GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/u/@CameronDev@programming.dev/active

Response
200 OK
IP
98.83.10.183
Profiled on
Token
db8364

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 0.22 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.03 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2223
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2739 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2227 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3715 …}
  +slug: "Haier-the-air-conditioner-maker-takes-down-open-source-third-party"
  +title: "Haier, the air conditioner maker, takes down open source third-party Home Assistant integration"
  +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c5fb0675-d65a-4386-aca8-5cd2bf9e8183.png"
  +body: """
    cross-posted from: [lemmy.world/post/10882099](https://lemmy.world/post/10882099)\n
    \n
    > Thankfully I don’t use any of their products, but this really pisses me off. They claim that this open source project “causes significant economic harm to their company”\n
    > \n
    > This is ridiculous. It is truly ridiculous. How can something that enables the user to efficiently control their AC cause “significant economic harm”???\n
    > \n
    > Consider forking the repository or mirroring it to another platform like GitLab, Codeberg or your self-hosted Git server, so the project can continue to exist and someone can maybe fork it and maintain it.\n
    > \n
    > The effected repos are: [github.com/Andre0512/hOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/hOn) and [github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn)\n
    > \n
    > If you don’t know about Home Assistant, check it out. It’s an amazing piece of open-source software, that you can run at home on your own server and use it to control your smart home devices. That way, you don’t need to connect them to the manufacturer’s (probably insecure) cloud. It gives you sovereignty over your smart home instead of some proprietary vendor-locked garbage. Check out their [website](https://www.home-assistant.io/) and the Lemmy community: !homeassistant@lemmy.world\n
    > \n
    > I also highly recommend Louis Rossmann’s video about this: [youtu.be/RcSnd3cyti0](https://youtu.be/RcSnd3cyti0)\n
    > \n
    > He makes awesome videos in general, consider subscribing.\n
    > \n
    > As Rossmann said, don’t ever buy anything from such a shitty company that doesn’t respect their customers. This move by Haier is nothing other than a slap in the face for everyone, who just wants to comfortably control the product they paid for. This company is actively hostile towards their paying customers. Fuck these bastards!
    """
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 59
  +favouriteCount: 611
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1727194737 {#3710
    date: 2024-09-24 18:18:57.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3717 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3719 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3721 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3723 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3725 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3727 …}
  +children: [
    3 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2198
      +user: App\Entity\User {#261 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2223 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2227 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2216 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2214 …}
      +body: """
        Not the person you asked, but i have a mitsubishi electric heatpump, which i have hooked up to homeassistant via an esphome library. It has a header on the controller board that you can connect to.\n
        \n
        Normally the header is for their $200 controller and app, i spent $10 on the parts.\n
        \n
        [github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump](https://github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump)\n
        \n
        I think i better start mirroring the repo…
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 15
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1705617360 {#2139
        date: 2024-01-18 23:36:00.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@Dehydrated@lemmy.world"
        "@poVoq@slrpnk.net"
        "@Dehydrated@lemmy.world"
        "@poVoq@slrpnk.net"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2213 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2230 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2232 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2228 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2192 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2299 …}
      -id: 320611
      -bodyTs: "'/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump](https://github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump)':55 '10':49 '200':43 'app':46 'ask':5 'better':59 'board':31 'connect':35 'control':30,44 'electr':11 'esphom':22 'github.com':54 'github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump](https://github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump)':53 'header':27,39 'heatpump':12 'homeassist':19 'hook':16 'librari':23 'mirror':61 'mitsubishi':10 'normal':37 'part':52 'person':3 'repo':63 'spent':48 'start':60 'think':57 'via':20"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://programming.dev/comment/6592527"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1726500065 {#2215
        date: 2024-09-16 17:21:05.0 +02:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705617360 {#2224
        date: 2024-01-18 23:36:00.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 320611
    }
    2 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2319
      +user: App\Entity\User {#261 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2223 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2227 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2317 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2214 …}
      +body: """
        Yeah, its great. My only complaint is that you cant set the vane positions. And the temp sensors are a bit meaningless due to the height on the wall.\n
        \n
        I intend to investigate the vane positioning in the future.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1705649535 {#2305
        date: 2024-01-19 08:32:15.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
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        "@Dehydrated@lemmy.world"
        "@poVoq@slrpnk.net"
        "@CameronDev@programming.dev"
        "@kif@lemmy.nz"
        "@Dehydrated@lemmy.world"
        "@poVoq@slrpnk.net"
        "@CameronDev@programming.dev"
        "@kif@lemmy.nz"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2318 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2316 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2294 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2296 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2281 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2280 …}
      -id: 321867
      -bodyTs: "'bit':21 'cant':10 'complaint':6 'due':23 'futur':39 'great':3 'height':26 'intend':31 'investig':33 'meaningless':22 'posit':14,36 'sensor':18 'set':11 'temp':17 'vane':13,35 'wall':29 'yeah':1"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://programming.dev/comment/6603518"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1726627755 {#2304
        date: 2024-09-18 04:49:15.0 +02:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705649535 {#2303
        date: 2024-01-19 08:32:15.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 321867
    }
    1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2279
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2223 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2227 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2275 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2214 …}
      +body: """
        The IR blasters can usually be flashed with open firmware like tasmota or esphome. I started with IR as well. The downside for me was that IR was one way. You can tell the unit to turn on, but you cant know if it actually did turn on.\n
        \n
        For a cheaper IR option: [www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html)\n
        \n
        If anyone is in Aus and wants some IR blasters with tasmota, happy to ship my spares :D
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1705701783 {#2278
        date: 2024-01-19 23:03:03.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@Dehydrated@lemmy.world"
        "@poVoq@slrpnk.net"
        "@noorbeast@lemmy.zip"
        "@pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2277 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2220 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2222 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2219 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2196 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2194 …}
      -id: 324117
      -bodyTs: "'/item/1005004486051086.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html)':56 'actual':45 'anyon':58 'aus':61 'blaster':3,66 'cant':41 'cheaper':51 'd':74 'downsid':22 'esphom':14 'firmwar':10 'flash':7 'happi':69 'ir':2,18,27,52,65 'know':42 'like':11 'one':29 'open':9 'option':53 'ship':71 'spare':73 'start':16 'tasmota':12,68 'tell':33 'turn':37,47 'unit':35 'usual':5 'want':63 'way':30 'well':20 'www.aliexpress.com':55 'www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html)':54"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://programming.dev/comment/6619606"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705701783 {#2276
        date: 2024-01-19 23:03:03.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 324117
    }
    0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2205
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2223 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2227 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2206 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2214 …}
      +body: "Might just mirror that repo to be safe :D"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1705701816 {#2193
        date: 2024-01-19 23:03:36.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
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        "@Dehydrated@lemmy.world"
        "@poVoq@slrpnk.net"
        "@CameronDev@programming.dev"
        "@domi@lemmy.secnd.me"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2202 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2210 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2207 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2208 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2204 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2211 …}
      -id: 324119
      -bodyTs: "'d':9 'might':1 'mirror':3 'repo':5 'safe':8"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
