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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
\n
[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
\n
[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses\n
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sure, but there are not enough people who want to eat soycake for the amount of oil that we produce. so giving it to animals is as good a use as any.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses\n
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sure, but there are not enough people who want to eat soycake for the amount of oil that we produce. so giving it to animals is as good a use as any.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses\n
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sure, but there are not enough people who want to eat soycake for the amount of oil that we produce. so giving it to animals is as good a use as any.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses\n
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sure, but there are not enough people who want to eat soycake for the amount of oil that we produce. so giving it to animals is as good a use as any.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses\n
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sure, but there are not enough people who want to eat soycake for the amount of oil that we produce. so giving it to animals is as good a use as any.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses\n
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sure, but there are not enough people who want to eat soycake for the amount of oil that we produce. so giving it to animals is as good a use as any.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses\n
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sure, but there are not enough people who want to eat soycake for the amount of oil that we produce. so giving it to animals is as good a use as any.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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+body: "what they asked is how many died for the bun. not whether you think that line of reasoning is sufficient to discourage veganism."
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses\n
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sure, but there are not enough people who want to eat soycake for the amount of oil that we produce. so giving it to animals is as good a use as any.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses\n
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sure, but there are not enough people who want to eat soycake for the amount of oil that we produce. so giving it to animals is as good a use as any.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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what does this have to do with what we are discussing, or how many mice were killed for that bun?
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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what does this have to do with what we are discussing, or how many mice were killed for that bun?
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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what does this have to do with what we are discussing, or how many mice were killed for that bun?
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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what does this have to do with what we are discussing, or how many mice were killed for that bun?
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Are you a human being, or a mechanistic formal debate bot? I’m informing you on a complex subject matter with many important interrelated issues that range everywhere from ethics, to personal health (yes that animal flesh is killing you), to environmental issues, and even the grave risk of pandemic potential.\n
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Your narrowmindedness is a symptom of typical carnist mental gymnastics.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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what does this have to do with what we are discussing, or how many mice were killed for that bun?
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Are you a human being, or a mechanistic formal debate bot? I’m informing you on a complex subject matter with many important interrelated issues that range everywhere from ethics, to personal health (yes that animal flesh is killing you), to environmental issues, and even the grave risk of pandemic potential.\n
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Your narrowmindedness is a symptom of typical carnist mental gymnastics.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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what does this have to do with what we are discussing, or how many mice were killed for that bun?
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Are you a human being, or a mechanistic formal debate bot? I’m informing you on a complex subject matter with many important interrelated issues that range everywhere from ethics, to personal health (yes that animal flesh is killing you), to environmental issues, and even the grave risk of pandemic potential.\n
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Your narrowmindedness is a symptom of typical carnist mental gymnastics.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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what does this have to do with what we are discussing, or how many mice were killed for that bun?
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Are you a human being, or a mechanistic formal debate bot? I’m informing you on a complex subject matter with many important interrelated issues that range everywhere from ethics, to personal health (yes that animal flesh is killing you), to environmental issues, and even the grave risk of pandemic potential.\n
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Your narrowmindedness is a symptom of typical carnist mental gymnastics.
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> I’m informing you on a complex subject matter\n
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no, you’re not.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
\n
[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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what does this have to do with what we are discussing, or how many mice were killed for that bun?
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Are you a human being, or a mechanistic formal debate bot? I’m informing you on a complex subject matter with many important interrelated issues that range everywhere from ethics, to personal health (yes that animal flesh is killing you), to environmental issues, and even the grave risk of pandemic potential.\n
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Your narrowmindedness is a symptom of typical carnist mental gymnastics.
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> I’m informing you on a complex subject matter\n
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no, you’re not.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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what does this have to do with what we are discussing, or how many mice were killed for that bun?
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Are you a human being, or a mechanistic formal debate bot? I’m informing you on a complex subject matter with many important interrelated issues that range everywhere from ethics, to personal health (yes that animal flesh is killing you), to environmental issues, and even the grave risk of pandemic potential.\n
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Your narrowmindedness is a symptom of typical carnist mental gymnastics.
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> I’m informing you on a complex subject matter\n
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no, you’re not.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works.\n
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the vast majority of soy (85%) is pressed for oil.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
\n
[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works.\n
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the vast majority of soy (85%) is pressed for oil.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works.\n
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the vast majority of soy (85%) is pressed for oil.
