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216.73.217.10
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Security

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Firewall

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Configuration

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Authenticators

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
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2 
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5 
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7 
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
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12 
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13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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      5) This is not a support community.It is not a place for ‘how do I?’, type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to [Lemmy.world Support](https://lemmy.world/c/support) or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.\n
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      \n
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      \n
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      ----------------------\n
      \n
      [Tech Support](/c/techsupport@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
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      [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
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      [Reddit](/c/reddit@lemmy.world)\n
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      [Jokes](/c/jokes@lemmy.world)\n
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      [Ask Ouija](/c/askouija@lemmy.world)\n
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    I am an anarchist, so the idea of the community doing all the work, creating content, and then mods basically ruling over them as a reward, just doesn’t sit right with me.\n
    \n
    We the users should collectively be in control of all our social media, economically and with regards of controling what goes on, on there.\n
    \n
    All social media get’s its value from the users i.e. the network effect. However the users are subjected to a hierachical place where individuals in power act as tyrants.\n
    \n
    We create the value we should be in charge.\n
    \n
    Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
    \n
    post Scriptum: just having a voting mechanism, might be gamed by unsavory charcters or groups to game such a system, unless voting requires your clear name id, which comes with other issues of course.
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
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      A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions\n
      -----------------------------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **Rules: (interactive)**\n
      ------------------------\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. [Please familiarize yourself with them](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/)\n
      \n
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      \n
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      \n
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      \n
      3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either [!asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/asklemmyafterdark) or [!asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com](https://lemmynsfw.com/c/asklemmynsfw). NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].\n
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      5) This is not a support community.It is not a place for ‘how do I?’, type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to [Lemmy.world Support](https://lemmy.world/c/support) or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.\n
      \n
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      \n
      Reminder: The [terms of service](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/) apply here too.\n
      \n
      Partnered Communities:\n
      ----------------------\n
      \n
      [Tech Support](/c/techsupport@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Reddit](/c/reddit@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Jokes](/c/jokes@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Ask Ouija](/c/askouija@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      Logo design credit goes to: [tubbadu](/u/tubbadu@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
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      \n
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    I am an anarchist, so the idea of the community doing all the work, creating content, and then mods basically ruling over them as a reward, just doesn’t sit right with me.\n
    \n
    We the users should collectively be in control of all our social media, economically and with regards of controling what goes on, on there.\n
    \n
    All social media get’s its value from the users i.e. the network effect. However the users are subjected to a hierachical place where individuals in power act as tyrants.\n
    \n
    We create the value we should be in charge.\n
    \n
    Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
    \n
    post Scriptum: just having a voting mechanism, might be gamed by unsavory charcters or groups to game such a system, unless voting requires your clear name id, which comes with other issues of course.
    """
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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4 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\Entry {#2412
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      A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions\n
      -----------------------------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      **Rules: (interactive)**\n
      ------------------------\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. [Please familiarize yourself with them](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/)\n
      \n
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      We create the value we should be in charge.\n
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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    We have to assume that the majority of users will not be disruptive unless driven by the environment. Otherwise we might as well stop right there.\n
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      I am an anarchist, so the idea of the community doing all the work, creating content, and then mods basically ruling over them as a reward, just doesn’t sit right with me.\n
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      We the users should collectively be in control of all our social media, economically and with regards of controling what goes on, on there.\n
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      All social media get’s its value from the users i.e. the network effect. However the users are subjected to a hierachical place where individuals in power act as tyrants.\n
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      We create the value we should be in charge.\n
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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      post Scriptum: just having a voting mechanism, might be gamed by unsavory charcters or groups to game such a system, unless voting requires your clear name id, which comes with other issues of course.
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      From what I’ve seen in your replies, you seem to agree:\n
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      - Bad actors can easily ruin a community\n
      - It’s very easy for bad actors to game popularity-based systems like downvoting posts to remove them or upvoting posts to protect them\n
      - Bad actors can brigade communities to make it seem like active members support values different than what the majority actually held before the brigade\n
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      You’re dancing around the solution but refuse to admit it: you need a group of trusted users who have a longitudinal relationship with the community. This group of users can follow the community’s leanings over a long period of time, keep the discussion true to the community’s original vision, and easily identify bad actors. You need moderators.\n
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      It seems you’d be in favor of more laissez-faire moderation, but there’s still no better solution than moderation. Even if AI got good enough to do the job as well as a human, you’d still need a leader (the community creator or mods) to program the parameters of that AI. The truth is that your anarchist belief system simply doesn’t work as well in practice as it does in theory, and the only viable solution involves having *someone* in charge.
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    We have to assume that the majority of users will not be disruptive unless driven by the environment. Otherwise we might as well stop right there.\n
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    Assuming that it follows that such moderation without any individual in power might still be implemented by reflecting the community will through some mechanism. So voting doesn’t work as long as everybody can create a million bot accounts. Maybe there is a way to prevent that. Same with other approaches. I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody can come up with a technical solution for this.