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      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://programming.dev/comment/6619616"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705701816 {#2197
        date: 2024-01-19 23:03:36.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 324119
    }
  ]
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  +ranking: 1705698082
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    date: 2024-09-16 12:01:11.0 +02:00
  }
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   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2223
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2739 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2227 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3715 …}
  +slug: "Haier-the-air-conditioner-maker-takes-down-open-source-third-party"
  +title: "Haier, the air conditioner maker, takes down open source third-party Home Assistant integration"
  +url: "https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c5fb0675-d65a-4386-aca8-5cd2bf9e8183.png"
  +body: """
    cross-posted from: [lemmy.world/post/10882099](https://lemmy.world/post/10882099)\n
    \n
    > Thankfully I don’t use any of their products, but this really pisses me off. They claim that this open source project “causes significant economic harm to their company”\n
    > \n
    > This is ridiculous. It is truly ridiculous. How can something that enables the user to efficiently control their AC cause “significant economic harm”???\n
    > \n
    > Consider forking the repository or mirroring it to another platform like GitLab, Codeberg or your self-hosted Git server, so the project can continue to exist and someone can maybe fork it and maintain it.\n
    > \n
    > The effected repos are: [github.com/Andre0512/hOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/hOn) and [github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn)\n
    > \n
    > If you don’t know about Home Assistant, check it out. It’s an amazing piece of open-source software, that you can run at home on your own server and use it to control your smart home devices. That way, you don’t need to connect them to the manufacturer’s (probably insecure) cloud. It gives you sovereignty over your smart home instead of some proprietary vendor-locked garbage. Check out their [website](https://www.home-assistant.io/) and the Lemmy community: !homeassistant@lemmy.world\n
    > \n
    > I also highly recommend Louis Rossmann’s video about this: [youtu.be/RcSnd3cyti0](https://youtu.be/RcSnd3cyti0)\n
    > \n
    > He makes awesome videos in general, consider subscribing.\n
    > \n
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        Not the person you asked, but i have a mitsubishi electric heatpump, which i have hooked up to homeassistant via an esphome library. It has a header on the controller board that you can connect to.\n
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        Yeah, its great. My only complaint is that you cant set the vane positions. And the temp sensors are a bit meaningless due to the height on the wall.\n
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        The IR blasters can usually be flashed with open firmware like tasmota or esphome. I started with IR as well. The downside for me was that IR was one way. You can tell the unit to turn on, but you cant know if it actually did turn on.\n
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        For a cheaper IR option: [www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html)\n
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    cross-posted from: [lemmy.world/post/10882099](https://lemmy.world/post/10882099)\n
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    > Thankfully I don’t use any of their products, but this really pisses me off. They claim that this open source project “causes significant economic harm to their company”\n
    > \n
    > This is ridiculous. It is truly ridiculous. How can something that enables the user to efficiently control their AC cause “significant economic harm”???\n
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    > Consider forking the repository or mirroring it to another platform like GitLab, Codeberg or your self-hosted Git server, so the project can continue to exist and someone can maybe fork it and maintain it.\n
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    > The effected repos are: [github.com/Andre0512/hOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/hOn) and [github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn)\n
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    > If you don’t know about Home Assistant, check it out. It’s an amazing piece of open-source software, that you can run at home on your own server and use it to control your smart home devices. That way, you don’t need to connect them to the manufacturer’s (probably insecure) cloud. It gives you sovereignty over your smart home instead of some proprietary vendor-locked garbage. Check out their [website](https://www.home-assistant.io/) and the Lemmy community: !homeassistant@lemmy.world\n
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        Not the person you asked, but i have a mitsubishi electric heatpump, which i have hooked up to homeassistant via an esphome library. It has a header on the controller board that you can connect to.\n
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        The IR blasters can usually be flashed with open firmware like tasmota or esphome. I started with IR as well. The downside for me was that IR was one way. You can tell the unit to turn on, but you cant know if it actually did turn on.\n
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        For a cheaper IR option: [www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html)\n
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      cross-posted from: [lemmy.world/post/10882099](https://lemmy.world/post/10882099)\n
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      > Thankfully I don’t use any of their products, but this really pisses me off. They claim that this open source project “causes significant economic harm to their company”\n
      > \n
      > This is ridiculous. It is truly ridiculous. How can something that enables the user to efficiently control their AC cause “significant economic harm”???\n
      > \n
      > Consider forking the repository or mirroring it to another platform like GitLab, Codeberg or your self-hosted Git server, so the project can continue to exist and someone can maybe fork it and maintain it.\n
      > \n
      > The effected repos are: [github.com/Andre0512/hOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/hOn) and [github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn)\n
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      > If you don’t know about Home Assistant, check it out. It’s an amazing piece of open-source software, that you can run at home on your own server and use it to control your smart home devices. That way, you don’t need to connect them to the manufacturer’s (probably insecure) cloud. It gives you sovereignty over your smart home instead of some proprietary vendor-locked garbage. Check out their [website](https://www.home-assistant.io/) and the Lemmy community: !homeassistant@lemmy.world\n
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      > I also highly recommend Louis Rossmann’s video about this: [youtu.be/RcSnd3cyti0](https://youtu.be/RcSnd3cyti0)\n
      > \n
      > He makes awesome videos in general, consider subscribing.\n
      > \n
      > As Rossmann said, don’t ever buy anything from such a shitty company that doesn’t respect their customers. This move by Haier is nothing other than a slap in the face for everyone, who just wants to comfortably control the product they paid for. This company is actively hostile towards their paying customers. Fuck these bastards!
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          Yeah, its great. My only complaint is that you cant set the vane positions. And the temp sensors are a bit meaningless due to the height on the wall.\n
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          The IR blasters can usually be flashed with open firmware like tasmota or esphome. I started with IR as well. The downside for me was that IR was one way. You can tell the unit to turn on, but you cant know if it actually did turn on.\n
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    Not the person you asked, but i have a mitsubishi electric heatpump, which i have hooked up to homeassistant via an esphome library. It has a header on the controller board that you can connect to.\n
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    Normally the header is for their $200 controller and app, i spent $10 on the parts.\n
    \n
    [github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump](https://github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump)\n
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    I think i better start mirroring the repo…
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      cross-posted from: [lemmy.world/post/10882099](https://lemmy.world/post/10882099)\n
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      > Thankfully I don’t use any of their products, but this really pisses me off. They claim that this open source project “causes significant economic harm to their company”\n
      > \n
      > This is ridiculous. It is truly ridiculous. How can something that enables the user to efficiently control their AC cause “significant economic harm”???\n
      > \n
      > Consider forking the repository or mirroring it to another platform like GitLab, Codeberg or your self-hosted Git server, so the project can continue to exist and someone can maybe fork it and maintain it.\n
      > \n
      > The effected repos are: [github.com/Andre0512/hOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/hOn) and [github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn)\n
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      > If you don’t know about Home Assistant, check it out. It’s an amazing piece of open-source software, that you can run at home on your own server and use it to control your smart home devices. That way, you don’t need to connect them to the manufacturer’s (probably insecure) cloud. It gives you sovereignty over your smart home instead of some proprietary vendor-locked garbage. Check out their [website](https://www.home-assistant.io/) and the Lemmy community: !homeassistant@lemmy.world\n
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      > He makes awesome videos in general, consider subscribing.\n
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      > As Rossmann said, don’t ever buy anything from such a shitty company that doesn’t respect their customers. This move by Haier is nothing other than a slap in the face for everyone, who just wants to comfortably control the product they paid for. This company is actively hostile towards their paying customers. Fuck these bastards!
