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Response
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Security

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Firewall

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Authenticators

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
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5 
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Access decision log

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"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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    > end of A Realm Reborn\n
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    Google says that’s roughly 120 hours, oof.\n
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      > end of A Realm Reborn\n
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      Google says that’s roughly 120 hours, oof.\n
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      > end of A Realm Reborn\n
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      Google says that’s roughly 120 hours, oof.\n
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    I’m usually not into games that “start at max level” either, but to me, going through the boring parts of ARR was worth it to get to the amazing expansions. I wouldn’t even say ARR is bad. It’s pretty standard MMO content for the most part. It’s just that the expansions are so good that ARR looks bad by comparison.\n
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      > end of A Realm Reborn\n
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    I’m usually not into games that “start at max level” either, but to me, going through the boring parts of ARR was worth it to get to the amazing expansions. I wouldn’t even say ARR is bad. It’s pretty standard MMO content for the most part. It’s just that the expansions are so good that ARR looks bad by comparison.\n
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      > end of A Realm Reborn\n
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      Google says that’s roughly 120 hours, oof.\n
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    The good news is that you don’t have to make a new character to play different classes or jobs—you can play every job on one character, so if you don’t have any intentions of starting an alt, you only have to put up with that ARR slog once.\n
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          Sheesh. I heard FFXIV is really good later in the game. But you first have to get over a 60 hour bump or something?\n
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      > end of A Realm Reborn\n
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      Google says that’s roughly 120 hours, oof.\n
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      > end of A Realm Reborn\n
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    It’s not that ARR is bad, just that Heavensward was such a jump in the quality of both writing and voice acting that it makes ARR look bad in hindsight. And the slog was actually the post-ARR section (ie patch content). It was awful. Largely cleaned up now though. Still long.\n
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      > end of A Realm Reborn\n
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      Google says that’s roughly 120 hours, oof.\n
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    It’s not that ARR is bad, just that Heavensward was such a jump in the quality of both writing and voice acting that it makes ARR look bad in hindsight. And the slog was actually the post-ARR section (ie patch content). It was awful. Largely cleaned up now though. Still long.\n
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      > end of A Realm Reborn\n
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      Google says that’s roughly 120 hours, oof.\n
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    It’s not that ARR is bad, just that Heavensward was such a jump in the quality of both writing and voice acting that it makes ARR look bad in hindsight. And the slog was actually the post-ARR section (ie patch content). It was awful. Largely cleaned up now though. Still long.\n
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