GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/u/@quirzle@kbin.social/newest/2023-11-22::2023-11-22

Response
200 OK
IP
3.135.224.236
Profiled on
Token
af82d2

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
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  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
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Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
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Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
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Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
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  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2455 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1567 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2460 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1361 …}
  +slug: "Hollywood-to-UK-Govt-Investigating-Pirates-Increasingly-Difficult-TorrentFreak"
  +title: "Hollywood to UK Govt: Investigating Pirates "Increasingly Difficult" * TorrentFreak"
  +url: "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/a5fac566-0dcf-41f5-83b7-9e25d47a260b.jpeg"
  +body: """
    Summary: A recent UK government inquiry into the challenges faced by the film and high-end television industry has recently received submissions from major Hollywood studios advocating for KYC (know your customer) rules for hosting providers, similar to banking regulations to identify money laundering. If adopted, this would help them to identify people hosting pirated content.\n
    \n
    > The submissions are united in identifying the same solution to this problem: the UK must implement a ‘Know Your Business Customer’ regime to compel commercial entities (including online intermediaries) to establish the true identity of their business customers as a precondition for selling, and receiving payment for, digital services.
    """
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    date: 2023-11-25 18:32:42.0 +01:00
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  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
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  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1726 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1714 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2012 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2033 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2078 …}
  +children: [
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      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1589 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1593 …}
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        > How many people really discover new music through piracy?\n
        \n
        Everyone I've ever known. I mostly listen to metal, which undeniably became what it is because of people mailing pirated cassettes in the early 80s. 8 of my 10 favorite bands, I discovered by finding someone with good taste on Soulseek and grabbing the stuff I'd never heard of before. Piracy is key in the spread of underground music.\n
        \n
        Artists that sell out stadiums wouldn't be affected much, but the ones that actually need the concert income absolutely would.
        """
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        date: 2023-11-22 02:22:05.0 +01:00
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      +editedAt: null
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        date: 2023-11-22 02:22:05.0 +01:00
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      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1604 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1621 …}
      +body: """
        I'd argue Bandcamp does Artists set the price, and the files downloaded are .flac or mp3 without any DRM.\n
        \n
        They got sold, which resulted in layoffs recently...so no telling how long it lasts. But right now, they're reasonable in my book.
        """
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      +favouriteCount: 8
      +score: 0
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        date: 2023-11-22 02:25:08.0 +01:00
      }
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      ]
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      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1691 …}
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
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      +editedAt: null
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        date: 2023-11-22 02:25:08.0 +01:00
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      +body: """
        > That type I think blurs the line on what actually is piracy versus the guy handing out demo tapes on the corner. It’s a sort of a ‘I absolutely don’t want you to go download my stuff, particularly from this link or this link…’\n
        \n
        Not at all. I don't mean artists distributing their own tapes; this was primarily fans copying the tape they bought, recording off the radio, or recording bootlegs of concerts. ([see also](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tape_trading)) There was even the [ad campaign](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Taping_Is_Killing_Music) driving home that making your own cassettes in such a manner is illegal and "killing the music industry," which is obviously didn't.\n
        \n
        As for the rest of what you said, I think it's important to keep that not everyone obtains music the same way. Plenty of people use ripping software, modified client software, etc. to pirate via streaming services too. It's not just filling a niche, but a reliable source of mainstream music too (assuming you do it before they pull it down because of the licensing BS). And as a frequent Bandcamp patron, albums can still be expensive and most songs still cost $1 (though, without the shit DRM).
        """
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      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
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        "@Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca"
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        "@quirzle@kbin.social"
        "@ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com"
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      +ranking: 0
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
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  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1361 …}
  +slug: "Hollywood-to-UK-Govt-Investigating-Pirates-Increasingly-Difficult-TorrentFreak"
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  +url: "https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/a5fac566-0dcf-41f5-83b7-9e25d47a260b.jpeg"
  +body: """
    Summary: A recent UK government inquiry into the challenges faced by the film and high-end television industry has recently received submissions from major Hollywood studios advocating for KYC (know your customer) rules for hosting providers, similar to banking regulations to identify money laundering. If adopted, this would help them to identify people hosting pirated content.\n
    \n
    > The submissions are united in identifying the same solution to this problem: the UK must implement a ‘Know Your Business Customer’ regime to compel commercial entities (including online intermediaries) to establish the true identity of their business customers as a precondition for selling, and receiving payment for, digital services.
