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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
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  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
1.04 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.06 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
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    \n
    I have been a Windows user for my entire life. I recall having an iMac in my bedroom as a small boy, maybe 7-8, playing random offline games on it, but aside from that, my experience growing up was with Windows 98, XP, Vista, 8 and 10. I wouldn’t say I was ever a “power user” per se, although I could do several tasks that were more technical if needed, like locating driver files, updating `.dll`s, configuring compatibility settings, etc. I think being a good Googler made me seem more capable to my family than I really was, and I’m sure a lot of people here would share my experience!\n
    \n
    With the impending sundowning of Windows 10, an OS that I “begrudgingly accepted” (rather than actually enjoyed using, as with Vista), and realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat, I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu, installing it on a partition of my storage HDD. Windows did not want to play ball, no matter how much I begged and pleaded and bargained, and eventually I was met at a point where I had to decide what to do going forward. My system was just not behaving the way I wanted to with two OSes (“This town ain’t big enough for the both of us”), and figured,\n
    \n
    > Oh, what the hell. I’ll primary Ubuntu and when I need to use Windows I’ll run it on a thumb drive or something.\n
    \n
    Well, it’s been several weeks now and, even with a couple bumps along the way, I have not booted into Windows once since the switchover. How many of you had a similar experience? I was frankly a bit scared of CLI and thinking that I was going to brick my PC before I even had a chance to use it, so I kept all my personal files safely tucked away in a removed HDD until the break-in process was relatively complete. As time has gone on, I’ve gotten comfortable enough to have a backed up copy of my files on here, and every new program I go to install that I used on Windows has worked swimmingly on Linux.\n
    \n
    I can only thank the helpful, enthusiastic people here in the Linux community for making my experience so smooth. It’s rare you encounter a group of people where you can post what is ostensibly a stupid question, and be pummeled with dozens of well-formed, thoughtful, detailed responses to the question. There’s very little of that infamous grandiosity and self-righteousness that I’ve heard runs rampant in the Linux world, and maybe Lemmings are just more prone to being helpful than the wider internet, but for what it’s worth, I appreciate everything you all have done here so far.\n
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    I feel so much more capable as a computer user with Linux than I ever did on Windows. I’m automating tasks, I’m fine-tuning network drivers, I’m getting in the weeds of file architecture, and it’s all been a real blast to learn about. I actually feel a desire to learn so that I can help others have a similar experience to what I had coming into this.
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        You realize how much Linux is different to other OS only when you live with it. There’s a real philosophy, it’s not just some branding wording. If you feel adventurous enough you’ll certainly see your mindset and way of thinking evolving as time goes. You have so much possibilities to discover, I’m jealous of this sentiment of new user you’ll experience. I’ve personaly used to tweak Windows back in the days and its limitations (amongst other things) is one of the main reasons why I switched to Linux. Twenty years later I’m wondering how I didn’t know earlier that another world existed.\n
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        Beyond the fact that Linux has improved my workflow drastically compared to my Windows/MacOS colleagues, it also helped me grow intellectually. The best part is that it never ends because there’s always a new tool, app, distro to experiment, play with, and learn from.\n
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        Working with a system and not adapting to it or fighting against it is a huge difference. Linux has so many options that you can litterally build the system that fits your specific needs and liking to perfection (and even better than you can think now). It’s just a matter of few efforts. We’re not used to make efforts nowadays and prefer opting for the laziness of being the slaves of a system/brand but I can guarantee you will be rewarded for these efforts beyond your expectations.\n
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        Enjoy your new life!
