GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/u/@Awoo@hexbear.net/active

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.201
Profiled on
Token
d0950c

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 7.50 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.07 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1629
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2825 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1630 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#3958 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3959 …}
  +slug: "Microsoft-says-a-Copilot-key-is-coming-to-keyboards-on"
  +title: "Microsoft says a Copilot key is coming to keyboards on Windows PCs starting this month"
  +url: "https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/04/microsoft-says-a-copilot-key-is-coming-soon-to-windows-pc-keyboards.html"
  +body: null
  +type: "link"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 197
  +favouriteCount: 323
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1722605614 {#3953
    date: 2024-08-02 15:33:34.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3968 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3970 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3972 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3974 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3976 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3978 …}
  +children: [
    1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1734
      +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1629 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1630 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1732 …}
      +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628
        +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
        +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1629 …2}
        +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1630 …}
        +image: null
        +parent: null
        +root: null
        +body: """
          Rebranded Cortana?\n
          \n
          Destined to fail.
          """
        +lang: "en"
        +isAdult: false
        +favouriteCount: 22
        +score: 0
        +lastActive: DateTime @1712417255 {#1599
          date: 2024-04-06 17:27:35.0 +02:00
        }
        +ip: null
        +tags: null
        +mentions: [
          "@mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml"
        ]
        +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1598 …}
        +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1616 …}
        +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1705 …}
        +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1692 …}
        +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1686 …}
        +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1680 …}
        -id: 284688
        -bodyTs: "'cortana':2 'destin':3 'fail':5 'rebrand':1"
        +ranking: 0
        +commentCount: 0
        +upVotes: 0
        +downVotes: 0
        +visibility: "visible             "
        +apId: "https://hexbear.net/comment/4450092"
        +editedAt: null
        +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704521026 {#1626
          date: 2024-01-06 07:03:46.0 +01:00
        }
        +"title": 284688
      }
      +body: """
        Chatgpt is just Cortana with better marketing. AI isn’t smart, it’s just algorithms producing a facsimile of language via pattern heatmaps. What was Cortana if not just an earlier version of the same thing?\n
        \n
        ““AI”” is all a techbro marketing bubble. Will burst and move on eventually.\n
        \n
        Like holy shit we had the autofill feature in Photoshop ages and ages ago and that’s just doing what the “intelligent” image generators do. We didn’t call it AI back then. All marketing for what amounts to just some interesting algorithms.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 12
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1704548791 {#1683
        date: 2024-01-06 14:46:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml"
        "@Awoo@hexbear.net"
        "@Michal@programming.dev"
        "@mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml"
        "@Awoo@hexbear.net"
        "@Michal@programming.dev"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1727 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1733 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1724 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1715 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1718 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1716 …}
      -id: 285443
      -bodyTs: "'age':60,62 'ago':63 'ai':8,37,80 'algorithm':15,92 'amount':87 'autofil':56 'back':81 'better':6 'bubbl':43 'burst':45 'call':78 'chatgpt':1 'cortana':4,26 'didn':76 'earlier':31 'eventu':49 'facsimil':18 'featur':57 'generat':73 'heatmap':23 'holi':51 'imag':72 'intellig':71 'interest':91 'isn':9 'languag':20 'like':50 'market':7,42,84 'move':47 'pattern':22 'photoshop':59 'produc':16 'shit':52 'smart':11 'techbro':41 'thing':36 'version':32 'via':21"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://hexbear.net/comment/4450941"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1712329311 {#1701
        date: 2024-04-05 17:01:51.0 +02:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704548791 {#1736
        date: 2024-01-06 14:46:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 285443
    }
    0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1628}
  ]
  -id: 27270
  -titleTs: "'come':7 'copilot':4 'key':5 'keyboard':9 'microsoft':1 'month':15 'pcs':12 'say':2 'start':13 'window':11"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1704487550
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/10123894"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704401150 {#3393
    date: 2024-01-04 21:45:50.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1629
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2825 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1630 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#3958 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3959 …}
  +slug: "Microsoft-says-a-Copilot-key-is-coming-to-keyboards-on"
  +title: "Microsoft says a Copilot key is coming to keyboards on Windows PCs starting this month"
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  +body: null
  +type: "link"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 197
  +favouriteCount: 323
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1722605614 {#3953
    date: 2024-08-02 15:33:34.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3968 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3970 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3972 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3974 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3976 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3978 …}
  +children: [
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      +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1629 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1630 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1732 …}
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        +user: App\Entity\User {#259 …}
        +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1629 …2}
        +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1630 …}
        +image: null
        +parent: null
        +root: null
        +body: """
          Rebranded Cortana?\n
          \n
          Destined to fail.
