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      Edit: formatting
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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      Your options are reduced to the following:\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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      Edit: formatting
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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      Your options are reduced to the following:\n
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        Edit history:\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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      Your options are reduced to the following:\n
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      Edit: formatting
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        Edit history:\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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      Your options are reduced to the following:\n
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      Edit: formatting
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        Your options are reduced to the following:\n
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        Linux only package manager that works across distros. It supports sandboxing via bubblewrap, but be cautious because by default most programs in Flathub are not as sandboxed as they should. You can host your own repository but it is heavily centralized towards Flathub, controlled by Red Hat, IBM.\n
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        [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ohvur/nix_vs_snap_vs_flatpak_what_are_the_differences/)\n
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        Edit: formatting
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        Edit: formatting
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        multi distro package manager with reproducible builds support, more akin to a traditional package manager (eg apt)\n
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        > Snappy and Flatpak talk about how they make library versions work better together and blabla and how they solve a lot of issues but that’s just a praetext, the real elephant in the room is that they are a big wink to proprietary software, they were designed for that, they just can’t say it so they focus on other things in their PR statements.\n
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        > How Nix and Guix work is that they are traditional “package managers” as such the user or the distributor must have access to the source code to compile it into a package, the interesting difference is that it is capable of keeping library versions apart and will automatically share libraries if they are exactly the same. But packaging still occurs downstream, not upstream.\n
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          \n
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          \n
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          Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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          Edit: formatting
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          Linux only package manager that works across distros. It supports sandboxing via bubblewrap, but be cautious because by default most programs in Flathub are not as sandboxed as they should. You can host your own repository but it is heavily centralized towards Flathub, controlled by Red Hat, IBM.\n
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          Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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          Edit: formatting
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        Edit history:\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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          Your options are reduced to the following:\n
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          ### **Flatpak**\n
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          Linux only package manager that works across distros. It supports sandboxing via bubblewrap, but be cautious because by default most programs in Flathub are not as sandboxed as they should. You can host your own repository but it is heavily centralized towards Flathub, controlled by Red Hat, IBM.\n
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          [source](https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/Similar-projects) (incredibly biased towards AppImage)\n
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          Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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          > Snappy and Flatpak talk about how they make library versions work better together and blabla and how they solve a lot of issues but that’s just a praetext, the real elephant in the room is that they are a big wink to proprietary software, they were designed for that, they just can’t say it so they focus on other things in their PR statements.\n
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          [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ohvur/nix_vs_snap_vs_flatpak_what_are_the_differences/)\n
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          Edit: formatting
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          Your options are reduced to the following:\n
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          Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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          Edit: formatting
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          Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        Edit history:\n
        \n
        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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          Your options are reduced to the following:\n
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          ### **Flatpak**\n
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          Linux only package manager that works across distros. It supports sandboxing via bubblewrap, but be cautious because by default most programs in Flathub are not as sandboxed as they should. You can host your own repository but it is heavily centralized towards Flathub, controlled by Red Hat, IBM.\n
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          [source](https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/Similar-projects) (incredibly biased towards AppImage)\n
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          Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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          > Snappy and Flatpak talk about how they make library versions work better together and blabla and how they solve a lot of issues but that’s just a praetext, the real elephant in the room is that they are a big wink to proprietary software, they were designed for that, they just can’t say it so they focus on other things in their PR statements.\n