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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      It seems you’d be in favor of more laissez-faire moderation, but there’s still no better solution than moderation. Even if AI got good enough to do the job as well as a human, you’d still need a leader (the community creator or mods) to program the parameters of that AI. The truth is that your anarchist belief system simply doesn’t work as well in practice as it does in theory, and the only viable solution involves having *someone* in charge.
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    We have to assume that the majority of users will not be disruptive unless driven by the environment. Otherwise we might as well stop right there.\n
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    Assuming that it follows that such moderation without any individual in power might still be implemented by reflecting the community will through some mechanism. So voting doesn’t work as long as everybody can create a million bot accounts. Maybe there is a way to prevent that. Same with other approaches. I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody can come up with a technical solution for this.
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      I am an anarchist, so the idea of the community doing all the work, creating content, and then mods basically ruling over them as a reward, just doesn’t sit right with me.\n
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      All social media get’s its value from the users i.e. the network effect. However the users are subjected to a hierachical place where individuals in power act as tyrants.\n
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      We create the value we should be in charge.\n
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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      post Scriptum: just having a voting mechanism, might be gamed by unsavory charcters or groups to game such a system, unless voting requires your clear name id, which comes with other issues of course.
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        From what I’ve seen in your replies, you seem to agree:\n
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        - Bad actors can easily ruin a community\n
        - It’s very easy for bad actors to game popularity-based systems like downvoting posts to remove them or upvoting posts to protect them\n
        - Bad actors can brigade communities to make it seem like active members support values different than what the majority actually held before the brigade\n
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        You’re dancing around the solution but refuse to admit it: you need a group of trusted users who have a longitudinal relationship with the community. This group of users can follow the community’s leanings over a long period of time, keep the discussion true to the community’s original vision, and easily identify bad actors. You need moderators.\n
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        It seems you’d be in favor of more laissez-faire moderation, but there’s still no better solution than moderation. Even if AI got good enough to do the job as well as a human, you’d still need a leader (the community creator or mods) to program the parameters of that AI. The truth is that your anarchist belief system simply doesn’t work as well in practice as it does in theory, and the only viable solution involves having *someone* in charge.
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      We have to assume that the majority of users will not be disruptive unless driven by the environment. Otherwise we might as well stop right there.\n
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      Assuming that it follows that such moderation without any individual in power might still be implemented by reflecting the community will through some mechanism. So voting doesn’t work as long as everybody can create a million bot accounts. Maybe there is a way to prevent that. Same with other approaches. I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody can come up with a technical solution for this.
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    Traditionally, this is done by IP, but IP spoofing is a thing.\n
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      I am an anarchist, so the idea of the community doing all the work, creating content, and then mods basically ruling over them as a reward, just doesn’t sit right with me.\n
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      We create the value we should be in charge.\n
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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        From what I’ve seen in your replies, you seem to agree:\n
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        You’re dancing around the solution but refuse to admit it: you need a group of trusted users who have a longitudinal relationship with the community. This group of users can follow the community’s leanings over a long period of time, keep the discussion true to the community’s original vision, and easily identify bad actors. You need moderators.\n
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        It seems you’d be in favor of more laissez-faire moderation, but there’s still no better solution than moderation. Even if AI got good enough to do the job as well as a human, you’d still need a leader (the community creator or mods) to program the parameters of that AI. The truth is that your anarchist belief system simply doesn’t work as well in practice as it does in theory, and the only viable solution involves having *someone* in charge.
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      We have to assume that the majority of users will not be disruptive unless driven by the environment. Otherwise we might as well stop right there.\n
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      Assuming that it follows that such moderation without any individual in power might still be implemented by reflecting the community will through some mechanism. So voting doesn’t work as long as everybody can create a million bot accounts. Maybe there is a way to prevent that. Same with other approaches. I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody can come up with a technical solution for this.
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    Traditionally, this is done by IP, but IP spoofing is a thing.\n
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    However, choosing not to allow duplicate or bot accounts is itself an administrative decision. It’s simply preemptive moderation.
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        From what I’ve seen in your replies, you seem to agree:\n
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        - Bad actors can easily ruin a community\n
        - It’s very easy for bad actors to game popularity-based systems like downvoting posts to remove them or upvoting posts to protect them\n
        - Bad actors can brigade communities to make it seem like active members support values different than what the majority actually held before the brigade\n
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        You’re dancing around the solution but refuse to admit it: you need a group of trusted users who have a longitudinal relationship with the community. This group of users can follow the community’s leanings over a long period of time, keep the discussion true to the community’s original vision, and easily identify bad actors. You need moderators.\n
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        It seems you’d be in favor of more laissez-faire moderation, but there’s still no better solution than moderation. Even if AI got good enough to do the job as well as a human, you’d still need a leader (the community creator or mods) to program the parameters of that AI. The truth is that your anarchist belief system simply doesn’t work as well in practice as it does in theory, and the only viable solution involves having *someone* in charge.
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      We have to assume that the majority of users will not be disruptive unless driven by the environment. Otherwise we might as well stop right there.\n
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      Assuming that it follows that such moderation without any individual in power might still be implemented by reflecting the community will through some mechanism. So voting doesn’t work as long as everybody can create a million bot accounts. Maybe there is a way to prevent that. Same with other approaches. I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody can come up with a technical solution for this.
