Components

24 Twig Components
218 Render Count
548 ms Render Time
20.0 MiB Memory Usage

Components

Name Metadata Render Count Render Time
date
"App\Twig\Components\DateComponent"
components/date.html.twig
25 4.28ms
user_inline
"App\Twig\Components\UserInlineComponent"
components/user_inline.html.twig
24 11.79ms
date_edited
"App\Twig\Components\DateEditedComponent"
components/date_edited.html.twig
23 2.46ms
vote
"App\Twig\Components\VoteComponent"
components/vote.html.twig
23 12.88ms
boost
"App\Twig\Components\BoostComponent"
components/boost.html.twig
23 27.07ms
entry_comment
"App\Twig\Components\EntryCommentComponent"
components/entry_comment.html.twig
22 1,195.96ms
user_avatar
"App\Twig\Components\UserAvatarComponent"
components/user_avatar.html.twig
22 22.53ms
entry_comments_nested
"App\Twig\Components\EntryCommentsNestedComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
22 835.21ms
settings_row_switch
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_settings_row_switch.html.twig
15 2.54ms
user_settings_row_switch
"App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent"
components/_user_settings_row_switch.html.twig
4 0.80ms
settings_row_enum
"App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent"
components/_settings_row_enum.html.twig
2 1.09ms
entry
"App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 54.62ms
entries_cross
"App\Twig\Components\EntriesCrossComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 50.15ms
editor_toolbar
"App\Twig\Components\EditorToolbarComponent"
components/editor_toolbar.html.twig
1 0.26ms
user_actions
"App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent"
components/user_actions.html.twig
1 5.33ms
magazine_box
"App\Twig\Components\MagazineBoxComponent"
components/magazine_box.html.twig
1 19.87ms
magazine_sub
"App\Twig\Components\MagazineSubComponent"
components/magazine_sub.html.twig
1 0.45ms
related_magazines
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 3.01ms
active_users
"App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 0.37ms
related_categories
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 8.35ms
related_posts
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 3.79ms
related_entries
"App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 1.65ms
support_us_block
"App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 0.20ms
featured_magazines
"App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent"
components/_cached.html.twig
1 0.74ms

Render calls

entry App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent 12.0 MiB 54.62 ms
Input props
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        All about open source! Feel free to ask questions, and share news, and interesting stuff!\n
        \n
        Useful Links\n
        ============\n
        \n
        - [Open Source Initiative](https://opensource.org/)\n
        - [Free Software Foundation](https://www.fsf.org/)\n
        - [Electronic Frontier Foundation](https://www.eff.org/)\n
        - [Software Freedom Conservancy](https://sfconservancy.org/)\n
        - [It’s FOSS](https://itsfoss.com/)\n
        \n
        Rules\n
        =====\n
        \n
        - Posts must be relevant to the open source ideology\n
        - No NSFW content\n
        - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
        \n
        Related Communities\n
        ===================\n
        \n
        - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
        - [!libre_software@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_software)\n
        - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
        - [!linux@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/linux)\n
        - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
        \n
        Community icon from opensource.org, but we are not affiliated with them.
        """
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    +title: "What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it"
    +url: "https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/27/bruce_perens_post_open"
    +body: """
      > Perens says there are several pressing problems that the open source community needs to address.\n
      \n
      > “First of all, our licenses aren’t working anymore,” he said. “We’ve had enough time that businesses have found all of the loopholes and thus we need to do something new. The GPL is not acting the way the GPL should have done when one-third of all paid-for Linux systems are sold with a GPL circumvention. That’s RHEL.”\n
      \n
      > Another straw burdening the Open Source camel, Perens writes, “is that Open Source has completely failed to serve the common person. For the most part, if they use us at all they do so through a proprietary software company’s systems, like Apple iOS or Google Android, both of which use Open Source for infrastructure but the apps are mostly proprietary. The common person doesn’t know about Open Source, they don’t know about the freedoms we promote which are increasingly in their interest. Indeed, Open Source is used today to surveil and even oppress them.”\n
      \n
      > Post-Open, as he describes it, is a bit more involved than Open Source. It would define the corporate relationship with developers to ensure companies paid a fair amount for the benefits they receive. It would remain free for individuals and non-profit, and would entail just one license.\n
      \n
      > Whether it can or not, Perens argues that the GPL isn’t enough. “The GPL is designed not as a contract but as a license. What Richard Stallman was thinking was he didn’t want to take away anyone’s rights. He only wanted to grant rights. So it’s not a contract. It’s a license. Well, we can’t do that anymore. We need enforceable contract terms.”