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          Yeah, its great. My only complaint is that you cant set the vane positions. And the temp sensors are a bit meaningless due to the height on the wall.\n
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          The IR blasters can usually be flashed with open firmware like tasmota or esphome. I started with IR as well. The downside for me was that IR was one way. You can tell the unit to turn on, but you cant know if it actually did turn on.\n
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          For a cheaper IR option: [www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html)\n
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    Not the person you asked, but i have a mitsubishi electric heatpump, which i have hooked up to homeassistant via an esphome library. It has a header on the controller board that you can connect to.\n
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    Normally the header is for their $200 controller and app, i spent $10 on the parts.\n
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    [github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump](https://github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump)\n
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    I think i better start mirroring the repo…
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      cross-posted from: [lemmy.world/post/10882099](https://lemmy.world/post/10882099)\n
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          The IR blasters can usually be flashed with open firmware like tasmota or esphome. I started with IR as well. The downside for me was that IR was one way. You can tell the unit to turn on, but you cant know if it actually did turn on.\n
          \n
          For a cheaper IR option: [www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html)\n
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    Not the person you asked, but i have a mitsubishi electric heatpump, which i have hooked up to homeassistant via an esphome library. It has a header on the controller board that you can connect to.\n
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    Normally the header is for their $200 controller and app, i spent $10 on the parts.\n
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    [github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump](https://github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump)\n
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    I think i better start mirroring the repo…
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      cross-posted from: [lemmy.world/post/10882099](https://lemmy.world/post/10882099)\n
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      > Thankfully I don’t use any of their products, but this really pisses me off. They claim that this open source project “causes significant economic harm to their company”\n
      > \n
      > This is ridiculous. It is truly ridiculous. How can something that enables the user to efficiently control their AC cause “significant economic harm”???\n
      > \n
      > Consider forking the repository or mirroring it to another platform like GitLab, Codeberg or your self-hosted Git server, so the project can continue to exist and someone can maybe fork it and maintain it.\n
      > \n
      > The effected repos are: [github.com/Andre0512/hOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/hOn) and [github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn)\n
      > \n
      > If you don’t know about Home Assistant, check it out. It’s an amazing piece of open-source software, that you can run at home on your own server and use it to control your smart home devices. That way, you don’t need to connect them to the manufacturer’s (probably insecure) cloud. It gives you sovereignty over your smart home instead of some proprietary vendor-locked garbage. Check out their [website](https://www.home-assistant.io/) and the Lemmy community: !homeassistant@lemmy.world\n
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      > I also highly recommend Louis Rossmann’s video about this: [youtu.be/RcSnd3cyti0](https://youtu.be/RcSnd3cyti0)\n
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      > He makes awesome videos in general, consider subscribing.\n
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      > As Rossmann said, don’t ever buy anything from such a shitty company that doesn’t respect their customers. This move by Haier is nothing other than a slap in the face for everyone, who just wants to comfortably control the product they paid for. This company is actively hostile towards their paying customers. Fuck these bastards!
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          Not the person you asked, but i have a mitsubishi electric heatpump, which i have hooked up to homeassistant via an esphome library. It has a header on the controller board that you can connect to.\n
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          Normally the header is for their $200 controller and app, i spent $10 on the parts.\n
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          [github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump](https://github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump)\n
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          I think i better start mirroring the repo…
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          The IR blasters can usually be flashed with open firmware like tasmota or esphome. I started with IR as well. The downside for me was that IR was one way. You can tell the unit to turn on, but you cant know if it actually did turn on.\n
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    Yeah, its great. My only complaint is that you cant set the vane positions. And the temp sensors are a bit meaningless due to the height on the wall.\n
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      cross-posted from: [lemmy.world/post/10882099](https://lemmy.world/post/10882099)\n
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      > Thankfully I don’t use any of their products, but this really pisses me off. They claim that this open source project “causes significant economic harm to their company”\n
      > \n
      > This is ridiculous. It is truly ridiculous. How can something that enables the user to efficiently control their AC cause “significant economic harm”???\n
      > \n
      > Consider forking the repository or mirroring it to another platform like GitLab, Codeberg or your self-hosted Git server, so the project can continue to exist and someone can maybe fork it and maintain it.\n
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      > The effected repos are: [github.com/Andre0512/hOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/hOn) and [github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn)\n
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      > If you don’t know about Home Assistant, check it out. It’s an amazing piece of open-source software, that you can run at home on your own server and use it to control your smart home devices. That way, you don’t need to connect them to the manufacturer’s (probably insecure) cloud. It gives you sovereignty over your smart home instead of some proprietary vendor-locked garbage. Check out their [website](https://www.home-assistant.io/) and the Lemmy community: !homeassistant@lemmy.world\n
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      > As Rossmann said, don’t ever buy anything from such a shitty company that doesn’t respect their customers. This move by Haier is nothing other than a slap in the face for everyone, who just wants to comfortably control the product they paid for. This company is actively hostile towards their paying customers. Fuck these bastards!
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          Not the person you asked, but i have a mitsubishi electric heatpump, which i have hooked up to homeassistant via an esphome library. It has a header on the controller board that you can connect to.\n
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          The IR blasters can usually be flashed with open firmware like tasmota or esphome. I started with IR as well. The downside for me was that IR was one way. You can tell the unit to turn on, but you cant know if it actually did turn on.\n
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      > \n
      > Consider forking the repository or mirroring it to another platform like GitLab, Codeberg or your self-hosted Git server, so the project can continue to exist and someone can maybe fork it and maintain it.\n
      > \n
      > The effected repos are: [github.com/Andre0512/hOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/hOn) and [github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn)\n
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          Not the person you asked, but i have a mitsubishi electric heatpump, which i have hooked up to homeassistant via an esphome library. It has a header on the controller board that you can connect to.\n
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          The IR blasters can usually be flashed with open firmware like tasmota or esphome. I started with IR as well. The downside for me was that IR was one way. You can tell the unit to turn on, but you cant know if it actually did turn on.\n
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    The IR blasters can usually be flashed with open firmware like tasmota or esphome. I started with IR as well. The downside for me was that IR was one way. You can tell the unit to turn on, but you cant know if it actually did turn on.\n
    \n
    For a cheaper IR option: [www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html)\n
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    If anyone is in Aus and wants some IR blasters with tasmota, happy to ship my spares :D
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      cross-posted from: [lemmy.world/post/10882099](https://lemmy.world/post/10882099)\n
      \n
      > Thankfully I don’t use any of their products, but this really pisses me off. They claim that this open source project “causes significant economic harm to their company”\n
      > \n
      > This is ridiculous. It is truly ridiculous. How can something that enables the user to efficiently control their AC cause “significant economic harm”???\n
      > \n
      > Consider forking the repository or mirroring it to another platform like GitLab, Codeberg or your self-hosted Git server, so the project can continue to exist and someone can maybe fork it and maintain it.\n
      > \n
      > The effected repos are: [github.com/Andre0512/hOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/hOn) and [github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn)\n
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      > If you don’t know about Home Assistant, check it out. It’s an amazing piece of open-source software, that you can run at home on your own server and use it to control your smart home devices. That way, you don’t need to connect them to the manufacturer’s (probably insecure) cloud. It gives you sovereignty over your smart home instead of some proprietary vendor-locked garbage. Check out their [website](https://www.home-assistant.io/) and the Lemmy community: !homeassistant@lemmy.world\n
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      > I also highly recommend Louis Rossmann’s video about this: [youtu.be/RcSnd3cyti0](https://youtu.be/RcSnd3cyti0)\n
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      > He makes awesome videos in general, consider subscribing.\n
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      > As Rossmann said, don’t ever buy anything from such a shitty company that doesn’t respect their customers. This move by Haier is nothing other than a slap in the face for everyone, who just wants to comfortably control the product they paid for. This company is actively hostile towards their paying customers. Fuck these bastards!
