GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/m/asklemmy@lemmy.world/t/27438/Why-are-there-so-many-apps-that-could-be-websites/top

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.107
Profiled on
Token
d486d6

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
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context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
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Listener Duration Response 
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Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
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2 
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3 
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4 
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5 
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6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
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    Seriously. I don’t want to install something on my phone when the dev is just using a WebView, if that’s what it’s called. When the app is basically just a website with the browser hidden.\n
    \n
    What’s the reason for that? To attach the customer? To sell the app for money? Is there more ad revenue that way? Do you reach more people?\n
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
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      \n
      Reminder: The [terms of service](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/) apply here too.\n
      \n
      Partnered Communities:\n
      ----------------------\n
      \n
      [Tech Support](/c/techsupport@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Reddit](/c/reddit@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Jokes](/c/jokes@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Ask Ouija](/c/askouija@lemmy.world)\n
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      \n
      Logo design credit goes to: [tubbadu](/u/tubbadu@lemmy.world)\n
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS DENIED 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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4 DENIED moderate 
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      \n
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      \n
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      \n
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      \n
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      \n
      Reminder: The [terms of service](https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/) apply here too.\n
      \n
      Partnered Communities:\n
      ----------------------\n
      \n
      [Tech Support](/c/techsupport@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [No Stupid Questions](/c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [You Should Know](/c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Reddit](/c/reddit@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Jokes](/c/jokes@lemmy.world)\n
      \n
      [Ask Ouija](/c/askouija@lemmy.world)\n
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      Logo design credit goes to: [tubbadu](/u/tubbadu@lemmy.world)\n
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            This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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            If you have a choice, use a website.
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            This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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              This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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              This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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                This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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                If you have a choice, use a website.
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      Seriously. I don’t want to install something on my phone when the dev is just using a WebView, if that’s what it’s called. When the app is basically just a website with the browser hidden.\n
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                This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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                If you have a choice, use a website.
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              Hell apps can gather a lot of info without actually asking for permissions\n
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                This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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                If you have a choice, use a website.
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              Hell apps can gather a lot of info without actually asking for permissions\n
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              For example the accelerometer can be used without permissions
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            This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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            If you have a choice, use a website.
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          For example the accelerometer can be used without permissions
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            This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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            This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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              This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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    +body: "[Sensors permission toggle:](https://grapheneos.org/features#sensors-permission-toggle) disallow access to all other sensors not covered by existing Android permissions (Camera, Microphone, Body Sensors, Activity Recognition) including an accelerometer, gyroscope, compass, barometer, thermometer and any other sensors present on a given device."
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              This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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    +body: "[Sensors permission toggle:](https://grapheneos.org/features#sensors-permission-toggle) disallow access to all other sensors not covered by existing Android permissions (Camera, Microphone, Body Sensors, Activity Recognition) including an accelerometer, gyroscope, compass, barometer, thermometer and any other sensors present on a given device."
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              This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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              If you have a choice, use a website.
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            Hell apps can gather a lot of info without actually asking for permissions\n
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              This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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              If you have a choice, use a website.
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            Hell apps can gather a lot of info without actually asking for permissions\n
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    +body: "[Sensors permission toggle:](https://grapheneos.org/features#sensors-permission-toggle) disallow access to all other sensors not covered by existing Android permissions (Camera, Microphone, Body Sensors, Activity Recognition) including an accelerometer, gyroscope, compass, barometer, thermometer and any other sensors present on a given device."
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              This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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              If you have a choice, use a website.
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    +body: "[Sensors permission toggle:](https://grapheneos.org/features#sensors-permission-toggle) disallow access to all other sensors not covered by existing Android permissions (Camera, Microphone, Body Sensors, Activity Recognition) including an accelerometer, gyroscope, compass, barometer, thermometer and any other sensors present on a given device."
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              This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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            Hell apps can gather a lot of info without actually asking for permissions\n
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    +body: "[Sensors permission toggle:](https://grapheneos.org/features#sensors-permission-toggle) disallow access to all other sensors not covered by existing Android permissions (Camera, Microphone, Body Sensors, Activity Recognition) including an accelerometer, gyroscope, compass, barometer, thermometer and any other sensors present on a given device."