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          [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ohvur/nix_vs_snap_vs_flatpak_what_are_the_differences/)\n
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          Edit: formatting
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        Edit history:\n
        \n
        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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          Your options are reduced to the following:\n
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          ### **Flatpak**\n
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          > Flatpak uses OSTree to distribute and deploy data. The repositories it uses are OSTree repositories and can be manipulated with the ostree utility. Installed runtimes and applications are OSTree checkouts.\n
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          > An AppImage is basically a self-mounting disk image that contains an application and everything the application needs to run on the target systems\n
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          [source](https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/Similar-projects) (incredibly biased towards AppImage)\n
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          \n
          Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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          ### **Nix/Guix**\n
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          multi distro package manager with reproducible builds support, more akin to a traditional package manager (eg apt)\n
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          > Snappy and Flatpak talk about how they make library versions work better together and blabla and how they solve a lot of issues but that’s just a praetext, the real elephant in the room is that they are a big wink to proprietary software, they were designed for that, they just can’t say it so they focus on other things in their PR statements.\n
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          > How Nix and Guix work is that they are traditional “package managers” as such the user or the distributor must have access to the source code to compile it into a package, the interesting difference is that it is capable of keeping library versions apart and will automatically share libraries if they are exactly the same. But packaging still occurs downstream, not upstream.\n
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          > Snappy and Flatpak allow packaging to occur completely upstream at the developers side, which means they no longer have to cough up source code to whomever who will package. Which leads to an inferior solution to the user with far higher memory and storage consumption.\n
          \n
          [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ohvur/nix_vs_snap_vs_flatpak_what_are_the_differences/)\n
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          ### **Pkgsrc**\n
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          this one is something in between Nix and traditional package managers. It’s main advantage is that it works in other UNIX-like OSs, like FreeBSD, NetBSD, IllumOS as well as in Linux. The only not Linux specific option in this list (other than docker, which is not a package manager but a container)\n
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          I wouldn’t recommend this one, since it requires packaging a whole OS that creates a lot of overhead. And it can be tricky to use with GUI programs.\n
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          Overall, I think that Nix/Guix present the most advantages, with Pkgsrc being a less known close second and Flatpak being in the third position due to it’s relative popularity and overall advantages over snaps and docker. Docker might be decent option if it’s a program designed for servers, tho.\n
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          I’d also recommend that you add your program to the AUR, because even if it only works on Arch and Arch based distros, it’s incredibly easy to do and maintain as long as the building of your program doesn’t change drastically between versions.\n
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          Edit: formatting
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          Your options are reduced to the following:\n
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          Linux only package manager that works across distros. It supports sandboxing via bubblewrap, but be cautious because by default most programs in Flathub are not as sandboxed as they should. You can host your own repository but it is heavily centralized towards Flathub, controlled by Red Hat, IBM.\n
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          Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        Edit history:\n
        \n
        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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          Your options are reduced to the following:\n
          \n
          ### **Flatpak**\n
          \n
          Linux only package manager that works across distros. It supports sandboxing via bubblewrap, but be cautious because by default most programs in Flathub are not as sandboxed as they should. You can host your own repository but it is heavily centralized towards Flathub, controlled by Red Hat, IBM.\n
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          > Flatpak uses OSTree to distribute and deploy data. The repositories it uses are OSTree repositories and can be manipulated with the ostree utility. Installed runtimes and applications are OSTree checkouts.\n
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          > An AppImage is basically a self-mounting disk image that contains an application and everything the application needs to run on the target systems\n
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          [source](https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/Similar-projects) (incredibly biased towards AppImage)\n
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          \n
          Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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          ### **Nix/Guix**\n
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          multi distro package manager with reproducible builds support, more akin to a traditional package manager (eg apt)\n
          \n
          > Snappy and Flatpak talk about how they make library versions work better together and blabla and how they solve a lot of issues but that’s just a praetext, the real elephant in the room is that they are a big wink to proprietary software, they were designed for that, they just can’t say it so they focus on other things in their PR statements.\n