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          Not the person you asked, but i have a mitsubishi electric heatpump, which i have hooked up to homeassistant via an esphome library. It has a header on the controller board that you can connect to.\n
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          Normally the header is for their $200 controller and app, i spent $10 on the parts.\n
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          [github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump](https://github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump)\n
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          I think i better start mirroring the repo…
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          Yeah, its great. My only complaint is that you cant set the vane positions. And the temp sensors are a bit meaningless due to the height on the wall.\n
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    The IR blasters can usually be flashed with open firmware like tasmota or esphome. I started with IR as well. The downside for me was that IR was one way. You can tell the unit to turn on, but you cant know if it actually did turn on.\n
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    For a cheaper IR option: [www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html)\n
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    If anyone is in Aus and wants some IR blasters with tasmota, happy to ship my spares :D
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      cross-posted from: [lemmy.world/post/10882099](https://lemmy.world/post/10882099)\n
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      > Thankfully I don’t use any of their products, but this really pisses me off. They claim that this open source project “causes significant economic harm to their company”\n
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      > This is ridiculous. It is truly ridiculous. How can something that enables the user to efficiently control their AC cause “significant economic harm”???\n
      > \n
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      > The effected repos are: [github.com/Andre0512/hOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/hOn) and [github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn)\n
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          Not the person you asked, but i have a mitsubishi electric heatpump, which i have hooked up to homeassistant via an esphome library. It has a header on the controller board that you can connect to.\n
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          Yeah, its great. My only complaint is that you cant set the vane positions. And the temp sensors are a bit meaningless due to the height on the wall.\n
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    The IR blasters can usually be flashed with open firmware like tasmota or esphome. I started with IR as well. The downside for me was that IR was one way. You can tell the unit to turn on, but you cant know if it actually did turn on.\n
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    For a cheaper IR option: [www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html)\n
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    If anyone is in Aus and wants some IR blasters with tasmota, happy to ship my spares :D
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      > The effected repos are: [github.com/Andre0512/hOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/hOn) and [github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn)\n
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          [github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump](https://github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump)\n
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          I think i better start mirroring the repo…
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          The IR blasters can usually be flashed with open firmware like tasmota or esphome. I started with IR as well. The downside for me was that IR was one way. You can tell the unit to turn on, but you cant know if it actually did turn on.\n
          \n
          For a cheaper IR option: [www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html)\n
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          If anyone is in Aus and wants some IR blasters with tasmota, happy to ship my spares :D
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      cross-posted from: [lemmy.world/post/10882099](https://lemmy.world/post/10882099)\n
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      > Thankfully I don’t use any of their products, but this really pisses me off. They claim that this open source project “causes significant economic harm to their company”\n
      > \n
      > This is ridiculous. It is truly ridiculous. How can something that enables the user to efficiently control their AC cause “significant economic harm”???\n
      > \n
      > Consider forking the repository or mirroring it to another platform like GitLab, Codeberg or your self-hosted Git server, so the project can continue to exist and someone can maybe fork it and maintain it.\n
      > \n
      > The effected repos are: [github.com/Andre0512/hOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/hOn) and [github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn)\n
      > \n
      > If you don’t know about Home Assistant, check it out. It’s an amazing piece of open-source software, that you can run at home on your own server and use it to control your smart home devices. That way, you don’t need to connect them to the manufacturer’s (probably insecure) cloud. It gives you sovereignty over your smart home instead of some proprietary vendor-locked garbage. Check out their [website](https://www.home-assistant.io/) and the Lemmy community: !homeassistant@lemmy.world\n
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      > I also highly recommend Louis Rossmann’s video about this: [youtu.be/RcSnd3cyti0](https://youtu.be/RcSnd3cyti0)\n
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      > He makes awesome videos in general, consider subscribing.\n
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      > As Rossmann said, don’t ever buy anything from such a shitty company that doesn’t respect their customers. This move by Haier is nothing other than a slap in the face for everyone, who just wants to comfortably control the product they paid for. This company is actively hostile towards their paying customers. Fuck these bastards!
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          Not the person you asked, but i have a mitsubishi electric heatpump, which i have hooked up to homeassistant via an esphome library. It has a header on the controller board that you can connect to.\n
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          Normally the header is for their $200 controller and app, i spent $10 on the parts.\n
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          [github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump](https://github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump)\n
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          I think i better start mirroring the repo…
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          Yeah, its great. My only complaint is that you cant set the vane positions. And the temp sensors are a bit meaningless due to the height on the wall.\n
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          The IR blasters can usually be flashed with open firmware like tasmota or esphome. I started with IR as well. The downside for me was that IR was one way. You can tell the unit to turn on, but you cant know if it actually did turn on.\n
          \n
          For a cheaper IR option: [www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html)\n
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          If anyone is in Aus and wants some IR blasters with tasmota, happy to ship my spares :D
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      cross-posted from: [lemmy.world/post/10882099](https://lemmy.world/post/10882099)\n
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      > Thankfully I don’t use any of their products, but this really pisses me off. They claim that this open source project “causes significant economic harm to their company”\n
      > \n
      > This is ridiculous. It is truly ridiculous. How can something that enables the user to efficiently control their AC cause “significant economic harm”???\n
      > \n
      > Consider forking the repository or mirroring it to another platform like GitLab, Codeberg or your self-hosted Git server, so the project can continue to exist and someone can maybe fork it and maintain it.\n
      > \n
      > The effected repos are: [github.com/Andre0512/hOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/hOn) and [github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn](https://github.com/Andre0512/pyhOn)\n
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      > If you don’t know about Home Assistant, check it out. It’s an amazing piece of open-source software, that you can run at home on your own server and use it to control your smart home devices. That way, you don’t need to connect them to the manufacturer’s (probably insecure) cloud. It gives you sovereignty over your smart home instead of some proprietary vendor-locked garbage. Check out their [website](https://www.home-assistant.io/) and the Lemmy community: !homeassistant@lemmy.world\n
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      > I also highly recommend Louis Rossmann’s video about this: [youtu.be/RcSnd3cyti0](https://youtu.be/RcSnd3cyti0)\n
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      > He makes awesome videos in general, consider subscribing.\n
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      > As Rossmann said, don’t ever buy anything from such a shitty company that doesn’t respect their customers. This move by Haier is nothing other than a slap in the face for everyone, who just wants to comfortably control the product they paid for. This company is actively hostile towards their paying customers. Fuck these bastards!
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          Not the person you asked, but i have a mitsubishi electric heatpump, which i have hooked up to homeassistant via an esphome library. It has a header on the controller board that you can connect to.\n
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          Normally the header is for their $200 controller and app, i spent $10 on the parts.\n
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          [github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump](https://github.com/geoffdavis/esphome-mitsubishiheatpump)\n
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          Yeah, its great. My only complaint is that you cant set the vane positions. And the temp sensors are a bit meaningless due to the height on the wall.\n
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          The IR blasters can usually be flashed with open firmware like tasmota or esphome. I started with IR as well. The downside for me was that IR was one way. You can tell the unit to turn on, but you cant know if it actually did turn on.\n
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          For a cheaper IR option: [www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004486051086.html)\n
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      - Change RAM speed and timings\n
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      ever since I switched to Arch about two months ago, most applications segfault multiple times a day. There doesn’t seem to be any pattern for the crashes, sometimes it’s even happening while idling (e.g. reading a news article).\n
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      - Disable Hardware Acceleration in Firefox\n
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      - Use Openbox instead of KDE\n
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      Some more info about my system:\n
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      - 32GB RAM @ 3200MHz\n
      - Geforce RTX 2070 SUPER (using nvidia-dkms)\n
      - Plasma 5.27.10 on X11\n
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      Let me know if you need any more information that might help solve this issue. Thanks!\n
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      **Edit [solved]:** It looks like disabling PBO in the UEFI/BIOS did the trick. The strange thing is, after enabling it again, it’s still not crashing again. Someone suspected that the MoBo default/training settings were faulty, so I guess this was a very rare case here. That’s probably why it took so long to find a solution. Thanks everyone for helping me out!