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> [ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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i’m so glad you used this. you can find this graph there that shows that almost all the soy we feed to animals is the industrial waste from oil production\n
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> [ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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i’m so glad you used this. you can find this graph there that shows that almost all the soy we feed to animals is the industrial waste from oil production\n
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link,\n
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Ed is quoting some pretty misleading statistics to support your point. if this is the best that you have, you might want to reconsider your position.
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about 85% of all soybeans are pressed for oil for human uses. but a soybean is only about 20% oil altogether. that leaves 69% of the soybeans as industrial waste. feeding that industrial waste to animals is actually conserving resources.\n
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so it’s not even true that the land used to make food for animals isn’t used to make food for people: it’s the same land.
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That makes no sense. Every part of a soybean can be made for human uses - textured vegetable protein (tvp) is de-fatted soy, for example. 7% of soy is going for human consumption, because that’s how much demand there is for it. Just as the vast majority of soy production is being used to raise animals for food, because that’s how the economics works. You can see the cited study and more in greater detail in this article - which also shows how cattle farming is in and of itself the single largest driver of Amazon deforestation.\n
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[ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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And this article is a primer on feed conversion ratios, which demonstrates why eating plants directly will always be fundamentally more efficient and better for the environment than raising animals for food ever can be.\n
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[pbs.org/…/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-mea…](https://www.pbs.org/wnet/peril-and-promise/2022/03/feed-conversion-ratios-help-explain-meats-outsized-climate-impact/)
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> [ourworldindata.org/soy](https://ourworldindata.org/soy)\n
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i’m so glad you used this. you can find this graph there that shows that almost all the soy we feed to animals is the industrial waste from oil production\n
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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All it takes is to think it through. If harvesting crops kills a lot of animals (which as the link shows, is already significantly less than some assholes made it up to be), then raising animals for food automatically kills even more animals because it takes way more crops to feed the animals that are raised for meat or dairy, than it takes to just feed humans directly.
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> If you had bothered to go to the link\n
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like I don’t know who earthling ed is
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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If you’re referring to crop deaths, you should know that nonsense has been so thoroughly debunked that anyone should feel embarrassed to be perpetuating that lie still.\n
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[surgeactivism.org/…/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-…](https://www.surgeactivism.org/articles/debunked-do-vegans-kill-more-animals-through-crop-deaths)
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Yes, and odds are they are asking as a way to bring up the idea of how many animals are killed in order to harvest plant crops. If you had bothered to go to the link, it would have at least somewhat answered your question because the short version is: *fundamentally, significantly less than the amount of animals killed to produce meat.*\n
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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My math was bad admittedly - I didn’t take into account that most or all of those patties likely came from the same processing facility; so that even if 100 body parts are in one patty, 100 patties might contain the tissues of the same 100 cows that were slaughtered. In all that table might be a picture of 100, 1,000, or 10,000 body parts mutilated beyond recognition and mixed together.\n
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My math was bad admittedly - I didn’t take into account that most or all of those patties likely came from the same processing facility; so that even if 100 body parts are in one patty, 100 patties might contain the tissues of the same 100 cows that were slaughtered. In all that table might be a picture of 100, 1,000, or 10,000 body parts mutilated beyond recognition and mixed together.\n
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My math was bad admittedly - I didn’t take into account that most or all of those patties likely came from the same processing facility; so that even if 100 body parts are in one patty, 100 patties might contain the tissues of the same 100 cows that were slaughtered. In all that table might be a picture of 100, 1,000, or 10,000 body parts mutilated beyond recognition and mixed together.\n
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My math was bad admittedly - I didn’t take into account that most or all of those patties likely came from the same processing facility; so that even if 100 body parts are in one patty, 100 patties might contain the tissues of the same 100 cows that were slaughtered. In all that table might be a picture of 100, 1,000, or 10,000 body parts mutilated beyond recognition and mixed together.\n
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How many burgers were served? Multiply that by a hundred to get an estimate of how many innocent cows were slaughtered for this circus. But sure, it being cheap food is the thing to complain about.\n
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[washingtonpost.com/…/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in…](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/08/05/there-are-a-lot-more-cows-in-a-single-hamburger-than-you-realize/)
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My math was bad admittedly - I didn’t take into account that most or all of those patties likely came from the same processing facility; so that even if 100 body parts are in one patty, 100 patties might contain the tissues of the same 100 cows that were slaughtered. In all that table might be a picture of 100, 1,000, or 10,000 body parts mutilated beyond recognition and mixed together.\n
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