    """
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      +image: null
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      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1593 …}
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        > How many people really discover new music through piracy?\n
        \n
        Everyone I've ever known. I mostly listen to metal, which undeniably became what it is because of people mailing pirated cassettes in the early 80s. 8 of my 10 favorite bands, I discovered by finding someone with good taste on Soulseek and grabbing the stuff I'd never heard of before. Piracy is key in the spread of underground music.\n
        \n
        Artists that sell out stadiums wouldn't be affected much, but the ones that actually need the concert income absolutely would.
        """
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        date: 2023-11-22 02:22:05.0 +01:00
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        I'd argue Bandcamp does Artists set the price, and the files downloaded are .flac or mp3 without any DRM.\n
        \n
        They got sold, which resulted in layoffs recently...so no telling how long it lasts. But right now, they're reasonable in my book.
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        Not at all. I don't mean artists distributing their own tapes; this was primarily fans copying the tape they bought, recording off the radio, or recording bootlegs of concerts. ([see also](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tape_trading)) There was even the [ad campaign](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Taping_Is_Killing_Music) driving home that making your own cassettes in such a manner is illegal and "killing the music industry," which is obviously didn't.\n
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        > How many people really discover new music through piracy?\n
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        Everyone I've ever known. I mostly listen to metal, which undeniably became what it is because of people mailing pirated cassettes in the early 80s. 8 of my 10 favorite bands, I discovered by finding someone with good taste on Soulseek and grabbing the stuff I'd never heard of before. Piracy is key in the spread of underground music.\n
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        Artists that sell out stadiums wouldn't be affected much, but the ones that actually need the concert income absolutely would.
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        I'd argue Bandcamp does Artists set the price, and the files downloaded are .flac or mp3 without any DRM.\n
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        They got sold, which resulted in layoffs recently...so no telling how long it lasts. But right now, they're reasonable in my book.
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          > That type I think blurs the line on what actually is piracy versus the guy handing out demo tapes on the corner. It’s a sort of a ‘I absolutely don’t want you to go download my stuff, particularly from this link or this link…’\n
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          Not at all. I don't mean artists distributing their own tapes; this was primarily fans copying the tape they bought, recording off the radio, or recording bootlegs of concerts. ([see also](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tape_trading)) There was even the [ad campaign](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Taping_Is_Killing_Music) driving home that making your own cassettes in such a manner is illegal and "killing the music industry," which is obviously didn't.\n
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    > How many people really discover new music through piracy?\n
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          I'd argue Bandcamp does Artists set the price, and the files downloaded are .flac or mp3 without any DRM.\n
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          > That type I think blurs the line on what actually is piracy versus the guy handing out demo tapes on the corner. It’s a sort of a ‘I absolutely don’t want you to go download my stuff, particularly from this link or this link…’\n
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          I'd argue Bandcamp does Artists set the price, and the files downloaded are .flac or mp3 without any DRM.\n
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          They got sold, which resulted in layoffs recently...so no telling how long it lasts. But right now, they're reasonable in my book.
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          > That type I think blurs the line on what actually is piracy versus the guy handing out demo tapes on the corner. It’s a sort of a ‘I absolutely don’t want you to go download my stuff, particularly from this link or this link…’\n
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          Not at all. I don't mean artists distributing their own tapes; this was primarily fans copying the tape they bought, recording off the radio, or recording bootlegs of concerts. ([see also](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tape_trading)) There was even the [ad campaign](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Taping_Is_Killing_Music) driving home that making your own cassettes in such a manner is illegal and "killing the music industry," which is obviously didn't.\n
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    > How many people really discover new music through piracy?\n
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    Everyone I've ever known. I mostly listen to metal, which undeniably became what it is because of people mailing pirated cassettes in the early 80s. 8 of my 10 favorite bands, I discovered by finding someone with good taste on Soulseek and grabbing the stuff I'd never heard of before. Piracy is key in the spread of underground music.\n
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    Artists that sell out stadiums wouldn't be affected much, but the ones that actually need the concert income absolutely would.
