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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
2.76 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.18 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1502
  +user: App\Entity\User {#1660 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1848 …}
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    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#288 …}
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      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
      \n
      Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
      \n
      ### Rules\n
      \n
      - Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.\n
      - No misinformation\n
      - No NSFW content\n
      - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
      \n
      ### Related Communities\n
      \n
      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
      """
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    +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
    +apPreferredUsername: "linux"
    +apDiscoverable: true
    +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: null
    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
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    +apDeletedAt: null
    +apTimeoutAt: null
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      date: 2023-11-02 13:51:08.0 +01:00
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  +root: null
  +body: "In system settings under 'keyboard" there should be an “advanced” tab or something similar with a lot of these kind of settings, don’t remember if this specifically is present or not. In case yours is not there you can change the mapping of the keys in a root configuration file that I don’t remember, if you need tell me and it I’ll go looking for it"
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  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 3
  +score: 0
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    date: 2023-11-15 00:55:18.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee"
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  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2429 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2424 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2477 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2355 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1369 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1636 …}
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  +editedAt: null
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1502
  +user: App\Entity\User {#1660 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1848 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#307
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#288 …}
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    +title: "linux"
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      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
      \n
      Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
      \n
      ### Rules\n
      \n
      - Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.\n
      - No misinformation\n
      - No NSFW content\n
      - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
      \n
      ### Related Communities\n
      \n
      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
      """
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    +entryCommentCount: 28632
    +postCount: 6
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    +customCss: null
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      date: 2024-10-22 09:52:22.0 +02:00
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    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#145 …}
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    +apDiscoverable: true
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    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1729583596 {#316
      date: 2024-10-22 09:53:16.0 +02:00
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    +apTimeoutAt: null
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1698929468 {#310
      date: 2023-11-02 13:51:08.0 +01:00
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  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "In system settings under 'keyboard" there should be an “advanced” tab or something similar with a lot of these kind of settings, don’t remember if this specifically is present or not. In case yours is not there you can change the mapping of the keys in a root configuration file that I don’t remember, if you need tell me and it I’ll go looking for it"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 3
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1700006118 {#1838
    date: 2023-11-15 00:55:18.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2429 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2424 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2477 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2355 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1369 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1636 …}
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  +editedAt: null
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    date: 2023-11-15 00:55:18.0 +01:00
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1502
  +user: App\Entity\User {#1660 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1848 …}
  +magazine: App\Entity\Magazine {#307
    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#288 …}
    +name: "linux@lemmy.ml"
    +title: "linux"
    +description: """
      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia\n
      \n
      Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n
      \n
      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
      \n
      ### Rules\n
      \n
      - Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. GNU/Linux or otherwise.\n
      - No misinformation\n
      - No NSFW content\n
      - No hate speech, bigotry, etc\n
      \n
      ### Related Communities\n
      \n
      - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
      - [!libre_culture@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
      - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
      \n
      Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
      """
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    +entryCommentCount: 28632
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    date: 2023-11-15 00:55:18.0 +01:00
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1714
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    +name: "linux@lemmy.ml"
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    Ohh, that’s cool. How far do you want to go with this? I had the idea of using a custom wayland protocol to make per-app global menus instead of per-window so you can have an app open without any windows, like on macOS, in the compositor I wanted to write. However writing a compositor using wlroots is still incredibly difficult if you have no prior experience so the whole thing didn’t get very far yet. If that’s something you want to do too, I’d be very interested in this.\n