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          > How Nix and Guix work is that they are traditional “package managers” as such the user or the distributor must have access to the source code to compile it into a package, the interesting difference is that it is capable of keeping library versions apart and will automatically share libraries if they are exactly the same. But packaging still occurs downstream, not upstream.\n
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          > Snappy and Flatpak allow packaging to occur completely upstream at the developers side, which means they no longer have to cough up source code to whomever who will package. Which leads to an inferior solution to the user with far higher memory and storage consumption.\n
          \n
          [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ohvur/nix_vs_snap_vs_flatpak_what_are_the_differences/)\n
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          this one is something in between Nix and traditional package managers. It’s main advantage is that it works in other UNIX-like OSs, like FreeBSD, NetBSD, IllumOS as well as in Linux. The only not Linux specific option in this list (other than docker, which is not a package manager but a container)\n
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          I wouldn’t recommend this one, since it requires packaging a whole OS that creates a lot of overhead. And it can be tricky to use with GUI programs.\n
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          Overall, I think that Nix/Guix present the most advantages, with Pkgsrc being a less known close second and Flatpak being in the third position due to it’s relative popularity and overall advantages over snaps and docker. Docker might be decent option if it’s a program designed for servers, tho.\n
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          Edit: formatting
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      I believe Pkgsrc compiles the program at install, so it’s native. But it’s been a long time since I used it, you might need to look into it.\n
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          Your options are reduced to the following:\n
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          Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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      I believe Pkgsrc compiles the program at install, so it’s native. But it’s been a long time since I used it, you might need to look into it.\n
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        Edit history:\n
        \n
        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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          Your options are reduced to the following:\n
          \n
          ### **Flatpak**\n
          \n
          Linux only package manager that works across distros. It supports sandboxing via bubblewrap, but be cautious because by default most programs in Flathub are not as sandboxed as they should. You can host your own repository but it is heavily centralized towards Flathub, controlled by Red Hat, IBM.\n
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          > Flatpak uses OSTree to distribute and deploy data. The repositories it uses are OSTree repositories and can be manipulated with the ostree utility. Installed runtimes and applications are OSTree checkouts.\n
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          You’re basically packaging your program and every single dependency up to the C library. Linux only.\n
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          > An AppImage is basically a self-mounting disk image that contains an application and everything the application needs to run on the target systems\n
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          [source](https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/Similar-projects) (incredibly biased towards AppImage)\n
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          Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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          multi distro package manager with reproducible builds support, more akin to a traditional package manager (eg apt)\n
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          > Snappy and Flatpak talk about how they make library versions work better together and blabla and how they solve a lot of issues but that’s just a praetext, the real elephant in the room is that they are a big wink to proprietary software, they were designed for that, they just can’t say it so they focus on other things in their PR statements.\n
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          > How Nix and Guix work is that they are traditional “package managers” as such the user or the distributor must have access to the source code to compile it into a package, the interesting difference is that it is capable of keeping library versions apart and will automatically share libraries if they are exactly the same. But packaging still occurs downstream, not upstream.\n
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          > Snappy and Flatpak allow packaging to occur completely upstream at the developers side, which means they no longer have to cough up source code to whomever who will package. Which leads to an inferior solution to the user with far higher memory and storage consumption.\n
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          [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ohvur/nix_vs_snap_vs_flatpak_what_are_the_differences/)\n
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          this one is something in between Nix and traditional package managers. It’s main advantage is that it works in other UNIX-like OSs, like FreeBSD, NetBSD, IllumOS as well as in Linux. The only not Linux specific option in this list (other than docker, which is not a package manager but a container)\n
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          I wouldn’t recommend this one, since it requires packaging a whole OS that creates a lot of overhead. And it can be tricky to use with GUI programs.\n
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          Overall, I think that Nix/Guix present the most advantages, with Pkgsrc being a less known close second and Flatpak being in the third position due to it’s relative popularity and overall advantages over snaps and docker. Docker might be decent option if it’s a program designed for servers, tho.\n
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          I’d also recommend that you add your program to the AUR, because even if it only works on Arch and Arch based distros, it’s incredibly easy to do and maintain as long as the building of your program doesn’t change drastically between versions.\n
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          Edit: formatting
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      I believe Pkgsrc compiles the program at install, so it’s native. But it’s been a long time since I used it, you might need to look into it.\n
