GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/m/memes@lemmy.ml/t/21759/6-2-1-2/oldest

Response
200 OK
IP
3.145.80.73
Profiled on
Token
c243a2

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
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  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 27.29 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.05 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\Entry {#2412
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    +icon: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#247 …}
    +name: "memes@lemmy.ml"
    +title: "memes"
    +description: """
      #### Rules:\n
      \n
      1. Be civil and nice.\n
      2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you *have* to.
      """
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    +entryCommentCount: 65073
    +postCount: 25
    +postCommentCount: 152
    +isAdult: false
    +customCss: null
    +lastActive: DateTime @1729583092 {#276
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    +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#223 …}
    +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#181 …}
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    +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox"
    +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
    +apPreferredUsername: "memes"
    +apDiscoverable: true
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    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
    +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1728572889 {#270
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    }
    +apDeletedAt: null
    +apTimeoutAt: null
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1696428223 {#272
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  +body: """
    [zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
    \n
    I wrote a (very long) blog post about those viral math problems and am looking for feedback, especially from people who are not convinced that the problem is ambiguous.\n
    \n
    It’s about a 30min read so thank you in advance if you really take the time to read it, but I think it’s worth it if you joined such discussions in the past, but I’m probably biased because I wrote it :)
    """
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 242
  +favouriteCount: 801
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1711667888 {#2410
    date: 2024-03-29 00:18:08.0 +01:00
  }
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  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1866 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1966 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1946 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1368 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2426 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2439 …}
  +children: []
  -id: 21759
  -titleTs: "'+2':4 '1':3 '2':2 '6':1"
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  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1702449986
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  +apId: "https://programming.dev/post/7145882"
  +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703972491 {#1850
    date: 2023-12-30 22:41:31.0 +01:00
  }
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1702363586 {#2420
    date: 2023-12-12 07:46:26.0 +01:00
  }
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
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    +name: "memes@lemmy.ml"
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    +description: """
      #### Rules:\n
      \n
      1. Be civil and nice.\n
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      """
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    +entryCommentCount: 65073
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    +customCss: null
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    +apDomain: "lemmy.ml"
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  +body: """
    [zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
    \n
    I wrote a (very long) blog post about those viral math problems and am looking for feedback, especially from people who are not convinced that the problem is ambiguous.\n
    \n
    It’s about a 30min read so thank you in advance if you really take the time to read it, but I think it’s worth it if you joined such discussions in the past, but I’m probably biased because I wrote it :)
    """
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  +children: []
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  +cross: false
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  +apId: "https://programming.dev/post/7145882"
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    date: 2023-12-30 22:41:31.0 +01:00
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    date: 2023-12-12 07:46:26.0 +01:00
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
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      #### Rules:\n
      \n
      1. Be civil and nice.\n
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      """
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    [zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
    \n
    I wrote a (very long) blog post about those viral math problems and am looking for feedback, especially from people who are not convinced that the problem is ambiguous.\n
    \n
    It’s about a 30min read so thank you in advance if you really take the time to read it, but I think it’s worth it if you joined such discussions in the past, but I’m probably biased because I wrote it :)
    """
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate 
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      They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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      They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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    Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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        They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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        Giving the answer to a question they didn't ask to avoid the one they did is immature.
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      Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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    I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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    But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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    > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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    However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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        They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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        Giving the answer to a question they didn't ask to avoid the one they did is immature.
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      Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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    I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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    But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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    > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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    However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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        They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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        Giving the answer to a question they didn't ask to avoid the one they did is immature.
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      Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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    I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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    > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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    However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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          They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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        Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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        That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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      I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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      > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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          They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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        Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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        That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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      I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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          They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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          Giving the answer to a question they didn't ask to avoid the one they did is immature.
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        Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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        That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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      I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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      But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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      > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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      However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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            They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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            Giving the answer to a question they didn't ask to avoid the one they did is immature.
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          Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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          That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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        I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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        But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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        > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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        However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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        Unless you're refusing the notion of multiplication by juxtaposition entirely, then you must be on one side of this or the other.
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    When the @onion said there were two different sets of rules, you know as well as I do that they meant strong vs. weak juxtaposition.\n
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    You're right that in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and if they did they would usually provide context to help resolve it without resorting to having to guess...\n
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    But the point of this post is exactly to point out this hole that exists in the standard order of operations, the drama that has resulted from it, and to shine some light on it.\n
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    Picking a side makes no sense only if you have the context to otherwise resolve it... If you were told to solve this equation, and given no other context to do so, you would either have to pick a side or resolve it both ways and give both answers. In that scenario, crossing your arms and refusing to because "it doesn't make sense" would get you nowhere.\n
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            They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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            Giving the answer to a question they didn't ask to avoid the one they did is immature.
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          Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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          That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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        I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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        But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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        > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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        However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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        Unless you're refusing the notion of multiplication by juxtaposition entirely, then you must be on one side of this or the other.