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        Lets see if I got this right, you (the OP), the creator of Louvre, managed to create an example compositor that looks like a better desktop experience than the entire KDE and GNOME teams could ever develop with their infinite wisdom and funding? Fucking amazing. :)\n
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    Ohh, that’s cool. How far do you want to go with this? I had the idea of using a custom wayland protocol to make per-app global menus instead of per-window so you can have an app open without any windows, like on macOS, in the compositor I wanted to write. However writing a compositor using wlroots is still incredibly difficult if you have no prior experience so the whole thing didn’t get very far yet. If that’s something you want to do too, I’d be very interested in this.\n
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        Lets see if I got this right, you (the OP), the creator of Louvre, managed to create an example compositor that looks like a better desktop experience than the entire KDE and GNOME teams could ever develop with their infinite wisdom and funding? Fucking amazing. :)\n
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        I know this is an example, but seriously following the “copy apple down to the last pixel” approach you should consider creating a DE for Linux that doesn’t have themes or any user tweaks, just a simple and pixel-perfect copy of macOS. The problem with GNOME and KDE is that they both fail in simple design principals such as proportions, item spacing and whatnot while Apple, and you by extension, excels in that aspect.\n
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        Furthermore my personal opinion is that GNOME tries to reinvent everything and ends up fucking things up and creating situations like the lack of desktop icons going into the activities view by default etc. KDE however does some other stuff right but they fail really badly in terms of proportions and item spacing. Their taskbar is also a shame, for a group that says they want to copy Windows’ style they aren’t doing that well.\n
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        Desktop experiences when it comes to design peaked with macOS Monterey (after that Apple did changes to the settings that are still not polished) and in terms of usability they peaked with the release of Exposé, Spaces and later their integration on Mission Control (initially bad but now they seem better).\n
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        If you do create a 1:1 copy of macOS desktop experience (and keep it updates) as a new DE you’ll most likely become very popular in no time. It doesn’t need themes, customization and all the personalization that would make it really hard to create, just a simply pixel perfect copy of macOS.
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    Ohh, that’s cool. How far do you want to go with this? I had the idea of using a custom wayland protocol to make per-app global menus instead of per-window so you can have an app open without any windows, like on macOS, in the compositor I wanted to write. However writing a compositor using wlroots is still incredibly difficult if you have no prior experience so the whole thing didn’t get very far yet. If that’s something you want to do too, I’d be very interested in this.\n
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          Lets see if I got this right, you (the OP), the creator of Louvre, managed to create an example compositor that looks like a better desktop experience than the entire KDE and GNOME teams could ever develop with their infinite wisdom and funding? Fucking amazing. :)\n
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          If you do create a 1:1 copy of macOS desktop experience (and keep it updates) as a new DE you’ll most likely become very popular in no time. It doesn’t need themes, customization and all the personalization that would make it really hard to create, just a simply pixel perfect copy of macOS.
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      Ohh, that’s cool. How far do you want to go with this? I had the idea of using a custom wayland protocol to make per-app global menus instead of per-window so you can have an app open without any windows, like on macOS, in the compositor I wanted to write. However writing a compositor using wlroots is still incredibly difficult if you have no prior experience so the whole thing didn’t get very far yet. If that’s something you want to do too, I’d be very interested in this.\n
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    I actually already created a library for that called Heaven ([github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven](https://github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven)), but I want to rewrite it to make it simpler and add backends for different IPC mechanisms (Unix domain sockets and D-Bus).\n
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    It allows apps to create as many menu bars as they want. The idea is that when one of its toplevel windows is activated, it can notify the “topbar app” to display a specific menu bar. The compositor also informs the “topbar app” about the currently active client. So, it has three APIs: one for apps, another for the “topbar app,” and another for the compositor. Apps are identified by their PID.\n
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    Now, with respect to the second question, a long time ago, I tried to create a compositor using QtWayland, which had the most documentation at that time. However, it had some problems with certain interfaces that made the compositor crash. So, I then looked for wlroots but could find no documentation whatsoever, so I decided to start from scratch. As time passed, I began to learn and understand how protocols work, realizing that one of the most challenging things was implementing protocols correctly, as there are too many interfaces that depend on each other, and you need to implement them all before you can see results and validate that it works. That’s why I decided to create this lib, even as my university thesis, with the focus of offering a default and basic implementation of each protocol so that developers can see a functional compositor from the start and then gradually and specifically override whatever they need, being able to validate each feature they add immediately. Of course, there are many other complicated things I had to learn, such as the DRM/KMS API, buffer sharing through DMA, among other stuff. I really appreciate wlroots, though. I learned a lot by analyzing its source code, and surely today I would be able to create a compositor with it, hahaha.