          """
        +lang: "en"
        +isAdult: false
        +favouriteCount: 22
        +score: 0
        +lastActive: DateTime @1712417255 {#1599
          date: 2024-04-06 17:27:35.0 +02:00
        }
        +ip: null
        +tags: null
        +mentions: [
          "@mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml"
        ]
        +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1598 …}
        +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1616 …}
        +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1705 …}
        +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1692 …}
        +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1686 …}
        +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1680 …}
        -id: 284688
        -bodyTs: "'cortana':2 'destin':3 'fail':5 'rebrand':1"
        +ranking: 0
        +commentCount: 0
        +upVotes: 0
        +downVotes: 0
        +visibility: "visible             "
        +apId: "https://hexbear.net/comment/4450092"
        +editedAt: null
        +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704521026 {#1626
          date: 2024-01-06 07:03:46.0 +01:00
        }
        +"title": 284688
      }
      +body: """
        Chatgpt is just Cortana with better marketing. AI isn’t smart, it’s just algorithms producing a facsimile of language via pattern heatmaps. What was Cortana if not just an earlier version of the same thing?\n
        \n
        ““AI”” is all a techbro marketing bubble. Will burst and move on eventually.\n
        \n
        Like holy shit we had the autofill feature in Photoshop ages and ages ago and that’s just doing what the “intelligent” image generators do. We didn’t call it AI back then. All marketing for what amounts to just some interesting algorithms.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 12
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1704548791 {#1683
        date: 2024-01-06 14:46:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml"
        "@Awoo@hexbear.net"
        "@Michal@programming.dev"
        "@mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml"
        "@Awoo@hexbear.net"
        "@Michal@programming.dev"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1727 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1733 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1724 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1715 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1718 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1716 …}
      -id: 285443
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
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      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://hexbear.net/comment/4450941"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1712329311 {#1701
        date: 2024-04-05 17:01:51.0 +02:00
      }
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        date: 2024-01-06 14:46:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 285443
    }
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  ]
  -id: 27270
  -titleTs: "'come':7 'copilot':4 'key':5 'keyboard':9 'microsoft':1 'month':15 'pcs':12 'say':2 'start':13 'window':11"
  -bodyTs: null
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  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1704487550
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/10123894"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704401150 {#3393
    date: 2024-01-04 21:45:50.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1629
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  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1630 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#3958 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3959 …}
  +slug: "Microsoft-says-a-Copilot-key-is-coming-to-keyboards-on"
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  +body: null
  +type: "link"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 197
  +favouriteCount: 323
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1722605614 {#3953
    date: 2024-08-02 15:33:34.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
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  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3968 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3970 …}
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  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3976 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3978 …}
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        +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1630 …}
        +image: null
        +parent: null
        +root: null
        +body: """
          Rebranded Cortana?\n
          \n
          Destined to fail.
          """
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        +lastActive: DateTime @1712417255 {#1599
          date: 2024-04-06 17:27:35.0 +02:00
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        +visibility: "visible             "
        +apId: "https://hexbear.net/comment/4450092"
        +editedAt: null
        +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1704521026 {#1626
          date: 2024-01-06 07:03:46.0 +01:00
        }
        +"title": 284688
      }
      +body: """
        Chatgpt is just Cortana with better marketing. AI isn’t smart, it’s just algorithms producing a facsimile of language via pattern heatmaps. What was Cortana if not just an earlier version of the same thing?\n
        \n
        ““AI”” is all a techbro marketing bubble. Will burst and move on eventually.\n
        \n
        Like holy shit we had the autofill feature in Photoshop ages and ages ago and that’s just doing what the “intelligent” image generators do. We didn’t call it AI back then. All marketing for what amounts to just some interesting algorithms.