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    When the @onion said there were two different sets of rules, you know as well as I do that they meant strong vs. weak juxtaposition.\n
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    You're right that in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and if they did they would usually provide context to help resolve it without resorting to having to guess...\n
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    But the point of this post is exactly to point out this hole that exists in the standard order of operations, the drama that has resulted from it, and to shine some light on it.\n
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    Picking a side makes no sense only if you have the context to otherwise resolve it... If you were told to solve this equation, and given no other context to do so, you would either have to pick a side or resolve it both ways and give both answers. In that scenario, crossing your arms and refusing to because "it doesn't make sense" would get you nowhere.\n
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    In all honesty, I think you're acting like the people who say things like "I've never used algebra, so it was worthless teaching me it as a kid" as though there aren't people who would learn something out of this.
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      It’s about a 30min read so thank you in advance if you really take the time to read it, but I think it’s worth it if you joined such discussions in the past, but I’m probably biased because I wrote it :)
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                    +body: "It’s not ambiguous, it’s just that correctly parsing the expression requires more precise application of the order of operations than is typical. It’s unclear, sure. Implicit multiplication having higher precedence is intuitive, sure, but not part of the standard as-written order of operations."
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            They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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            Giving the answer to a question they didn't ask to avoid the one they did is immature.
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          Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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          That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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        I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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        But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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        > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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        However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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        Unless you're refusing the notion of multiplication by juxtaposition entirely, then you must be on one side of this or the other.
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    When the @onion said there were two different sets of rules, you know as well as I do that they meant strong vs. weak juxtaposition.\n
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    You're right that in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and if they did they would usually provide context to help resolve it without resorting to having to guess...\n
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    But the point of this post is exactly to point out this hole that exists in the standard order of operations, the drama that has resulted from it, and to shine some light on it.\n
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              They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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            Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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          I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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          But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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          > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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          However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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          Unless you're refusing the notion of multiplication by juxtaposition entirely, then you must be on one side of this or the other.
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      When the @onion said there were two different sets of rules, you know as well as I do that they meant strong vs. weak juxtaposition.\n
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      You're right that in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and if they did they would usually provide context to help resolve it without resorting to having to guess...\n
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      But the point of this post is exactly to point out this hole that exists in the standard order of operations, the drama that has resulted from it, and to shine some light on it.\n
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      Picking a side makes no sense only if you have the context to otherwise resolve it... If you were told to solve this equation, and given no other context to do so, you would either have to pick a side or resolve it both ways and give both answers. In that scenario, crossing your arms and refusing to because "it doesn't make sense" would get you nowhere.\n
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              They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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            Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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            That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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          I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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          But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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          > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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      When the @onion said there were two different sets of rules, you know as well as I do that they meant strong vs. weak juxtaposition.\n
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      You're right that in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and if they did they would usually provide context to help resolve it without resorting to having to guess...\n
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      But the point of this post is exactly to point out this hole that exists in the standard order of operations, the drama that has resulted from it, and to shine some light on it.\n
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      Picking a side makes no sense only if you have the context to otherwise resolve it... If you were told to solve this equation, and given no other context to do so, you would either have to pick a side or resolve it both ways and give both answers. In that scenario, crossing your arms and refusing to because "it doesn't make sense" would get you nowhere.\n
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                  +body: "My opinion hasn’t changed. The standard order of operations is as well defined as a notational convention can be. It’s not necessarily followed strictly in practice, but it’s easier to view such examples as normal deviation from the rules instead of an implicit disagreement about the rules themselves. For example, I know how to “properly” capitalize my sentences too, and I intentionally do it “wrong” all the time. To an outsider claiming my capitalization is incorrect, I don’t say “I am using a different standard,” I just say “Yes, I know, I don’t care.” This is simpler because it accepts the common knowledge of the “normal” rules and communicates a specific intent to deviate. The alternative is to try to invent a new set of ad hoc rules that justify my side, and explain why these rules are equally valid to the ones we both know and understand."
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              They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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              Giving the answer to a question they didn't ask to avoid the one they did is immature.
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            Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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            That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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          I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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          But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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          > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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          However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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          Unless you're refusing the notion of multiplication by juxtaposition entirely, then you must be on one side of this or the other.
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      When the @onion said there were two different sets of rules, you know as well as I do that they meant strong vs. weak juxtaposition.\n
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      You're right that in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and if they did they would usually provide context to help resolve it without resorting to having to guess...\n
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      But the point of this post is exactly to point out this hole that exists in the standard order of operations, the drama that has resulted from it, and to shine some light on it.\n
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      Picking a side makes no sense only if you have the context to otherwise resolve it... If you were told to solve this equation, and given no other context to do so, you would either have to pick a side or resolve it both ways and give both answers. In that scenario, crossing your arms and refusing to because "it doesn't make sense" would get you nowhere.\n
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      In all honesty, I think you're acting like the people who say things like "I've never used algebra, so it was worthless teaching me it as a kid" as though there aren't people who would learn something out of this.
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                        +body: "It’s not ambiguous, it’s just that correctly parsing the expression requires more precise application of the order of operations than is typical. It’s unclear, sure. Implicit multiplication having higher precedence is intuitive, sure, but not part of the standard as-written order of operations."