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          Lets see if I got this right, you (the OP), the creator of Louvre, managed to create an example compositor that looks like a better desktop experience than the entire KDE and GNOME teams could ever develop with their infinite wisdom and funding? Fucking amazing. :)\n
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          I know this is an example, but seriously following the “copy apple down to the last pixel” approach you should consider creating a DE for Linux that doesn’t have themes or any user tweaks, just a simple and pixel-perfect copy of macOS. The problem with GNOME and KDE is that they both fail in simple design principals such as proportions, item spacing and whatnot while Apple, and you by extension, excels in that aspect.\n
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          Furthermore my personal opinion is that GNOME tries to reinvent everything and ends up fucking things up and creating situations like the lack of desktop icons going into the activities view by default etc. KDE however does some other stuff right but they fail really badly in terms of proportions and item spacing. Their taskbar is also a shame, for a group that says they want to copy Windows’ style they aren’t doing that well.\n
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          Desktop experiences when it comes to design peaked with macOS Monterey (after that Apple did changes to the settings that are still not polished) and in terms of usability they peaked with the release of Exposé, Spaces and later their integration on Mission Control (initially bad but now they seem better).\n
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          If you do create a 1:1 copy of macOS desktop experience (and keep it updates) as a new DE you’ll most likely become very popular in no time. It doesn’t need themes, customization and all the personalization that would make it really hard to create, just a simply pixel perfect copy of macOS.
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      +body: "Thanks! While I may have nailed server-side decorations in that example, as you know, there is too much other stuff to take into account to make a DE actually functional. So, I respect a lot what KDE and GNOME do and the innovations they make. I actually want to create a macOS clone, hahaha. That is one of the reasons I started this project. I will soon continue working on a library for exposing global menus in Wayland/X11. Qt allows defining a custom platform plugin, enabling us to plug external systems for managing global menus. Sadly, I think GTK4 no longer supports that, so I believe an approach would be to display a standard menu with basic functions for apps that don’t support it."
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      Ohh, that’s cool. How far do you want to go with this? I had the idea of using a custom wayland protocol to make per-app global menus instead of per-window so you can have an app open without any windows, like on macOS, in the compositor I wanted to write. However writing a compositor using wlroots is still incredibly difficult if you have no prior experience so the whole thing didn’t get very far yet. If that’s something you want to do too, I’d be very interested in this.\n
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      (Speaking of, why did you decide not to build this on top of wlroots?)
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    I actually already created a library for that called Heaven ([github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven](https://github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven)), but I want to rewrite it to make it simpler and add backends for different IPC mechanisms (Unix domain sockets and D-Bus).\n
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    It allows apps to create as many menu bars as they want. The idea is that when one of its toplevel windows is activated, it can notify the “topbar app” to display a specific menu bar. The compositor also informs the “topbar app” about the currently active client. So, it has three APIs: one for apps, another for the “topbar app,” and another for the compositor. Apps are identified by their PID.\n
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    Now, with respect to the second question, a long time ago, I tried to create a compositor using QtWayland, which had the most documentation at that time. However, it had some problems with certain interfaces that made the compositor crash. So, I then looked for wlroots but could find no documentation whatsoever, so I decided to start from scratch. As time passed, I began to learn and understand how protocols work, realizing that one of the most challenging things was implementing protocols correctly, as there are too many interfaces that depend on each other, and you need to implement them all before you can see results and validate that it works. That’s why I decided to create this lib, even as my university thesis, with the focus of offering a default and basic implementation of each protocol so that developers can see a functional compositor from the start and then gradually and specifically override whatever they need, being able to validate each feature they add immediately. Of course, there are many other complicated things I had to learn, such as the DRM/KMS API, buffer sharing through DMA, among other stuff. I really appreciate wlroots, though. I learned a lot by analyzing its source code, and surely today I would be able to create a compositor with it, hahaha.