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  +body: "Very cool. I just checked Lineage OS and it looks like Google Play Services doesn’t let you disable sensors permission. Can you do it on Graphene OS? Lineage lets you control it on all apps except Google Play Services it looks like, which would actually be one of the top apps to disable it on imo."
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                This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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              Hell apps can gather a lot of info without actually asking for permissions\n
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    > I just checked Lineage OS and it looks like Google Play Services doesn’t let you disable sensors permission. Can you do it on Graphene OS?\n
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                This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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              Hell apps can gather a lot of info without actually asking for permissions\n
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      +body: "[Sensors permission toggle:](https://grapheneos.org/features#sensors-permission-toggle) disallow access to all other sensors not covered by existing Android permissions (Camera, Microphone, Body Sensors, Activity Recognition) including an accelerometer, gyroscope, compass, barometer, thermometer and any other sensors present on a given device."
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    +body: "Very cool. I just checked Lineage OS and it looks like Google Play Services doesn’t let you disable sensors permission. Can you do it on Graphene OS? Lineage lets you control it on all apps except Google Play Services it looks like, which would actually be one of the top apps to disable it on imo."
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    > I just checked Lineage OS and it looks like Google Play Services doesn’t let you disable sensors permission. Can you do it on Graphene OS?\n
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    This is due to [Sandboxed Google Play](https://grapheneos.org/features#sandboxed-google-play): “GrapheneOS has a compatibility layer providing the option to install and use the official releases of Google Play in the standard app sandbox. Google Play receives absolutely no special access or privileges on GrapheneOS as opposed to bypassing the app sandbox and receiving a massive amount of highly privileged access. Instead, the compatibility layer teaches it how to work within the full app sandbox.”
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                This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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    +body: "Very cool. I just checked Lineage OS and it looks like Google Play Services doesn’t let you disable sensors permission. Can you do it on Graphene OS? Lineage lets you control it on all apps except Google Play Services it looks like, which would actually be one of the top apps to disable it on imo."
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    > I just checked Lineage OS and it looks like Google Play Services doesn’t let you disable sensors permission. Can you do it on Graphene OS?\n
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    Yep, there’s a toggle to disable by default globally. I also individually checked Google Play Services, Google Play Store and Google Services Framework, and all three can be denied the Sensors permission.\n
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    This is due to [Sandboxed Google Play](https://grapheneos.org/features#sandboxed-google-play): “GrapheneOS has a compatibility layer providing the option to install and use the official releases of Google Play in the standard app sandbox. Google Play receives absolutely no special access or privileges on GrapheneOS as opposed to bypassing the app sandbox and receiving a massive amount of highly privileged access. Instead, the compatibility layer teaches it how to work within the full app sandbox.”
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                  This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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                  Most users don’t mind giving an app a large amount of access and in doing so, a lot of personal information gets exposed.\n
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                  If you have a choice, use a website.
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                For example the accelerometer can be used without permissions
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        +body: "[Sensors permission toggle:](https://grapheneos.org/features#sensors-permission-toggle) disallow access to all other sensors not covered by existing Android permissions (Camera, Microphone, Body Sensors, Activity Recognition) including an accelerometer, gyroscope, compass, barometer, thermometer and any other sensors present on a given device."
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      > I just checked Lineage OS and it looks like Google Play Services doesn’t let you disable sensors permission. Can you do it on Graphene OS?\n
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                  This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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                  Most users don’t mind giving an app a large amount of access and in doing so, a lot of personal information gets exposed.\n
                  \n
                  If you have a choice, use a website.
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                Hell apps can gather a lot of info without actually asking for permissions\n
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                For example the accelerometer can be used without permissions
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        +body: "[Sensors permission toggle:](https://grapheneos.org/features#sensors-permission-toggle) disallow access to all other sensors not covered by existing Android permissions (Camera, Microphone, Body Sensors, Activity Recognition) including an accelerometer, gyroscope, compass, barometer, thermometer and any other sensors present on a given device."