      """
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Attributes
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Component
App\Twig\Components\EntryComponent {#2963
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        All about open source! Feel free to ask questions, and share news, and interesting stuff!\n
        \n
        Useful Links\n
        ============\n
        \n
        - [Open Source Initiative](https://opensource.org/)\n
        - [Free Software Foundation](https://www.fsf.org/)\n
        - [Electronic Frontier Foundation](https://www.eff.org/)\n
        - [Software Freedom Conservancy](https://sfconservancy.org/)\n
        - [It’s FOSS](https://itsfoss.com/)\n
        \n
        Rules\n
        =====\n
        \n
        - Posts must be relevant to the open source ideology\n
        - No NSFW content\n
        - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
        \n
        Related Communities\n
        ===================\n
        \n
        - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
        - [!libre_software@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_software)\n
        - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
        - [!linux@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/linux)\n
        - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
        \n
        Community icon from opensource.org, but we are not affiliated with them.
        """
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      Now people want to add money to the mix, define valid use-cases, have me file paperwork to become a non-profit etc… Especially adding money to the mix could turn out bad in my eyes. Currently people are incentivised by other things. Software development and usage is a level playing field and you get gifted awesome programs. I’m really not sure if more capitalism helps. (But yes, I also think it’s annoying that companies like IBM, Amazon and Google make big money and often don’t contribute. And maybe handling money is unavoidable, for example since nowadays many projects need to pay for infrastructure, or do automated builds / tests / CI and that also costs money unless Github helps you out.)\n
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      Now people want to add money to the mix, define valid use-cases, have me file paperwork to become a non-profit etc… Especially adding money to the mix could turn out bad in my eyes. Currently people are incentivised by other things. Software development and usage is a level playing field and you get gifted awesome programs. I’m really not sure if more capitalism helps. (But yes, I also think it’s annoying that companies like IBM, Amazon and Google make big money and often don’t contribute. And maybe handling money is unavoidable, for example since nowadays many projects need to pay for infrastructure, or do automated builds / tests / CI and that also costs money unless Github helps you out.)\n
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      Now people want to add money to the mix, define valid use-cases, have me file paperwork to become a non-profit etc… Especially adding money to the mix could turn out bad in my eyes. Currently people are incentivised by other things. Software development and usage is a level playing field and you get gifted awesome programs. I’m really not sure if more capitalism helps. (But yes, I also think it’s annoying that companies like IBM, Amazon and Google make big money and often don’t contribute. And maybe handling money is unavoidable, for example since nowadays many projects need to pay for infrastructure, or do automated builds / tests / CI and that also costs money unless Github helps you out.)\n
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      It’s an interesting idea, but the differences between copyright and contract law present quite a hurdle.\n
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      Either you release something publicly, licensing it under certain conditions (you can use it this way, but not that), or you cut a contract with a 3rd party for them to use it a certain way – something that only makes sense in a context where the wider public doesn’t already have those rights, otherwise a contract would be unnecessary.\n
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        Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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          In some contexts.\n
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          Is there a particular goal for this rhetorical poking?
