GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/u/@lemmyvore@feddit.nl/active?p=4

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
0.30 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.06 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2121
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2634 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1707 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2723 …}
  +slug: "Nextcloud-zero-day-security"
  +title: "Nextcloud zero day security"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    What is everyone doing? SELinux? AppArmor? Something else?\n
    \n
    I currently leave my nextcloud exposed to the Internet. It runs in a VM behind an nginx reverse proxy on the VM itself, and then my OPNSense router runs nginx with WAF rules. I enforce 2fa and don’t allow sign-ups.\n
    \n
    My goal is protecting against ransomware and zerodays (as much as possible). I don’t do random clicking on links in emails or anything like that, but I’m not sure how people get hit with ransomware. I keep nextcloud updated (subscribed to RSS update feed) frequently and the VM updates everyday and reboots when necessary. I’m running the latest php-fpm and that just comes from repos so it gets updated too. HTTPS on the lan with certificates maintained by my router, and LE certs for the Internet side.\n
    \n
    Beside hiding this thing behind a VPN (which I’m not prepared to do currently), is there anything else I’m overlooking?
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 28
  +favouriteCount: 74
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1719128798 {#2761
    date: 2024-06-23 09:46:38.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2766 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2776 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2778 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2780 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2782 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2784 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2117
      +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2121 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1707 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        All the measures you listed amount to nothing against a zero day remote exploit. They bypass the normal authentication process.\n
        \n
        If you’re not able to use a VPN then use a IAM layer, which requires you to login through another method. You can use a dedicated app like Authelia/Authentik in front of the reverse proxy, or if you use nginx as reverse proxy you also have to option of using the vouch-proxy plugin.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 5
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1704135044 {#2114
        date: 2024-01-01 19:50:44.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2122 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2113 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2119 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2120 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2160 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2162 …}
      -id: 270711
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://feddit.nl/comment/5670517"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704135044 {#2118
        date: 2024-01-01 19:50:44.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 270711
    }
  ]
  -id: 26426
  -titleTs: "'day':3 'nextcloud':1 'secur':4 'zero':2"
  -bodyTs: "'2fa':44 'allow':48 'anyth':75,161 'apparmor':6 'behind':23,148 'besid':144 'cert':139 'certif':132 'click':69 'come':119 'current':10,158 'els':8,162 'email':73 'enforc':43 'everyday':103 'everyon':3 'expos':14 'feed':97 'fpm':115 'frequent':98 'get':85,124 'goal':53 'hide':145 'hit':86 'https':127 'internet':17,142 'keep':90 'lan':130 'latest':112 'le':138 'leav':11 'like':76 'link':71 'm':80,109,153,164 'maintain':133 'much':61 'necessari':107 'nextcloud':13,91 'nginx':25,38 'opnsens':35 'overlook':165 'peopl':84 'php':114 'php-fpm':113 'possibl':63 'prepar':155 'protect':55 'proxi':27 'random':68 'ransomwar':57,88 'reboot':105 'repo':121 'revers':26 'router':36,136 'rss':95 'rule':41 'run':19,37,110 'selinux':5 'side':143 'sign':50 'sign-up':49 'someth':7 'subscrib':93 'sure':82 'thing':147 'up':51 'updat':92,96,102,125 'vm':22,30,101 'vpn':150 'waf':40 'zeroday':59"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1704181458
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/10188042"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704095058 {#2696
    date: 2024-01-01 08:44:18.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2121
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2634 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1707 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2723 …}
  +slug: "Nextcloud-zero-day-security"
  +title: "Nextcloud zero day security"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    What is everyone doing? SELinux? AppArmor? Something else?\n
    \n
    I currently leave my nextcloud exposed to the Internet. It runs in a VM behind an nginx reverse proxy on the VM itself, and then my OPNSense router runs nginx with WAF rules. I enforce 2fa and don’t allow sign-ups.\n
    \n
    My goal is protecting against ransomware and zerodays (as much as possible). I don’t do random clicking on links in emails or anything like that, but I’m not sure how people get hit with ransomware. I keep nextcloud updated (subscribed to RSS update feed) frequently and the VM updates everyday and reboots when necessary. I’m running the latest php-fpm and that just comes from repos so it gets updated too. HTTPS on the lan with certificates maintained by my router, and LE certs for the Internet side.\n
    \n
    Beside hiding this thing behind a VPN (which I’m not prepared to do currently), is there anything else I’m overlooking?
