Symfony Profiler

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name

Security enabled

Stateless

Configuration

Key	Value
provider	security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context	main
entry_point	App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker	App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler	(none)
access_denied_url	(none)
authenticators	[`"two_factor" "remember_me" "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator" "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator" "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator" "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator" "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"`]

Listeners

Listener	Duration	Response
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …} -sessionKey: "_security_main" -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …} -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …} -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …} -registered: false -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …} -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}}	0.27 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584`-authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582`-twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …} -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}`}	0.04 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579`-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …} -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786`-tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …} -options: [ "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token" "csrf_token_id" => "logout" "logout_path" => "app_logout" ] -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …} -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …} -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy


"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

#	Voter class
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2	"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5	"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6	"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7	"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8	"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9	"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10	"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11	"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12	"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13	"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14	"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log


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      =========================================\n
      \n
      > A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.\n
      \n
      ![](https://mander.xyz/pictrs/image/139561f5-2f4d-48a6-aef0-65943d6d97d3.png)\n
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      \n
      ---\n
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      2. Keep it rooted (on topic).\n
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      ---\n
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      ------------------\n
      \n
      - [!spiders@lemmy.world](/c/spiders@lemmy.world)\n
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      ------------------------\n
      \n
      ### Science and Research\n
      \n
      - [!academia@mander.xyz](/c/academia@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!science@mander.xyz](/c/science@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!scicomm@mander.xyz](/c/scicomm@mander.xyz)\n
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      ### Biology and Life Sciences\n
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      - [!abiogenesis@mander.xyz](/c/abiogenesis@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!animal-behavior@mander.xyz](/c/animal-behavior@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!anthropology@mander.xyz](/c/anthropology@mander.xyz)\n
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      - [!biology@mander.xyz](/c/biology@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!biophysics@mander.xyz](/c/biophysics@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!botany@mander.xyz](/c/botany@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!ecology@mander.xyz](/c/ecology@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!entomology@mander.xyz](/c/entomology@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!fermentation@mander.xyz](/c/fermentation@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!herpetology@mander.xyz](/c/herpetology@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!houseplants@mander.xyz](/c/houseplants@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!medicine@mander.xyz](/c/medicine@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!microscopy@mander.xyz](/c/microscopy@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!mycology@mander.xyz](/c/mycology@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!nudibranchs@mander.xyz](/c/nudibranchs@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!nutrition@mander.xyz](/c/nutrition@mander.xyz)\n
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      - [!photosynthesis@mander.xyz](/c/photosynthesis@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!plantid@mander.xyz](/c/plantid@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!plants@mander.xyz](/c/plants@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!reptiles and amphibians@mander.xyz](/c/herpetology@mander.xyz)\n
      \n
      ### Physical Sciences\n
      \n
      - [!astronomy@mander.xyz](/c/astronomy@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!chemistry@mander.xyz](/c/chemistry@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!earthscience@mander.xyz](/c/earthscience@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!geography@mander.xyz](/c/geography@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!geospatial@mander.xyz](/c/geospatial@mander.xyz)\n
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      - [!physics@mander.xyz](/c/physics@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!quantum-computing@mander.xyz](/c/qubits@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!spectroscopy@mander.xyz](/c/spectroscopy@mander.xyz)\n
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      - [!archaeology@mander.xyz](/c/archaeology@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!folklore@mander.xyz](/c/folklore@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!history@mander.xyz](/c/history@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!old_maps@mander.xyz](/c/old_maps@mander.xyz)\n
      \n
      ### Practical and Applied Sciences\n
      \n