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    Traditionally, this is done by IP, but IP spoofing is a thing.\n
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    However, choosing not to allow duplicate or bot accounts is itself an administrative decision. It’s simply preemptive moderation.
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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        From what I’ve seen in your replies, you seem to agree:\n
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        - It’s very easy for bad actors to game popularity-based systems like downvoting posts to remove them or upvoting posts to protect them\n
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        You’re dancing around the solution but refuse to admit it: you need a group of trusted users who have a longitudinal relationship with the community. This group of users can follow the community’s leanings over a long period of time, keep the discussion true to the community’s original vision, and easily identify bad actors. You need moderators.\n
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        It seems you’d be in favor of more laissez-faire moderation, but there’s still no better solution than moderation. Even if AI got good enough to do the job as well as a human, you’d still need a leader (the community creator or mods) to program the parameters of that AI. The truth is that your anarchist belief system simply doesn’t work as well in practice as it does in theory, and the only viable solution involves having *someone* in charge.
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      We have to assume that the majority of users will not be disruptive unless driven by the environment. Otherwise we might as well stop right there.\n
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      Assuming that it follows that such moderation without any individual in power might still be implemented by reflecting the community will through some mechanism. So voting doesn’t work as long as everybody can create a million bot accounts. Maybe there is a way to prevent that. Same with other approaches. I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody can come up with a technical solution for this.
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    > We have to assume that the majority of users will not be disruptive\n
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      I am an anarchist, so the idea of the community doing all the work, creating content, and then mods basically ruling over them as a reward, just doesn’t sit right with me.\n
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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      post Scriptum: just having a voting mechanism, might be gamed by unsavory charcters or groups to game such a system, unless voting requires your clear name id, which comes with other issues of course.
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        From what I’ve seen in your replies, you seem to agree:\n
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        You’re dancing around the solution but refuse to admit it: you need a group of trusted users who have a longitudinal relationship with the community. This group of users can follow the community’s leanings over a long period of time, keep the discussion true to the community’s original vision, and easily identify bad actors. You need moderators.\n
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        It seems you’d be in favor of more laissez-faire moderation, but there’s still no better solution than moderation. Even if AI got good enough to do the job as well as a human, you’d still need a leader (the community creator or mods) to program the parameters of that AI. The truth is that your anarchist belief system simply doesn’t work as well in practice as it does in theory, and the only viable solution involves having *someone* in charge.
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      We have to assume that the majority of users will not be disruptive unless driven by the environment. Otherwise we might as well stop right there.\n
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      Assuming that it follows that such moderation without any individual in power might still be implemented by reflecting the community will through some mechanism. So voting doesn’t work as long as everybody can create a million bot accounts. Maybe there is a way to prevent that. Same with other approaches. I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody can come up with a technical solution for this.
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      I am an anarchist, so the idea of the community doing all the work, creating content, and then mods basically ruling over them as a reward, just doesn’t sit right with me.\n
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      We the users should collectively be in control of all our social media, economically and with regards of controling what goes on, on there.\n
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      All social media get’s its value from the users i.e. the network effect. However the users are subjected to a hierachical place where individuals in power act as tyrants.\n
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      We create the value we should be in charge.\n
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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      post Scriptum: just having a voting mechanism, might be gamed by unsavory charcters or groups to game such a system, unless voting requires your clear name id, which comes with other issues of course.
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        From what I’ve seen in your replies, you seem to agree:\n
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        - It’s very easy for bad actors to game popularity-based systems like downvoting posts to remove them or upvoting posts to protect them\n
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        You’re dancing around the solution but refuse to admit it: you need a group of trusted users who have a longitudinal relationship with the community. This group of users can follow the community’s leanings over a long period of time, keep the discussion true to the community’s original vision, and easily identify bad actors. You need moderators.\n
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        It seems you’d be in favor of more laissez-faire moderation, but there’s still no better solution than moderation. Even if AI got good enough to do the job as well as a human, you’d still need a leader (the community creator or mods) to program the parameters of that AI. The truth is that your anarchist belief system simply doesn’t work as well in practice as it does in theory, and the only viable solution involves having *someone* in charge.
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      We have to assume that the majority of users will not be disruptive unless driven by the environment. Otherwise we might as well stop right there.\n
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      Assuming that it follows that such moderation without any individual in power might still be implemented by reflecting the community will through some mechanism. So voting doesn’t work as long as everybody can create a million bot accounts. Maybe there is a way to prevent that. Same with other approaches. I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody can come up with a technical solution for this.
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    > We have to assume that the majority of users will not be disruptive\n
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    That’s a reasonable assumption, however it only takes a very small number of “bad actors” to do a disproportionately large amount of damage.
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        We have to assume that the majority of users will not be disruptive unless driven by the environment. Otherwise we might as well stop right there.\n
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      > We have to assume that the majority of users will not be disruptive\n
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      That’s a reasonable assumption, however it only takes a very small number of “bad actors” to do a disproportionately large amount of damage.