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                    +body: "My opinion hasn’t changed. The standard order of operations is as well defined as a notational convention can be. It’s not necessarily followed strictly in practice, but it’s easier to view such examples as normal deviation from the rules instead of an implicit disagreement about the rules themselves. For example, I know how to “properly” capitalize my sentences too, and I intentionally do it “wrong” all the time. To an outsider claiming my capitalization is incorrect, I don’t say “I am using a different standard,” I just say “Yes, I know, I don’t care.” This is simpler because it accepts the common knowledge of the “normal” rules and communicates a specific intent to deviate. The alternative is to try to invent a new set of ad hoc rules that justify my side, and explain why these rules are equally valid to the ones we both know and understand."
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                They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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                Giving the answer to a question they didn't ask to avoid the one they did is immature.
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              Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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              That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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            I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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            But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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            > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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            However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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            Unless you're refusing the notion of multiplication by juxtaposition entirely, then you must be on one side of this or the other.
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        When the @onion said there were two different sets of rules, you know as well as I do that they meant strong vs. weak juxtaposition.\n
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        You're right that in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and if they did they would usually provide context to help resolve it without resorting to having to guess...\n
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        But the point of this post is exactly to point out this hole that exists in the standard order of operations, the drama that has resulted from it, and to shine some light on it.\n
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        Picking a side makes no sense only if you have the context to otherwise resolve it... If you were told to solve this equation, and given no other context to do so, you would either have to pick a side or resolve it both ways and give both answers. In that scenario, crossing your arms and refusing to because "it doesn't make sense" would get you nowhere.\n
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    That's rich considering what sparked this conversation was you refusing to answer a simple question.\n
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    Good luck to you too - with reading comprehension like your's, you might just need it.
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                They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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              Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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              That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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            I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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            But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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            > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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            However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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            Unless you're refusing the notion of multiplication by juxtaposition entirely, then you must be on one side of this or the other.
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        When the @onion said there were two different sets of rules, you know as well as I do that they meant strong vs. weak juxtaposition.\n
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        You're right that in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and if they did they would usually provide context to help resolve it without resorting to having to guess...\n
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        But the point of this post is exactly to point out this hole that exists in the standard order of operations, the drama that has resulted from it, and to shine some light on it.\n
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        Picking a side makes no sense only if you have the context to otherwise resolve it... If you were told to solve this equation, and given no other context to do so, you would either have to pick a side or resolve it both ways and give both answers. In that scenario, crossing your arms and refusing to because "it doesn't make sense" would get you nowhere.\n
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    That's rich considering what sparked this conversation was you refusing to answer a simple question.\n
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    Good luck to you too - with reading comprehension like your's, you might just need it.
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                They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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                Giving the answer to a question they didn't ask to avoid the one they did is immature.
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              Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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              That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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            I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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            But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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            > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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            However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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            Unless you're refusing the notion of multiplication by juxtaposition entirely, then you must be on one side of this or the other.
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        When the @onion said there were two different sets of rules, you know as well as I do that they meant strong vs. weak juxtaposition.\n
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        You're right that in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and if they did they would usually provide context to help resolve it without resorting to having to guess...\n
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        But the point of this post is exactly to point out this hole that exists in the standard order of operations, the drama that has resulted from it, and to shine some light on it.\n
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        Picking a side makes no sense only if you have the context to otherwise resolve it... If you were told to solve this equation, and given no other context to do so, you would either have to pick a side or resolve it both ways and give both answers. In that scenario, crossing your arms and refusing to because "it doesn't make sense" would get you nowhere.\n
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        In all honesty, I think you're acting like the people who say things like "I've never used algebra, so it was worthless teaching me it as a kid" as though there aren't people who would learn something out of this.
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    That's rich considering what sparked this conversation was you refusing to answer a simple question.\n
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    Good luck to you too - with reading comprehension like your's, you might just need it.
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                          +body: "It’s not ambiguous, it’s just that correctly parsing the expression requires more precise application of the order of operations than is typical. It’s unclear, sure. Implicit multiplication having higher precedence is intuitive, sure, but not part of the standard as-written order of operations."
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                        +body: "I’d really like to know if and how your view on that matter would change once you read the full post. I know it’s very long and a lot of people won’t read it because they “already know” the answer but I’m pretty sure it would shift your perception at least a bit if you find the time to read it."
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                      +body: "My opinion hasn’t changed. The standard order of operations is as well defined as a notational convention can be. It’s not necessarily followed strictly in practice, but it’s easier to view such examples as normal deviation from the rules instead of an implicit disagreement about the rules themselves. For example, I know how to “properly” capitalize my sentences too, and I intentionally do it “wrong” all the time. To an outsider claiming my capitalization is incorrect, I don’t say “I am using a different standard,” I just say “Yes, I know, I don’t care.” This is simpler because it accepts the common knowledge of the “normal” rules and communicates a specific intent to deviate. The alternative is to try to invent a new set of ad hoc rules that justify my side, and explain why these rules are equally valid to the ones we both know and understand."