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
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    I have been a Windows user for my entire life. I recall having an iMac in my bedroom as a small boy, maybe 7-8, playing random offline games on it, but aside from that, my experience growing up was with Windows 98, XP, Vista, 8 and 10. I wouldn’t say I was ever a “power user” per se, although I could do several tasks that were more technical if needed, like locating driver files, updating `.dll`s, configuring compatibility settings, etc. I think being a good Googler made me seem more capable to my family than I really was, and I’m sure a lot of people here would share my experience!\n
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    \n
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    \n
    Well, it’s been several weeks now and, even with a couple bumps along the way, I have not booted into Windows once since the switchover. How many of you had a similar experience? I was frankly a bit scared of CLI and thinking that I was going to brick my PC before I even had a chance to use it, so I kept all my personal files safely tucked away in a removed HDD until the break-in process was relatively complete. As time has gone on, I’ve gotten comfortable enough to have a backed up copy of my files on here, and every new program I go to install that I used on Windows has worked swimmingly on Linux.\n
    \n
    I can only thank the helpful, enthusiastic people here in the Linux community for making my experience so smooth. It’s rare you encounter a group of people where you can post what is ostensibly a stupid question, and be pummeled with dozens of well-formed, thoughtful, detailed responses to the question. There’s very little of that infamous grandiosity and self-righteousness that I’ve heard runs rampant in the Linux world, and maybe Lemmings are just more prone to being helpful than the wider internet, but for what it’s worth, I appreciate everything you all have done here so far.\n
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      I have been a Windows user for my entire life. I recall having an iMac in my bedroom as a small boy, maybe 7-8, playing random offline games on it, but aside from that, my experience growing up was with Windows 98, XP, Vista, 8 and 10. I wouldn’t say I was ever a “power user” per se, although I could do several tasks that were more technical if needed, like locating driver files, updating `.dll`s, configuring compatibility settings, etc. I think being a good Googler made me seem more capable to my family than I really was, and I’m sure a lot of people here would share my experience!\n
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      With the impending sundowning of Windows 10, an OS that I “begrudgingly accepted” (rather than actually enjoyed using, as with Vista), and realizing that 11 was only going to bring more ads, force-installed applications, background processes that were nigh-impossible to disable without a lot of tomfoolery, AI bullshit and general bloat, I figured that I would try dual-booting Ubuntu, installing it on a partition of my storage HDD. Windows did not want to play ball, no matter how much I begged and pleaded and bargained, and eventually I was met at a point where I had to decide what to do going forward. My system was just not behaving the way I wanted to with two OSes (“This town ain’t big enough for the both of us”), and figured,\n
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      > Oh, what the hell. I’ll primary Ubuntu and when I need to use Windows I’ll run it on a thumb drive or something.\n
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      Well, it’s been several weeks now and, even with a couple bumps along the way, I have not booted into Windows once since the switchover. How many of you had a similar experience? I was frankly a bit scared of CLI and thinking that I was going to brick my PC before I even had a chance to use it, so I kept all my personal files safely tucked away in a removed HDD until the break-in process was relatively complete. As time has gone on, I’ve gotten comfortable enough to have a backed up copy of my files on here, and every new program I go to install that I used on Windows has worked swimmingly on Linux.\n
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      I can only thank the helpful, enthusiastic people here in the Linux community for making my experience so smooth. It’s rare you encounter a group of people where you can post what is ostensibly a stupid question, and be pummeled with dozens of well-formed, thoughtful, detailed responses to the question. There’s very little of that infamous grandiosity and self-righteousness that I’ve heard runs rampant in the Linux world, and maybe Lemmings are just more prone to being helpful than the wider internet, but for what it’s worth, I appreciate everything you all have done here so far.\n
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      I feel so much more capable as a computer user with Linux than I ever did on Windows. I’m automating tasks, I’m fine-tuning network drivers, I’m getting in the weeds of file architecture, and it’s all been a real blast to learn about. I actually feel a desire to learn so that I can help others have a similar experience to what I had coming into this.
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    Beyond the fact that Linux has improved my workflow drastically compared to my Windows/MacOS colleagues, it also helped me grow intellectually. The best part is that it never ends because there’s always a new tool, app, distro to experiment, play with, and learn from.\n
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    Working with a system and not adapting to it or fighting against it is a huge difference. Linux has so many options that you can litterally build the system that fits your specific needs and liking to perfection (and even better than you can think now). It’s just a matter of few efforts. We’re not used to make efforts nowadays and prefer opting for the laziness of being the slaves of a system/brand but I can guarantee you will be rewarded for these efforts beyond your expectations.\n
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    I thought it would be easier to edit the post than reply to you all individually and thanks to everyone who took the time to respond so quickly.\n
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    I thought it would be easier to edit the post than reply to you all individually and thanks to everyone who took the time to respond so quickly.\n
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    I thought it would be easier to edit the post than reply to you all individually and thanks to everyone who took the time to respond so quickly.\n
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      I thought it would be easier to edit the post than reply to you all individually and thanks to everyone who took the time to respond so quickly.\n
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      I thought it would be easier to edit the post than reply to you all individually and thanks to everyone who took the time to respond so quickly.\n
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      I’ve just re-tried with the latest version 21.3 and it all works, maybe by newbie brain did something wrong with the first install.\n
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      I’ll probably stick with Pop_OS as it does what I need and I quite like the Gnome interface.\n
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      But again, thank you all for your input it’s awesome to know that swift help is available for idiots newbies like me.