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 28
  +favouriteCount: 74
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1719128798 {#2761
    date: 2024-06-23 09:46:38.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2766 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2776 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2778 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2780 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2782 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2784 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2117
      +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2121 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1707 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        All the measures you listed amount to nothing against a zero day remote exploit. They bypass the normal authentication process.\n
        \n
        If you’re not able to use a VPN then use a IAM layer, which requires you to login through another method. You can use a dedicated app like Authelia/Authentik in front of the reverse proxy, or if you use nginx as reverse proxy you also have to option of using the vouch-proxy plugin.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 5
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1704135044 {#2114
        date: 2024-01-01 19:50:44.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@thisisawayoflife@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2122 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2113 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2119 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2120 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2160 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2162 …}
      -id: 270711
      -bodyTs: "'abl':25 'also':66 'amount':6 'anoth':41 'app':48 'authelia/authentik':50 'authent':19 'bypass':16 'day':12 'dedic':47 'exploit':14 'front':52 'iam':33 'layer':34 'like':49 'list':5 'login':39 'measur':3 'method':42 'nginx':61 'normal':18 'noth':8 'option':69 'plugin':76 'process':20 'proxi':56,64,75 're':23 'remot':13 'requir':36 'revers':55,63 'use':27,31,45,60,71 'vouch':74 'vouch-proxi':73 'vpn':29 'zero':11"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://feddit.nl/comment/5670517"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704135044 {#2118
        date: 2024-01-01 19:50:44.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 270711
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  -id: 26426
  -titleTs: "'day':3 'nextcloud':1 'secur':4 'zero':2"
  -bodyTs: "'2fa':44 'allow':48 'anyth':75,161 'apparmor':6 'behind':23,148 'besid':144 'cert':139 'certif':132 'click':69 'come':119 'current':10,158 'els':8,162 'email':73 'enforc':43 'everyday':103 'everyon':3 'expos':14 'feed':97 'fpm':115 'frequent':98 'get':85,124 'goal':53 'hide':145 'hit':86 'https':127 'internet':17,142 'keep':90 'lan':130 'latest':112 'le':138 'leav':11 'like':76 'link':71 'm':80,109,153,164 'maintain':133 'much':61 'necessari':107 'nextcloud':13,91 'nginx':25,38 'opnsens':35 'overlook':165 'peopl':84 'php':114 'php-fpm':113 'possibl':63 'prepar':155 'protect':55 'proxi':27 'random':68 'ransomwar':57,88 'reboot':105 'repo':121 'revers':26 'router':36,136 'rss':95 'rule':41 'run':19,37,110 'selinux':5 'side':143 'sign':50 'sign-up':49 'someth':7 'subscrib':93 'sure':82 'thing':147 'up':51 'updat':92,96,102,125 'vm':22,30,101 'vpn':150 'waf':40 'zeroday':59"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1704181458
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/10188042"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704095058 {#2696
    date: 2024-01-01 08:44:18.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2121
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2634 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1707 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2723 …}
  +slug: "Nextcloud-zero-day-security"
  +title: "Nextcloud zero day security"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    What is everyone doing? SELinux? AppArmor? Something else?\n
    \n
    I currently leave my nextcloud exposed to the Internet. It runs in a VM behind an nginx reverse proxy on the VM itself, and then my OPNSense router runs nginx with WAF rules. I enforce 2fa and don’t allow sign-ups.\n
    \n
    My goal is protecting against ransomware and zerodays (as much as possible). I don’t do random clicking on links in emails or anything like that, but I’m not sure how people get hit with ransomware. I keep nextcloud updated (subscribed to RSS update feed) frequently and the VM updates everyday and reboots when necessary. I’m running the latest php-fpm and that just comes from repos so it gets updated too. HTTPS on the lan with certificates maintained by my router, and LE certs for the Internet side.\n
    \n
    Beside hiding this thing behind a VPN (which I’m not prepared to do currently), is there anything else I’m overlooking?