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          I jumped to 1.4V which afaik is safe. But i cant guarentee anything. Going up slowly might be better, but stop at 1.4?\n
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          Corsair says 1.4 is safe: [help.corsair.com/…/360052448851-Tips-on-safely-ov…](https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052448851-Tips-on-safely-overclocking-memory)
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    - Utility Scripts: General purpose shell scripts.\n
    - CLI: This will allow for a universal interface to install things on Linux. It will also allow for easier use of Installies on servers.\n
    - Collaboration: Allowing multiple people to directly contribute to scripts without being a maintainer.\n
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    Happy Scripting!\n
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    - Site: [installies.org](https://installies.org)\n
    - Docs: [docs.installies.org](https://docs.installies.org)\n
    - Source: [github.com/Berserkware/installies](https://github.com/Berserkware/installies)
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          The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
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          Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
          \n
          Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
          \n
          ### User Reputation\n
          \n
          This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
          \n
          ### Collaboration\n
          \n
          Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
          \n
          None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
          \n
          I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
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      +body: "Very understandable. And from a security standpoint not necessarily indicitive of anything. A good malicious script would just check its environment first."
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        Yup, there is a lot of prior art on how to get this wrong :(, and I dont know of any good solutions either. Curation and moderation are probably the best case, but arent bulletproof either.\n
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        I raised this not to kill OPs project, but to make sure they go into it eyes open. I personally would be very uncomfortable if my website was being abused to distribute malware, so they deserve to at least be aware of the risks.
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    Hi, for the past few months I have been working on my website Installies. It is a site for managing, organizing, and retrieving shell scripts for use to install, remove, update or compile apps on Linux and Unix-based systems.\n
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    You might be asking why can’t you just use your system’s built-in package manager. While that will work for most apps there might be some problems with others:\n
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    - Some apps might not be on your system’s package manager. This would make it so you might have to compile the app, which might be difficult for newer Linux users.\n
    - Apps you have to run through wine generally are not in package manager’s repositories. They also might need extra libraries that might be complicated to install.\n
    - There might be some weirder software that isn’t really an app, or is not traditionally installed on your computer e.g. TempleOS in a VM.\n
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    As for script security, Installies has a voting and reporting system to help make sure that scripts are safe.\n
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    There are some design choices I am yet to make, so I would like your guy’s input. One of them is if app maintainers should be able to stop non-maintainers from creating scripts on apps. Please comment what you think (also any other feedback).\n
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    - Utility Scripts: General purpose shell scripts.\n
    - CLI: This will allow for a universal interface to install things on Linux. It will also allow for easier use of Installies on servers.\n
    - Collaboration: Allowing multiple people to directly contribute to scripts without being a maintainer.\n
    - User ranking system: A system to rank users by how popular their scripts. This will make it easier for users to judge if a script is good without having to analyze the source.\n
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    As it is in beta, there will be many bugs. If you find any bugs please report them on the GitHub. Feedback and feature requests are also welcome.\n
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    Happy Scripting!\n
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    \n
    - Site: [installies.org](https://installies.org)\n
    - Docs: [docs.installies.org](https://docs.installies.org)\n
    - Source: [github.com/Berserkware/installies](https://github.com/Berserkware/installies)
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          You have probably invested a lot of time and effort into this, so please take this as constructive criticism.\n
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          Your security systems are probably not going to be sufficient, for a whole number of reasons.\n
          \n
          ### Script Voting\n
          \n
          The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
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          Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
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          Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
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          This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
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          Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
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          None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
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          I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
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        Yup, there is a lot of prior art on how to get this wrong :(, and I dont know of any good solutions either. Curation and moderation are probably the best case, but arent bulletproof either.\n
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        I raised this not to kill OPs project, but to make sure they go into it eyes open. I personally would be very uncomfortable if my website was being abused to distribute malware, so they deserve to at least be aware of the risks.
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    Hi, for the past few months I have been working on my website Installies. It is a site for managing, organizing, and retrieving shell scripts for use to install, remove, update or compile apps on Linux and Unix-based systems.\n
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    You might be asking why can’t you just use your system’s built-in package manager. While that will work for most apps there might be some problems with others:\n
    \n
    - Some apps might not be on your system’s package manager. This would make it so you might have to compile the app, which might be difficult for newer Linux users.\n
    - Apps you have to run through wine generally are not in package manager’s repositories. They also might need extra libraries that might be complicated to install.\n
    - There might be some weirder software that isn’t really an app, or is not traditionally installed on your computer e.g. TempleOS in a VM.\n
    - Some apps have different packages for similar versions of the app, so a script that lets you choose between all the options would make it easier to decide which one to install, such as QEMU.\n
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    As for script security, Installies has a voting and reporting system to help make sure that scripts are safe.\n
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    There are some design choices I am yet to make, so I would like your guy’s input. One of them is if app maintainers should be able to stop non-maintainers from creating scripts on apps. Please comment what you think (also any other feedback).\n
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    ##### Future Plans\n
    \n
    - Utility Scripts: General purpose shell scripts.\n
    - CLI: This will allow for a universal interface to install things on Linux. It will also allow for easier use of Installies on servers.\n
    - Collaboration: Allowing multiple people to directly contribute to scripts without being a maintainer.\n
    - User ranking system: A system to rank users by how popular their scripts. This will make it easier for users to judge if a script is good without having to analyze the source.\n
    \n
    As it is in beta, there will be many bugs. If you find any bugs please report them on the GitHub. Feedback and feature requests are also welcome.\n
    \n
    Happy Scripting!\n
    \n
    ##### Links\n
    \n
    - Site: [installies.org](https://installies.org)\n
    - Docs: [docs.installies.org](https://docs.installies.org)\n
    - Source: [github.com/Berserkware/installies](https://github.com/Berserkware/installies)
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          You have probably invested a lot of time and effort into this, so please take this as constructive criticism.\n
          \n
          Your security systems are probably not going to be sufficient, for a whole number of reasons.\n
          \n
          ### Script Voting\n
          \n
          The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
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          Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
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          Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
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          ### User Reputation\n
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          This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
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          ### Collaboration\n
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          Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
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          None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
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          I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
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        Yup, there is a lot of prior art on how to get this wrong :(, and I dont know of any good solutions either. Curation and moderation are probably the best case, but arent bulletproof either.\n
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        I raised this not to kill OPs project, but to make sure they go into it eyes open. I personally would be very uncomfortable if my website was being abused to distribute malware, so they deserve to at least be aware of the risks.