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      ===========\n
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      I thought it would be easier to edit the post than reply to you all individually and thanks to everyone who took the time to respond so quickly.\n
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      I’ve just re-tried with the latest version 21.3 and it all works, maybe by newbie brain did something wrong with the first install.\n
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      I’ll probably stick with Pop_OS as it does what I need and I quite like the Gnome interface.\n
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      I thought it would be easier to edit the post than reply to you all individually and thanks to everyone who took the time to respond so quickly.\n
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      I’ve just re-tried with the latest version 21.3 and it all works, maybe by newbie brain did something wrong with the first install.\n
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      I thought it would be easier to edit the post than reply to you all individually and thanks to everyone who took the time to respond so quickly.\n
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      I thought it would be easier to edit the post than reply to you all individually and thanks to everyone who took the time to respond so quickly.\n
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      I’ve just re-tried with the latest version 21.3 and it all works, maybe by newbie brain did something wrong with the first install.\n
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      I’ll probably stick with Pop_OS as it does what I need and I quite like the Gnome interface.\n
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    I am potentially going to be able to put Linux on my work PC soon, have been using it on my personal PC and laptop quite happily with hyprland ontop of NixOS\n
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        You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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        I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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        [dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/)  \n
        [dwm.suckless.org/patches/selfrestart/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/selfrestart/)
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        You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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        I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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        [dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/)  \n
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    I am potentially going to be able to put Linux on my work PC soon, have been using it on my personal PC and laptop quite happily with hyprland ontop of NixOS\n
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    Is I3 still the best option for this or are there better alternatives? (leaning towards I3 ontop of KDE)\n
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        You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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        I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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        [dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/)  \n
        [dwm.suckless.org/patches/selfrestart/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/selfrestart/)
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      I am potentially going to be able to put Linux on my work PC soon, have been using it on my personal PC and laptop quite happily with hyprland ontop of NixOS\n
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          You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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          I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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          You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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          I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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          [dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/)  \n
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        +body: "When Wayland is eventually ready, I will personaly look into river. At least that’s what I would do now but no doubts that by the time everybody move to Wayland there will be way more options to consider. Hopefully one will be a good replacement for bspwm."
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          You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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          I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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          [dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/)  \n
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          I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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    You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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      I am potentially going to be able to put Linux on my work PC soon, have been using it on my personal PC and laptop quite happily with hyprland ontop of NixOS\n
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          I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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    You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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          I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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          [dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/)  \n
          [dwm.suckless.org/patches/selfrestart/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/selfrestart/)
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        +body: "When Wayland is eventually ready, I will personaly look into river. At least that’s what I would do now but no doubts that by the time everybody move to Wayland there will be way more options to consider. Hopefully one will be a good replacement for bspwm."