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      > I just checked Lineage OS and it looks like Google Play Services doesn’t let you disable sensors permission. Can you do it on Graphene OS?\n
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      Yep, there’s a toggle to disable by default globally. I also individually checked Google Play Services, Google Play Store and Google Services Framework, and all three can be denied the Sensors permission.\n
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                  This exactly. Just ask for some location rights in the app and get access to wifi also.\n
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                  Most users don’t mind giving an app a large amount of access and in doing so, a lot of personal information gets exposed.\n
                  \n
                  If you have a choice, use a website.
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                Hell apps can gather a lot of info without actually asking for permissions\n
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                For example the accelerometer can be used without permissions
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        +body: "[Sensors permission toggle:](https://grapheneos.org/features#sensors-permission-toggle) disallow access to all other sensors not covered by existing Android permissions (Camera, Microphone, Body Sensors, Activity Recognition) including an accelerometer, gyroscope, compass, barometer, thermometer and any other sensors present on a given device."
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      +body: "Very cool. I just checked Lineage OS and it looks like Google Play Services doesn’t let you disable sensors permission. Can you do it on Graphene OS? Lineage lets you control it on all apps except Google Play Services it looks like, which would actually be one of the top apps to disable it on imo."
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      > I just checked Lineage OS and it looks like Google Play Services doesn’t let you disable sensors permission. Can you do it on Graphene OS?\n
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      Yep, there’s a toggle to disable by default globally. I also individually checked Google Play Services, Google Play Store and Google Services Framework, and all three can be denied the Sensors permission.\n
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      This is due to [Sandboxed Google Play](https://grapheneos.org/features#sandboxed-google-play): “GrapheneOS has a compatibility layer providing the option to install and use the official releases of Google Play in the standard app sandbox. Google Play receives absolutely no special access or privileges on GrapheneOS as opposed to bypassing the app sandbox and receiving a massive amount of highly privileged access. Instead, the compatibility layer teaches it how to work within the full app sandbox.”
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    Can’t you use camera on browser? I actually seen a project that does some complex things using camera [1] and it ran in browser. I’m confident scanning bar codes is possible.\n
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    [1] [qiblafinder.withgoogle.com/intl/en/desktop](https://qiblafinder.withgoogle.com/intl/en/desktop)
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    - Integration: it’s easier to do IAPs or subscriptions through native controls, which means less resistance, which means people are more likely to end up doing it.\n
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      There’s no one single answer to this. Some have been mentioned in other comments, but it’s a combination of a few different things:\n
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      I’m sure I’m forgetting a few but you get the idea.\n
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      Websites are basically just inferior versions of native apps, and even if you use a hybrid/web view approach, you get many of the benefits and have the option to “upgrade” to a real native app later.\n
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      There’s no one single answer to this. Some have been mentioned in other comments, but it’s a combination of a few different things:\n
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      - Ad revenue: It’s significantly harder to block ads coming through the built in web views, and/or they can just build them in natively which is even harder.\n
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    So we had to package it as an official app :(
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      Seriously. I don’t want to install something on my phone when the dev is just using a WebView, if that’s what it’s called. When the app is basically just a website with the browser hidden.\n
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      What’s the reason for that? To attach the customer? To sell the app for money? Is there more ad revenue that way? Do you reach more people?\n
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      (Are there any good reasons for it, too? Security, maybe?)