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 28
  +favouriteCount: 74
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1719128798 {#2761
    date: 2024-06-23 09:46:38.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2766 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2776 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2778 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2780 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2782 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2784 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2117
      +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2121 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1707 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        All the measures you listed amount to nothing against a zero day remote exploit. They bypass the normal authentication process.\n
        \n
        If you’re not able to use a VPN then use a IAM layer, which requires you to login through another method. You can use a dedicated app like Authelia/Authentik in front of the reverse proxy, or if you use nginx as reverse proxy you also have to option of using the vouch-proxy plugin.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 5
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1704135044 {#2114
        date: 2024-01-01 19:50:44.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
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      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2122 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2113 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2119 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2120 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2160 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2162 …}
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      +apId: "https://feddit.nl/comment/5670517"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704135044 {#2118
        date: 2024-01-01 19:50:44.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 270711
    }
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  -titleTs: "'day':3 'nextcloud':1 'secur':4 'zero':2"
  -bodyTs: "'2fa':44 'allow':48 'anyth':75,161 'apparmor':6 'behind':23,148 'besid':144 'cert':139 'certif':132 'click':69 'come':119 'current':10,158 'els':8,162 'email':73 'enforc':43 'everyday':103 'everyon':3 'expos':14 'feed':97 'fpm':115 'frequent':98 'get':85,124 'goal':53 'hide':145 'hit':86 'https':127 'internet':17,142 'keep':90 'lan':130 'latest':112 'le':138 'leav':11 'like':76 'link':71 'm':80,109,153,164 'maintain':133 'much':61 'necessari':107 'nextcloud':13,91 'nginx':25,38 'opnsens':35 'overlook':165 'peopl':84 'php':114 'php-fpm':113 'possibl':63 'prepar':155 'protect':55 'proxi':27 'random':68 'ransomwar':57,88 'reboot':105 'repo':121 'revers':26 'router':36,136 'rss':95 'rule':41 'run':19,37,110 'selinux':5 'side':143 'sign':50 'sign-up':49 'someth':7 'subscrib':93 'sure':82 'thing':147 'up':51 'updat':92,96,102,125 'vm':22,30,101 'vpn':150 'waf':40 'zeroday':59"
  +cross: false
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  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1704181458
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/10188042"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704095058 {#2696
    date: 2024-01-01 08:44:18.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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      My goal is protecting against ransomware and zerodays (as much as possible). I don’t do random clicking on links in emails or anything like that, but I’m not sure how people get hit with ransomware. I keep nextcloud updated (subscribed to RSS update feed) frequently and the VM updates everyday and reboots when necessary. I’m running the latest php-fpm and that just comes from repos so it gets updated too. HTTPS on the lan with certificates maintained by my router, and LE certs for the Internet side.\n
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      Beside hiding this thing behind a VPN (which I’m not prepared to do currently), is there anything else I’m overlooking?
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    All the measures you listed amount to nothing against a zero day remote exploit. They bypass the normal authentication process.\n
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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7 DENIED edit
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      What is everyone doing? SELinux? AppArmor? Something else?\n
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      \n
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      \n
      Beside hiding this thing behind a VPN (which I’m not prepared to do currently), is there anything else I’m overlooking?
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    All the measures you listed amount to nothing against a zero day remote exploit. They bypass the normal authentication process.\n
    \n
    If you’re not able to use a VPN then use a IAM layer, which requires you to login through another method. You can use a dedicated app like Authelia/Authentik in front of the reverse proxy, or if you use nginx as reverse proxy you also have to option of using the vouch-proxy plugin.
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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8 DENIED moderate
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      What is everyone doing? SELinux? AppArmor? Something else?\n
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      \n
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      \n
      Beside hiding this thing behind a VPN (which I’m not prepared to do currently), is there anything else I’m overlooking?
