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Response
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IP
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Security

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Firewall

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Stateless

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
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12 
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      [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
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    Am I the only one getting agitated by the word AI (Artificial Intelligence)?\n
    \n
    Real AI does not exist yet,  \n
    atm we only have LLMs (Large Language Models),  \n
    which do not think on their own,  \n
    but pass turing tests  \n
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    \n
    Imo AI is just a marketing buzzword,  \n
    created by rich capitalistic a-holes,  \n
    who already invested in LLM stocks,  \n
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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3 DENIED edit 
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      5) This is not a support community.It is not a place for ‘how do I?’, type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to [Lemmy.world Support](https://lemmy.world/c/support) or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.\n
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      \n
      Reminder: The [terms of service](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/) apply here too.\n
      \n
      Partnered Communities:\n
      ----------------------\n
      \n
      [Tech Support](/c/techsupport@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Reddit](/c/reddit@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Jokes](/c/jokes@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Ask Ouija](/c/askouija@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
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      \n
      Logo design credit goes to: [tubbadu](/u/tubbadu@lemmy.world)\n
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    Am I the only one getting agitated by the word AI (Artificial Intelligence)?\n
    \n
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    atm we only have LLMs (Large Language Models),  \n
    which do not think on their own,  \n
    but pass turing tests  \n
    (fool humans into thinking that they can think).\n
    \n
    Imo AI is just a marketing buzzword,  \n
    created by rich capitalistic a-holes,  \n
    who already invested in LLM stocks,  \n
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 ACCESS DENIED 
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      \n
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      ------------------------\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
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      \n
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      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either [!asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/asklemmyafterdark) or [!asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com](https://lemmynsfw.com/c/asklemmynsfw). NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].\n
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      \n
      5) This is not a support community.It is not a place for ‘how do I?’, type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to [Lemmy.world Support](https://lemmy.world/c/support) or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.\n
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      \n
      Reminder: The [terms of service](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/) apply here too.\n
      \n
      Partnered Communities:\n
      ----------------------\n
      \n
      [Tech Support](/c/techsupport@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
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    Thank you for reminding me about NPCs,  \n
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    Thank you for reminding me about NPCs,  \n
    we have indeed been calling them AI for years,  \n
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    Perhaps we need a new term,  \n
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      Thank you for reminding me about NPCs,  \n
      we have indeed been calling them AI for years,  \n
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      Perhaps we need a new term,  \n
      e.g. AC (Artificial Consiousness),  \n
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      The term AI still agitates me though,  \n
      since most of these are not intelligent.\n
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    I would argue that humans also frequently give bad advice and incorrect information. We regurgitate the information we read, and we’re notoriously bad at recognizing false and misleading info.\n
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    More important to keep in mind is that the vast, *vast* majority of intelligence in our world is much dumber than people. If you’re expecting greater than human intelligence as your baseline, you’re going to have a wildly different definition than the rest of the world.
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      Thank you for reminding me about NPCs,  \n
      we have indeed been calling them AI for years,  \n
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      Perhaps we need a new term,  \n
      e.g. AC (Artificial Consiousness),  \n
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      +body: "I remember the term AI being in use *long* before the current wave of LLMs. When I was a child, it was used to describe the code behind the behaviour of NPC in computer games, which I think is still used today. So, me, no, I don’t get agitated when I hear it, I don’t think it’s a marketing buzzword invented by capitalistic a-holes. I do think that using “intelligence” in AI is far too generous, whichever context it’s used in, but we needed some word to describe computers pretending to think and someone, a long time ago, came up with “artificial intelligence”."
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      Thank you for reminding me about NPCs,  \n
      we have indeed been calling them AI for years,  \n
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      Perhaps we need a new term,  \n
      e.g. AC (Artificial Consiousness),  \n
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      since most of these are not intelligent.\n
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    I would argue that humans also frequently give bad advice and incorrect information. We regurgitate the information we read, and we’re notoriously bad at recognizing false and misleading info.\n
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    More important to keep in mind is that the vast, *vast* majority of intelligence in our world is much dumber than people. If you’re expecting greater than human intelligence as your baseline, you’re going to have a wildly different definition than the rest of the world.
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      Thank you for reminding me about NPCs,  \n
      we have indeed been calling them AI for years,  \n
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      Perhaps we need a new term,  \n
      e.g. AC (Artificial Consiousness),  \n
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      Thank you for reminding me about NPCs,  \n
      we have indeed been calling them AI for years,  \n
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      Perhaps we need a new term,  \n
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      +body: "I remember the term AI being in use *long* before the current wave of LLMs. When I was a child, it was used to describe the code behind the behaviour of NPC in computer games, which I think is still used today. So, me, no, I don’t get agitated when I hear it, I don’t think it’s a marketing buzzword invented by capitalistic a-holes. I do think that using “intelligence” in AI is far too generous, whichever context it’s used in, but we needed some word to describe computers pretending to think and someone, a long time ago, came up with “artificial intelligence”."
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      Thank you for reminding me about NPCs,  \n
      we have indeed been calling them AI for years,  \n
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      Perhaps we need a new term,  \n
      e.g. AC (Artificial Consiousness),  \n
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      since most of these are not intelligent.\n
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    > For example,  \n
    > earlier this week I saw a post on Lemmy,  \n
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    Colleagues of mine have also recommended me uninstalling required system packages. Does that mean my colleagues aren’t intelligent/conscious? That humans in general aren’t?
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        Thank you for reminding me about NPCs,  \n
        we have indeed been calling them AI for years,  \n
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        Perhaps we need a new term,  \n
        e.g. AC (Artificial Consiousness),  \n
        which does not exists yet.\n
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        The term AI still agitates me though,  \n
        since most of these are not intelligent.\n
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        earlier this week I saw a post on Lemmy,  \n
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        Or my co-workers,  \n
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        To me it feels like they are pushing their bad beta products upon us,  \n
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        To me they don’t feel intelligent nor consious.
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      > For example,  \n
      > earlier this week I saw a post on Lemmy,  \n
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      Colleagues of mine have also recommended me uninstalling required system packages. Does that mean my colleagues aren’t intelligent/conscious? That humans in general aren’t?
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    > That humans in general aren’t?\n
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    After working 2 years on an open source ML project, I can confidently say that yes, on average, lights aint that bright sadly.
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        Thank you for reminding me about NPCs,  \n
        we have indeed been calling them AI for years,  \n
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        Perhaps we need a new term,  \n
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        To me it feels like they are pushing their bad beta products upon us,  \n
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    > That humans in general aren’t?\n
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        Thank you for reminding me about NPCs,  \n
        we have indeed been calling them AI for years,  \n
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        Perhaps we need a new term,  \n
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    > That humans in general aren’t?\n
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    AI is a forever-in-the-future technology. When I was in school, fuzzy logic controllers were an active area of “AI” research. Now they are everywhere and you’d be laughed at for calling them AI.\n
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    The thing is, as soon as AI researchers solve a problem, *that solution no longer counts as AI*. Somehow it’s suddenly statistics or “just if-then statements”, as though using those techniques makes something not artificial *intelligence*.\n
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      Am I the only one getting agitated by the word AI (Artificial Intelligence)?\n
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    I assume you’re referring to the sci-fi kind of self-aware AI because we’ve had ‘artificial intelligence’ in computing for decades in the form of decision making algorithms and the like. Whether any of *that* should be classed as AI is up for debate as again, it’s still all a facade. In those cases, people only really cared about the outputs and weren’t trying to argue they were alive or anything.\n
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