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      There’s no one single answer to this. Some have been mentioned in other comments, but it’s a combination of a few different things:\n
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      - Ad revenue: It’s significantly harder to block ads coming through the built in web views, and/or they can just build them in natively which is even harder.\n
      - Integration: it’s easier to do IAPs or subscriptions through native controls, which means less resistance, which means people are more likely to end up doing it.\n
      - Data: it’s easier to hoover up user data via native APIs than through the browser. There’s way more accessible, especially if you can ask for a bunch of permissions and people don’t notice/care. This makes any user tracking they do way more effective and any data they sell way more valuable.\n
      - Notifications: Recently browsers have started adding support for this but it’s not as effective. Push notifications are a huge boon to user engagement and this is a huge money maker. Having native notifications is a huge sell in this equation.\n
      - Persistence: If you have your app on a user’s phone, it ends up in the list of apps, meaning they pass by it very frequently. It’s basically free advertising and living in their head without them even noticing. This is especially true on iOS where basically all of your apps are in your face all of the time.\n
      - Performance: Native apps run way better and can look way better than web sites. If you just use web views this is mostly moot but still may make a small difference.\n
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      I’m sure I’m forgetting a few but you get the idea.\n
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      Websites are basically just inferior versions of native apps, and even if you use a hybrid/web view approach, you get many of the benefits and have the option to “upgrade” to a real native app later.\n
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      That being said, I fucking hate this shit. I don’t agree that companies should do this, but it hands down does make financial sense. In a society entirely driven by capital and profit, it makes sense, but from a consumer perspective, it fucking sucks. I don’t want to have to install the Facebook app to see some small businesses “web site” that’s really just a Facebook page. I don’t want to install reddits shitty native app to read more than 2 comments off a post about a solution to my problem.\n
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      It’s legitimately consumer hostile, but company profits are more important than people in our society.
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    This is spot on. We recently had to do this to one of our products and I didn’t want to at all, but we could do push notifications reliably that worked for both Android and iOS.\n
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    So we had to package it as an official app :(
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      There’s no one single answer to this. Some have been mentioned in other comments, but it’s a combination of a few different things:\n
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      - Ad revenue: It’s significantly harder to block ads coming through the built in web views, and/or they can just build them in natively which is even harder.\n
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      - Data: it’s easier to hoover up user data via native APIs than through the browser. There’s way more accessible, especially if you can ask for a bunch of permissions and people don’t notice/care. This makes any user tracking they do way more effective and any data they sell way more valuable.\n
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      Websites are basically just inferior versions of native apps, and even if you use a hybrid/web view approach, you get many of the benefits and have the option to “upgrade” to a real native app later.\n
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      That being said, I fucking hate this shit. I don’t agree that companies should do this, but it hands down does make financial sense. In a society entirely driven by capital and profit, it makes sense, but from a consumer perspective, it fucking sucks. I don’t want to have to install the Facebook app to see some small businesses “web site” that’s really just a Facebook page. I don’t want to install reddits shitty native app to read more than 2 comments off a post about a solution to my problem.\n
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    I think there’s a big one that you’ve missed and it’s that most people are not like most people here. Believe it or not there are many people out there whose first instinct is to search their app store for what they want. They walk among us.\n
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    If I’m McDonald’s, and a significant number of my customers search for me and instead get KFC and Burger King as top results with no McDonald’s app in sight, it’s seen as a marketing problem.
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      There’s no one single answer to this. Some have been mentioned in other comments, but it’s a combination of a few different things:\n
      \n
      - Control: They have much more control over your experience as a native app than a web app.\n
      - Ad revenue: It’s significantly harder to block ads coming through the built in web views, and/or they can just build them in natively which is even harder.\n
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    I think there’s a big one that you’ve missed and it’s that most people are not like most people here. Believe it or not there are many people out there whose first instinct is to search their app store for what they want. They walk among us.\n
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    If I’m McDonald’s, and a significant number of my customers search for me and instead get KFC and Burger King as top results with no McDonald’s app in sight, it’s seen as a marketing problem.
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      Seriously. I don’t want to install something on my phone when the dev is just using a WebView, if that’s what it’s called. When the app is basically just a website with the browser hidden.\n
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      What’s the reason for that? To attach the customer? To sell the app for money? Is there more ad revenue that way? Do you reach more people?\n
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      (Are there any good reasons for it, too? Security, maybe?)