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      I am an anarchist, so the idea of the community doing all the work, creating content, and then mods basically ruling over them as a reward, just doesn’t sit right with me.\n
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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          From what I’ve seen in your replies, you seem to agree:\n
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          - Bad actors can easily ruin a community\n
          - It’s very easy for bad actors to game popularity-based systems like downvoting posts to remove them or upvoting posts to protect them\n
          - Bad actors can brigade communities to make it seem like active members support values different than what the majority actually held before the brigade\n
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          You’re dancing around the solution but refuse to admit it: you need a group of trusted users who have a longitudinal relationship with the community. This group of users can follow the community’s leanings over a long period of time, keep the discussion true to the community’s original vision, and easily identify bad actors. You need moderators.\n
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          It seems you’d be in favor of more laissez-faire moderation, but there’s still no better solution than moderation. Even if AI got good enough to do the job as well as a human, you’d still need a leader (the community creator or mods) to program the parameters of that AI. The truth is that your anarchist belief system simply doesn’t work as well in practice as it does in theory, and the only viable solution involves having *someone* in charge.
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        We have to assume that the majority of users will not be disruptive unless driven by the environment. Otherwise we might as well stop right there.\n
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        Assuming that it follows that such moderation without any individual in power might still be implemented by reflecting the community will through some mechanism. So voting doesn’t work as long as everybody can create a million bot accounts. Maybe there is a way to prevent that. Same with other approaches. I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody can come up with a technical solution for this.
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      I am an anarchist, so the idea of the community doing all the work, creating content, and then mods basically ruling over them as a reward, just doesn’t sit right with me.\n
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          From what I’ve seen in your replies, you seem to agree:\n
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          You’re dancing around the solution but refuse to admit it: you need a group of trusted users who have a longitudinal relationship with the community. This group of users can follow the community’s leanings over a long period of time, keep the discussion true to the community’s original vision, and easily identify bad actors. You need moderators.\n
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          It seems you’d be in favor of more laissez-faire moderation, but there’s still no better solution than moderation. Even if AI got good enough to do the job as well as a human, you’d still need a leader (the community creator or mods) to program the parameters of that AI. The truth is that your anarchist belief system simply doesn’t work as well in practice as it does in theory, and the only viable solution involves having *someone* in charge.
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        We have to assume that the majority of users will not be disruptive unless driven by the environment. Otherwise we might as well stop right there.\n
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        Assuming that it follows that such moderation without any individual in power might still be implemented by reflecting the community will through some mechanism. So voting doesn’t work as long as everybody can create a million bot accounts. Maybe there is a way to prevent that. Same with other approaches. I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody can come up with a technical solution for this.
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    > The bigger issue is who runs the software and on what hardware? Implementing safeguards to keep server admins in line with the community would be much more difficult than mods.\n
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      I don't think there is a technological silver bullet, but technology might enable you to overcome your concerns. Reading other answers and your comments, one concern seems to be the inability to influence mods once they are in their post. That seems easy enough to address through community voting implemented and enforced by the software.\n
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      What your really need to do is sit down and game out the situations and actions you need, and that becomes the basis for your functional software spec.\n
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    > The bigger issue is who runs the software and on what hardware? Implementing safeguards to keep server admins in line with the community would be much more difficult than mods.\n
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    could this maybe be adressed through the use of peer to peer technology similar to bittorrent?
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    > The bigger issue is who runs the software and on what hardware? Implementing safeguards to keep server admins in line with the community would be much more difficult than mods.\n
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    > It only worked with primitive and small groups of people\n
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        Anarchism doesn’t mean chaos or everybody vs everybody. Anarchism come from the greek word for without rulers. it basically means democracy rule by the people.\n
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    > It only worked with primitive and small groups of people\n
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    Through recursion any organizing principle that works for a small group can be extended to work on a group of any size. Example the military: 10 soldiers are a squad and lead by a seargant and ten such squads are lead in exactly the same way by a Leftenant. In turn 10 of these companies are then ran by a commander in the exact same fashion.
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        Detractors of anarchism have in the past century equated anarchism with chaos to discredit it.
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    > It only worked with primitive and small groups of people\n
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    Through recursion any organizing principle that works for a small group can be extended to work on a group of any size. Example the military: 10 soldiers are a squad and lead by a seargant and ten such squads are lead in exactly the same way by a Leftenant. In turn 10 of these companies are then ran by a commander in the exact same fashion.