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        Sorry, it just sounds like it was leading to some “ah-HA!” reversal, being so brief and general in response to normative statements about a complex topic.\n
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        Removing DRM is generally somewhere between outright illegal and getting attacked by flesh-eating lawyers.\n
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        Blizzard killed an independent Warcraft / Starcraft server called BNetD.\n
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            You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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            You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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        > Perens says there are several pressing problems that the open source community needs to address.\n
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        > “First of all, our licenses aren’t working anymore,” he said. “We’ve had enough time that businesses have found all of the loopholes and thus we need to do something new. The GPL is not acting the way the GPL should have done when one-third of all paid-for Linux systems are sold with a GPL circumvention. That’s RHEL.”\n
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        > Whether it can or not, Perens argues that the GPL isn’t enough. “The GPL is designed not as a contract but as a license. What Richard Stallman was thinking was he didn’t want to take away anyone’s rights. He only wanted to grant rights. So it’s not a contract. It’s a license. Well, we can’t do that anymore. We need enforceable contract terms.”
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      Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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              You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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      Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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              You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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      Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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              You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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      Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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                You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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                It’s like patents versus trade secrets. If you show your work and agree to let anyone play with it, there are incentives provided. If you rely on secrecy… and people figure it out anyway… tough shit.
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        Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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                You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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        Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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          - [Free Software Foundation](https://www.fsf.org/)\n
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                You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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        Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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                You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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                It’s like patents versus trade secrets. If you show your work and agree to let anyone play with it, there are incentives provided. If you rely on secrecy… and people figure it out anyway… tough shit.
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        Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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        > Perens says there are several pressing problems that the open source community needs to address.\n
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        > “First of all, our licenses aren’t working anymore,” he said. “We’ve had enough time that businesses have found all of the loopholes and thus we need to do something new. The GPL is not acting the way the GPL should have done when one-third of all paid-for Linux systems are sold with a GPL circumvention. That’s RHEL.”\n
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        > Another straw burdening the Open Source camel, Perens writes, “is that Open Source has completely failed to serve the common person. For the most part, if they use us at all they do so through a proprietary software company’s systems, like Apple iOS or Google Android, both of which use Open Source for infrastructure but the apps are mostly proprietary. The common person doesn’t know about Open Source, they don’t know about the freedoms we promote which are increasingly in their interest. Indeed, Open Source is used today to surveil and even oppress them.”\n
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        > Post-Open, as he describes it, is a bit more involved than Open Source. It would define the corporate relationship with developers to ensure companies paid a fair amount for the benefits they receive. It would remain free for individuals and non-profit, and would entail just one license.\n
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        > Whether it can or not, Perens argues that the GPL isn’t enough. “The GPL is designed not as a contract but as a license. What Richard Stallman was thinking was he didn’t want to take away anyone’s rights. He only wanted to grant rights. So it’s not a contract. It’s a license. Well, we can’t do that anymore. We need enforceable contract terms.”
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                You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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                It’s like patents versus trade secrets. If you show your work and agree to let anyone play with it, there are incentives provided. If you rely on secrecy… and people figure it out anyway… tough shit.
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        Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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                You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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                It’s like patents versus trade secrets. If you show your work and agree to let anyone play with it, there are incentives provided. If you rely on secrecy… and people figure it out anyway… tough shit.
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        Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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        Please be advised I won’t give two shits about any hair-splitting over the word “owns.”
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          Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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        > Perens says there are several pressing problems that the open source community needs to address.\n
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        > “First of all, our licenses aren’t working anymore,” he said. “We’ve had enough time that businesses have found all of the loopholes and thus we need to do something new. The GPL is not acting the way the GPL should have done when one-third of all paid-for Linux systems are sold with a GPL circumvention. That’s RHEL.”\n
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        > Whether it can or not, Perens argues that the GPL isn’t enough. “The GPL is designed not as a contract but as a license. What Richard Stallman was thinking was he didn’t want to take away anyone’s rights. He only wanted to grant rights. So it’s not a contract. It’s a license. Well, we can’t do that anymore. We need enforceable contract terms.”
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                  You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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          Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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                  You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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          Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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      In some contexts.\n
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                  You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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          Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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                  You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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                  It’s like patents versus trade secrets. If you show your work and agree to let anyone play with it, there are incentives provided. If you rely on secrecy… and people figure it out anyway… tough shit.