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      And you’ll have a hard time finding a “native” package format, because distros have different libraries versions: arch libraries will be much more updated than Debian’s, so things might break trying to execute programs depending on those libraries. That’s why Flatpak, AppImages, Nix, etc bring their own libraries, because if they don’t, things will break.\n
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        Edit history:\n
        \n
        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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          Your options are reduced to the following:\n
          \n
          ### **Flatpak**\n
          \n
          Linux only package manager that works across distros. It supports sandboxing via bubblewrap, but be cautious because by default most programs in Flathub are not as sandboxed as they should. You can host your own repository but it is heavily centralized towards Flathub, controlled by Red Hat, IBM.\n
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          > Flatpak uses OSTree to distribute and deploy data. The repositories it uses are OSTree repositories and can be manipulated with the ostree utility. Installed runtimes and applications are OSTree checkouts.\n
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          You’re basically packaging your program and every single dependency up to the C library. Linux only.\n
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          [source](https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/Similar-projects) (incredibly biased towards AppImage)\n
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          Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
          \n
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          > Snappy and Flatpak talk about how they make library versions work better together and blabla and how they solve a lot of issues but that’s just a praetext, the real elephant in the room is that they are a big wink to proprietary software, they were designed for that, they just can’t say it so they focus on other things in their PR statements.\n
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          > How Nix and Guix work is that they are traditional “package managers” as such the user or the distributor must have access to the source code to compile it into a package, the interesting difference is that it is capable of keeping library versions apart and will automatically share libraries if they are exactly the same. But packaging still occurs downstream, not upstream.\n
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          > Snappy and Flatpak allow packaging to occur completely upstream at the developers side, which means they no longer have to cough up source code to whomever who will package. Which leads to an inferior solution to the user with far higher memory and storage consumption.\n
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          [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ohvur/nix_vs_snap_vs_flatpak_what_are_the_differences/)\n
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          this one is something in between Nix and traditional package managers. It’s main advantage is that it works in other UNIX-like OSs, like FreeBSD, NetBSD, IllumOS as well as in Linux. The only not Linux specific option in this list (other than docker, which is not a package manager but a container)\n
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          I wouldn’t recommend this one, since it requires packaging a whole OS that creates a lot of overhead. And it can be tricky to use with GUI programs.\n
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          Overall, I think that Nix/Guix present the most advantages, with Pkgsrc being a less known close second and Flatpak being in the third position due to it’s relative popularity and overall advantages over snaps and docker. Docker might be decent option if it’s a program designed for servers, tho.\n
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          Edit: formatting
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      I believe Pkgsrc compiles the program at install, so it’s native. But it’s been a long time since I used it, you might need to look into it.\n
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      And you’ll have a hard time finding a “native” package format, because distros have different libraries versions: arch libraries will be much more updated than Debian’s, so things might break trying to execute programs depending on those libraries. That’s why Flatpak, AppImages, Nix, etc bring their own libraries, because if they don’t, things will break.\n
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        Edit history:\n
        \n
        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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          Your options are reduced to the following:\n
          \n
          ### **Flatpak**\n
          \n
          Linux only package manager that works across distros. It supports sandboxing via bubblewrap, but be cautious because by default most programs in Flathub are not as sandboxed as they should. You can host your own repository but it is heavily centralized towards Flathub, controlled by Red Hat, IBM.\n
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          > Flatpak uses OSTree to distribute and deploy data. The repositories it uses are OSTree repositories and can be manipulated with the ostree utility. Installed runtimes and applications are OSTree checkouts.\n
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          > An AppImage is basically a self-mounting disk image that contains an application and everything the application needs to run on the target systems\n
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          [source](https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/Similar-projects) (incredibly biased towards AppImage)\n
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          Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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          > Snappy and Flatpak talk about how they make library versions work better together and blabla and how they solve a lot of issues but that’s just a praetext, the real elephant in the room is that they are a big wink to proprietary software, they were designed for that, they just can’t say it so they focus on other things in their PR statements.\n
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          > How Nix and Guix work is that they are traditional “package managers” as such the user or the distributor must have access to the source code to compile it into a package, the interesting difference is that it is capable of keeping library versions apart and will automatically share libraries if they are exactly the same. But packaging still occurs downstream, not upstream.\n