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    All the measures you listed amount to nothing against a zero day remote exploit. They bypass the normal authentication process.\n
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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9 DENIED ROLE_USER
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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10 DENIED moderate
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      It gets worse - because ISPs are choosing NATs over IPv6, so even if you install a custom firmware on your router without it getting blacklisted by your ISP, you still can’t expose your server to the internet because the NAT refuses to forward traffic your way. They even devise special NAT schemes like symmetric NAT to thwart hole punching.\n
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      Basically this all means that I *have* to purchase my web hosting separately. Or relay all the traffic through an unnecessary third party, introducing a point of failure.\n
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      It’s frustrating.\n
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      I like to control my stuff. I don’t like to depend on other people or be in a position where I have to trust someone not to fuck with my shit. Like, if the only thing outside my apartment that mattered to my website was a DNS record, I’d be really happy with that.\n
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      Edit: TIL ISPs in the US don’t have NATs\n
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      Edit 2: OMG so much advice. My knowledge about computers is SO clearly outdated, I have a lot of things to read up on.\n
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      Edit 3: There’s definitely a CGNAT involved since the WAN ip in the router config is not the same as the one I get when I use a website that echos my IP address. Far as I can tell my devices don’t get unique IPv6 addresses either. (funnily enough, if I check my IP address on my phone using roaming data, there’s no IPv6 address at all). It’s a router/modem combo, at least I think since there’s only one device in my apartment (maybe there’s a modem managing the whole complex or something?). And it doesn’t have a bridge mode, except for OTT. Might try plugging my own router into it, but it feels like a waste of time and money from what I’m seeing. Probably best to just host services over a VPN or smth.\n
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      Edit 4: Devices do get unique IPv6 addresses, but it’s moot since I can’t do anything but ping them. I guess it wouldn’t be port forwarding but something else that I would have to do that my router doesn’t support
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    Are you trying to offer a port for peer sharing (XDCC/BT)? I’ve never tried using it like this but I think [Tailscale Funnel](https://tailscale.com/blog/reintroducing-serve-funnel) could work.\n
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    It’s a sort of reverse VPN, I guess you could call it. Tailscale maintains the public IP and when someone connects to your advertised port they tunnel it to you through (encrypted) WireGuard. It passes through NAT because connections are outgoing to their servers.\n
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        There is an alternate verification method using an API key to your DNS provider, if it’s a supported one. That method doesn’t need any IP to be assigned (doesn’t care if there are A/AAAA records or where they point because it can verify the domain directly).\n
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        deSEC.io is a good example of a good, reputable and free DNS provider that additionally allows you to manage API keys. The catch is that they require you to enable DNSSEC (their mission is similar to Let’s Encrypt, but for DNS).
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        I see that you want to use the cert for intranet apps btw.\n
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        There is an alternate verification method using an API key to your DNS provider, if it’s a supported one. That method doesn’t need any IP to be assigned (doesn’t care if there are A/AAAA records or where they point because it can verify the domain directly).\n
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        They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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        Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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        Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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        They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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        If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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        Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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    Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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    They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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    They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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    Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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    Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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    Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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    Or you can use the CF Tunnel equivalent from Tailscale, called Funnel.\n
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    [tailscale.com/blog/reintroducing-serve-funnel](https://tailscale.com/blog/reintroducing-serve-funnel)
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    Or you can use the CF Tunnel equivalent from Tailscale, called Funnel.\n
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    [tailscale.com/blog/reintroducing-serve-funnel](https://tailscale.com/blog/reintroducing-serve-funnel)
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    Started to move off Google’s services to proton:\n
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        As opposed to an email address that can be traced back to you?\n
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        And who and why are we talking about anyway? Who’s tracking you if you have a domain?