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          > How many people really discover new music through piracy?\n
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          > That type I think blurs the line on what actually is piracy versus the guy handing out demo tapes on the corner. It’s a sort of a ‘I absolutely don’t want you to go download my stuff, particularly from this link or this link…’\n
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          > How many people really discover new music through piracy?\n
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    I'd argue Bandcamp does Artists set the price, and the files downloaded are .flac or mp3 without any DRM.\n
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    They got sold, which resulted in layoffs recently...so no telling how long it lasts. But right now, they're reasonable in my book.
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          > That type I think blurs the line on what actually is piracy versus the guy handing out demo tapes on the corner. It’s a sort of a ‘I absolutely don’t want you to go download my stuff, particularly from this link or this link…’\n
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          Not at all. I don't mean artists distributing their own tapes; this was primarily fans copying the tape they bought, recording off the radio, or recording bootlegs of concerts. ([see also](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tape_trading)) There was even the [ad campaign](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Taping_Is_Killing_Music) driving home that making your own cassettes in such a manner is illegal and "killing the music industry," which is obviously didn't.\n
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    I'd argue Bandcamp does Artists set the price, and the files downloaded are .flac or mp3 without any DRM.\n
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    They got sold, which resulted in layoffs recently...so no telling how long it lasts. But right now, they're reasonable in my book.
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          > How many people really discover new music through piracy?\n
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          Everyone I've ever known. I mostly listen to metal, which undeniably became what it is because of people mailing pirated cassettes in the early 80s. 8 of my 10 favorite bands, I discovered by finding someone with good taste on Soulseek and grabbing the stuff I'd never heard of before. Piracy is key in the spread of underground music.\n
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      Summary: A recent UK government inquiry into the challenges faced by the film and high-end television industry has recently received submissions from major Hollywood studios advocating for KYC (know your customer) rules for hosting providers, similar to banking regulations to identify money laundering. If adopted, this would help them to identify people hosting pirated content.\n
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          > How many people really discover new music through piracy?\n
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    > That type I think blurs the line on what actually is piracy versus the guy handing out demo tapes on the corner. It’s a sort of a ‘I absolutely don’t want you to go download my stuff, particularly from this link or this link…’\n
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    Not at all. I don't mean artists distributing their own tapes; this was primarily fans copying the tape they bought, recording off the radio, or recording bootlegs of concerts. ([see also](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tape_trading)) There was even the [ad campaign](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Taping_Is_Killing_Music) driving home that making your own cassettes in such a manner is illegal and "killing the music industry," which is obviously didn't.\n
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    As for the rest of what you said, I think it's important to keep that not everyone obtains music the same way. Plenty of people use ripping software, modified client software, etc. to pirate via streaming services too. It's not just filling a niche, but a reliable source of mainstream music too (assuming you do it before they pull it down because of the licensing BS). And as a frequent Bandcamp patron, albums can still be expensive and most songs still cost $1 (though, without the shit DRM).
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          > How many people really discover new music through piracy?\n
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    > That type I think blurs the line on what actually is piracy versus the guy handing out demo tapes on the corner. It’s a sort of a ‘I absolutely don’t want you to go download my stuff, particularly from this link or this link…’\n
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    Not at all. I don't mean artists distributing their own tapes; this was primarily fans copying the tape they bought, recording off the radio, or recording bootlegs of concerts. ([see also](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tape_trading)) There was even the [ad campaign](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_Taping_Is_Killing_Music) driving home that making your own cassettes in such a manner is illegal and "killing the music industry," which is obviously didn't.\n
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