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          Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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          Please be advised I won’t give two shits about any hair-splitting over the word “owns.”
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          Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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        > Perens says there are several pressing problems that the open source community needs to address.\n
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                  You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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                  It’s like patents versus trade secrets. If you show your work and agree to let anyone play with it, there are incentives provided. If you rely on secrecy… and people figure it out anyway… tough shit.
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          Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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      In some contexts.\n
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                    You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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            Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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        In some contexts.\n
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        Is there a particular goal for this rhetorical poking?
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            Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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        In some contexts.\n
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        Is there a particular goal for this rhetorical poking?
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        > Perens says there are several pressing problems that the open source community needs to address.\n
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        > “First of all, our licenses aren’t working anymore,” he said. “We’ve had enough time that businesses have found all of the loopholes and thus we need to do something new. The GPL is not acting the way the GPL should have done when one-third of all paid-for Linux systems are sold with a GPL circumvention. That’s RHEL.”\n
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        > Another straw burdening the Open Source camel, Perens writes, “is that Open Source has completely failed to serve the common person. For the most part, if they use us at all they do so through a proprietary software company’s systems, like Apple iOS or Google Android, both of which use Open Source for infrastructure but the apps are mostly proprietary. The common person doesn’t know about Open Source, they don’t know about the freedoms we promote which are increasingly in their interest. Indeed, Open Source is used today to surveil and even oppress them.”\n
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        > Post-Open, as he describes it, is a bit more involved than Open Source. It would define the corporate relationship with developers to ensure companies paid a fair amount for the benefits they receive. It would remain free for individuals and non-profit, and would entail just one license.\n
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        > Whether it can or not, Perens argues that the GPL isn’t enough. “The GPL is designed not as a contract but as a license. What Richard Stallman was thinking was he didn’t want to take away anyone’s rights. He only wanted to grant rights. So it’s not a contract. It’s a license. Well, we can’t do that anymore. We need enforceable contract terms.”
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                    You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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                    It’s like patents versus trade secrets. If you show your work and agree to let anyone play with it, there are incentives provided. If you rely on secrecy… and people figure it out anyway… tough shit.
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            Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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            Please be advised I won’t give two shits about any hair-splitting over the word “owns.”
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        In some contexts.\n
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        Is there a particular goal for this rhetorical poking?
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            Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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        In some contexts.\n
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                    You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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            Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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        In some contexts.\n
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        Is there a particular goal for this rhetorical poking?
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                    You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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            Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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        In some contexts.\n
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        Is there a particular goal for this rhetorical poking?
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                    You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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            Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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        In some contexts.\n
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        Is there a particular goal for this rhetorical poking?
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            Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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        In some contexts.\n
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                      You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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              Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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          In some contexts.\n
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          Is there a particular goal for this rhetorical poking?
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      Sorry, it just sounds like it was leading to some “ah-HA!” reversal, being so brief and general in response to normative statements about a complex topic.\n
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      Removing DRM is generally somewhere between outright illegal and getting attacked by flesh-eating lawyers.\n
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      Blizzard killed an independent Warcraft / Starcraft server called BNetD.\n
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                      You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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              Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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              Please be advised I won’t give two shits about any hair-splitting over the word “owns.”
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          In some contexts.\n
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          Is there a particular goal for this rhetorical poking?
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      Sorry, it just sounds like it was leading to some “ah-HA!” reversal, being so brief and general in response to normative statements about a complex topic.\n
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      Removing DRM is generally somewhere between outright illegal and getting attacked by flesh-eating lawyers.\n
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      Blizzard killed an independent Warcraft / Starcraft server called BNetD.\n
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      Nintendo’s whole attitude toward emulation is infuriating nonsense pushing for digital art to slowly rot.
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                      You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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              Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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              Please be advised I won’t give two shits about any hair-splitting over the word “owns.”
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          In some contexts.\n
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          Is there a particular goal for this rhetorical poking?