        """
      +lang: "en"
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      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1704548791 {#1683
        date: 2024-01-06 14:46:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
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        I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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        We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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        It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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        Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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      +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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      +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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        > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
        \n
        As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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        I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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        Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
        \n
        I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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        If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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        I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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        Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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        Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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        > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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        Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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        Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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        Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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        Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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        You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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        This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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        Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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        Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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        Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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        > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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        This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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        You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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        I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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        > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
        \n
        This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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        The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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        Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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        This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
        \n
        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
        \n
        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
        \n
        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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        There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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        It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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        > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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        If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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        Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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        > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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        Boot tasty.
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        I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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        Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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        This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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        Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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        It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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        The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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        The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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        > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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        Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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      +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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      +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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        > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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        As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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        I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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        Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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        I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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        If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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        I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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        Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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        Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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        > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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        Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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        Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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        Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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        Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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        You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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        This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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        Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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        Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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        You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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        Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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        > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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        This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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        You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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        I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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        > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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        This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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        The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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        Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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        This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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        There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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        It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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        > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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        If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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        Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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        > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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        Boot tasty.
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        I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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        Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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        Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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        It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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        Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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      +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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        > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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        As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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        I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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        Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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        I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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        If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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        I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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        Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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        Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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        > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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        Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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        Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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        Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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        Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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        You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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        This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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        Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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        Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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        You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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        Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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        > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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        This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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        You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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        I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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        > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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        This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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        The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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        Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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        This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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        ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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        There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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        It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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        > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
          \n
          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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    Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
          \n
          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
          \n
          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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    Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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        +body: """
          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
          \n
          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
          \n
          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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    Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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    Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
          \n
          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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    I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          This method is a little extreme though tbh we usually just chuck paint on them. This one is tall in order to make that less viable it seems.
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
          \n
          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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    This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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    Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          This method is a little extreme though tbh we usually just chuck paint on them. This one is tall in order to make that less viable it seems.
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
          \n
          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
          \n
          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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        +body: "you have not listened to a word i’ve said lmao"
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
          \n
          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
          \n
          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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    This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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    Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
          \n
          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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    This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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    Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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    +body: "It’s insane the lengths that some people will go to save a few seconds on their commute, while also endangering others."
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
          \n
          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
          \n
          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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        +body: "you have not listened to a word i’ve said lmao"
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
          \n
          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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    The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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    The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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    > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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    Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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    The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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    The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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    > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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    Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          This method is a little extreme though tbh we usually just chuck paint on them. This one is tall in order to make that less viable it seems.
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
          \n
          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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    The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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    The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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    > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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    Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          This method is a little extreme though tbh we usually just chuck paint on them. This one is tall in order to make that less viable it seems.
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
          \n
          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
          \n
          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
          \n
          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
          \n
          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
          \n
          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
          \n
          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
          \n
          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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        +body: "you have not listened to a word i’ve said lmao"
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
          \n
          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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  +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
          \n
          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
          \n
          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
          \n
          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
          \n
          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
          \n
          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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  +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
          \n
          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
          \n
          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
          \n
          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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    As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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    I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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    As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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    I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
          \n
          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
          \n
          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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    As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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    I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
          \n
          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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    I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          This method is a little extreme though tbh we usually just chuck paint on them. This one is tall in order to make that less viable it seems.
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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        +body: "you have not listened to a word i’ve said lmao"
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
          \n
          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
          \n
          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
          \n
          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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    I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          This method is a little extreme though tbh we usually just chuck paint on them. This one is tall in order to make that less viable it seems.
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
          \n
          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
          \n
          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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    If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
          \n
          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
          \n
          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
          \n
          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
          \n
          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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    I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          This method is a little extreme though tbh we usually just chuck paint on them. This one is tall in order to make that less viable it seems.