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                  They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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                  Giving the answer to a question they didn't ask to avoid the one they did is immature.
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                Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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                That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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              I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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              But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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              > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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              However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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              Unless you're refusing the notion of multiplication by juxtaposition entirely, then you must be on one side of this or the other.
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          When the @onion said there were two different sets of rules, you know as well as I do that they meant strong vs. weak juxtaposition.\n
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          You're right that in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and if they did they would usually provide context to help resolve it without resorting to having to guess...\n
          \n
          But the point of this post is exactly to point out this hole that exists in the standard order of operations, the drama that has resulted from it, and to shine some light on it.\n
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          Picking a side makes no sense only if you have the context to otherwise resolve it... If you were told to solve this equation, and given no other context to do so, you would either have to pick a side or resolve it both ways and give both answers. In that scenario, crossing your arms and refusing to because "it doesn't make sense" would get you nowhere.\n
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          In all honesty, I think you're acting like the people who say things like "I've never used algebra, so it was worthless teaching me it as a kid" as though there aren't people who would learn something out of this.
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      That's rich considering what sparked this conversation was you refusing to answer a simple question.\n
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      Good luck to you too - with reading comprehension like your's, you might just need it.
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    > with reading comprehension like your’s\n
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    Man.
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                  They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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                Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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                That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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              I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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              But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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              > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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              However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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              Unless you're refusing the notion of multiplication by juxtaposition entirely, then you must be on one side of this or the other.
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          When the @onion said there were two different sets of rules, you know as well as I do that they meant strong vs. weak juxtaposition.\n
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          You're right that in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and if they did they would usually provide context to help resolve it without resorting to having to guess...\n
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          But the point of this post is exactly to point out this hole that exists in the standard order of operations, the drama that has resulted from it, and to shine some light on it.\n
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          Picking a side makes no sense only if you have the context to otherwise resolve it... If you were told to solve this equation, and given no other context to do so, you would either have to pick a side or resolve it both ways and give both answers. In that scenario, crossing your arms and refusing to because "it doesn't make sense" would get you nowhere.\n
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          In all honesty, I think you're acting like the people who say things like "I've never used algebra, so it was worthless teaching me it as a kid" as though there aren't people who would learn something out of this.
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      That's rich considering what sparked this conversation was you refusing to answer a simple question.\n
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      Good luck to you too - with reading comprehension like your's, you might just need it.
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    > with reading comprehension like your’s\n
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    Man.
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                          +body: "It’s not ambiguous, it’s just that correctly parsing the expression requires more precise application of the order of operations than is typical. It’s unclear, sure. Implicit multiplication having higher precedence is intuitive, sure, but not part of the standard as-written order of operations."
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                        +body: "I’d really like to know if and how your view on that matter would change once you read the full post. I know it’s very long and a lot of people won’t read it because they “already know” the answer but I’m pretty sure it would shift your perception at least a bit if you find the time to read it."
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                      +body: "My opinion hasn’t changed. The standard order of operations is as well defined as a notational convention can be. It’s not necessarily followed strictly in practice, but it’s easier to view such examples as normal deviation from the rules instead of an implicit disagreement about the rules themselves. For example, I know how to “properly” capitalize my sentences too, and I intentionally do it “wrong” all the time. To an outsider claiming my capitalization is incorrect, I don’t say “I am using a different standard,” I just say “Yes, I know, I don’t care.” This is simpler because it accepts the common knowledge of the “normal” rules and communicates a specific intent to deviate. The alternative is to try to invent a new set of ad hoc rules that justify my side, and explain why these rules are equally valid to the ones we both know and understand."
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                    +body: "The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?"
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                  +body: "There aren’t."
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                  They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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                  Giving the answer to a question they didn't ask to avoid the one they did is immature.
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                Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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                That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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              I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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              But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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              > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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              However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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              Unless you're refusing the notion of multiplication by juxtaposition entirely, then you must be on one side of this or the other.
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          When the @onion said there were two different sets of rules, you know as well as I do that they meant strong vs. weak juxtaposition.\n
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          You're right that in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and if they did they would usually provide context to help resolve it without resorting to having to guess...\n
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          But the point of this post is exactly to point out this hole that exists in the standard order of operations, the drama that has resulted from it, and to shine some light on it.\n
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          Picking a side makes no sense only if you have the context to otherwise resolve it... If you were told to solve this equation, and given no other context to do so, you would either have to pick a side or resolve it both ways and give both answers. In that scenario, crossing your arms and refusing to because "it doesn't make sense" would get you nowhere.\n
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          In all honesty, I think you're acting like the people who say things like "I've never used algebra, so it was worthless teaching me it as a kid" as though there aren't people who would learn something out of this.
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      That's rich considering what sparked this conversation was you refusing to answer a simple question.\n
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      Good luck to you too - with reading comprehension like your's, you might just need it.