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    You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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      I am potentially going to be able to put Linux on my work PC soon, have been using it on my personal PC and laptop quite happily with hyprland ontop of NixOS\n
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      Is I3 still the best option for this or are there better alternatives? (leaning towards I3 ontop of KDE)\n
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          You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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    I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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    [dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/)  \n
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          You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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    I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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    [dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/)  \n
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      I am potentially going to be able to put Linux on my work PC soon, have been using it on my personal PC and laptop quite happily with hyprland ontop of NixOS\n
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          You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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    I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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    [dwm.suckless.org/patches/selfrestart/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/selfrestart/)
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          You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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          I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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          [dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/)  \n
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      Is I3 still the best option for this or are there better alternatives? (leaning towards I3 ontop of KDE)\n
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          You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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          I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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          [dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/)  \n
          [dwm.suckless.org/patches/selfrestart/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/selfrestart/)
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          You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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          I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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          You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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          I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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          [dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/restartsig/)  \n
          [dwm.suckless.org/patches/selfrestart/](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/selfrestart/)
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          You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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          I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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      I am potentially going to be able to put Linux on my work PC soon, have been using it on my personal PC and laptop quite happily with hyprland ontop of NixOS\n
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      Is I3 still the best option for this or are there better alternatives? (leaning towards I3 ontop of KDE)\n
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          You know how hard it is to explain personal preferences when we talk about tiling WM but, as I mentioned in my first post, I would say that bspwm offer some further granularity. I didn’t thought that was possible after using dwm but to come back to my example I have bspwm listening to the state of my media player. Everytime it becomes floating, bspwm resize the window, place it on a specific position, and add a border to it. This is just one example. Also, even though you can use it with any tiling WM, sxhkd has been developed with bspwm in mind and offers the best keybindings management I’ve ever tested. Thanks to chords, several commands can be associated to independent keybindings within the same piece of code like so:\n
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          I would need to go back to my old dwm config file but I think what you’re looking for is [this patch](https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/windowfollow/). In bspwm this is achieved with the “follow” option as shown in my example.\n
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    I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
    \n
    So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
    \n
    It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
    \n
    *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
    After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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    The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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    Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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    I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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        That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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        I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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        Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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      +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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        I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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        For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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      +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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      +body: """
        Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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        I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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        All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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      +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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      +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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        Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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        At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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        You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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    I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
    \n
    So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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    It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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    *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
    After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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    The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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    Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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    I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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        That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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        I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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        Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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      +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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        I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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        For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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      +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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        I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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        All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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        At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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        You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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    I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
    \n
    So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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    It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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    *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
    After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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    Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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    I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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        That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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        I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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      +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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        I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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        For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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      +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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      +body: """
        Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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        I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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        All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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      +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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      +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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        Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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        At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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        You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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        But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
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      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        +body: """
          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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          But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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    That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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    I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
    \n
    Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
      \n
      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
      \n
      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
          \n
          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
          \n
          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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          But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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    That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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    I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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    Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
      \n
      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        +body: """
          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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          But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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    That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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    I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
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      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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  +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
      \n
      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        +body: """
          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
          \n
          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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          But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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  +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
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      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        +body: """
          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
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      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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          But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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    I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
    \n
    For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
      \n
      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
      \n
      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
          \n
          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        +body: """
          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
          \n
          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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          But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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    I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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    For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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          But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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    I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
    \n
    For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
      \n
      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
      \n
      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
          \n
          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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          But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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  +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
      \n
      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
      \n
      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
      \n
      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
      \n
      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
      \n
      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
          \n
          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: """
          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
          \n
          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
          \n
          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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  +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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          But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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  +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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          But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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  +body: """
    Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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    I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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    All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
      \n
      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
      \n
      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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    Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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    I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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    All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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    Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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    I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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    All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
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      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        +body: """
          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
          \n
          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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          But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
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      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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          But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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  +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
      \n
      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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          But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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  +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        +body: """
          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        +body: """
          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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          But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        +body: """
          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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    Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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    At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
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      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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    Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        +body: """
          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
          \n
          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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    Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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    At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        +body: """
          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
          \n
          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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          But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
      \n
      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
      \n
      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        +body: """
          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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          You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
      \n
      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
      \n
      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
          \n
          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
          \n
          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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    You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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        +body: """
          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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          At least for now I’m glad to have a new toy I can mess up with. With my Arch system I was getting this weird feeling where I was happy to have an efficient and stable machine while at the same time being bored to have nothing to test/tweak/destroy and rebuild. I mean I love to learn and discover new things so I experiment a bunch of applications and parameters I will never need anyway but it becomes harder and harder to find something that keeps me entertained for more than a day.
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    You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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    But NixOS approach is quite different from others and I feel like I may discover something of interest to me once I learn more about it. Also, just for the sake of learning and discovering, I will continue experimenting with it for a while.