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                      You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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              Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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          In some contexts.\n
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          Is there a particular goal for this rhetorical poking?
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      Sorry, it just sounds like it was leading to some “ah-HA!” reversal, being so brief and general in response to normative statements about a complex topic.\n
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      Removing DRM is generally somewhere between outright illegal and getting attacked by flesh-eating lawyers.\n
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      Blizzard killed an independent Warcraft / Starcraft server called BNetD.\n
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      Nintendo’s whole attitude toward emulation is infuriating nonsense pushing for digital art to slowly rot.
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                      You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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              Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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              Please be advised I won’t give two shits about any hair-splitting over the word “owns.”
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          In some contexts.\n
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      Sorry, it just sounds like it was leading to some “ah-HA!” reversal, being so brief and general in response to normative statements about a complex topic.\n
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      Removing DRM is generally somewhere between outright illegal and getting attacked by flesh-eating lawyers.\n
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                      You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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              Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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              Please be advised I won’t give two shits about any hair-splitting over the word “owns.”
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          In some contexts.\n
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          Is there a particular goal for this rhetorical poking?
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      Sorry, it just sounds like it was leading to some “ah-HA!” reversal, being so brief and general in response to normative statements about a complex topic.\n
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      Removing DRM is generally somewhere between outright illegal and getting attacked by flesh-eating lawyers.\n
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      Blizzard killed an independent Warcraft / Starcraft server called BNetD.\n
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                      You want open source treated well? Remove IP protections from closed-source projects.\n
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              Reverse-engineering. Binary patches. Basically a free-for-all for anyone who owns a legal copy of a thing.\n
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          In some contexts.\n
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          Is there a particular goal for this rhetorical poking?
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      Sorry, it just sounds like it was leading to some “ah-HA!” reversal, being so brief and general in response to normative statements about a complex topic.\n
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      Removing DRM is generally somewhere between outright illegal and getting attacked by flesh-eating lawyers.\n
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        > Whether it can or not, Perens argues that the GPL isn’t enough. “The GPL is designed not as a contract but as a license. What Richard Stallman was thinking was he didn’t want to take away anyone’s rights. He only wanted to grant rights. So it’s not a contract. It’s a license. Well, we can’t do that anymore. We need enforceable contract terms.”
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      I don’t quite agree with some of the rationale\n
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      1. I do think users have benefited from Open Source, but I also think that there has been an a decline in Open Source software in general\n
      2. I don’t think contracts are a good analogy here (in the sense that every corporate consumer of the software would have to sign one)\n
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      Having said this I do understand where he is coming from. And I agree that:\n
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      1. a lot of big companies consume this software and don’t give back\n
      2. corporate interests are well entrenched in some Open Source projects, and some bad decisions have been made\n
      3. he does raise an interesting point about the commons clause (but them I’m no laywer)\n
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      I would like to remind everyone that the GPL pretty much exists because of (1.). If anything we should have more GPL code. In that regard I don’t think it failed us. But we rarely see enforced (in court). Frankly most of our code is not that special so please GPL it.\n
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      Finally I think users do know about Open Source software indirectly. In the same way they find out their “public” infrastructure has been running without permit or inspection the day things start breaking and the original builder/supplier is long gone and left no trace of how it works.\n
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      Since these days everything is software (or black box hardware with firmware) this is increasingly important in public policy. And I do wish we would see public contracts asking for hardware/firmware what some already for software.\n
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      I wont get into the Redhat/IBM+CentOS/Fedora or AI points because there is a lot more going on there. Not that he is not right. But I’m kind of fed up with it :D
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        > Whether it can or not, Perens argues that the GPL isn’t enough. “The GPL is designed not as a contract but as a license. What Richard Stallman was thinking was he didn’t want to take away anyone’s rights. He only wanted to grant rights. So it’s not a contract. It’s a license. Well, we can’t do that anymore. We need enforceable contract terms.”