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        Proton is in the process of removing their PC bridge in favor of a custom app. After they’re done you won’t be able to migrate your email away from their service anymore.\n
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        Which is ironic, when people are trying to flee from Google. Out of the fire and into the frying pan…
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        Proton has been gradually closing down access to proprietary apps only. After they’re done you won’t be able to take your email anywhere else.\n
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        If you have your own domain you’ll be able to host it elsewhere but you would leave behind email, calendar, aliases etc. and restarting from scratch.\n
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        At that point “encrypted” starts smelling more like “hostage”. It’s generally a bad idea to be tied down to a specific email provider.\n
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        If you’re giving those companies personal info (name, phone, address, CC) they can track you regardless of what emails you use with each of them.\n
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        As opposed to an email address that can be traced back to you?\n
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        Proton is in the process of removing their PC bridge in favor of a custom app. After they’re done you won’t be able to migrate your email away from their service anymore.\n
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        Proton has been gradually closing down access to proprietary apps only. After they’re done you won’t be able to take your email anywhere else.\n
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        If you’re giving those companies personal info (name, phone, address, CC) they can track you regardless of what emails you use with each of them.\n
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        I don’t self host my email either. I got my registrar, DNS and email separate from each other so if any of them goes bad I can switch with minimum fuss.\n
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          Proton is in the process of removing their PC bridge in favor of a custom app. After they’re done you won’t be able to migrate your email away from their service anymore.\n
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          Proton has been gradually closing down access to proprietary apps only. After they’re done you won’t be able to take your email anywhere else.\n
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          If you’re giving those companies personal info (name, phone, address, CC) they can track you regardless of what emails you use with each of them.\n
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    As opposed to an email address that can be traced back to you?\n
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      Started to move off Google’s services to proton:\n
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          Proton is in the process of removing their PC bridge in favor of a custom app. After they’re done you won’t be able to migrate your email away from their service anymore.\n
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          Proton has been gradually closing down access to proprietary apps only. After they’re done you won’t be able to take your email anywhere else.\n
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          If you’re giving those companies personal info (name, phone, address, CC) they can track you regardless of what emails you use with each of them.\n
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          I don’t self host my email either. I got my registrar, DNS and email separate from each other so if any of them goes bad I can switch with minimum fuss.\n
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          \n
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    As opposed to an email address that can be traced back to you?\n
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      Started to move off Google’s services to proton:\n
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          As opposed to an email address that can be traced back to you?\n
          \n
          And who and why are we talking about anyway? Who’s tracking you if you have a domain?
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          Proton has been gradually closing down access to proprietary apps only. After they’re done you won’t be able to take your email anywhere else.\n
          \n
          If you have your own domain you’ll be able to host it elsewhere but you would leave behind email, calendar, aliases etc. and restarting from scratch.\n
          \n
          At that point “encrypted” starts smelling more like “hostage”. It’s generally a bad idea to be tied down to a specific email provider.\n
          \n
          You could wake up tomorrow to find out Proton has been acquired and the new owners can charge anything yet want for continued service.
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          If you’re giving those companies personal info (name, phone, address, CC) they can track you regardless of what emails you use with each of them.\n
          \n
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        +body: "They’ve announced they’re trialing the custom app currently, after which they’ll discontinue the IMAP/SMTP bridge."
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          I don’t self host my email either. I got my registrar, DNS and email separate from each other so if any of them goes bad I can switch with minimum fuss.\n
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    Proton is in the process of removing their PC bridge in favor of a custom app. After they’re done you won’t be able to migrate your email away from their service anymore.\n
    \n
    Which is ironic, when people are trying to flee from Google. Out of the fire and into the frying pan…
    """
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      Started to move off Google’s services to proton:\n
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      ![](https://no.lastname.nz/pictrs/image/49a70c76-1dfa-42c2-80a3-fe807070d46f.png)
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          As opposed to an email address that can be traced back to you?\n
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          And who and why are we talking about anyway? Who’s tracking you if you have a domain?
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          Proton has been gradually closing down access to proprietary apps only. After they’re done you won’t be able to take your email anywhere else.\n
          \n
          If you have your own domain you’ll be able to host it elsewhere but you would leave behind email, calendar, aliases etc. and restarting from scratch.\n
          \n
          At that point “encrypted” starts smelling more like “hostage”. It’s generally a bad idea to be tied down to a specific email provider.\n
          \n
          You could wake up tomorrow to find out Proton has been acquired and the new owners can charge anything yet want for continued service.
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          If you’re giving those companies personal info (name, phone, address, CC) they can track you regardless of what emails you use with each of them.\n
          \n
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          I don’t self host my email either. I got my registrar, DNS and email separate from each other so if any of them goes bad I can switch with minimum fuss.\n
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    Proton is in the process of removing their PC bridge in favor of a custom app. After they’re done you won’t be able to migrate your email away from their service anymore.\n
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      Started to move off Google’s services to proton:\n
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          As opposed to an email address that can be traced back to you?\n
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          Proton has been gradually closing down access to proprietary apps only. After they’re done you won’t be able to take your email anywhere else.\n
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          If you’re giving those companies personal info (name, phone, address, CC) they can track you regardless of what emails you use with each of them.\n
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          I don’t self host my email either. I got my registrar, DNS and email separate from each other so if any of them goes bad I can switch with minimum fuss.\n
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          Proton is in the process of removing their PC bridge in favor of a custom app. After they’re done you won’t be able to migrate your email away from their service anymore.\n
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          Which is ironic, when people are trying to flee from Google. Out of the fire and into the frying pan…
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          If you’re giving those companies personal info (name, phone, address, CC) they can track you regardless of what emails you use with each of them.\n
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        +body: "They’ve announced they’re trialing the custom app currently, after which they’ll discontinue the IMAP/SMTP bridge."