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          > Snappy and Flatpak allow packaging to occur completely upstream at the developers side, which means they no longer have to cough up source code to whomever who will package. Which leads to an inferior solution to the user with far higher memory and storage consumption.\n
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          [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ohvur/nix_vs_snap_vs_flatpak_what_are_the_differences/)\n
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          this one is something in between Nix and traditional package managers. It’s main advantage is that it works in other UNIX-like OSs, like FreeBSD, NetBSD, IllumOS as well as in Linux. The only not Linux specific option in this list (other than docker, which is not a package manager but a container)\n
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          I wouldn’t recommend this one, since it requires packaging a whole OS that creates a lot of overhead. And it can be tricky to use with GUI programs.\n
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          Edit: formatting
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      I believe Pkgsrc compiles the program at install, so it’s native. But it’s been a long time since I used it, you might need to look into it.\n
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      They are native in the sense that they are Linux executables, but it’s true that they bring their own dependencies, but as I said, that’s necessary for cross distro support.
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        Edit history:\n
        \n
        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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          Your options are reduced to the following:\n
          \n
          ### **Flatpak**\n
          \n
          Linux only package manager that works across distros. It supports sandboxing via bubblewrap, but be cautious because by default most programs in Flathub are not as sandboxed as they should. You can host your own repository but it is heavily centralized towards Flathub, controlled by Red Hat, IBM.\n
          \n
          > Flatpak uses OSTree to distribute and deploy data. The repositories it uses are OSTree repositories and can be manipulated with the ostree utility. Installed runtimes and applications are OSTree checkouts.\n
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          ### **AppImage**\n
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          You’re basically packaging your program and every single dependency up to the C library. Linux only.\n
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          > An AppImage is basically a self-mounting disk image that contains an application and everything the application needs to run on the target systems\n
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          [source](https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/Similar-projects) (incredibly biased towards AppImage)\n
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          ### **Snap**\n
          \n
          Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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          ### **Nix/Guix**\n
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          multi distro package manager with reproducible builds support, more akin to a traditional package manager (eg apt)\n
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          > Snappy and Flatpak talk about how they make library versions work better together and blabla and how they solve a lot of issues but that’s just a praetext, the real elephant in the room is that they are a big wink to proprietary software, they were designed for that, they just can’t say it so they focus on other things in their PR statements.\n
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          > How Nix and Guix work is that they are traditional “package managers” as such the user or the distributor must have access to the source code to compile it into a package, the interesting difference is that it is capable of keeping library versions apart and will automatically share libraries if they are exactly the same. But packaging still occurs downstream, not upstream.\n
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          > Snappy and Flatpak allow packaging to occur completely upstream at the developers side, which means they no longer have to cough up source code to whomever who will package. Which leads to an inferior solution to the user with far higher memory and storage consumption.\n
          \n
          [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ohvur/nix_vs_snap_vs_flatpak_what_are_the_differences/)\n
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          ### **Pkgsrc**\n
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          this one is something in between Nix and traditional package managers. It’s main advantage is that it works in other UNIX-like OSs, like FreeBSD, NetBSD, IllumOS as well as in Linux. The only not Linux specific option in this list (other than docker, which is not a package manager but a container)\n
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          I wouldn’t recommend this one, since it requires packaging a whole OS that creates a lot of overhead. And it can be tricky to use with GUI programs.\n
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          Overall, I think that Nix/Guix present the most advantages, with Pkgsrc being a less known close second and Flatpak being in the third position due to it’s relative popularity and overall advantages over snaps and docker. Docker might be decent option if it’s a program designed for servers, tho.\n
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          I’d also recommend that you add your program to the AUR, because even if it only works on Arch and Arch based distros, it’s incredibly easy to do and maintain as long as the building of your program doesn’t change drastically between versions.\n
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          Edit: formatting
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      I believe Pkgsrc compiles the program at install, so it’s native. But it’s been a long time since I used it, you might need to look into it.\n
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      And you’ll have a hard time finding a “native” package format, because distros have different libraries versions: arch libraries will be much more updated than Debian’s, so things might break trying to execute programs depending on those libraries. That’s why Flatpak, AppImages, Nix, etc bring their own libraries, because if they don’t, things will break.\n
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      They are native in the sense that they are Linux executables, but it’s true that they bring their own dependencies, but as I said, that’s necessary for cross distro support.
