Symfony Profiler

Key	Value
provider	security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context	main
entry_point	App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker	App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler	(none)
access_denied_url	(none)
authenticators	[`"two_factor" "remember_me" "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator" "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator" "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator" "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator" "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"`]

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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584`-authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}`}	0.00 ms	(none)
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#	Voter class
1	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2	"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4	"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5	"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6	"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7	"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8	"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9	"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10	"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11	"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12	"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13	"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14	"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

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App\Entity\EntryComment {#2321
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    Thanks.\n
    \n
    I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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    \n
    [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
    \n
    Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
    \n
    First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
    \n
    Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
    \n
    [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
    \n
    I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
    \n
    You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
    \n
    I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
    \n
    I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
    """
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    Thanks.\n
    \n
    I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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    I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
    \n
    [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
    \n
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    \n
    First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
    \n
    Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
    \n
    [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
    \n
    I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
    \n
    You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
    \n
    I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
    \n
    I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
    """
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    Thanks.\n
    \n
    I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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    I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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    [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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    Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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    First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
    \n
    Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
    \n
    [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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    I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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    You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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    I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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    > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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    Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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    > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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    Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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    > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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    Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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    > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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    Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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    > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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    False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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