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                            +body: "It’s not ambiguous, it’s just that correctly parsing the expression requires more precise application of the order of operations than is typical. It’s unclear, sure. Implicit multiplication having higher precedence is intuitive, sure, but not part of the standard as-written order of operations."
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                        +body: "My opinion hasn’t changed. The standard order of operations is as well defined as a notational convention can be. It’s not necessarily followed strictly in practice, but it’s easier to view such examples as normal deviation from the rules instead of an implicit disagreement about the rules themselves. For example, I know how to “properly” capitalize my sentences too, and I intentionally do it “wrong” all the time. To an outsider claiming my capitalization is incorrect, I don’t say “I am using a different standard,” I just say “Yes, I know, I don’t care.” This is simpler because it accepts the common knowledge of the “normal” rules and communicates a specific intent to deviate. The alternative is to try to invent a new set of ad hoc rules that justify my side, and explain why these rules are equally valid to the ones we both know and understand."
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                    They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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                    Giving the answer to a question they didn't ask to avoid the one they did is immature.
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                  Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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                  That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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                I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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                But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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                > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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                However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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                Unless you're refusing the notion of multiplication by juxtaposition entirely, then you must be on one side of this or the other.
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            When the @onion said there were two different sets of rules, you know as well as I do that they meant strong vs. weak juxtaposition.\n
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            You're right that in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and if they did they would usually provide context to help resolve it without resorting to having to guess...\n
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            But the point of this post is exactly to point out this hole that exists in the standard order of operations, the drama that has resulted from it, and to shine some light on it.\n
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            Picking a side makes no sense only if you have the context to otherwise resolve it... If you were told to solve this equation, and given no other context to do so, you would either have to pick a side or resolve it both ways and give both answers. In that scenario, crossing your arms and refusing to because "it doesn't make sense" would get you nowhere.\n
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            In all honesty, I think you're acting like the people who say things like "I've never used algebra, so it was worthless teaching me it as a kid" as though there aren't people who would learn something out of this.
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        That's rich considering what sparked this conversation was you refusing to answer a simple question.\n
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        Good luck to you too - with reading comprehension like your's, you might just need it.
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      > with reading comprehension like your’s\n
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      Man.
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    I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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    I'm just saying, if you really believe that to be the case, Good luck.
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                            +body: "It’s not ambiguous, it’s just that correctly parsing the expression requires more precise application of the order of operations than is typical. It’s unclear, sure. Implicit multiplication having higher precedence is intuitive, sure, but not part of the standard as-written order of operations."
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                          +body: "I’d really like to know if and how your view on that matter would change once you read the full post. I know it’s very long and a lot of people won’t read it because they “already know” the answer but I’m pretty sure it would shift your perception at least a bit if you find the time to read it."
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                        +body: "My opinion hasn’t changed. The standard order of operations is as well defined as a notational convention can be. It’s not necessarily followed strictly in practice, but it’s easier to view such examples as normal deviation from the rules instead of an implicit disagreement about the rules themselves. For example, I know how to “properly” capitalize my sentences too, and I intentionally do it “wrong” all the time. To an outsider claiming my capitalization is incorrect, I don’t say “I am using a different standard,” I just say “Yes, I know, I don’t care.” This is simpler because it accepts the common knowledge of the “normal” rules and communicates a specific intent to deviate. The alternative is to try to invent a new set of ad hoc rules that justify my side, and explain why these rules are equally valid to the ones we both know and understand."
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                      +body: "The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?"
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                    +body: "There aren’t."
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                    They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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                    Giving the answer to a question they didn't ask to avoid the one they did is immature.
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                  Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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                  That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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                I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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                But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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                > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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                However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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                Unless you're refusing the notion of multiplication by juxtaposition entirely, then you must be on one side of this or the other.
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            +body: "“Which ruleset do you consider correct” presupposes, as the comment said, that there are 2 rulesets. There aren’t. There’s the standard, well known, and simplified model which is taught to kids, and there’s the real world, where adults communicate by using context and shared understanding. Picking a side here makes no sense."
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            When the @onion said there were two different sets of rules, you know as well as I do that they meant strong vs. weak juxtaposition.\n
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            You're right that in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and if they did they would usually provide context to help resolve it without resorting to having to guess...\n
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            But the point of this post is exactly to point out this hole that exists in the standard order of operations, the drama that has resulted from it, and to shine some light on it.\n
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            Picking a side makes no sense only if you have the context to otherwise resolve it... If you were told to solve this equation, and given no other context to do so, you would either have to pick a side or resolve it both ways and give both answers. In that scenario, crossing your arms and refusing to because "it doesn't make sense" would get you nowhere.\n
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            In all honesty, I think you're acting like the people who say things like "I've never used algebra, so it was worthless teaching me it as a kid" as though there aren't people who would learn something out of this.
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        That's rich considering what sparked this conversation was you refusing to answer a simple question.\n
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        Good luck to you too - with reading comprehension like your's, you might just need it.
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      > with reading comprehension like your’s\n
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      Man.
