GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/u/@nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de/active?p=2

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
1.07 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.06 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1729
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  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1733 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1743 …}
  +slug: "Chromium-vs-Brave"
  +title: "Chromium vs Brave"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    cross-posted from: [sh.itjust.works/post/5572424](https://sh.itjust.works/post/5572424)\n
    \n
    > This might have been discussed to death by now, unfortunately I couldn’t find any discussion on it on Lemmy. Though I would love to be corrected on that!\n
    > \n
    > ---\n
    > \n
    > **How does an always on incognito Chromium with uBlock Origin on [medium mode](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium-mode) (and other hardening/privacy settings enabled) compare to Brave (with e.g. [Privacy Guides’ recommended settings](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/desktop-browsers/#brave)) with respect to security and privacy on Linux^[1]^?**\n
    > \n
    > Commonly heard [whataboutisms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism):\n
    > \n
    > - *“With the looming advent of Manifest v3, this discussion might not be very relevant for long.”* **I’m aware.**\n
    > - *“Just use Firefox/Librewolf or any other privacy-conscious browser that isn’t Chromium-based.”* **I already do, but some websites/platforms don’t play nice on non-Chromium-based browsers due to Google’s monopoly on the web. Sometimes I can afford to not use that website/platform, but unfortunately not always.**\n
    > - *“Brave’s [insert controversy] makes them unreliable to take services from.”* **Honestly, I think that if both solutions are as effective that a reason like this might be sufficient to tip the balance in favor of one. Because ultimately this all comes down to trust.**\n
    > - *"Just use Ungoogled Chromium.*" **Some more knowledgeable people than me [advice against it](https://qua3k.github.io/ungoogled/). Though, I’d say I’m open to hear different opinions on this as long as they’re somewhat sophisticated**.\n
    > - *“Just use [insert another Chromium-based browser].”* **If it has merits beyond Brave and Chromium with respect to security and privacy, I’ll consider it.**\n
    > \n
    > Thanks in advance!\n
    > \n
    > ---\n
    > \n
    > 1. I can be more specific about which distro I prefer using, but I don’t think it matters. I might be wrong though*.
    """
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    date: 2023-09-21 13:18:09.0 +02:00
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  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1407 …}
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  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1909 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1910 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2381 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2378 …}
  +children: [
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      +image: null
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      +body: """
        I have only seen people saying this, but have never come across such a website that does not work properly on Firefox.\n
        \n
        I have only seen the issue that Jitsi does not support e2ee on Firefox.
        """
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      +score: 0
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        "@furzegulo@lemmy.dbzer0.com"
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      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1705 …}
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      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1604 …}
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  -titleTs: "'brave':3 'chromium':1 'vs':2"
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  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
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  +ranking: 1695301236
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    date: 2023-09-21 09:10:36.0 +02:00
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   …2
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1729
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  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1733 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1743 …}
  +slug: "Chromium-vs-Brave"
  +title: "Chromium vs Brave"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    cross-posted from: [sh.itjust.works/post/5572424](https://sh.itjust.works/post/5572424)\n
    \n
    > This might have been discussed to death by now, unfortunately I couldn’t find any discussion on it on Lemmy. Though I would love to be corrected on that!\n
    > \n
    > ---\n
    > \n
    > **How does an always on incognito Chromium with uBlock Origin on [medium mode](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium-mode) (and other hardening/privacy settings enabled) compare to Brave (with e.g. [Privacy Guides’ recommended settings](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/desktop-browsers/#brave)) with respect to security and privacy on Linux^[1]^?**\n
    > \n
    > Commonly heard [whataboutisms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism):\n
    > \n
    > - *“With the looming advent of Manifest v3, this discussion might not be very relevant for long.”* **I’m aware.**\n
    > - *“Just use Firefox/Librewolf or any other privacy-conscious browser that isn’t Chromium-based.”* **I already do, but some websites/platforms don’t play nice on non-Chromium-based browsers due to Google’s monopoly on the web. Sometimes I can afford to not use that website/platform, but unfortunately not always.**\n
    > - *“Brave’s [insert controversy] makes them unreliable to take services from.”* **Honestly, I think that if both solutions are as effective that a reason like this might be sufficient to tip the balance in favor of one. Because ultimately this all comes down to trust.**\n
    > - *"Just use Ungoogled Chromium.*" **Some more knowledgeable people than me [advice against it](https://qua3k.github.io/ungoogled/). Though, I’d say I’m open to hear different opinions on this as long as they’re somewhat sophisticated**.\n
    > - *“Just use [insert another Chromium-based browser].”* **If it has merits beyond Brave and Chromium with respect to security and privacy, I’ll consider it.**\n
    > \n
    > Thanks in advance!\n
    > \n
    > ---\n
    > \n
    > 1. I can be more specific about which distro I prefer using, but I don’t think it matters. I might be wrong though*.
    """
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  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2381 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2378 …}
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      +image: null
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        I have only seen people saying this, but have never come across such a website that does not work properly on Firefox.\n
        \n
        I have only seen the issue that Jitsi does not support e2ee on Firefox.
        """
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1729
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  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1733 …}
  +image: null
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    cross-posted from: [sh.itjust.works/post/5572424](https://sh.itjust.works/post/5572424)\n
    \n
    > This might have been discussed to death by now, unfortunately I couldn’t find any discussion on it on Lemmy. Though I would love to be corrected on that!\n
    > \n
    > ---\n
    > \n
    > **How does an always on incognito Chromium with uBlock Origin on [medium mode](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-medium-mode) (and other hardening/privacy settings enabled) compare to Brave (with e.g. [Privacy Guides’ recommended settings](https://www.privacyguides.org/en/desktop-browsers/#brave)) with respect to security and privacy on Linux^[1]^?**\n
    > \n
    > Commonly heard [whataboutisms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism):\n
    > \n
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      > - *“Just use Firefox/Librewolf or any other privacy-conscious browser that isn’t Chromium-based.”* **I already do, but some websites/platforms don’t play nice on non-Chromium-based browsers due to Google’s monopoly on the web. Sometimes I can afford to not use that website/platform, but unfortunately not always.**\n
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      > Thanks in advance!\n
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