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          Lets see if I got this right, you (the OP), the creator of Louvre, managed to create an example compositor that looks like a better desktop experience than the entire KDE and GNOME teams could ever develop with their infinite wisdom and funding? Fucking amazing. :)\n
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          I know this is an example, but seriously following the “copy apple down to the last pixel” approach you should consider creating a DE for Linux that doesn’t have themes or any user tweaks, just a simple and pixel-perfect copy of macOS. The problem with GNOME and KDE is that they both fail in simple design principals such as proportions, item spacing and whatnot while Apple, and you by extension, excels in that aspect.\n
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          Desktop experiences when it comes to design peaked with macOS Monterey (after that Apple did changes to the settings that are still not polished) and in terms of usability they peaked with the release of Exposé, Spaces and later their integration on Mission Control (initially bad but now they seem better).\n
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          If you do create a 1:1 copy of macOS desktop experience (and keep it updates) as a new DE you’ll most likely become very popular in no time. It doesn’t need themes, customization and all the personalization that would make it really hard to create, just a simply pixel perfect copy of macOS.
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      Ohh, that’s cool. How far do you want to go with this? I had the idea of using a custom wayland protocol to make per-app global menus instead of per-window so you can have an app open without any windows, like on macOS, in the compositor I wanted to write. However writing a compositor using wlroots is still incredibly difficult if you have no prior experience so the whole thing didn’t get very far yet. If that’s something you want to do too, I’d be very interested in this.\n
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    I actually already created a library for that called Heaven ([github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven](https://github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven)), but I want to rewrite it to make it simpler and add backends for different IPC mechanisms (Unix domain sockets and D-Bus).\n
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    It allows apps to create as many menu bars as they want. The idea is that when one of its toplevel windows is activated, it can notify the “topbar app” to display a specific menu bar. The compositor also informs the “topbar app” about the currently active client. So, it has three APIs: one for apps, another for the “topbar app,” and another for the compositor. Apps are identified by their PID.\n
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            Lets see if I got this right, you (the OP), the creator of Louvre, managed to create an example compositor that looks like a better desktop experience than the entire KDE and GNOME teams could ever develop with their infinite wisdom and funding? Fucking amazing. :)\n
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            I know this is an example, but seriously following the “copy apple down to the last pixel” approach you should consider creating a DE for Linux that doesn’t have themes or any user tweaks, just a simple and pixel-perfect copy of macOS. The problem with GNOME and KDE is that they both fail in simple design principals such as proportions, item spacing and whatnot while Apple, and you by extension, excels in that aspect.\n
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            Furthermore my personal opinion is that GNOME tries to reinvent everything and ends up fucking things up and creating situations like the lack of desktop icons going into the activities view by default etc. KDE however does some other stuff right but they fail really badly in terms of proportions and item spacing. Their taskbar is also a shame, for a group that says they want to copy Windows’ style they aren’t doing that well.\n
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            Desktop experiences when it comes to design peaked with macOS Monterey (after that Apple did changes to the settings that are still not polished) and in terms of usability they peaked with the release of Exposé, Spaces and later their integration on Mission Control (initially bad but now they seem better).\n
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            If you do create a 1:1 copy of macOS desktop experience (and keep it updates) as a new DE you’ll most likely become very popular in no time. It doesn’t need themes, customization and all the personalization that would make it really hard to create, just a simply pixel perfect copy of macOS.
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        +body: "Thanks! While I may have nailed server-side decorations in that example, as you know, there is too much other stuff to take into account to make a DE actually functional. So, I respect a lot what KDE and GNOME do and the innovations they make. I actually want to create a macOS clone, hahaha. That is one of the reasons I started this project. I will soon continue working on a library for exposing global menus in Wayland/X11. Qt allows defining a custom platform plugin, enabling us to plug external systems for managing global menus. Sadly, I think GTK4 no longer supports that, so I believe an approach would be to display a standard menu with basic functions for apps that don’t support it."