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          date: 2024-06-24 06:22:44.0 +02:00
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
          \n
          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
          \n
          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
          """
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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    Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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        +body: """
          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
          \n
          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
          \n
          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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      13 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2087
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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    Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
          \n
          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
          """
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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        +body: "you have not listened to a word i’ve said lmao"
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
          \n
          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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    Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
          \n
          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
          \n
          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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    Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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    Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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    +body: "It’s insane the lengths that some people will go to save a few seconds on their commute, while also endangering others."
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          This method is a little extreme though tbh we usually just chuck paint on them. This one is tall in order to make that less viable it seems.
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
          \n
          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
          """
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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    Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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    Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
          \n
          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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    Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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    Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          This method is a little extreme though tbh we usually just chuck paint on them. This one is tall in order to make that less viable it seems.
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
          \n
          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
          \n
          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
          \n
          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
          \n
          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
          \n
          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
          \n
          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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    Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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    Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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    Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          This method is a little extreme though tbh we usually just chuck paint on them. This one is tall in order to make that less viable it seems.
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
          \n
          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
          \n
          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          date: 2024-06-24 06:22:44.0 +02:00
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        +body: """
          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
          \n
          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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        +body: """
          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
          \n
          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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        +body: """
          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
          \n
          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
          \n
          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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        +body: "you have not listened to a word i’ve said lmao"
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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    This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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    Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
          \n
          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
          \n
          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
          \n
          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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    This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
          \n
          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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        +body: "you have not listened to a word i’ve said lmao"
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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    This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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    Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
          \n
          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
          \n
          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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    You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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    +body: "It’s insane the lengths that some people will go to save a few seconds on their commute, while also endangering others."
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          This method is a little extreme though tbh we usually just chuck paint on them. This one is tall in order to make that less viable it seems.
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
          \n
          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
          \n
          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
          \n
          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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    You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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    You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          This method is a little extreme though tbh we usually just chuck paint on them. This one is tall in order to make that less viable it seems.
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
          \n
          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
          \n
          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
          \n
          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
          \n
          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
          \n
          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
          \n
          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
          \n
          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          This method is a little extreme though tbh we usually just chuck paint on them. This one is tall in order to make that less viable it seems.
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
          \n
          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
          \n
          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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    > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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    This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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    You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
          \n
          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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    > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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    This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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    You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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    > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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    This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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    You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
          \n
          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
          \n
          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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    > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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    This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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    The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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    Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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    This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
    \n
    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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    There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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    It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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    +body: "It’s insane the lengths that some people will go to save a few seconds on their commute, while also endangering others."
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
          \n
          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
          \n
          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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        +body: "you have not listened to a word i’ve said lmao"
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
          \n
          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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    > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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    This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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    The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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    Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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    This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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    There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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    It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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    > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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    This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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    The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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    Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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    This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
    \n
    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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    ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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    There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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    It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          This method is a little extreme though tbh we usually just chuck paint on them. This one is tall in order to make that less viable it seems.
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
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          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
          \n
          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
          \n
          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
          \n
          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
          \n
          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
          \n
          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
          """
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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        +body: "you have not listened to a word i’ve said lmao"
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
          \n
          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
          \n
          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
          """
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
          \n
          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
          \n
          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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    Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
          \n
          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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    > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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    If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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    Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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            Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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            When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
          \n
          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
          \n
          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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        +body: "you have not listened to a word i’ve said lmao"
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
          \n
          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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    Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
          \n
          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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    Lmao cutting down speed cameras is praxis. Jog on. These things are just there to make local councils money.\n
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    When they actually want a slower road they put speed bumps or traffic islands on it.
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          Destroying these cameras is a good thing. It either fucks over council revenue sources that mainly fuck the poor while affecting the rich not one bit, or it results in getting actual redesigns of the roads properly because they do actually want that road to be safer.\n
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          This method is a little extreme though tbh we usually just chuck paint on them. This one is tall in order to make that less viable it seems.
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        +body: "Eh? This is nowhere near Newport and it’s not a motorway either."