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    I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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      [zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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                            +body: "It’s not ambiguous, it’s just that correctly parsing the expression requires more precise application of the order of operations than is typical. It’s unclear, sure. Implicit multiplication having higher precedence is intuitive, sure, but not part of the standard as-written order of operations."
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                        +body: "My opinion hasn’t changed. The standard order of operations is as well defined as a notational convention can be. It’s not necessarily followed strictly in practice, but it’s easier to view such examples as normal deviation from the rules instead of an implicit disagreement about the rules themselves. For example, I know how to “properly” capitalize my sentences too, and I intentionally do it “wrong” all the time. To an outsider claiming my capitalization is incorrect, I don’t say “I am using a different standard,” I just say “Yes, I know, I don’t care.” This is simpler because it accepts the common knowledge of the “normal” rules and communicates a specific intent to deviate. The alternative is to try to invent a new set of ad hoc rules that justify my side, and explain why these rules are equally valid to the ones we both know and understand."
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                    They weren't asking you if there are two sets of rules, we're in a thread that's basically all qbout the Weak vs. Strong juxtaposition debate, they asked you which you consider correct.\n
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                    Giving the answer to a question they didn't ask to avoid the one they did is immature.
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                  Ah yes, simply “answer the question with an incorrect premise instead of refuting the premise.” When did you stop beating your wife?\n
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                  That’s not what they asked me. I have no problem answering questions that are asked in good faith.
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                I can't have stopped because I never started, because I'm not even married... See, even I can answer your bad faith question better than you answered the one @onion asked you.\n
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                But I will give it to you that my comment should've stipulated avoiding reasonable questions.\n
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                > The difference is that there are two sets of rules already in use by large groups of people, so which do you consider correct?\n
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                However I still think you need your eyes checked, as the end of this comment by @onion is very clearly a question asking you WHICH ruleset you consider correct.\n
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                Unless you're refusing the notion of multiplication by juxtaposition entirely, then you must be on one side of this or the other.
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            When the @onion said there were two different sets of rules, you know as well as I do that they meant strong vs. weak juxtaposition.\n
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            You're right that in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and if they did they would usually provide context to help resolve it without resorting to having to guess...\n
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            But the point of this post is exactly to point out this hole that exists in the standard order of operations, the drama that has resulted from it, and to shine some light on it.\n
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            Picking a side makes no sense only if you have the context to otherwise resolve it... If you were told to solve this equation, and given no other context to do so, you would either have to pick a side or resolve it both ways and give both answers. In that scenario, crossing your arms and refusing to because "it doesn't make sense" would get you nowhere.\n
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            In all honesty, I think you're acting like the people who say things like "I've never used algebra, so it was worthless teaching me it as a kid" as though there aren't people who would learn something out of this.
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        That's rich considering what sparked this conversation was you refusing to answer a simple question.\n
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        Good luck to you too - with reading comprehension like your's, you might just need it.
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      > with reading comprehension like your’s\n
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      Man.
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    I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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    I'm just saying, if you really believe that to be the case, Good luck.
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          I guess if you wrote it out with a different annotation it would be\n
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      Never mind, here’s another better way to do this:\n
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      Never mind, here’s another better way to do this:\n
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        You state that the ambiguity comes from the implicit multiplication and not the use of the obelus.\n
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      In this case it’s actually the absence of sources. I couldn’t find a single credible source that states that ÷ has somehow a different operator priority than / or that :\n
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    What is your source for the priority of the / operator?\n
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    Same priority operations are solved from left to right. There is not a single credible calculator that would evaluate “6 / 2 * 3” to anything else but 9.\n
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    But I challenge you to show me a calculator that says otherwise. In the blog are about 2 or 3 dozend calculators referenced by name all of them say the same thing. Instead of a calculator you can also name a single expert in the field who would say that 6 / 2 * 3 is anything but 9.
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          You state that the ambiguity comes from the implicit multiplication and not the use of the obelus.\n
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          You state that the ambiguity comes from the implicit multiplication and not the use of the obelus.\n
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        In this case it’s actually the absence of sources. I couldn’t find a single credible source that states that ÷ has somehow a different operator priority than / or that :\n
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      What is your source for the priority of the / operator?\n
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    Same priority operations are solved from left to right. There is not a single credible calculator that would evaluate “6 / 2 * 3” to anything else but 9.\n
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    But I challenge you to show me a calculator that says otherwise. In the blog are about 2 or 3 dozend calculators referenced by name all of them say the same thing. Instead of a calculator you can also name a single expert in the field who would say that 6 / 2 * 3 is anything but 9.