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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        Your options are reduced to the following:\n
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        [source](https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/Similar-projects) (incredibly biased towards AppImage)\n
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        Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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        > Snappy and Flatpak talk about how they make library versions work better together and blabla and how they solve a lot of issues but that’s just a praetext, the real elephant in the room is that they are a big wink to proprietary software, they were designed for that, they just can’t say it so they focus on other things in their PR statements.\n
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        > How Nix and Guix work is that they are traditional “package managers” as such the user or the distributor must have access to the source code to compile it into a package, the interesting difference is that it is capable of keeping library versions apart and will automatically share libraries if they are exactly the same. But packaging still occurs downstream, not upstream.\n
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        > Snappy and Flatpak allow packaging to occur completely upstream at the developers side, which means they no longer have to cough up source code to whomever who will package. Which leads to an inferior solution to the user with far higher memory and storage consumption.\n
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        [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ohvur/nix_vs_snap_vs_flatpak_what_are_the_differences/)\n
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        Edit: formatting
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        Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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        Your options are reduced to the following:\n
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        [source](https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/Similar-projects) (incredibly biased towards AppImage)\n
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        Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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        > Snappy and Flatpak talk about how they make library versions work better together and blabla and how they solve a lot of issues but that’s just a praetext, the real elephant in the room is that they are a big wink to proprietary software, they were designed for that, they just can’t say it so they focus on other things in their PR statements.\n
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        [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ohvur/nix_vs_snap_vs_flatpak_what_are_the_differences/)\n
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        Edit: formatting
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        Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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        Your options are reduced to the following:\n
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        Edit: formatting
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        Edit history:\n
        \n
        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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        Your options are reduced to the following:\n
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        ### **Flatpak**\n
        \n
        Linux only package manager that works across distros. It supports sandboxing via bubblewrap, but be cautious because by default most programs in Flathub are not as sandboxed as they should. You can host your own repository but it is heavily centralized towards Flathub, controlled by Red Hat, IBM.\n
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        > Flatpak uses OSTree to distribute and deploy data. The repositories it uses are OSTree repositories and can be manipulated with the ostree utility. Installed runtimes and applications are OSTree checkouts.\n
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        > An AppImage is basically a self-mounting disk image that contains an application and everything the application needs to run on the target systems\n
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        [source](https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/Similar-projects) (incredibly biased towards AppImage)\n
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        Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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        > Snappy and Flatpak talk about how they make library versions work better together and blabla and how they solve a lot of issues but that’s just a praetext, the real elephant in the room is that they are a big wink to proprietary software, they were designed for that, they just can’t say it so they focus on other things in their PR statements.\n
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        [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ohvur/nix_vs_snap_vs_flatpak_what_are_the_differences/)\n
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        Edit: formatting
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        \n
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        Linux only package manager that works across distros. It supports sandboxing via bubblewrap, but be cautious because by default most programs in Flathub are not as sandboxed as they should. You can host your own repository but it is heavily centralized towards Flathub, controlled by Red Hat, IBM.\n
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        this one is something in between Nix and traditional package managers. It’s main advantage is that it works in other UNIX-like OSs, like FreeBSD, NetBSD, IllumOS as well as in Linux. The only not Linux specific option in this list (other than docker, which is not a package manager but a container)\n
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        Edit: formatting
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        Edit: formatting
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        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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        Edit history:\n
        \n
        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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        Your options are reduced to the following:\n