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      There’s no one single answer to this. Some have been mentioned in other comments, but it’s a combination of a few different things:\n
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      - Ad revenue: It’s significantly harder to block ads coming through the built in web views, and/or they can just build them in natively which is even harder.\n
      - Integration: it’s easier to do IAPs or subscriptions through native controls, which means less resistance, which means people are more likely to end up doing it.\n
      - Data: it’s easier to hoover up user data via native APIs than through the browser. There’s way more accessible, especially if you can ask for a bunch of permissions and people don’t notice/care. This makes any user tracking they do way more effective and any data they sell way more valuable.\n
      - Notifications: Recently browsers have started adding support for this but it’s not as effective. Push notifications are a huge boon to user engagement and this is a huge money maker. Having native notifications is a huge sell in this equation.\n
      - Persistence: If you have your app on a user’s phone, it ends up in the list of apps, meaning they pass by it very frequently. It’s basically free advertising and living in their head without them even noticing. This is especially true on iOS where basically all of your apps are in your face all of the time.\n
      - Performance: Native apps run way better and can look way better than web sites. If you just use web views this is mostly moot but still may make a small difference.\n
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      I’m sure I’m forgetting a few but you get the idea.\n
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      Websites are basically just inferior versions of native apps, and even if you use a hybrid/web view approach, you get many of the benefits and have the option to “upgrade” to a real native app later.\n
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      That being said, I fucking hate this shit. I don’t agree that companies should do this, but it hands down does make financial sense. In a society entirely driven by capital and profit, it makes sense, but from a consumer perspective, it fucking sucks. I don’t want to have to install the Facebook app to see some small businesses “web site” that’s really just a Facebook page. I don’t want to install reddits shitty native app to read more than 2 comments off a post about a solution to my problem.\n
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      It’s legitimately consumer hostile, but company profits are more important than people in our society.
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    I think there’s a big one that you’ve missed and it’s that most people are not like most people here. Believe it or not there are many people out there whose first instinct is to search their app store for what they want. They walk among us.\n
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    If I’m McDonald’s, and a significant number of my customers search for me and instead get KFC and Burger King as top results with no McDonald’s app in sight, it’s seen as a marketing problem.
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      Seriously. I don’t want to install something on my phone when the dev is just using a WebView, if that’s what it’s called. When the app is basically just a website with the browser hidden.\n
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      What’s the reason for that? To attach the customer? To sell the app for money? Is there more ad revenue that way? Do you reach more people?\n
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      There’s no one single answer to this. Some have been mentioned in other comments, but it’s a combination of a few different things:\n
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      - Ad revenue: It’s significantly harder to block ads coming through the built in web views, and/or they can just build them in natively which is even harder.\n
      - Integration: it’s easier to do IAPs or subscriptions through native controls, which means less resistance, which means people are more likely to end up doing it.\n
      - Data: it’s easier to hoover up user data via native APIs than through the browser. There’s way more accessible, especially if you can ask for a bunch of permissions and people don’t notice/care. This makes any user tracking they do way more effective and any data they sell way more valuable.\n
      - Notifications: Recently browsers have started adding support for this but it’s not as effective. Push notifications are a huge boon to user engagement and this is a huge money maker. Having native notifications is a huge sell in this equation.\n
      - Persistence: If you have your app on a user’s phone, it ends up in the list of apps, meaning they pass by it very frequently. It’s basically free advertising and living in their head without them even noticing. This is especially true on iOS where basically all of your apps are in your face all of the time.\n
      - Performance: Native apps run way better and can look way better than web sites. If you just use web views this is mostly moot but still may make a small difference.\n
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      I’m sure I’m forgetting a few but you get the idea.\n
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      Websites are basically just inferior versions of native apps, and even if you use a hybrid/web view approach, you get many of the benefits and have the option to “upgrade” to a real native app later.\n
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      That being said, I fucking hate this shit. I don’t agree that companies should do this, but it hands down does make financial sense. In a society entirely driven by capital and profit, it makes sense, but from a consumer perspective, it fucking sucks. I don’t want to have to install the Facebook app to see some small businesses “web site” that’s really just a Facebook page. I don’t want to install reddits shitty native app to read more than 2 comments off a post about a solution to my problem.\n
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      It’s legitimately consumer hostile, but company profits are more important than people in our society.
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    Progressive Web Apps were supposed to marry these schools of thought, but maybe we hoped for too much because it’s still garbage Chromium under the hood.\n
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