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        Ohh, that’s cool. How far do you want to go with this? I had the idea of using a custom wayland protocol to make per-app global menus instead of per-window so you can have an app open without any windows, like on macOS, in the compositor I wanted to write. However writing a compositor using wlroots is still incredibly difficult if you have no prior experience so the whole thing didn’t get very far yet. If that’s something you want to do too, I’d be very interested in this.\n
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      I actually already created a library for that called Heaven ([github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven](https://github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven)), but I want to rewrite it to make it simpler and add backends for different IPC mechanisms (Unix domain sockets and D-Bus).\n
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      It allows apps to create as many menu bars as they want. The idea is that when one of its toplevel windows is activated, it can notify the “topbar app” to display a specific menu bar. The compositor also informs the “topbar app” about the currently active client. So, it has three APIs: one for apps, another for the “topbar app,” and another for the compositor. Apps are identified by their PID.\n
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      Now, with respect to the second question, a long time ago, I tried to create a compositor using QtWayland, which had the most documentation at that time. However, it had some problems with certain interfaces that made the compositor crash. So, I then looked for wlroots but could find no documentation whatsoever, so I decided to start from scratch. As time passed, I began to learn and understand how protocols work, realizing that one of the most challenging things was implementing protocols correctly, as there are too many interfaces that depend on each other, and you need to implement them all before you can see results and validate that it works. That’s why I decided to create this lib, even as my university thesis, with the focus of offering a default and basic implementation of each protocol so that developers can see a functional compositor from the start and then gradually and specifically override whatever they need, being able to validate each feature they add immediately. Of course, there are many other complicated things I had to learn, such as the DRM/KMS API, buffer sharing through DMA, among other stuff. I really appreciate wlroots, though. I learned a lot by analyzing its source code, and surely today I would be able to create a compositor with it, hahaha.
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            Lets see if I got this right, you (the OP), the creator of Louvre, managed to create an example compositor that looks like a better desktop experience than the entire KDE and GNOME teams could ever develop with their infinite wisdom and funding? Fucking amazing. :)\n
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            I know this is an example, but seriously following the “copy apple down to the last pixel” approach you should consider creating a DE for Linux that doesn’t have themes or any user tweaks, just a simple and pixel-perfect copy of macOS. The problem with GNOME and KDE is that they both fail in simple design principals such as proportions, item spacing and whatnot while Apple, and you by extension, excels in that aspect.\n
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            Furthermore my personal opinion is that GNOME tries to reinvent everything and ends up fucking things up and creating situations like the lack of desktop icons going into the activities view by default etc. KDE however does some other stuff right but they fail really badly in terms of proportions and item spacing. Their taskbar is also a shame, for a group that says they want to copy Windows’ style they aren’t doing that well.\n
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            Desktop experiences when it comes to design peaked with macOS Monterey (after that Apple did changes to the settings that are still not polished) and in terms of usability they peaked with the release of Exposé, Spaces and later their integration on Mission Control (initially bad but now they seem better).\n
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            If you do create a 1:1 copy of macOS desktop experience (and keep it updates) as a new DE you’ll most likely become very popular in no time. It doesn’t need themes, customization and all the personalization that would make it really hard to create, just a simply pixel perfect copy of macOS.
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        +body: "Thanks! While I may have nailed server-side decorations in that example, as you know, there is too much other stuff to take into account to make a DE actually functional. So, I respect a lot what KDE and GNOME do and the innovations they make. I actually want to create a macOS clone, hahaha. That is one of the reasons I started this project. I will soon continue working on a library for exposing global menus in Wayland/X11. Qt allows defining a custom platform plugin, enabling us to plug external systems for managing global menus. Sadly, I think GTK4 no longer supports that, so I believe an approach would be to display a standard menu with basic functions for apps that don’t support it."
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        Ohh, that’s cool. How far do you want to go with this? I had the idea of using a custom wayland protocol to make per-app global menus instead of per-window so you can have an app open without any windows, like on macOS, in the compositor I wanted to write. However writing a compositor using wlroots is still incredibly difficult if you have no prior experience so the whole thing didn’t get very far yet. If that’s something you want to do too, I’d be very interested in this.\n
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        (Speaking of, why did you decide not to build this on top of wlroots?)