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          I don’t self host my email either. I got my registrar, DNS and email separate from each other so if any of them goes bad I can switch with minimum fuss.\n
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    Proton has been gradually closing down access to proprietary apps only. After they’re done you won’t be able to take your email anywhere else.\n
    \n
    If you have your own domain you’ll be able to host it elsewhere but you would leave behind email, calendar, aliases etc. and restarting from scratch.\n
    \n
    At that point “encrypted” starts smelling more like “hostage”. It’s generally a bad idea to be tied down to a specific email provider.\n
    \n
    You could wake up tomorrow to find out Proton has been acquired and the new owners can charge anything yet want for continued service.
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      Started to move off Google’s services to proton:\n
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          As opposed to an email address that can be traced back to you?\n
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          And who and why are we talking about anyway? Who’s tracking you if you have a domain?
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          Proton is in the process of removing their PC bridge in favor of a custom app. After they’re done you won’t be able to migrate your email away from their service anymore.\n
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          Which is ironic, when people are trying to flee from Google. Out of the fire and into the frying pan…
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          If you’re giving those companies personal info (name, phone, address, CC) they can track you regardless of what emails you use with each of them.\n
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    Proton has been gradually closing down access to proprietary apps only. After they’re done you won’t be able to take your email anywhere else.\n
    \n
    If you have your own domain you’ll be able to host it elsewhere but you would leave behind email, calendar, aliases etc. and restarting from scratch.\n
    \n
    At that point “encrypted” starts smelling more like “hostage”. It’s generally a bad idea to be tied down to a specific email provider.\n
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      Started to move off Google’s services to proton:\n
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          As opposed to an email address that can be traced back to you?\n
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          Proton is in the process of removing their PC bridge in favor of a custom app. After they’re done you won’t be able to migrate your email away from their service anymore.\n
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          Proton has been gradually closing down access to proprietary apps only. After they’re done you won’t be able to take your email anywhere else.\n
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          If you have your own domain you’ll be able to host it elsewhere but you would leave behind email, calendar, aliases etc. and restarting from scratch.\n
          \n
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          I don’t self host my email either. I got my registrar, DNS and email separate from each other so if any of them goes bad I can switch with minimum fuss.\n
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    If you’re giving those companies personal info (name, phone, address, CC) they can track you regardless of what emails you use with each of them.\n
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          Proton is in the process of removing their PC bridge in favor of a custom app. After they’re done you won’t be able to migrate your email away from their service anymore.\n
          \n
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          Proton has been gradually closing down access to proprietary apps only. After they’re done you won’t be able to take your email anywhere else.\n
          \n
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          \n
          At that point “encrypted” starts smelling more like “hostage”. It’s generally a bad idea to be tied down to a specific email provider.\n
          \n
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        +body: "They’ve announced they’re trialing the custom app currently, after which they’ll discontinue the IMAP/SMTP bridge."