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      I don’t quite agree with some of the rationale\n
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      1. I do think users have benefited from Open Source, but I also think that there has been an a decline in Open Source software in general\n
      2. I don’t think contracts are a good analogy here (in the sense that every corporate consumer of the software would have to sign one)\n
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      Having said this I do understand where he is coming from. And I agree that:\n
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      1. a lot of big companies consume this software and don’t give back\n
      2. corporate interests are well entrenched in some Open Source projects, and some bad decisions have been made\n
      3. he does raise an interesting point about the commons clause (but them I’m no laywer)\n
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      I would like to remind everyone that the GPL pretty much exists because of (1.). If anything we should have more GPL code. In that regard I don’t think it failed us. But we rarely see enforced (in court). Frankly most of our code is not that special so please GPL it.\n
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      Finally I think users do know about Open Source software indirectly. In the same way they find out their “public” infrastructure has been running without permit or inspection the day things start breaking and the original builder/supplier is long gone and left no trace of how it works.\n
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      Since these days everything is software (or black box hardware with firmware) this is increasingly important in public policy. And I do wish we would see public contracts asking for hardware/firmware what some already for software.\n
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      I wont get into the Redhat/IBM+CentOS/Fedora or AI points because there is a lot more going on there. Not that he is not right. But I’m kind of fed up with it :D
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Input props
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#19392
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[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#19451
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}
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#19507
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#19563
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}
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Input props
[
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  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#19621
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  +reloadRequired: true
}
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#19684
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  +reloadRequired: true
}
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Input props
[
  "label" => "Show subscribed users"
  "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS"
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#19742
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}
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#19798
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}
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#19854
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}
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#19910
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#19966
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20022
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20078
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20134
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}
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20190
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}
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20246
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}
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Input props
[
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]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#20302
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Input props
[
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Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#20360
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      - [Free Software Foundation](https://www.fsf.org/)\n
      - [Electronic Frontier Foundation](https://www.eff.org/)\n
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Input props
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]
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[]
Component
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}
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related_categories App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent 20.0 MiB 8.35 ms
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[
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  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#21238
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  +magazine: "opensource@lemmy.ml"
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  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
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}
related_posts App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent 20.0 MiB 3.79 ms
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[
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  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#21309
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  +magazine: "opensource@lemmy.ml"
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  -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …}
  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
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}
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Input props
[
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  "tag" => null
]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#21378
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  +magazine: "opensource@lemmy.ml"
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  -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …}
  -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …}
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}
support_us_block App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock 20.0 MiB 0.20 ms
Input props
[]
Attributes
[]
Component
App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#21447
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  -partnerBlockRepository: App\Repository\PartnerBlockRepository {#21448 …}
}
featured_magazines App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent 20.0 MiB 0.74 ms
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      All about open source! Feel free to ask questions, and share news, and interesting stuff!\n
      \n
      Useful Links\n
      ============\n
      \n
      - [Open Source Initiative](https://opensource.org/)\n
      - [Free Software Foundation](https://www.fsf.org/)\n
      - [Electronic Frontier Foundation](https://www.eff.org/)\n
      - [Software Freedom Conservancy](https://sfconservancy.org/)\n
      - [It’s FOSS](https://itsfoss.com/)\n
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      ===================\n
      \n
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      - [!libre_software@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_software)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      - [!linux@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/linux)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      \n
      Community icon from opensource.org, but we are not affiliated with them.
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Component
App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#21536
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    +name: "opensource@lemmy.ml"
    +title: "opensource"
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      All about open source! Feel free to ask questions, and share news, and interesting stuff!\n
      \n
      Useful Links\n
      ============\n
      \n
      - [Open Source Initiative](https://opensource.org/)\n
      - [Free Software Foundation](https://www.fsf.org/)\n
      - [Electronic Frontier Foundation](https://www.eff.org/)\n
      - [Software Freedom Conservancy](https://sfconservancy.org/)\n
      - [It’s FOSS](https://itsfoss.com/)\n
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      - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
      \n
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      ===================\n
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      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!libre_software@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_software)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      - [!linux@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/linux)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
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