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      There are some design choices I am yet to make, so I would like your guy’s input. One of them is if app maintainers should be able to stop non-maintainers from creating scripts on apps. Please comment what you think (also any other feedback).\n
      \n
      ##### Future Plans\n
      \n
      - Utility Scripts: General purpose shell scripts.\n
      - CLI: This will allow for a universal interface to install things on Linux. It will also allow for easier use of Installies on servers.\n
      - Collaboration: Allowing multiple people to directly contribute to scripts without being a maintainer.\n
      - User ranking system: A system to rank users by how popular their scripts. This will make it easier for users to judge if a script is good without having to analyze the source.\n
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      As it is in beta, there will be many bugs. If you find any bugs please report them on the GitHub. Feedback and feature requests are also welcome.\n
      \n
      Happy Scripting!\n
      \n
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      \n
      - Site: [installies.org](https://installies.org)\n
      - Docs: [docs.installies.org](https://docs.installies.org)\n
      - Source: [github.com/Berserkware/installies](https://github.com/Berserkware/installies)
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            You have probably invested a lot of time and effort into this, so please take this as constructive criticism.\n
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            Your security systems are probably not going to be sufficient, for a whole number of reasons.\n
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            ### Script Voting\n
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            The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
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            Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
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            Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
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            ### User Reputation\n
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            This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
            \n
            ### Collaboration\n
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            Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
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            None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
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            I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
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          Yup, there is a lot of prior art on how to get this wrong :(, and I dont know of any good solutions either. Curation and moderation are probably the best case, but arent bulletproof either.\n
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      - There might be some weirder software that isn’t really an app, or is not traditionally installed on your computer e.g. TempleOS in a VM.\n
      - Some apps have different packages for similar versions of the app, so a script that lets you choose between all the options would make it easier to decide which one to install, such as QEMU.\n
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      As for script security, Installies has a voting and reporting system to help make sure that scripts are safe.\n
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      There are some design choices I am yet to make, so I would like your guy’s input. One of them is if app maintainers should be able to stop non-maintainers from creating scripts on apps. Please comment what you think (also any other feedback).\n
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      ##### Future Plans\n
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      - Utility Scripts: General purpose shell scripts.\n
      - CLI: This will allow for a universal interface to install things on Linux. It will also allow for easier use of Installies on servers.\n
      - Collaboration: Allowing multiple people to directly contribute to scripts without being a maintainer.\n
      - User ranking system: A system to rank users by how popular their scripts. This will make it easier for users to judge if a script is good without having to analyze the source.\n
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      Happy Scripting!\n
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      - Site: [installies.org](https://installies.org)\n
      - Docs: [docs.installies.org](https://docs.installies.org)\n
      - Source: [github.com/Berserkware/installies](https://github.com/Berserkware/installies)
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            You have probably invested a lot of time and effort into this, so please take this as constructive criticism.\n
            \n
            Your security systems are probably not going to be sufficient, for a whole number of reasons.\n
            \n
            ### Script Voting\n
            \n
            The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
            \n
            Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
            \n
            Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
            \n
            ### User Reputation\n
            \n
            This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
            \n
            ### Collaboration\n
            \n
            Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
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            None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
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            I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
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          Yup, there is a lot of prior art on how to get this wrong :(, and I dont know of any good solutions either. Curation and moderation are probably the best case, but arent bulletproof either.\n
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          I raised this not to kill OPs project, but to make sure they go into it eyes open. I personally would be very uncomfortable if my website was being abused to distribute malware, so they deserve to at least be aware of the risks.
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      - Apps you have to run through wine generally are not in package manager’s repositories. They also might need extra libraries that might be complicated to install.\n
      - There might be some weirder software that isn’t really an app, or is not traditionally installed on your computer e.g. TempleOS in a VM.\n
      - Some apps have different packages for similar versions of the app, so a script that lets you choose between all the options would make it easier to decide which one to install, such as QEMU.\n
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      As for script security, Installies has a voting and reporting system to help make sure that scripts are safe.\n
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      There are some design choices I am yet to make, so I would like your guy’s input. One of them is if app maintainers should be able to stop non-maintainers from creating scripts on apps. Please comment what you think (also any other feedback).\n
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      ##### Future Plans\n
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      - Utility Scripts: General purpose shell scripts.\n
      - CLI: This will allow for a universal interface to install things on Linux. It will also allow for easier use of Installies on servers.\n
      - Collaboration: Allowing multiple people to directly contribute to scripts without being a maintainer.\n
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      Happy Scripting!\n
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      - Docs: [docs.installies.org](https://docs.installies.org)\n
      - Source: [github.com/Berserkware/installies](https://github.com/Berserkware/installies)
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            You have probably invested a lot of time and effort into this, so please take this as constructive criticism.\n
            \n
            Your security systems are probably not going to be sufficient, for a whole number of reasons.\n
            \n
            ### Script Voting\n
            \n
            The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
            \n
            Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
            \n
            Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
            \n
            ### User Reputation\n
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            This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
            \n
            ### Collaboration\n
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            Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
            \n
            None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
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            I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
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          Yup, there is a lot of prior art on how to get this wrong :(, and I dont know of any good solutions either. Curation and moderation are probably the best case, but arent bulletproof either.\n
          \n
          I raised this not to kill OPs project, but to make sure they go into it eyes open. I personally would be very uncomfortable if my website was being abused to distribute malware, so they deserve to at least be aware of the risks.
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      Hi, for the past few months I have been working on my website Installies. It is a site for managing, organizing, and retrieving shell scripts for use to install, remove, update or compile apps on Linux and Unix-based systems.\n
      \n
      You might be asking why can’t you just use your system’s built-in package manager. While that will work for most apps there might be some problems with others:\n
      \n
      - Some apps might not be on your system’s package manager. This would make it so you might have to compile the app, which might be difficult for newer Linux users.\n
      - Apps you have to run through wine generally are not in package manager’s repositories. They also might need extra libraries that might be complicated to install.\n
      - There might be some weirder software that isn’t really an app, or is not traditionally installed on your computer e.g. TempleOS in a VM.\n
      - Some apps have different packages for similar versions of the app, so a script that lets you choose between all the options would make it easier to decide which one to install, such as QEMU.\n
      \n
      As for script security, Installies has a voting and reporting system to help make sure that scripts are safe.\n
      \n
      There are some design choices I am yet to make, so I would like your guy’s input. One of them is if app maintainers should be able to stop non-maintainers from creating scripts on apps. Please comment what you think (also any other feedback).\n
      \n
      ##### Future Plans\n
      \n
      - Utility Scripts: General purpose shell scripts.\n
      - CLI: This will allow for a universal interface to install things on Linux. It will also allow for easier use of Installies on servers.\n
      - Collaboration: Allowing multiple people to directly contribute to scripts without being a maintainer.\n
      - User ranking system: A system to rank users by how popular their scripts. This will make it easier for users to judge if a script is good without having to analyze the source.\n
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      As it is in beta, there will be many bugs. If you find any bugs please report them on the GitHub. Feedback and feature requests are also welcome.\n
      \n
      Happy Scripting!\n
      \n
      ##### Links\n
      \n
      - Site: [installies.org](https://installies.org)\n
      - Docs: [docs.installies.org](https://docs.installies.org)\n
      - Source: [github.com/Berserkware/installies](https://github.com/Berserkware/installies)
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            You have probably invested a lot of time and effort into this, so please take this as constructive criticism.\n
            \n
            Your security systems are probably not going to be sufficient, for a whole number of reasons.\n
            \n
            ### Script Voting\n
            \n
            The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
            \n
            Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
            \n
            Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
            \n
            ### User Reputation\n
            \n
            This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
            \n
            ### Collaboration\n
            \n
            Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
            \n
            None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
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            I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
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      Hi, for the past few months I have been working on my website Installies. It is a site for managing, organizing, and retrieving shell scripts for use to install, remove, update or compile apps on Linux and Unix-based systems.\n
      \n
      You might be asking why can’t you just use your system’s built-in package manager. While that will work for most apps there might be some problems with others:\n
      \n
      - Some apps might not be on your system’s package manager. This would make it so you might have to compile the app, which might be difficult for newer Linux users.\n
      - Apps you have to run through wine generally are not in package manager’s repositories. They also might need extra libraries that might be complicated to install.\n
      - There might be some weirder software that isn’t really an app, or is not traditionally installed on your computer e.g. TempleOS in a VM.\n
      - Some apps have different packages for similar versions of the app, so a script that lets you choose between all the options would make it easier to decide which one to install, such as QEMU.\n
      \n
      As for script security, Installies has a voting and reporting system to help make sure that scripts are safe.\n
      \n
      There are some design choices I am yet to make, so I would like your guy’s input. One of them is if app maintainers should be able to stop non-maintainers from creating scripts on apps. Please comment what you think (also any other feedback).\n
      \n
      ##### Future Plans\n
      \n
      - Utility Scripts: General purpose shell scripts.\n
      - CLI: This will allow for a universal interface to install things on Linux. It will also allow for easier use of Installies on servers.\n
      - Collaboration: Allowing multiple people to directly contribute to scripts without being a maintainer.\n
      - User ranking system: A system to rank users by how popular their scripts. This will make it easier for users to judge if a script is good without having to analyze the source.\n
      \n
      As it is in beta, there will be many bugs. If you find any bugs please report them on the GitHub. Feedback and feature requests are also welcome.\n
      \n
      Happy Scripting!\n
      \n
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      \n
      - Site: [installies.org](https://installies.org)\n
      - Docs: [docs.installies.org](https://docs.installies.org)\n
      - Source: [github.com/Berserkware/installies](https://github.com/Berserkware/installies)
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            You have probably invested a lot of time and effort into this, so please take this as constructive criticism.\n
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            Your security systems are probably not going to be sufficient, for a whole number of reasons.\n
            \n
            ### Script Voting\n
            \n
            The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
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            Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
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            Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
            \n
            ### User Reputation\n
            \n
            This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
            \n
            ### Collaboration\n
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            Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
            \n
            None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
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            I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
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          Yup, there is a lot of prior art on how to get this wrong :(, and I dont know of any good solutions either. Curation and moderation are probably the best case, but arent bulletproof either.\n
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          I raised this not to kill OPs project, but to make sure they go into it eyes open. I personally would be very uncomfortable if my website was being abused to distribute malware, so they deserve to at least be aware of the risks.