      - [!exercise-and sports-science@mander.xyz](/c/sports_science@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!gardening@mander.xyz](/c/gardening@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!self sufficiency@mander.xyz](/c/self-sufficiency@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!soilscience@slrpnk.net](/c/soilscience@slrpnk.net)\n
      - [!terrariums@mander.xyz](/c/terrariums@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!timelapse@mander.xyz](/c/timelapse@mander.xyz)\n
      \n
      ### Memes\n
      \n
      - [!bushrat_confidential@slrpnk.net](/c/bushrat_confidential@slrpnk.net)\n
      - [!science_memes@mander.xyz](/c/science_memes@mander.xyz)\n
      \n
      ### Miscellaneous\n
      \n
      - [!answered@mander.xyz](/c/answered@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!mander@mander.xyz](/c/mander@mander.xyz)
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    To confirm, you are asserting that the foundation for your answer (mathematical reasoning) does not require any mathematics to understand why it is true.\n
    \n
    It’s very dangerous to take a reductionist approach and not be aware of the baked in assumptions you are using. For example, the terms even and odd (for this problem) are well defined as concepts for integers. Which means that your hand-wave statement is true as a result of definitions that were likely created to ensure this property held true.\n
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      Welcome to c/science_memes @ Mander.xyz!\n
      =========================================\n
      \n
      > A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.\n
      \n
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      ---\n
      \n
      **Rules**\n
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      3. No spam.\n
      4. Infographics welcome, get schooled.\n
      \n
      ---\n
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      ---\n
      \n
      Research Committee\n
      ------------------\n
      \n
      - [!spiders@lemmy.world](/c/spiders@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      Other Mander Communities\n
      ------------------------\n
      \n
      ### Science and Research\n
      \n
      - [!academia@mander.xyz](/c/academia@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!science@mander.xyz](/c/science@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!scicomm@mander.xyz](/c/scicomm@mander.xyz)\n
      \n
      ### Biology and Life Sciences\n
      \n
      - [!abiogenesis@mander.xyz](/c/abiogenesis@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!animal-behavior@mander.xyz](/c/animal-behavior@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!anthropology@mander.xyz](/c/anthropology@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!arachnology@mander.xyz](/c/arachnology@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!balconygardening@slrpnk.net](/c/balconygardening@slrpnk.net)\n
      - [!biodiversity@mander.xyz](/c/biodiversity@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!biology@mander.xyz](/c/biology@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!biophysics@mander.xyz](/c/biophysics@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!botany@mander.xyz](/c/botany@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!ecology@mander.xyz](/c/ecology@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!entomology@mander.xyz](/c/entomology@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!fermentation@mander.xyz](/c/fermentation@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!herpetology@mander.xyz](/c/herpetology@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!houseplants@mander.xyz](/c/houseplants@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!medicine@mander.xyz](/c/medicine@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!microscopy@mander.xyz](/c/microscopy@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!mycology@mander.xyz](/c/mycology@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!nudibranchs@mander.xyz](/c/nudibranchs@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!nutrition@mander.xyz](/c/nutrition@mander.xyz)\n
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      - [!photosynthesis@mander.xyz](/c/photosynthesis@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!plantid@mander.xyz](/c/plantid@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!plants@mander.xyz](/c/plants@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!reptiles and amphibians@mander.xyz](/c/herpetology@mander.xyz)\n
      \n
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      - [!chemistry@mander.xyz](/c/chemistry@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!earthscience@mander.xyz](/c/earthscience@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!geography@mander.xyz](/c/geography@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!geospatial@mander.xyz](/c/geospatial@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!nuclear@mander.xyz](/c/nuclear@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!physics@mander.xyz](/c/physics@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!quantum-computing@mander.xyz](/c/qubits@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!spectroscopy@mander.xyz](/c/spectroscopy@mander.xyz)\n
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      - [!folklore@mander.xyz](/c/folklore@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!history@mander.xyz](/c/history@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!old_maps@mander.xyz](/c/old_maps@mander.xyz)\n
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      ### Practical and Applied Sciences\n
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      - [!gardening@mander.xyz](/c/gardening@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!self sufficiency@mander.xyz](/c/self-sufficiency@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!soilscience@slrpnk.net](/c/soilscience@slrpnk.net)\n
      - [!terrariums@mander.xyz](/c/terrariums@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!timelapse@mander.xyz](/c/timelapse@mander.xyz)\n
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      ### Memes\n
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      - [!science_memes@mander.xyz](/c/science_memes@mander.xyz)\n
      \n
      ### Miscellaneous\n
      \n
      - [!answered@mander.xyz](/c/answered@mander.xyz)\n
      - [!mander@mander.xyz](/c/mander@mander.xyz)
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    To confirm, you are asserting that the foundation for your answer (mathematical reasoning) does not require any mathematics to understand why it is true.\n
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    It’s very dangerous to take a reductionist approach and not be aware of the baked in assumptions you are using. For example, the terms even and odd (for this problem) are well defined as concepts for integers. Which means that your hand-wave statement is true as a result of definitions that were likely created to ensure this property held true.\n
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