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Security

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Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
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authenticators
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Authenticators

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
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4
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5
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
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"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
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Access decision log

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ACCESS DENIED
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
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      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
      **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
      \n
      **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
      \n
      **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
      \n
      **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
      \n
      **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
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      \n
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      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
      \n
      - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
      - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
      - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
      - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
      \n
      [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
      \n
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS DENIED
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
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      ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
      **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
      \n
      **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
      \n
      **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
      \n
      **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
      \n
      **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
      \n
      - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
      - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
      - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
      - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
      \n
      [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
      \n
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS DENIED
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
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4 DENIED moderate
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      ##### ⚓ Community devoted to in-depth debate on topics concerning digital piracy, ethical problems, and legal advancements.\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      ### Rules • [Full Version](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
      **1**. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy\n
      \n
      **2**. Don’t request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote\n
      \n
      **3**. Don’t request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs\n
      \n
      **4**. Don’t submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others\n
      \n
      **5**. Don’t post questions already answered. READ THE [WIKI](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      [![](https://a.imagem.app/oZoQ1v.png)](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/10901)\n
      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------\n
      \n
      ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
      \n
      - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
      - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
      - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
      - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
      \n
      ---\n
      \n
      💰 Please help cover server costs.\n
      \n
      [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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    It’s one of those things where paying in advance is not a good idea because of how sketch it can be. And you should not use identifiable information when creating an account or paying. E.g. a good provider only accepts crypto.\n
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    The only wholesaler I’m currently aware of has been operating for 5+ years the length I’ve been aware of their existence. So there’s definitely trustworthy providers out there. I have no idea how to research good providers since IPTV talk gets shut down every where.
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        ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
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        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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        [![Ko-Fi](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/4a2f073a-3dd8-492a-942d-72bd929c9f1d.png)](https://ko-fi.com/dbzer0)[![Liberapay](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/eec4659d-39be-4fc9-bc9e-66a96285ea2c.png)](https://liberapay.com/db0/)\n
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    It’s one of those things where paying in advance is not a good idea because of how sketch it can be. And you should not use identifiable information when creating an account or paying. E.g. a good provider only accepts crypto.\n
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      It’s one of those things where paying in advance is not a good idea because of how sketch it can be. And you should not use identifiable information when creating an account or paying. E.g. a good provider only accepts crypto.\n
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      The only wholesaler I’m currently aware of has been operating for 5+ years the length I’ve been aware of their existence. So there’s definitely trustworthy providers out there. I have no idea how to research good providers since IPTV talk gets shut down every where.
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      It’s one of those things where paying in advance is not a good idea because of how sketch it can be. And you should not use identifiable information when creating an account or paying. E.g. a good provider only accepts crypto.\n
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    The only people who need to know who the originating sources are are the wholesalers, and I’m pretty sure at that level they have a good sense of who is originating or not. Or maybe they also don’t care as long as it works and the price is right.\n
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    The only people who need to know who the originating sources are are the wholesalers, and I’m pretty sure at that level they have a good sense of who is originating or not. Or maybe they also don’t care as long as it works and the price is right.\n
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        ### Loot, Pillage, & Plunder\n
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        - [📜 Megathread](https://rentry.co/megathread)\n
        - [🪶 FAQ](https://rentry.co/piracy-faq)\n
        - [🪶 ISP Complaints](https://rentry.co/piracy-isp-complaints)\n
        - [🪶 Rules](https://rentry.co/piracy-rules)\n
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