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      I actually already created a library for that called Heaven ([github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven](https://github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven)), but I want to rewrite it to make it simpler and add backends for different IPC mechanisms (Unix domain sockets and D-Bus).\n
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      It allows apps to create as many menu bars as they want. The idea is that when one of its toplevel windows is activated, it can notify the “topbar app” to display a specific menu bar. The compositor also informs the “topbar app” about the currently active client. So, it has three APIs: one for apps, another for the “topbar app,” and another for the compositor. Apps are identified by their PID.\n
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      Now, with respect to the second question, a long time ago, I tried to create a compositor using QtWayland, which had the most documentation at that time. However, it had some problems with certain interfaces that made the compositor crash. So, I then looked for wlroots but could find no documentation whatsoever, so I decided to start from scratch. As time passed, I began to learn and understand how protocols work, realizing that one of the most challenging things was implementing protocols correctly, as there are too many interfaces that depend on each other, and you need to implement them all before you can see results and validate that it works. That’s why I decided to create this lib, even as my university thesis, with the focus of offering a default and basic implementation of each protocol so that developers can see a functional compositor from the start and then gradually and specifically override whatever they need, being able to validate each feature they add immediately. Of course, there are many other complicated things I had to learn, such as the DRM/KMS API, buffer sharing through DMA, among other stuff. I really appreciate wlroots, though. I learned a lot by analyzing its source code, and surely today I would be able to create a compositor with it, hahaha.
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            Lets see if I got this right, you (the OP), the creator of Louvre, managed to create an example compositor that looks like a better desktop experience than the entire KDE and GNOME teams could ever develop with their infinite wisdom and funding? Fucking amazing. :)\n
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            I know this is an example, but seriously following the “copy apple down to the last pixel” approach you should consider creating a DE for Linux that doesn’t have themes or any user tweaks, just a simple and pixel-perfect copy of macOS. The problem with GNOME and KDE is that they both fail in simple design principals such as proportions, item spacing and whatnot while Apple, and you by extension, excels in that aspect.\n
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            Desktop experiences when it comes to design peaked with macOS Monterey (after that Apple did changes to the settings that are still not polished) and in terms of usability they peaked with the release of Exposé, Spaces and later their integration on Mission Control (initially bad but now they seem better).\n
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            If you do create a 1:1 copy of macOS desktop experience (and keep it updates) as a new DE you’ll most likely become very popular in no time. It doesn’t need themes, customization and all the personalization that would make it really hard to create, just a simply pixel perfect copy of macOS.
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        Ohh, that’s cool. How far do you want to go with this? I had the idea of using a custom wayland protocol to make per-app global menus instead of per-window so you can have an app open without any windows, like on macOS, in the compositor I wanted to write. However writing a compositor using wlroots is still incredibly difficult if you have no prior experience so the whole thing didn’t get very far yet. If that’s something you want to do too, I’d be very interested in this.\n
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      I actually already created a library for that called Heaven ([github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven](https://github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven)), but I want to rewrite it to make it simpler and add backends for different IPC mechanisms (Unix domain sockets and D-Bus).\n
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              Lets see if I got this right, you (the OP), the creator of Louvre, managed to create an example compositor that looks like a better desktop experience than the entire KDE and GNOME teams could ever develop with their infinite wisdom and funding? Fucking amazing. :)\n
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              I know this is an example, but seriously following the “copy apple down to the last pixel” approach you should consider creating a DE for Linux that doesn’t have themes or any user tweaks, just a simple and pixel-perfect copy of macOS. The problem with GNOME and KDE is that they both fail in simple design principals such as proportions, item spacing and whatnot while Apple, and you by extension, excels in that aspect.\n
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              Desktop experiences when it comes to design peaked with macOS Monterey (after that Apple did changes to the settings that are still not polished) and in terms of usability they peaked with the release of Exposé, Spaces and later their integration on Mission Control (initially bad but now they seem better).\n
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              If you do create a 1:1 copy of macOS desktop experience (and keep it updates) as a new DE you’ll most likely become very popular in no time. It doesn’t need themes, customization and all the personalization that would make it really hard to create, just a simply pixel perfect copy of macOS.