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      Hi, for the past few months I have been working on my website Installies. It is a site for managing, organizing, and retrieving shell scripts for use to install, remove, update or compile apps on Linux and Unix-based systems.\n
      \n
      You might be asking why can’t you just use your system’s built-in package manager. While that will work for most apps there might be some problems with others:\n
      \n
      - Some apps might not be on your system’s package manager. This would make it so you might have to compile the app, which might be difficult for newer Linux users.\n
      - Apps you have to run through wine generally are not in package manager’s repositories. They also might need extra libraries that might be complicated to install.\n
      - There might be some weirder software that isn’t really an app, or is not traditionally installed on your computer e.g. TempleOS in a VM.\n
      - Some apps have different packages for similar versions of the app, so a script that lets you choose between all the options would make it easier to decide which one to install, such as QEMU.\n
      \n
      As for script security, Installies has a voting and reporting system to help make sure that scripts are safe.\n
      \n
      There are some design choices I am yet to make, so I would like your guy’s input. One of them is if app maintainers should be able to stop non-maintainers from creating scripts on apps. Please comment what you think (also any other feedback).\n
      \n
      ##### Future Plans\n
      \n
      - Utility Scripts: General purpose shell scripts.\n
      - CLI: This will allow for a universal interface to install things on Linux. It will also allow for easier use of Installies on servers.\n
      - Collaboration: Allowing multiple people to directly contribute to scripts without being a maintainer.\n
      - User ranking system: A system to rank users by how popular their scripts. This will make it easier for users to judge if a script is good without having to analyze the source.\n
      \n
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      \n
      Happy Scripting!\n
      \n
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      \n
      - Site: [installies.org](https://installies.org)\n
      - Docs: [docs.installies.org](https://docs.installies.org)\n
      - Source: [github.com/Berserkware/installies](https://github.com/Berserkware/installies)
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            You have probably invested a lot of time and effort into this, so please take this as constructive criticism.\n
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            Your security systems are probably not going to be sufficient, for a whole number of reasons.\n
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            ### Script Voting\n
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            The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
            \n
            Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
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            Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
            \n
            ### User Reputation\n
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            This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
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            ### Collaboration\n
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            Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
            \n
            None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
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            I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
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          Yup, there is a lot of prior art on how to get this wrong :(, and I dont know of any good solutions either. Curation and moderation are probably the best case, but arent bulletproof either.\n
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      Hi, for the past few months I have been working on my website Installies. It is a site for managing, organizing, and retrieving shell scripts for use to install, remove, update or compile apps on Linux and Unix-based systems.\n
      \n
      You might be asking why can’t you just use your system’s built-in package manager. While that will work for most apps there might be some problems with others:\n
      \n
      - Some apps might not be on your system’s package manager. This would make it so you might have to compile the app, which might be difficult for newer Linux users.\n
      - Apps you have to run through wine generally are not in package manager’s repositories. They also might need extra libraries that might be complicated to install.\n
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      - Some apps have different packages for similar versions of the app, so a script that lets you choose between all the options would make it easier to decide which one to install, such as QEMU.\n
      \n
      As for script security, Installies has a voting and reporting system to help make sure that scripts are safe.\n
      \n
      There are some design choices I am yet to make, so I would like your guy’s input. One of them is if app maintainers should be able to stop non-maintainers from creating scripts on apps. Please comment what you think (also any other feedback).\n
      \n
      ##### Future Plans\n
      \n
      - Utility Scripts: General purpose shell scripts.\n
      - CLI: This will allow for a universal interface to install things on Linux. It will also allow for easier use of Installies on servers.\n
      - Collaboration: Allowing multiple people to directly contribute to scripts without being a maintainer.\n
      - User ranking system: A system to rank users by how popular their scripts. This will make it easier for users to judge if a script is good without having to analyze the source.\n
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      Happy Scripting!\n
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      - Docs: [docs.installies.org](https://docs.installies.org)\n
      - Source: [github.com/Berserkware/installies](https://github.com/Berserkware/installies)
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            You have probably invested a lot of time and effort into this, so please take this as constructive criticism.\n
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            Your security systems are probably not going to be sufficient, for a whole number of reasons.\n
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            ### Script Voting\n
            \n
            The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
            \n
            Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
            \n
            Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
            \n
            ### User Reputation\n
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            This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
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            ### Collaboration\n
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            Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
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            None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
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            I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
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    Yup, there is a lot of prior art on how to get this wrong :(, and I dont know of any good solutions either. Curation and moderation are probably the best case, but arent bulletproof either.\n
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    I raised this not to kill OPs project, but to make sure they go into it eyes open. I personally would be very uncomfortable if my website was being abused to distribute malware, so they deserve to at least be aware of the risks.
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      You might be asking why can’t you just use your system’s built-in package manager. While that will work for most apps there might be some problems with others:\n
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      - Some apps might not be on your system’s package manager. This would make it so you might have to compile the app, which might be difficult for newer Linux users.\n
      - Apps you have to run through wine generally are not in package manager’s repositories. They also might need extra libraries that might be complicated to install.\n
      - There might be some weirder software that isn’t really an app, or is not traditionally installed on your computer e.g. TempleOS in a VM.\n
      - Some apps have different packages for similar versions of the app, so a script that lets you choose between all the options would make it easier to decide which one to install, such as QEMU.\n
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      As for script security, Installies has a voting and reporting system to help make sure that scripts are safe.\n
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      There are some design choices I am yet to make, so I would like your guy’s input. One of them is if app maintainers should be able to stop non-maintainers from creating scripts on apps. Please comment what you think (also any other feedback).\n
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      - Utility Scripts: General purpose shell scripts.\n
      - CLI: This will allow for a universal interface to install things on Linux. It will also allow for easier use of Installies on servers.\n
      - Collaboration: Allowing multiple people to directly contribute to scripts without being a maintainer.\n
      - User ranking system: A system to rank users by how popular their scripts. This will make it easier for users to judge if a script is good without having to analyze the source.\n
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      Happy Scripting!\n
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      - Site: [installies.org](https://installies.org)\n
      - Docs: [docs.installies.org](https://docs.installies.org)\n
      - Source: [github.com/Berserkware/installies](https://github.com/Berserkware/installies)
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            You have probably invested a lot of time and effort into this, so please take this as constructive criticism.\n
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            Your security systems are probably not going to be sufficient, for a whole number of reasons.\n
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            ### Script Voting\n
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            The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
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            Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
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            Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
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            This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
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            Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
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            None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
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            I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
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    Yup, there is a lot of prior art on how to get this wrong :(, and I dont know of any good solutions either. Curation and moderation are probably the best case, but arent bulletproof either.\n
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    I raised this not to kill OPs project, but to make sure they go into it eyes open. I personally would be very uncomfortable if my website was being abused to distribute malware, so they deserve to at least be aware of the risks.