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        ### **Flatpak**\n
        \n
        Linux only package manager that works across distros. It supports sandboxing via bubblewrap, but be cautious because by default most programs in Flathub are not as sandboxed as they should. You can host your own repository but it is heavily centralized towards Flathub, controlled by Red Hat, IBM.\n
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        > Flatpak uses OSTree to distribute and deploy data. The repositories it uses are OSTree repositories and can be manipulated with the ostree utility. Installed runtimes and applications are OSTree checkouts.\n
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        > An AppImage is basically a self-mounting disk image that contains an application and everything the application needs to run on the target systems\n
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        [source](https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/Similar-projects) (incredibly biased towards AppImage)\n
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        Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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        > Snappy and Flatpak talk about how they make library versions work better together and blabla and how they solve a lot of issues but that’s just a praetext, the real elephant in the room is that they are a big wink to proprietary software, they were designed for that, they just can’t say it so they focus on other things in their PR statements.\n
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        [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ohvur/nix_vs_snap_vs_flatpak_what_are_the_differences/)\n
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        Edit: formatting
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        Linux only package manager that works across distros. It supports sandboxing via bubblewrap, but be cautious because by default most programs in Flathub are not as sandboxed as they should. You can host your own repository but it is heavily centralized towards Flathub, controlled by Red Hat, IBM.\n
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        Canonical’s take at flatpaks. They are quite similar, but snaps use AppArmor instead of bubblewrap and the server is proprietary, so an inferior option and should be avoided. The only “advantage” is that it’s used by default in Ubuntu.\n
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        > Snappy and Flatpak talk about how they make library versions work better together and blabla and how they solve a lot of issues but that’s just a praetext, the real elephant in the room is that they are a big wink to proprietary software, they were designed for that, they just can’t say it so they focus on other things in their PR statements.\n
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        [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ohvur/nix_vs_snap_vs_flatpak_what_are_the_differences/)\n
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        this one is something in between Nix and traditional package managers. It’s main advantage is that it works in other UNIX-like OSs, like FreeBSD, NetBSD, IllumOS as well as in Linux. The only not Linux specific option in this list (other than docker, which is not a package manager but a container)\n
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        Edit: formatting
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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          - [!technology@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/technology)\n
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          Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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        Although I have surface level knowledge only, [electron](https://www.electronjs.org) for node can handle cross platform packaging.\n
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          ### Related Communities\n
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          - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
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          - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
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          Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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          - [!opensource@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/opensource)\n
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          - [!libre_hardware@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_hardware)\n
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          Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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        Although I have surface level knowledge only, [electron](https://www.electronjs.org) for node can handle cross platform packaging.\n
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          Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        Although I have surface level knowledge only, [electron](https://www.electronjs.org) for node can handle cross platform packaging.\n
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      no, not at all.\n
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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          Although I have surface level knowledge only, [electron](https://www.electronjs.org) for node can handle cross platform packaging.\n
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          Your solution might depend on what you’re building too though obviously.
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        no, not at all.\n
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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          Although I have surface level knowledge only, [electron](https://www.electronjs.org) for node can handle cross platform packaging.\n
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          Your solution might depend on what you’re building too though obviously.
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        no, not at all.\n
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        electron is a framework, and a shitty one if I might say so, it’s cross platform but it’s not a way to package for multiple distros. You still need to package the electron program in either the native package manager (apt, pacman, etc) or a distro-agnostic one (flatpak, appimage, snap).