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          Ohh, that’s cool. How far do you want to go with this? I had the idea of using a custom wayland protocol to make per-app global menus instead of per-window so you can have an app open without any windows, like on macOS, in the compositor I wanted to write. However writing a compositor using wlroots is still incredibly difficult if you have no prior experience so the whole thing didn’t get very far yet. If that’s something you want to do too, I’d be very interested in this.\n
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          (Speaking of, why did you decide not to build this on top of wlroots?)
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        I actually already created a library for that called Heaven ([github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven](https://github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven)), but I want to rewrite it to make it simpler and add backends for different IPC mechanisms (Unix domain sockets and D-Bus).\n
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        It allows apps to create as many menu bars as they want. The idea is that when one of its toplevel windows is activated, it can notify the “topbar app” to display a specific menu bar. The compositor also informs the “topbar app” about the currently active client. So, it has three APIs: one for apps, another for the “topbar app,” and another for the compositor. Apps are identified by their PID.\n
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        Now, with respect to the second question, a long time ago, I tried to create a compositor using QtWayland, which had the most documentation at that time. However, it had some problems with certain interfaces that made the compositor crash. So, I then looked for wlroots but could find no documentation whatsoever, so I decided to start from scratch. As time passed, I began to learn and understand how protocols work, realizing that one of the most challenging things was implementing protocols correctly, as there are too many interfaces that depend on each other, and you need to implement them all before you can see results and validate that it works. That’s why I decided to create this lib, even as my university thesis, with the focus of offering a default and basic implementation of each protocol so that developers can see a functional compositor from the start and then gradually and specifically override whatever they need, being able to validate each feature they add immediately. Of course, there are many other complicated things I had to learn, such as the DRM/KMS API, buffer sharing through DMA, among other stuff. I really appreciate wlroots, though. I learned a lot by analyzing its source code, and surely today I would be able to create a compositor with it, hahaha.
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              Lets see if I got this right, you (the OP), the creator of Louvre, managed to create an example compositor that looks like a better desktop experience than the entire KDE and GNOME teams could ever develop with their infinite wisdom and funding? Fucking amazing. :)\n
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              I know this is an example, but seriously following the “copy apple down to the last pixel” approach you should consider creating a DE for Linux that doesn’t have themes or any user tweaks, just a simple and pixel-perfect copy of macOS. The problem with GNOME and KDE is that they both fail in simple design principals such as proportions, item spacing and whatnot while Apple, and you by extension, excels in that aspect.\n
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              Furthermore my personal opinion is that GNOME tries to reinvent everything and ends up fucking things up and creating situations like the lack of desktop icons going into the activities view by default etc. KDE however does some other stuff right but they fail really badly in terms of proportions and item spacing. Their taskbar is also a shame, for a group that says they want to copy Windows’ style they aren’t doing that well.\n
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              Desktop experiences when it comes to design peaked with macOS Monterey (after that Apple did changes to the settings that are still not polished) and in terms of usability they peaked with the release of Exposé, Spaces and later their integration on Mission Control (initially bad but now they seem better).\n
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              If you do create a 1:1 copy of macOS desktop experience (and keep it updates) as a new DE you’ll most likely become very popular in no time. It doesn’t need themes, customization and all the personalization that would make it really hard to create, just a simply pixel perfect copy of macOS.
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          Ohh, that’s cool. How far do you want to go with this? I had the idea of using a custom wayland protocol to make per-app global menus instead of per-window so you can have an app open without any windows, like on macOS, in the compositor I wanted to write. However writing a compositor using wlroots is still incredibly difficult if you have no prior experience so the whole thing didn’t get very far yet. If that’s something you want to do too, I’d be very interested in this.\n
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          (Speaking of, why did you decide not to build this on top of wlroots?)