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          This praxis does two things, it prevents the poor being fucked over if these are just there to make council money, or it causes them to give up on the camera and properly redesign the road when it’s actually about real safety concerns.\n
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          Given this has happened before and they only replaced the camera I’m siding with “it’s for council income not actual safety”. If they do it again I feel doubley vindicated in that opinion. If it’s actually about real safety concerns they’ll give up on the camera and add in pedestrian refuge islands to slow traffic instead. Love these badboys\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/444e22c7-fba2-46cf-8892-15ffe06de8ee.png)
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          The cost of physical redesign traffic calming measures is significantly cheaper to install than the cameras, whose cost is justified by councils because of the income they bring in thereafter.\n
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          The insistence on replacing it instead of doing something else is being justified internally because even with these attacks they consider it to be making more than it’s costing them.\n
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          > Poor people aren’t getting screwed over by this because poor people can’t afford to drive,\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "Bus, train or taxi."
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
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          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
          \n
          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/2dde2d99-c535-4561-b731-55dc1cffcea1.png)\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/1ddc3303-df7d-4b14-bfe1-5e80ee991019.png)\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/d81cfff0-d030-4873-82aa-3ff60596a899.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5fa63dc3-bd1d-4b5a-93e1-9bbe4a350e8d.png)\n
          \n
          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/0421294d-ce9c-403b-abd6-e34c9ecbe716.png)#\n
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          ![](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/89d4af93-3457-4abb-9614-acbdf0dc0f23.png)\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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          > acting in a way that directly leads to people being hurt, maimed and / or traumatized\n
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          If that’s your benchmark then 90% of people should be considered criminal.\n
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          Out of interest do you support Israel and/or the continuation of the war in Ukraine or do you support ceasefires?
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          > TL;DR: If you do incriminating stuff, you should be incriminated.\n
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          Boot tasty.
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          I couldn’t care less. These cameras exist entirely to make councils money. When they actually want traffic slowed they redesign the road properly with traffic islands.\n
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          We live in material reality, not a fantasy in your head. Justifying bullshit that specifically fucks over the poor while not really affecting the rich (because fines are just fees you pay to break the law when you’re rich enough for them to be minor inconveniences) with what amounts to Cartman screaming RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH is bullshit. You want people to actually slow down? Redesign the road.\n
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          It literally says in this article that one of the cameras mentioned has clocked 17,000 people. Of course they have money to do it. [Croydon council responded to FOI request stating it costs £2.5-£3.5k](https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/the_costs_of_removing_and_instal) to install traffic islands. The cost of a speed camera installation on the other hand is [£85,000 according to Bedford Council](https://www.bedford.gov.uk/media/2895/download?inline#:~:text=As%20of%20Summer%202021%20the,approximately%20%C2%A35%2C000%20per%20annum.), with a £5000 annual upkeep cost.\n
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          Mate fuck right off. This statement just screams that you’ve never actually done any organising or volunteering with the poor in the UK. Please volunteer at a food bank for once in your fucking life and learn what kinds of people the 3million people in this country attending them are like. It will surprise you, expand your view of society a bit, and you’ll be doing an actually-good useful thing.
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        +body: "The process and length of time it takes for either option are practically the same. It’s irrelevant. Not to mention a traffic island costs like £3k while a camera costs £85k (guess why they pick the camera despite the price)."
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          > Sure, but you’re arguing for like instant speed camera abolishment or destruction here, aye?\n
          \n
          As a means of discouraging their construction in the first place and the harm they do to the poor I am defending the person who did this.\n
          \n
          I am not advocating anyone do anything illegal. ![illegal-to-say](https://www.hexbear.net/pictrs/image/062ce259-061f-4e4b-8418-3603c02087f0.png "emoji illegal-to-say")
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          Having been to court twice for online related stuff I will absolutely couch this shit.\n
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          I do not see how that question is doing anything but attempting some sort of gotcha or accusation that these people deserve to be fucked over instead of have real designs that don’t result in their lives being made harder.
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          If you say utterly stupid ass things like poor people don’t own cars I will absolutely assume you don’t interact with the people struggling to survive in this country in any capacity. It’s a bloody stupid thing to say mate.\n
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          I mean what I said, go and volunteer and see for yourself.
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          Ok so you finally agree that some poor people suffer because of this and that there is an alternative that exists where no poor people suffer at all?\n
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          Doing the alternative is good and taking action that leads to the alternative is good.