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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    > Say a user spams CSAM material, how does that get removed? Do you have to wait for a plurality of users to agree (slow), can anybody remove anything instantly (easily abused), or can nothing be removed? (Illegal and also fucked up in this example).\n
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    exactly, this is one of the core obstacles to overcome, it’s clear to everybody that (with few exceptions) nobody wants casm material online or even existing in the first place. One user or a group of them shouldn’t be allowed to curtail the freedom of the entire community by subjecting them to awful content. However if ten downvotes means your post and you are gone, then that would be used by other (less) unsavory characters, to remove anybody they dislike…\n
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      That’s what you have with the Fediverse, you can participate in a community that’s self governing and follow their rules or set off and make your own.\n
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      I’m curious how you think removing mods would go however.\n
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    exactly, this is one of the core obstacles to overcome, it’s clear to everybody that (with few exceptions) nobody wants casm material online or even existing in the first place. One user or a group of them shouldn’t be allowed to curtail the freedom of the entire community by subjecting them to awful content. However if ten downvotes means your post and you are gone, then that would be used by other (less) unsavory characters, to remove anybody they dislike…\n
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      That’s what you have with the Fediverse, you can participate in a community that’s self governing and follow their rules or set off and make your own.\n
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    > Say a user spams CSAM material, how does that get removed? Do you have to wait for a plurality of users to agree (slow), can anybody remove anything instantly (easily abused), or can nothing be removed? (Illegal and also fucked up in this example).\n
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    exactly, this is one of the core obstacles to overcome, it’s clear to everybody that (with few exceptions) nobody wants casm material online or even existing in the first place. One user or a group of them shouldn’t be allowed to curtail the freedom of the entire community by subjecting them to awful content. However if ten downvotes means your post and you are gone, then that would be used by other (less) unsavory characters, to remove anybody they dislike…\n
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    This is what my post among others is asking, how to resolve this issue, with a technical solution?
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        That’s what you have with the Fediverse, you can participate in a community that’s self governing and follow their rules or set off and make your own.\n
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        I’m curious how you think removing mods would go however.\n
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        Say a user spams CSAM material, how does that get removed? Do you have to wait for a plurality of users to agree (slow), can anybody remove anything instantly (easily abused), or can nothing be removed? (Illegal and also fucked up in this example).\n
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      > Say a user spams CSAM material, how does that get removed? Do you have to wait for a plurality of users to agree (slow), can anybody remove anything instantly (easily abused), or can nothing be removed? (Illegal and also fucked up in this example).\n
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      exactly, this is one of the core obstacles to overcome, it’s clear to everybody that (with few exceptions) nobody wants casm material online or even existing in the first place. One user or a group of them shouldn’t be allowed to curtail the freedom of the entire community by subjecting them to awful content. However if ten downvotes means your post and you are gone, then that would be used by other (less) unsavory characters, to remove anybody they dislike…\n
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      This is what my post among others is asking, how to resolve this issue, with a technical solution?
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    There is no technical solution to preventing the tragedy of the commons.\n
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        That’s what you have with the Fediverse, you can participate in a community that’s self governing and follow their rules or set off and make your own.\n
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        I’m curious how you think removing mods would go however.\n
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        Say a user spams CSAM material, how does that get removed? Do you have to wait for a plurality of users to agree (slow), can anybody remove anything instantly (easily abused), or can nothing be removed? (Illegal and also fucked up in this example).\n
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      This is what my post among others is asking, how to resolve this issue, with a technical solution?
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    There is no technical solution to preventing the tragedy of the commons.\n
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        That’s what you have with the Fediverse, you can participate in a community that’s self governing and follow their rules or set off and make your own.\n
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          That’s what you have with the Fediverse, you can participate in a community that’s self governing and follow their rules or set off and make your own.\n
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          I’m curious how you think removing mods would go however.\n
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          Say a user spams CSAM material, how does that get removed? Do you have to wait for a plurality of users to agree (slow), can anybody remove anything instantly (easily abused), or can nothing be removed? (Illegal and also fucked up in this example).\n
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        > Say a user spams CSAM material, how does that get removed? Do you have to wait for a plurality of users to agree (slow), can anybody remove anything instantly (easily abused), or can nothing be removed? (Illegal and also fucked up in this example).\n
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        exactly, this is one of the core obstacles to overcome, it’s clear to everybody that (with few exceptions) nobody wants casm material online or even existing in the first place. One user or a group of them shouldn’t be allowed to curtail the freedom of the entire community by subjecting them to awful content. However if ten downvotes means your post and you are gone, then that would be used by other (less) unsavory characters, to remove anybody they dislike…\n
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        This is what my post among others is asking, how to resolve this issue, with a technical solution?
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      There is no technical solution to preventing the tragedy of the commons.\n
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          That’s what you have with the Fediverse, you can participate in a community that’s self governing and follow their rules or set off and make your own.\n
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          I’m curious how you think removing mods would go however.\n
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          Say a user spams CSAM material, how does that get removed? Do you have to wait for a plurality of users to agree (slow), can anybody remove anything instantly (easily abused), or can nothing be removed? (Illegal and also fucked up in this example).\n
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          Mods a job not a hierarchy, what’s needed is good public controls to choose mods.
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        > Say a user spams CSAM material, how does that get removed? Do you have to wait for a plurality of users to agree (slow), can anybody remove anything instantly (easily abused), or can nothing be removed? (Illegal and also fucked up in this example).\n
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        exactly, this is one of the core obstacles to overcome, it’s clear to everybody that (with few exceptions) nobody wants casm material online or even existing in the first place. One user or a group of them shouldn’t be allowed to curtail the freedom of the entire community by subjecting them to awful content. However if ten downvotes means your post and you are gone, then that would be used by other (less) unsavory characters, to remove anybody they dislike…\n
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        This is what my post among others is asking, how to resolve this issue, with a technical solution?