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        I actually already created a library for that called Heaven ([github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven](https://github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven)), but I want to rewrite it to make it simpler and add backends for different IPC mechanisms (Unix domain sockets and D-Bus).\n
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        It allows apps to create as many menu bars as they want. The idea is that when one of its toplevel windows is activated, it can notify the “topbar app” to display a specific menu bar. The compositor also informs the “topbar app” about the currently active client. So, it has three APIs: one for apps, another for the “topbar app,” and another for the compositor. Apps are identified by their PID.\n
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        Now, with respect to the second question, a long time ago, I tried to create a compositor using QtWayland, which had the most documentation at that time. However, it had some problems with certain interfaces that made the compositor crash. So, I then looked for wlroots but could find no documentation whatsoever, so I decided to start from scratch. As time passed, I began to learn and understand how protocols work, realizing that one of the most challenging things was implementing protocols correctly, as there are too many interfaces that depend on each other, and you need to implement them all before you can see results and validate that it works. That’s why I decided to create this lib, even as my university thesis, with the focus of offering a default and basic implementation of each protocol so that developers can see a functional compositor from the start and then gradually and specifically override whatever they need, being able to validate each feature they add immediately. Of course, there are many other complicated things I had to learn, such as the DRM/KMS API, buffer sharing through DMA, among other stuff. I really appreciate wlroots, though. I learned a lot by analyzing its source code, and surely today I would be able to create a compositor with it, hahaha.
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              Lets see if I got this right, you (the OP), the creator of Louvre, managed to create an example compositor that looks like a better desktop experience than the entire KDE and GNOME teams could ever develop with their infinite wisdom and funding? Fucking amazing. :)\n
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              I know this is an example, but seriously following the “copy apple down to the last pixel” approach you should consider creating a DE for Linux that doesn’t have themes or any user tweaks, just a simple and pixel-perfect copy of macOS. The problem with GNOME and KDE is that they both fail in simple design principals such as proportions, item spacing and whatnot while Apple, and you by extension, excels in that aspect.\n
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              Furthermore my personal opinion is that GNOME tries to reinvent everything and ends up fucking things up and creating situations like the lack of desktop icons going into the activities view by default etc. KDE however does some other stuff right but they fail really badly in terms of proportions and item spacing. Their taskbar is also a shame, for a group that says they want to copy Windows’ style they aren’t doing that well.\n
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              Desktop experiences when it comes to design peaked with macOS Monterey (after that Apple did changes to the settings that are still not polished) and in terms of usability they peaked with the release of Exposé, Spaces and later their integration on Mission Control (initially bad but now they seem better).\n
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              If you do create a 1:1 copy of macOS desktop experience (and keep it updates) as a new DE you’ll most likely become very popular in no time. It doesn’t need themes, customization and all the personalization that would make it really hard to create, just a simply pixel perfect copy of macOS.
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          +body: "Thanks! While I may have nailed server-side decorations in that example, as you know, there is too much other stuff to take into account to make a DE actually functional. So, I respect a lot what KDE and GNOME do and the innovations they make. I actually want to create a macOS clone, hahaha. That is one of the reasons I started this project. I will soon continue working on a library for exposing global menus in Wayland/X11. Qt allows defining a custom platform plugin, enabling us to plug external systems for managing global menus. Sadly, I think GTK4 no longer supports that, so I believe an approach would be to display a standard menu with basic functions for apps that don’t support it."
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          Ohh, that’s cool. How far do you want to go with this? I had the idea of using a custom wayland protocol to make per-app global menus instead of per-window so you can have an app open without any windows, like on macOS, in the compositor I wanted to write. However writing a compositor using wlroots is still incredibly difficult if you have no prior experience so the whole thing didn’t get very far yet. If that’s something you want to do too, I’d be very interested in this.\n
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        I actually already created a library for that called Heaven ([github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven](https://github.com/CuarzoSoftware/Heaven)), but I want to rewrite it to make it simpler and add backends for different IPC mechanisms (Unix domain sockets and D-Bus).\n
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