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          Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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          Although I have surface level knowledge only, [electron](https://www.electronjs.org) for node can handle cross platform packaging.\n
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        no, not at all.\n
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          Community icon by [Alpár-Etele Méder](https://www.iconfinder.com/pocike), licensed under [CC BY 3.0](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/)
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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          Although I have surface level knowledge only, [electron](https://www.electronjs.org) for node can handle cross platform packaging.\n
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        no, not at all.\n
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        electron is a framework, and a shitty one if I might say so, it’s cross platform but it’s not a way to package for multiple distros. You still need to package the electron program in either the native package manager (apt, pacman, etc) or a distro-agnostic one (flatpak, appimage, snap).
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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            Although I have surface level knowledge only, [electron](https://www.electronjs.org) for node can handle cross platform packaging.\n
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            Your solution might depend on what you’re building too though obviously.
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          no, not at all.\n
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      but it is not an option. It’s not a tool for packaging programs.\n
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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            Although I have surface level knowledge only, [electron](https://www.electronjs.org) for node can handle cross platform packaging.\n
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            Your solution might depend on what you’re building too though obviously.
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          no, not at all.\n
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      but it is not an option. It’s not a tool for packaging programs.\n
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      It’s a framework for programs to have their GUI wrapped inside a browser, so they are cross platform.\n
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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            Although I have surface level knowledge only, [electron](https://www.electronjs.org) for node can handle cross platform packaging.\n
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            Your solution might depend on what you’re building too though obviously.
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          no, not at all.\n
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      but it is not an option. It’s not a tool for packaging programs.\n
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Change title from “How to package software for many distributions?” to "How to package software for many distributions in their native package format?"\n
        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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            Although I have surface level knowledge only, [electron](https://www.electronjs.org) for node can handle cross platform packaging.\n
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            Your solution might depend on what you’re building too though obviously.
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          no, not at all.\n
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      but it is not an option. It’s not a tool for packaging programs.\n
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      It’s a framework for programs to have their GUI wrapped inside a browser, so they are cross platform.\n
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        What solutions out there can package software in the *native* package format? I only found [fpm (effing package management)](https://fpm.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) and [OBS (Open Build Service)](https://openbuildservice.org/) so far.\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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            Although I have surface level knowledge only, [electron](https://www.electronjs.org) for node can handle cross platform packaging.\n
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            Your solution might depend on what you’re building too though obviously.
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      but it is not an option. It’s not a tool for packaging programs.\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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            Although I have surface level knowledge only, [electron](https://www.electronjs.org) for node can handle cross platform packaging.\n
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            Your solution might depend on what you’re building too though obviously.
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      but it is not an option. It’s not a tool for packaging programs.\n
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      It’s a framework for programs to have their GUI wrapped inside a browser, so they are cross platform.\n
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        - 2023-11-02: Highlight the word native.
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            Although I have surface level knowledge only, [electron](https://www.electronjs.org) for node can handle cross platform packaging.\n
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            Your solution might depend on what you’re building too though obviously.
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          no, not at all.\n
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      but it is not an option. It’s not a tool for packaging programs.\n
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            Although I have surface level knowledge only, [electron](https://www.electronjs.org) for node can handle cross platform packaging.\n
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            Your solution might depend on what you’re building too though obviously.
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          no, not at all.\n
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          electron is a framework, and a shitty one if I might say so, it’s cross platform but it’s not a way to package for multiple distros. You still need to package the electron program in either the native package manager (apt, pacman, etc) or a distro-agnostic one (flatpak, appimage, snap).
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      but it is not an option. It’s not a tool for packaging programs.\n
      \n
      Building an electron program is no different than building it in GTK or QT in the sense that they are just the GUI toolkit and they do not do packaging.\n
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      It’s a framework for programs to have their GUI wrapped inside a browser, so they are cross platform.\n
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      But electron doesn’t create packages. You can package an electron program using Flatpak, snap, apt, AppImage, pacman, or whatever.
      """
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