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      There is no technical solution to preventing the tragedy of the commons.\n
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          That’s what you have with the Fediverse, you can participate in a community that’s self governing and follow their rules or set off and make your own.\n
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          I’m curious how you think removing mods would go however.\n
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          Say a user spams CSAM material, how does that get removed? Do you have to wait for a plurality of users to agree (slow), can anybody remove anything instantly (easily abused), or can nothing be removed? (Illegal and also fucked up in this example).\n
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        > Say a user spams CSAM material, how does that get removed? Do you have to wait for a plurality of users to agree (slow), can anybody remove anything instantly (easily abused), or can nothing be removed? (Illegal and also fucked up in this example).\n
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        exactly, this is one of the core obstacles to overcome, it’s clear to everybody that (with few exceptions) nobody wants casm material online or even existing in the first place. One user or a group of them shouldn’t be allowed to curtail the freedom of the entire community by subjecting them to awful content. However if ten downvotes means your post and you are gone, then that would be used by other (less) unsavory characters, to remove anybody they dislike…\n
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        This is what my post among others is asking, how to resolve this issue, with a technical solution?
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      There is no technical solution to preventing the tragedy of the commons.\n
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      Further discussion won’t change human nature.
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      That’s what you have with the Fediverse, you can participate in a community that’s self governing and follow their rules or set off and make your own.\n
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    To piggy back a bit, I can block people from kbin, so I've thought about this a bit.\n
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      That’s what you have with the Fediverse, you can participate in a community that’s self governing and follow their rules or set off and make your own.\n
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        +body: "Look at 4chan to see how that works out. Almost no moderation there and it turned into a right wing bastion. Pretty far from anarchy, if you ask me."
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      Ignoring the former and only considering the latter, as others have mentioned, mods serve a janitorial function. If you anticipate a stable user population, you could implement terms for mods, so no one has the role for more than, say, a month. Like students in Japan who have to clean their own classrooms, having all members take a turn might help. You could have more than 1 mod at a time with a staggered start so that (a) they get experienced support and (b) accountability/prevention to prevent someone from taking over. Finally a 3rd role, someone who's only ability is to boot a mod if needed
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      All social media get’s its value from the users i.e. the network effect. However the users are subjected to a hierachical place where individuals in power act as tyrants.\n
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    > mods basically ruling over them\n
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      We create the value we should be in charge.\n
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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      post Scriptum: just having a voting mechanism, might be gamed by unsavory charcters or groups to game such a system, unless voting requires your clear name id, which comes with other issues of course.
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      > mods basically ruling over them\n
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      A proper mod isn’t a ruler, but rather a janitor - someone who keeps the place clean so others can enjoy it. Without that, it is only a matter of time until someone decides to shit all over the place for funsies and then you can either decide to clean up - at which point you become a mod - or continue hosting the shitshow, and that is never fun. I don’t know about a single “anarchist” social media site that lasted longer than a week at best, so I doubt it is possible.\n
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      Imagine you actually hosted a completely anarchist site and then you start to recieve death threats, doxxing, literally illegal content etc. … what are you going to do then? Serious question.
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    > what are you going to do then?\n
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    this is exactly what this post is asking, of course the issue is broader and entails other issues like how to actually represent the community will without distortions and so forth…\n
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    Idk myself otherwise I would be working on the implementation already. I think maybe if the communty can vote out users that might be a first starting point, but then it would devolve into mob rule and that is not freedom but just might makes right.
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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    Idk myself otherwise I would be working on the implementation already. I think maybe if the communty can vote out users that might be a first starting point, but then it would devolve into mob rule and that is not freedom but just might makes right.
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      I am an anarchist, so the idea of the community doing all the work, creating content, and then mods basically ruling over them as a reward, just doesn’t sit right with me.\n
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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      post Scriptum: just having a voting mechanism, might be gamed by unsavory charcters or groups to game such a system, unless voting requires your clear name id, which comes with other issues of course.
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      > mods basically ruling over them\n
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      A proper mod isn’t a ruler, but rather a janitor - someone who keeps the place clean so others can enjoy it. Without that, it is only a matter of time until someone decides to shit all over the place for funsies and then you can either decide to clean up - at which point you become a mod - or continue hosting the shitshow, and that is never fun. I don’t know about a single “anarchist” social media site that lasted longer than a week at best, so I doubt it is possible.\n
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      Imagine you actually hosted a completely anarchist site and then you start to recieve death threats, doxxing, literally illegal content etc. … what are you going to do then? Serious question.