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            You state that the ambiguity comes from the implicit multiplication and not the use of the obelus.\n
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            I.e. That 6 ÷ 2 x 3 is not ambiguous\n
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          In this case it’s actually the absence of sources. I couldn’t find a single credible source that states that ÷ has somehow a different operator priority than / or that :\n
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        What is your source for the priority of the / operator?\n
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      Same priority operations are solved from left to right. There is not a single credible calculator that would evaluate “6 / 2 * 3” to anything else but 9.\n
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    Will you accept wolfram alpha as credible source?\n
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    [mathworld.wolfram.com/Solidus.html](https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Solidus.html)\n
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    > Special care is needed when interpreting the meaning of a solidus in in-line math because of the notational ambiguity in expressions such as a/bc. Whereas in many textbooks, “a/bc” is intended to denote a/(bc), taken literally or evaluated in a symbolic mathematics languages such as the Wolfram Language, it means (a/b)×c. For clarity, parentheses should therefore always be used when delineating compound denominators.
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            You state that the ambiguity comes from the implicit multiplication and not the use of the obelus.\n
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            I.e. That 6 ÷ 2 x 3 is not ambiguous\n
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            What is your source for your statement that there is an accepted convention for the priority of the iinline obelus or solidus symbol?\n
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            As far as I’m aware, every style guide states that a fraction bar (preferably) or parentheses should be used to resolve the ambiguity when there are additional operators to the right of a solidus, and that an obelus should never be used.\n
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            Which therefore would make it the division expressed with an obelus that creates the ambiguity, and not the implicit multiplication.\n
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            (Rest of the post is great)
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          In this case it’s actually the absence of sources. I couldn’t find a single credible source that states that ÷ has somehow a different operator priority than / or that :\n
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          The only things there are a lot of are social media comments claiming that without any source.\n
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        What is your source for the priority of the / operator?\n
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        i.e. why do you say 6 / 2 * 3 is unambiguous?\n
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        Every source I’ve seen states that multiplication and division are equal priority operations. And one should clarify, either with a fraction bar (preferably) or parentheses if the order would make a difference.
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      Same priority operations are solved from left to right. There is not a single credible calculator that would evaluate “6 / 2 * 3” to anything else but 9.\n
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      But I challenge you to show me a calculator that says otherwise. In the blog are about 2 or 3 dozend calculators referenced by name all of them say the same thing. Instead of a calculator you can also name a single expert in the field who would say that 6 / 2 * 3 is anything but 9.
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    Will you accept wolfram alpha as credible source?\n
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    [mathworld.wolfram.com/Solidus.html](https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Solidus.html)\n
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    > Special care is needed when interpreting the meaning of a solidus in in-line math because of the notational ambiguity in expressions such as a/bc. Whereas in many textbooks, “a/bc” is intended to denote a/(bc), taken literally or evaluated in a symbolic mathematics languages such as the Wolfram Language, it means (a/b)×c. For clarity, parentheses should therefore always be used when delineating compound denominators.
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            You state that the ambiguity comes from the implicit multiplication and not the use of the obelus.\n
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            I.e. That 6 ÷ 2 x 3 is not ambiguous\n
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            What is your source for your statement that there is an accepted convention for the priority of the iinline obelus or solidus symbol?\n
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            As far as I’m aware, every style guide states that a fraction bar (preferably) or parentheses should be used to resolve the ambiguity when there are additional operators to the right of a solidus, and that an obelus should never be used.\n
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            Which therefore would make it the division expressed with an obelus that creates the ambiguity, and not the implicit multiplication.\n
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            (Rest of the post is great)
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          In this case it’s actually the absence of sources. I couldn’t find a single credible source that states that ÷ has somehow a different operator priority than / or that :\n
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          The only things there are a lot of are social media comments claiming that without any source.\n
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          My guess is that this comes from a misunderstanding that the obelus sign is forbidden in a lot of standards. But that’s because it can be confused with other symbols and operations and not because the order of operations is somehow unclear.
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        What is your source for the priority of the / operator?\n
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        i.e. why do you say 6 / 2 * 3 is unambiguous?\n
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        Every source I’ve seen states that multiplication and division are equal priority operations. And one should clarify, either with a fraction bar (preferably) or parentheses if the order would make a difference.
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      Same priority operations are solved from left to right. There is not a single credible calculator that would evaluate “6 / 2 * 3” to anything else but 9.\n
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      But I challenge you to show me a calculator that says otherwise. In the blog are about 2 or 3 dozend calculators referenced by name all of them say the same thing. Instead of a calculator you can also name a single expert in the field who would say that 6 / 2 * 3 is anything but 9.
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    Will you accept wolfram alpha as credible source?\n
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    [mathworld.wolfram.com/Solidus.html](https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Solidus.html)\n
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    > Special care is needed when interpreting the meaning of a solidus in in-line math because of the notational ambiguity in expressions such as a/bc. Whereas in many textbooks, “a/bc” is intended to denote a/(bc), taken literally or evaluated in a symbolic mathematics languages such as the Wolfram Language, it means (a/b)×c. For clarity, parentheses should therefore always be used when delineating compound denominators.
