moved it again, and again, and again) - Gnome *was* for me until they decided I wasn’t the kind of user they wanted anymore.\n
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        FWIW link works fine for me (looking at other responses here).\n
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        > Plasma’s global Edit Mode toolbar now has an “Add Panel” button that lets you add panels. With this located there, the desktop context menu has now lost its “Add Widgets” and “Add Panels” menu items since the functionality is fully available in the global Edit Mode. This makes the menu smaller and less overwhelming by default. **Of course, if you want those menu items back, you can just re-add them.** 🙂\n
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        I know it’s not a competition, but that right there encapsulates what I see as the philosophy difference between KDE and *other* teams. I love Plasma as a user, but this sort of thing is why I arrived here from there in the first place. Am I going to put those menu items back? Nope. But I like that the possibility I might want to matters to the team.
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      I have to admit I am a little bit of a Gnome hater, because I was a very happy Gnome 2.6(?) user when they moved my cheese (and then moved it again, and again, and again) - Gnome *was* for me until they decided I wasn’t the kind of user they wanted anymore.\n
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      Hey folks! I’m getting a fresh laptop for the first time in about a decade (Framework 16) in a couple of months and am looking forward to doing some low-level tinkering both on the OS and hardware. I’m planning to convert into a “cyberdeck” with quick-release hinges for the screen since I usually use an HMD, built-in breadboard, and other hardware hacking fun.\n
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        I know the “Arch BTW” meme exists for a reason, but **one** of the reasons I haven’t been able to drag myself away from Arch-based distros in recent years is that it allows me to always have current versions of my software while also just not having to care about all this appimage/flatpak/snap brouhaha.\n
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      Usually what you describe is what they do. Someone “owns” the AUR package (and it’s not quite literally any random user IIRC - you have to be accepted as an AUR maintainer I think) and they then take on the responsibility to repackage it whenever the author (you) releases a new version. There is also a mechanism for users to flag the AUR package as out of date in case that maintainer misses a release, and if they abandon it (or even if folks just don’t like how they package it) someone else can package it, assuming someone else wants to.\n
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        I know the “Arch BTW” meme exists for a reason, but **one** of the reasons I haven’t been able to drag myself away from Arch-based distros in recent years is that it allows me to always have current versions of my software while also just not having to care about all this appimage/flatpak/snap brouhaha.\n
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      Usually what you describe is what they do. Someone “owns” the AUR package (and it’s not quite literally any random user IIRC - you have to be accepted as an AUR maintainer I think) and they then take on the responsibility to repackage it whenever the author (you) releases a new version. There is also a mechanism for users to flag the AUR package as out of date in case that maintainer misses a release, and if they abandon it (or even if folks just don’t like how they package it) someone else can package it, assuming someone else wants to.\n
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        I know the “Arch BTW” meme exists for a reason, but **one** of the reasons I haven’t been able to drag myself away from Arch-based distros in recent years is that it allows me to always have current versions of my software while also just not having to care about all this appimage/flatpak/snap brouhaha.\n
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        I know the “Arch BTW” meme exists for a reason, but **one** of the reasons I haven’t been able to drag myself away from Arch-based distros in recent years is that it allows me to always have current versions of my software while also just not having to care about all this appimage/flatpak/snap brouhaha.\n
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      I know you already got another answer, but - it’s very rare that any software for Linux exists that is both 1) not present in the official Arch repos, **and also** 2) not packaged by a user for the AUR.\n
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      Probably 99% of what a typical user (I know we all define that differently) will want doesn’t even require AUR access - it will be in the **official** Arch repositories and will be up to date to within a few weeks of release.\n
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        I know the “Arch BTW” meme exists for a reason, but **one** of the reasons I haven’t been able to drag myself away from Arch-based distros in recent years is that it allows me to always have current versions of my software while also just not having to care about all this appimage/flatpak/snap brouhaha.\n
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      I know you already got another answer, but - it’s very rare that any software for Linux exists that is both 1) not present in the official Arch repos, **and also** 2) not packaged by a user for the AUR.\n
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      I know you already got another answer, but - it’s very rare that any software for Linux exists that is both 1) not present in the official Arch repos, **and also** 2) not packaged by a user for the AUR.\n
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      Probably 99% of what a typical user (I know we all define that differently) will want doesn’t even require AUR access - it will be in the **official** Arch repositories and will be up to date to within a few weeks of release.\n
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        I know the “Arch BTW” meme exists for a reason, but **one** of the reasons I haven’t been able to drag myself away from Arch-based distros in recent years is that it allows me to always have current versions of my software while also just not having to care about all this appimage/flatpak/snap brouhaha.\n
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      I know you already got another answer, but - it’s very rare that any software for Linux exists that is both 1) not present in the official Arch repos, **and also** 2) not packaged by a user for the AUR.\n
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      I know you already got another answer, but - it’s very rare that any software for Linux exists that is both 1) not present in the official Arch repos, **and also** 2) not packaged by a user for the AUR.\n
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      Probably 99% of what a typical user (I know we all define that differently) will want doesn’t even require AUR access - it will be in the **official** Arch repositories and will be up to date to within a few weeks of release.\n
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      I know you already got another answer, but - it’s very rare that any software for Linux exists that is both 1) not present in the official Arch repos, **and also** 2) not packaged by a user for the AUR.\n
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Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#10095
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Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10172
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[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10200
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[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10256
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Input props 
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10315
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Input props 
[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10371
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Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10427
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user_settings_row_switch App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent 12.0 MiB 0.27 ms
Input props 
[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10485
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}
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Input props 
[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10548
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Input props 
[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10606
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Input props 
[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10662
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}
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Input props 
[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10718
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}
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Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10774
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Input props 
[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10830
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Input props 
[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10886
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Input props 
[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10942
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}
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Input props 
[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#10998
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Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#11054
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Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#11110
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Input props 
[
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[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#11166
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Input props 
[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#11224
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[
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]
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[]
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App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#11361
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related_magazines App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent 12.0 MiB 24.47 ms
Input props 
[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent {#11448
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active_users App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent 12.0 MiB 23.86 ms
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[
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]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent {#11516
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[
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Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#11575
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  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
}
related_posts App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent 12.0 MiB 35.78 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#11646
  +limit: 4
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  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +post: null
  +title: "random_posts"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\PostRepository {#11645 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1504 …}
}
related_entries App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent 12.0 MiB 8.73 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
  "tag" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#11716
  +limit: 4
  +tag: null
  +magazine: null
  +type: "random"
  +entry: null
  +title: "random_entries"
  +refreshedRandom: false
  -repository: App\Repository\EntryRepository {#11715 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1504 …}
}
support_us_block App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock 12.0 MiB 13.19 ms
Input props 
[]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#11785
  +subject: ? App\Entity\Contracts\VotableInterface
  +url: ? string
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
  -partnerBlockRepository: App\Repository\PartnerBlockRepository {#11786 …}
}
featured_magazines App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent 12.0 MiB 13.66 ms
Input props 
[
  "magazine" => null
]
Attributes 
[]
Component 
App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#11878
  +magazine: null
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#1370 …}
}