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      I am an anarchist, so the idea of the community doing all the work, creating content, and then mods basically ruling over them as a reward, just doesn’t sit right with me.\n
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      We the users should collectively be in control of all our social media, economically and with regards of controling what goes on, on there.\n
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      All social media get’s its value from the users i.e. the network effect. However the users are subjected to a hierachical place where individuals in power act as tyrants.\n
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      We create the value we should be in charge.\n
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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      post Scriptum: just having a voting mechanism, might be gamed by unsavory charcters or groups to game such a system, unless voting requires your clear name id, which comes with other issues of course.
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        > mods basically ruling over them\n
        \n
        A proper mod isn’t a ruler, but rather a janitor - someone who keeps the place clean so others can enjoy it. Without that, it is only a matter of time until someone decides to shit all over the place for funsies and then you can either decide to clean up - at which point you become a mod - or continue hosting the shitshow, and that is never fun. I don’t know about a single “anarchist” social media site that lasted longer than a week at best, so I doubt it is possible.\n
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        Imagine you actually hosted a completely anarchist site and then you start to recieve death threats, doxxing, literally illegal content etc. … what are you going to do then? Serious question.
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      > what are you going to do then?\n
      \n
      this is exactly what this post is asking, of course the issue is broader and entails other issues like how to actually represent the community will without distortions and so forth…\n
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      Idk myself otherwise I would be working on the implementation already. I think maybe if the communty can vote out users that might be a first starting point, but then it would devolve into mob rule and that is not freedom but just might makes right.
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    The simple answer is; it won’t work. It works **in theory** if - and only IF - all people involved will automatically behave on their own and treat all others with respect. An open-to-all social media website without any moderation at all *will* attract assholes sooner or later, and it *will* turn into a shitshow eventually. The question is not IF it will happen, but WHEN.\n
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    What you are asking for is like planting a garden full of flowers, deciding to never ever weed out the plants you don’t like, and then wondering why you end up with an overgrown, tangled mess instead of a flower field. It won’t magically regulate itself just because you don’t want a gardener.
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      I am an anarchist, so the idea of the community doing all the work, creating content, and then mods basically ruling over them as a reward, just doesn’t sit right with me.\n
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      All social media get’s its value from the users i.e. the network effect. However the users are subjected to a hierachical place where individuals in power act as tyrants.\n
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      We create the value we should be in charge.\n
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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      post Scriptum: just having a voting mechanism, might be gamed by unsavory charcters or groups to game such a system, unless voting requires your clear name id, which comes with other issues of course.
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        > mods basically ruling over them\n
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        A proper mod isn’t a ruler, but rather a janitor - someone who keeps the place clean so others can enjoy it. Without that, it is only a matter of time until someone decides to shit all over the place for funsies and then you can either decide to clean up - at which point you become a mod - or continue hosting the shitshow, and that is never fun. I don’t know about a single “anarchist” social media site that lasted longer than a week at best, so I doubt it is possible.\n
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        Imagine you actually hosted a completely anarchist site and then you start to recieve death threats, doxxing, literally illegal content etc. … what are you going to do then? Serious question.
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      > what are you going to do then?\n
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      this is exactly what this post is asking, of course the issue is broader and entails other issues like how to actually represent the community will without distortions and so forth…\n
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      Idk myself otherwise I would be working on the implementation already. I think maybe if the communty can vote out users that might be a first starting point, but then it would devolve into mob rule and that is not freedom but just might makes right.
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    The simple answer is; it won’t work. It works **in theory** if - and only IF - all people involved will automatically behave on their own and treat all others with respect. An open-to-all social media website without any moderation at all *will* attract assholes sooner or later, and it *will* turn into a shitshow eventually. The question is not IF it will happen, but WHEN.\n
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    What you are asking for is like planting a garden full of flowers, deciding to never ever weed out the plants you don’t like, and then wondering why you end up with an overgrown, tangled mess instead of a flower field. It won’t magically regulate itself just because you don’t want a gardener.
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      I am an anarchist, so the idea of the community doing all the work, creating content, and then mods basically ruling over them as a reward, just doesn’t sit right with me.\n
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      We the users should collectively be in control of all our social media, economically and with regards of controling what goes on, on there.\n
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      All social media get’s its value from the users i.e. the network effect. However the users are subjected to a hierachical place where individuals in power act as tyrants.\n
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      We create the value we should be in charge.\n
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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      post Scriptum: just having a voting mechanism, might be gamed by unsavory charcters or groups to game such a system, unless voting requires your clear name id, which comes with other issues of course.
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        > mods basically ruling over them\n
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        A proper mod isn’t a ruler, but rather a janitor - someone who keeps the place clean so others can enjoy it. Without that, it is only a matter of time until someone decides to shit all over the place for funsies and then you can either decide to clean up - at which point you become a mod - or continue hosting the shitshow, and that is never fun. I don’t know about a single “anarchist” social media site that lasted longer than a week at best, so I doubt it is possible.\n
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        Imagine you actually hosted a completely anarchist site and then you start to recieve death threats, doxxing, literally illegal content etc. … what are you going to do then? Serious question.
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      > what are you going to do then?\n
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      this is exactly what this post is asking, of course the issue is broader and entails other issues like how to actually represent the community will without distortions and so forth…\n
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      Idk myself otherwise I would be working on the implementation already. I think maybe if the communty can vote out users that might be a first starting point, but then it would devolve into mob rule and that is not freedom but just might makes right.