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          > My point here is that for every one it fucks over, it helps other people not being fucked over, because it does do something against speeding. My line of reasoning for speed cams is not that it fucks people over, it’s that it helps people. You wanna focus on the first part, I’m trying to get you to see the issue is more complex than that, at least if you include people outside of cars in your consideration.\n
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          Well my line of reasoning is that there is an alternative that fucks no poor people over, and that taking action to achieve that end us a good thing. A negative in the short term leads to a longterm positive.\n
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          Also I see no other method of doing this. If you go to the council and say “I want to replace this highly profitable traffic camera making hundreds of thousands per year with a traffic island that will make no money at all” the decision that any team will make internally is obvious. That issue inevitably leads to destruction of these cameras as the only method of causing the alternative to occur.
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          Ok so what do you expect to happen when you rock up to the council and say “Hi, I want to replace this speed camera making tens of thousands in profit per year with this other solution that makes no money at all” ?\n
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          Please tell me what you think the pathway to the alternative better solution is.
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          You physically can’t speed with traffic calming, they will just crash and fuck up their vehicles.\n
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          This conversation is silly. Right from the start if you were committed to this fuck the poor nonsense you should have just been honest and admitted it so neither of our times would have been wasted on this ridiculous farce.\n
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          Not really that surprised, typical liberal bullshit. Gonna vote Starmer too yeah?
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          Ay that’s a surprise at least.\n
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          You’re not being realistic though. Will continue congratulating the gang for cutting these down, fairly sure some of the ycl lads have done a few.
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          Meanwhile, in the real world we must be concerned with actually viable change.\n
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          > when the last speed cam is dismantled you’ll find all the roads still suck ass and will not be redesigned\n
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          This is just factually not true, evidenced by the abundance of traffic calming measures that exists, and those that have replaced cameras.\n
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          You are inventing a fantasy reality to suit an anti car obsession. One I share, car reduction is good. However you’re being a tit now.
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          I was ruder than I should’ve been, I thought you were the other person who has irritated me a bit.\n
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          > I guarantee you without change far reaching enough to societally gain a new understanding of public space and roads\n
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          This is the weird fantasy part I was referring to. It’s like, just nonsense. It comes off like an american attitude being ported to the UK with absolutely no adaptation whatsoever to British conditions. Our conditions are nothing like america. Getting rid of cameras and getting traffic calming measures installed instead is not particularly difficult, it’s about the same. This idea of complete and widespread reinterpretation of public space? It doesn’t make sense here.\n
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          The particular road from the OP is a main road through rural space between major locations. By American standards it would be considered idyllic.\n
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          Parts of the road already have traffic calming measures.\n
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          This is very easily expanded upon with the addition of chicanes, which are in wide use (hundreds of thousands) across the country.\n
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          There’s no “reimagining” needed here. People don’t need to develop a new consciousness of public space. We do not live in a country that is utterly obsessed with cars like america. And we aren’t opposed to limiting them. There are zero political barriers to this, the only barrier is the profit/revenue barrier of the traffic camera obsessed crowd. I must stress, I am not just cherrypicking out rare projects that look good. This shit is bog standard, everywhere in the country already. In every town, in every village, in every city. Outisde every school. In every residential area. All over the country.\n
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          It is categorically not the same environment here and we do not share the same political barriers or problems.
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    I’ll ignore the fact that you’re lying about what got you banned for this response.\n
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    Even the [western far right media has moved on from the original Tiananmen narrative](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8555142/Wikileaks-no-bloodshed-inside-Tiananmen-Square-cables-claim.html), which it acknowledges was false. The actual events played out more accurately to exactly what China has always said they were.\n
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    The only people still pushing the original shit are anticommunists and racists because it’s more convenient to their goals to perpetuate it.\n
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    Try actually listening and learning the actual facts from people in the left and then you won’t run into this problem. You’re getting banned and ridiculed by actual leftists because you’re further right and less educated on this topic than the fucking media of far right conservative tories ffs.\n
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    This is what happens when you get your political education from fucking reddit.\n
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    Learn properly: [archive.ph/24zzF](https://archive.ph/24zzF)
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