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              You state that the ambiguity comes from the implicit multiplication and not the use of the obelus.\n
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              I.e. That 6 ÷ 2 x 3 is not ambiguous\n
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              What is your source for your statement that there is an accepted convention for the priority of the iinline obelus or solidus symbol?\n
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              As far as I’m aware, every style guide states that a fraction bar (preferably) or parentheses should be used to resolve the ambiguity when there are additional operators to the right of a solidus, and that an obelus should never be used.\n
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              Which therefore would make it the division expressed with an obelus that creates the ambiguity, and not the implicit multiplication.\n
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            In this case it’s actually the absence of sources. I couldn’t find a single credible source that states that ÷ has somehow a different operator priority than / or that :\n
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            The only things there are a lot of are social media comments claiming that without any source.\n
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            My guess is that this comes from a misunderstanding that the obelus sign is forbidden in a lot of standards. But that’s because it can be confused with other symbols and operations and not because the order of operations is somehow unclear.
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          What is your source for the priority of the / operator?\n
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          i.e. why do you say 6 / 2 * 3 is unambiguous?\n
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          Every source I’ve seen states that multiplication and division are equal priority operations. And one should clarify, either with a fraction bar (preferably) or parentheses if the order would make a difference.
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        Same priority operations are solved from left to right. There is not a single credible calculator that would evaluate “6 / 2 * 3” to anything else but 9.\n
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        But I challenge you to show me a calculator that says otherwise. In the blog are about 2 or 3 dozend calculators referenced by name all of them say the same thing. Instead of a calculator you can also name a single expert in the field who would say that 6 / 2 * 3 is anything but 9.
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      Will you accept wolfram alpha as credible source?\n
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      [mathworld.wolfram.com/Solidus.html](https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Solidus.html)\n
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      > Special care is needed when interpreting the meaning of a solidus in in-line math because of the notational ambiguity in expressions such as a/bc. Whereas in many textbooks, “a/bc” is intended to denote a/(bc), taken literally or evaluated in a symbolic mathematics languages such as the Wolfram Language, it means (a/b)×c. For clarity, parentheses should therefore always be used when delineating compound denominators.
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              You state that the ambiguity comes from the implicit multiplication and not the use of the obelus.\n
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            In this case it’s actually the absence of sources. I couldn’t find a single credible source that states that ÷ has somehow a different operator priority than / or that :\n
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            The only things there are a lot of are social media comments claiming that without any source.\n
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            My guess is that this comes from a misunderstanding that the obelus sign is forbidden in a lot of standards. But that’s because it can be confused with other symbols and operations and not because the order of operations is somehow unclear.
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          What is your source for the priority of the / operator?\n
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          i.e. why do you say 6 / 2 * 3 is unambiguous?\n
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          Every source I’ve seen states that multiplication and division are equal priority operations. And one should clarify, either with a fraction bar (preferably) or parentheses if the order would make a difference.
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        Same priority operations are solved from left to right. There is not a single credible calculator that would evaluate “6 / 2 * 3” to anything else but 9.\n
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        But I challenge you to show me a calculator that says otherwise. In the blog are about 2 or 3 dozend calculators referenced by name all of them say the same thing. Instead of a calculator you can also name a single expert in the field who would say that 6 / 2 * 3 is anything but 9.
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      Will you accept wolfram alpha as credible source?\n
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      [mathworld.wolfram.com/Solidus.html](https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Solidus.html)\n
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      > Special care is needed when interpreting the meaning of a solidus in in-line math because of the notational ambiguity in expressions such as a/bc. Whereas in many textbooks, “a/bc” is intended to denote a/(bc), taken literally or evaluated in a symbolic mathematics languages such as the Wolfram Language, it means (a/b)×c. For clarity, parentheses should therefore always be used when delineating compound denominators.
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              You state that the ambiguity comes from the implicit multiplication and not the use of the obelus.\n
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              I.e. That 6 ÷ 2 x 3 is not ambiguous\n
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              What is your source for your statement that there is an accepted convention for the priority of the iinline obelus or solidus symbol?\n
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              As far as I’m aware, every style guide states that a fraction bar (preferably) or parentheses should be used to resolve the ambiguity when there are additional operators to the right of a solidus, and that an obelus should never be used.\n
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              Which therefore would make it the division expressed with an obelus that creates the ambiguity, and not the implicit multiplication.\n
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            In this case it’s actually the absence of sources. I couldn’t find a single credible source that states that ÷ has somehow a different operator priority than / or that :\n
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            The only things there are a lot of are social media comments claiming that without any source.\n
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            My guess is that this comes from a misunderstanding that the obelus sign is forbidden in a lot of standards. But that’s because it can be confused with other symbols and operations and not because the order of operations is somehow unclear.
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          What is your source for the priority of the / operator?\n
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          i.e. why do you say 6 / 2 * 3 is unambiguous?\n
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          Every source I’ve seen states that multiplication and division are equal priority operations. And one should clarify, either with a fraction bar (preferably) or parentheses if the order would make a difference.
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      Will you accept wolfram alpha as credible source?\n
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        I mean the blog post says\n
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    The blog post claims it is popular in academy, if that is a deserved label, then I don’t understand how the author of the post lands on “there is no good or bad way, they are all valid”. I am in favor of strong juxtaposition but that is not the case that I am making here. Sorry for the confusion.
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