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    The simple answer is; it won’t work. It works **in theory** if - and only IF - all people involved will automatically behave on their own and treat all others with respect. An open-to-all social media website without any moderation at all *will* attract assholes sooner or later, and it *will* turn into a shitshow eventually. The question is not IF it will happen, but WHEN.\n
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    What you are asking for is like planting a garden full of flowers, deciding to never ever weed out the plants you don’t like, and then wondering why you end up with an overgrown, tangled mess instead of a flower field. It won’t magically regulate itself just because you don’t want a gardener.
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      I am an anarchist, so the idea of the community doing all the work, creating content, and then mods basically ruling over them as a reward, just doesn’t sit right with me.\n
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      We the users should collectively be in control of all our social media, economically and with regards of controling what goes on, on there.\n
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      All social media get’s its value from the users i.e. the network effect. However the users are subjected to a hierachical place where individuals in power act as tyrants.\n
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      We create the value we should be in charge.\n
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      Fellow Lemmings how can we create social media were the users are king/queen?\n
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      post Scriptum: just having a voting mechanism, might be gamed by unsavory charcters or groups to game such a system, unless voting requires your clear name id, which comes with other issues of course.
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          > mods basically ruling over them\n
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          A proper mod isn’t a ruler, but rather a janitor - someone who keeps the place clean so others can enjoy it. Without that, it is only a matter of time until someone decides to shit all over the place for funsies and then you can either decide to clean up - at which point you become a mod - or continue hosting the shitshow, and that is never fun. I don’t know about a single “anarchist” social media site that lasted longer than a week at best, so I doubt it is possible.\n
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          Imagine you actually hosted a completely anarchist site and then you start to recieve death threats, doxxing, literally illegal content etc. … what are you going to do then? Serious question.
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        > what are you going to do then?\n
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        this is exactly what this post is asking, of course the issue is broader and entails other issues like how to actually represent the community will without distortions and so forth…\n
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        Idk myself otherwise I would be working on the implementation already. I think maybe if the communty can vote out users that might be a first starting point, but then it would devolve into mob rule and that is not freedom but just might makes right.
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      The simple answer is; it won’t work. It works **in theory** if - and only IF - all people involved will automatically behave on their own and treat all others with respect. An open-to-all social media website without any moderation at all *will* attract assholes sooner or later, and it *will* turn into a shitshow eventually. The question is not IF it will happen, but WHEN.\n
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          > mods basically ruling over them\n
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          A proper mod isn’t a ruler, but rather a janitor - someone who keeps the place clean so others can enjoy it. Without that, it is only a matter of time until someone decides to shit all over the place for funsies and then you can either decide to clean up - at which point you become a mod - or continue hosting the shitshow, and that is never fun. I don’t know about a single “anarchist” social media site that lasted longer than a week at best, so I doubt it is possible.\n
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          Imagine you actually hosted a completely anarchist site and then you start to recieve death threats, doxxing, literally illegal content etc. … what are you going to do then? Serious question.
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        > what are you going to do then?\n
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        this is exactly what this post is asking, of course the issue is broader and entails other issues like how to actually represent the community will without distortions and so forth…\n
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        Idk myself otherwise I would be working on the implementation already. I think maybe if the communty can vote out users that might be a first starting point, but then it would devolve into mob rule and that is not freedom but just might makes right.
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      The simple answer is; it won’t work. It works **in theory** if - and only IF - all people involved will automatically behave on their own and treat all others with respect. An open-to-all social media website without any moderation at all *will* attract assholes sooner or later, and it *will* turn into a shitshow eventually. The question is not IF it will happen, but WHEN.\n
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      What you are asking for is like planting a garden full of flowers, deciding to never ever weed out the plants you don’t like, and then wondering why you end up with an overgrown, tangled mess instead of a flower field. It won’t magically regulate itself just because you don’t want a gardener.
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          > mods basically ruling over them\n
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          A proper mod isn’t a ruler, but rather a janitor - someone who keeps the place clean so others can enjoy it. Without that, it is only a matter of time until someone decides to shit all over the place for funsies and then you can either decide to clean up - at which point you become a mod - or continue hosting the shitshow, and that is never fun. I don’t know about a single “anarchist” social media site that lasted longer than a week at best, so I doubt it is possible.\n
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          Imagine you actually hosted a completely anarchist site and then you start to recieve death threats, doxxing, literally illegal content etc. … what are you going to do then? Serious question.
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        > what are you going to do then?\n
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        Idk myself otherwise I would be working on the implementation already. I think maybe if the communty can vote out users that might be a first starting point, but then it would devolve into mob rule and that is not freedom but just might makes right.
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      The simple answer is; it won’t work. It works **in theory** if - and only IF - all people involved will automatically behave on their own and treat all others with respect. An open-to-all social media website without any moderation at all *will* attract assholes sooner or later, and it *will* turn into a shitshow eventually. The question is not IF it will happen, but WHEN.\n
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