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          I don’t self host my email either. I got my registrar, DNS and email separate from each other so if any of them goes bad I can switch with minimum fuss.\n
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    If you’re giving those companies personal info (name, phone, address, CC) they can track you regardless of what emails you use with each of them.\n
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      Started to move off Google’s services to proton:\n
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          As opposed to an email address that can be traced back to you?\n
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          Proton is in the process of removing their PC bridge in favor of a custom app. After they’re done you won’t be able to migrate your email away from their service anymore.\n
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          Proton has been gradually closing down access to proprietary apps only. After they’re done you won’t be able to take your email anywhere else.\n
          \n
          If you have your own domain you’ll be able to host it elsewhere but you would leave behind email, calendar, aliases etc. and restarting from scratch.\n
          \n
          At that point “encrypted” starts smelling more like “hostage”. It’s generally a bad idea to be tied down to a specific email provider.\n
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          If you’re giving those companies personal info (name, phone, address, CC) they can track you regardless of what emails you use with each of them.\n
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      Started to move off Google’s services to proton:\n
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          As opposed to an email address that can be traced back to you?\n
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          Proton is in the process of removing their PC bridge in favor of a custom app. After they’re done you won’t be able to migrate your email away from their service anymore.\n
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          Proton has been gradually closing down access to proprietary apps only. After they’re done you won’t be able to take your email anywhere else.\n
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          If you have your own domain you’ll be able to host it elsewhere but you would leave behind email, calendar, aliases etc. and restarting from scratch.\n
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          If you’re giving those companies personal info (name, phone, address, CC) they can track you regardless of what emails you use with each of them.\n
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          Proton is in the process of removing their PC bridge in favor of a custom app. After they’re done you won’t be able to migrate your email away from their service anymore.\n
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          Proton is in the process of removing their PC bridge in favor of a custom app. After they’re done you won’t be able to migrate your email away from their service anymore.\n
          \n
          Which is ironic, when people are trying to flee from Google. Out of the fire and into the frying pan…
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          Proton has been gradually closing down access to proprietary apps only. After they’re done you won’t be able to take your email anywhere else.\n
          \n
          If you have your own domain you’ll be able to host it elsewhere but you would leave behind email, calendar, aliases etc. and restarting from scratch.\n
          \n
          At that point “encrypted” starts smelling more like “hostage”. It’s generally a bad idea to be tied down to a specific email provider.\n
          \n
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          If you’re giving those companies personal info (name, phone, address, CC) they can track you regardless of what emails you use with each of them.\n
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    I don’t self host my email either. I got my registrar, DNS and email separate from each other so if any of them goes bad I can switch with minimum fuss.\n
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    But that makes it all the more important to be able to download all your mail from your provider.\n
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    Proton currently has two proprietary things you can use to download, a “bridge” PC app that pretends to speak IMAP, and a download tool. The bridge will be discontinued after they launch their propeietary PC mail app so that leaves just the proprietary download tool, which only does .eml. format.
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      Started to move off Google’s services to proton:\n
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          As opposed to an email address that can be traced back to you?\n
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          And who and why are we talking about anyway? Who’s tracking you if you have a domain?
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          Proton is in the process of removing their PC bridge in favor of a custom app. After they’re done you won’t be able to migrate your email away from their service anymore.\n
          \n
          Which is ironic, when people are trying to flee from Google. Out of the fire and into the frying pan…
          """
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          Proton has been gradually closing down access to proprietary apps only. After they’re done you won’t be able to take your email anywhere else.\n
          \n
          If you have your own domain you’ll be able to host it elsewhere but you would leave behind email, calendar, aliases etc. and restarting from scratch.\n
          \n
          At that point “encrypted” starts smelling more like “hostage”. It’s generally a bad idea to be tied down to a specific email provider.\n
          \n
          You could wake up tomorrow to find out Proton has been acquired and the new owners can charge anything yet want for continued service.
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          If you’re giving those companies personal info (name, phone, address, CC) they can track you regardless of what emails you use with each of them.\n
          \n
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    I don’t self host my email either. I got my registrar, DNS and email separate from each other so if any of them goes bad I can switch with minimum fuss.\n
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    But that makes it all the more important to be able to download all your mail from your provider.\n
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      Started to move off Google’s services to proton:\n
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          As opposed to an email address that can be traced back to you?\n
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          Proton is in the process of removing their PC bridge in favor of a custom app. After they’re done you won’t be able to migrate your email away from their service anymore.\n
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          Proton has been gradually closing down access to proprietary apps only. After they’re done you won’t be able to take your email anywhere else.\n
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          If you have your own domain you’ll be able to host it elsewhere but you would leave behind email, calendar, aliases etc. and restarting from scratch.\n
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          If you’re giving those companies personal info (name, phone, address, CC) they can track you regardless of what emails you use with each of them.\n
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    I don’t self host my email either. I got my registrar, DNS and email separate from each other so if any of them goes bad I can switch with minimum fuss.\n
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