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      I’ve been curious about NixOS for quite some time. Reading about it I couldn’t see how the config sharing capabilities, setup, or rollabck would be better than Arch and sharing the list of installed packages, using downgrade or chroot.\n
      \n
      So I decided to run NixOS in a VM and I’m still confused. An advantage I can see for NixOS is its better use of cores and parallel processing for packages install.\n
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      It’s clear that I’m missing something so please help me understand what it is.\n
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      *Edit:* Thank you to everyone in this great community! It’s always so nice to have a constructive and sane discussion.  \n
      After reading so many comments, they all confirm what I’ve read before and I may realize that my real problem is already having a stable system and no need for the great NixOS options that are very neat but would not benefit my specific and simplistic needs. That being said I can’t refrain myself from being curious and will continue testing NixOS.\n
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      The need for only 2 config files is the top of the iceberg but hiding more complex configuration to rely on. Not that I really have too much spare time but I do enjoy learning and tweaking NixOS. With its current development state, things are changing a lot so it can keep me busy for months. That’s probably what I was mostly looking for: another toy to play with.\n
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      Along my journey I will learn a lot about NixOS and may find a feature that will motivate my switch to it. Thanks again for all your precious feedback!\n
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      I’ll also take this opportunity to share the best help I’ve found so far to start with NixOS: [github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config](https://github.com/MatthiasBenaets/nixos-config) And his 3 hours (!) video: [m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGVXJ-TIv3Y)
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          That’s what I keep reading and why I would like to give it a try. For now I’m still confused how this is easier/more efficient than sharing your list of packages, restoring a backup, or using downgrade in Arch. I’m really interested because I like to try new stuff, especially if they bring something of interest.\n
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          I really have hard time to see the difference for now after my first setup in a VM but also because imaging my full Arch system on a new machine 2 years ago only took me an hour and less than 10 command lines.\n
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          Again, I’m genuinely trying to understand what I’m missing. From my reading NixOS seems to be the only distro I could switch to.
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        +body: "Thanks for taking time to share this detailed thought. That’s an interesting point I forgot because I didn’t experience any related issues over 15 years with Arch but that’s still a nice approach. I can certainly see why this is a big plus for NixOS."
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          I can see that from a server maintenance point of view. After having read so many great things about NixOS, I may have exaggerated my expectation and I may be the problem for being a user with too limited needs to get the full benefits of NixOS.\n
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          For me this single config file doesn’t save that much additional files and most of them would be files you configure only once during installation. Nonetheless I can see how “easier” it would be to save one file instead of 3 to reproduce your system and I can only imagine how much better it is from a server point of view.
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        +body: "Thank you for this addition. I very much appreciate the fediverse community who is helping people to understand things, share their knowledge, and acting nicely (if we exclude some rare people who are clearly not used to live within a sane community). I’ve seen home manager but this raised one more question to me: what’s the added value compared to stow for example? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts."
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          Great feedback, thanks! I’ve appreciated being able to replicate my system in NixOS within only few hours. I found NixOS actually pretty easy to take a grasp on, though I still didn’t look at flakes in detail. You spot on the reason why I’m using Arch and a bunch of applications you can tweak to perfectly meet your own specific needs (neovim, neomutt, bspwm, rofi…).\n
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          I love spending time to config them and to learn new things. This is basically why I’m interested in NixOS as well. Being entirely satisfied with Arch and not being a distro hopper, the fact that I installed NixOS means a lot to me but now I need tangible reasons to fully move to it. Maybe time will help me in my decision.\n
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          All the great feedback in response to this post so far confirm how great NixOS is and I had no doubt about that. I may realize what it can bring me after some weeks of serious use. Thanks again for the time spent to write your feedback, very much appreciated
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        +body: "Due to the still early development of NixOS, Home manager is in some ways very similar to nix-env and flakes is still highly experimental. Also, the configuration parameters are changing quite significantly with the distro development. I’m sure this will all settle down when the distro will become more mature but to be honest that’s also what attracts me. I like chaos ^^ Seriously, this shows me some potential for great achievements. I will continue testing NixOS but for now I didn’t find THE reason to leave Arch yet. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. Will see where my journey leads me."
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        +body: "Or maybe I’m already too old for so much tech. But thanks for letting me think that I’m still a young boy ^^ Not helping with my question but pretty self satisfactory."
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          Right, I totally agree. If I would have to deploy my config on several machines or create dedicated config using a common base then I would have been convinced. I’m still not convinced from a dummy single user point of view but I still believe in this distro and like its approach so I’ll continue experimenting with it and we’ll see where my journey leads me.\n
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    You’re spot on and that’s what this discussion helped me figure out: I have no problem. I knew that but I also thought that NixOS would bring something new to improve my Linux usage. So far I still see such improvements for servers or deployment on several machines but not for a single user with standard needs (and this statement may be wrong and due to my limited experience with NixOS).\n
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