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      Hi, for the past few months I have been working on my website Installies. It is a site for managing, organizing, and retrieving shell scripts for use to install, remove, update or compile apps on Linux and Unix-based systems.\n
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      You might be asking why can’t you just use your system’s built-in package manager. While that will work for most apps there might be some problems with others:\n
      \n
      - Some apps might not be on your system’s package manager. This would make it so you might have to compile the app, which might be difficult for newer Linux users.\n
      - Apps you have to run through wine generally are not in package manager’s repositories. They also might need extra libraries that might be complicated to install.\n
      - There might be some weirder software that isn’t really an app, or is not traditionally installed on your computer e.g. TempleOS in a VM.\n
      - Some apps have different packages for similar versions of the app, so a script that lets you choose between all the options would make it easier to decide which one to install, such as QEMU.\n
      \n
      As for script security, Installies has a voting and reporting system to help make sure that scripts are safe.\n
      \n
      There are some design choices I am yet to make, so I would like your guy’s input. One of them is if app maintainers should be able to stop non-maintainers from creating scripts on apps. Please comment what you think (also any other feedback).\n
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      ##### Future Plans\n
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      - Utility Scripts: General purpose shell scripts.\n
      - CLI: This will allow for a universal interface to install things on Linux. It will also allow for easier use of Installies on servers.\n
      - Collaboration: Allowing multiple people to directly contribute to scripts without being a maintainer.\n
      - User ranking system: A system to rank users by how popular their scripts. This will make it easier for users to judge if a script is good without having to analyze the source.\n
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      Happy Scripting!\n
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      \n
      - Site: [installies.org](https://installies.org)\n
      - Docs: [docs.installies.org](https://docs.installies.org)\n
      - Source: [github.com/Berserkware/installies](https://github.com/Berserkware/installies)
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            You have probably invested a lot of time and effort into this, so please take this as constructive criticism.\n
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            Your security systems are probably not going to be sufficient, for a whole number of reasons.\n
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            ### Script Voting\n
            \n
            The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
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            Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
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            Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
            \n
            ### User Reputation\n
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            This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
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            ### Collaboration\n
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            Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
            \n
            None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
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            I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
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    Yup, there is a lot of prior art on how to get this wrong :(, and I dont know of any good solutions either. Curation and moderation are probably the best case, but arent bulletproof either.\n
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    I raised this not to kill OPs project, but to make sure they go into it eyes open. I personally would be very uncomfortable if my website was being abused to distribute malware, so they deserve to at least be aware of the risks.
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      Hi, for the past few months I have been working on my website Installies. It is a site for managing, organizing, and retrieving shell scripts for use to install, remove, update or compile apps on Linux and Unix-based systems.\n
      \n
      You might be asking why can’t you just use your system’s built-in package manager. While that will work for most apps there might be some problems with others:\n
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      - Some apps might not be on your system’s package manager. This would make it so you might have to compile the app, which might be difficult for newer Linux users.\n
      - Apps you have to run through wine generally are not in package manager’s repositories. They also might need extra libraries that might be complicated to install.\n
      - There might be some weirder software that isn’t really an app, or is not traditionally installed on your computer e.g. TempleOS in a VM.\n
      - Some apps have different packages for similar versions of the app, so a script that lets you choose between all the options would make it easier to decide which one to install, such as QEMU.\n
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      As for script security, Installies has a voting and reporting system to help make sure that scripts are safe.\n
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      There are some design choices I am yet to make, so I would like your guy’s input. One of them is if app maintainers should be able to stop non-maintainers from creating scripts on apps. Please comment what you think (also any other feedback).\n
      \n
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      - Utility Scripts: General purpose shell scripts.\n
      - CLI: This will allow for a universal interface to install things on Linux. It will also allow for easier use of Installies on servers.\n
      - Collaboration: Allowing multiple people to directly contribute to scripts without being a maintainer.\n
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      - Docs: [docs.installies.org](https://docs.installies.org)\n
      - Source: [github.com/Berserkware/installies](https://github.com/Berserkware/installies)
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          Yup, there is a lot of prior art on how to get this wrong :(, and I dont know of any good solutions either. Curation and moderation are probably the best case, but arent bulletproof either.\n
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    You have probably invested a lot of time and effort into this, so please take this as constructive criticism.\n
    \n
    Your security systems are probably not going to be sufficient, for a whole number of reasons.\n
    \n
    ### Script Voting\n
    \n
    The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
    \n
    Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
    \n
    Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
    \n
    ### User Reputation\n
    \n
    This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
    \n
    ### Collaboration\n
    \n
    Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
    \n
    None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
    \n
    I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
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      Hi, for the past few months I have been working on my website Installies. It is a site for managing, organizing, and retrieving shell scripts for use to install, remove, update or compile apps on Linux and Unix-based systems.\n
      \n
      You might be asking why can’t you just use your system’s built-in package manager. While that will work for most apps there might be some problems with others:\n
      \n
      - Some apps might not be on your system’s package manager. This would make it so you might have to compile the app, which might be difficult for newer Linux users.\n
      - Apps you have to run through wine generally are not in package manager’s repositories. They also might need extra libraries that might be complicated to install.\n
      - There might be some weirder software that isn’t really an app, or is not traditionally installed on your computer e.g. TempleOS in a VM.\n
      - Some apps have different packages for similar versions of the app, so a script that lets you choose between all the options would make it easier to decide which one to install, such as QEMU.\n
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      As for script security, Installies has a voting and reporting system to help make sure that scripts are safe.\n
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      - Utility Scripts: General purpose shell scripts.\n
      - CLI: This will allow for a universal interface to install things on Linux. It will also allow for easier use of Installies on servers.\n
      - Collaboration: Allowing multiple people to directly contribute to scripts without being a maintainer.\n
      - User ranking system: A system to rank users by how popular their scripts. This will make it easier for users to judge if a script is good without having to analyze the source.\n
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      - Docs: [docs.installies.org](https://docs.installies.org)\n
      - Source: [github.com/Berserkware/installies](https://github.com/Berserkware/installies)
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          Yup, there is a lot of prior art on how to get this wrong :(, and I dont know of any good solutions either. Curation and moderation are probably the best case, but arent bulletproof either.\n
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    You have probably invested a lot of time and effort into this, so please take this as constructive criticism.\n
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    Your security systems are probably not going to be sufficient, for a whole number of reasons.\n
    \n
    ### Script Voting\n
    \n
    The general public is not able to appropriately audit shell scripts. This extends even to sysadmins and more technical people. The people who can properly audit scripts are a minority, and they may not even be amongst your user base. Anyone who gets a script that “does its job” is going to upvote it as fine, because they may not even be aware of its malicious side effects.\n
    \n
    Scripts will naturally need to evolve over time, so script updates will be a normal part of your system. Will the votes reset for new versions? Is there anything stopping someone uploading farming votes with valid scripts, and then backdoor the script once it gets sufficiently popular?\n
    \n
    Is there any form of vote manipulation prevention planned? If not, bad actors can create an army of accounts and upvote their malicious content. Can you remove a users votes if they are found to be acting maliciously? Will it even be possible for you to tell the difference between a naive user who doesn’t understand the maliciousness of the script, versus an account actively increasing the rating of a bad package?\n
    \n
    ### User Reputation\n
    \n
    This seems easy to game as well. Upload a host of valid scripts, gain reputation, and then when ready, upload malicious scripts.\n
    \n
    ### Collaboration\n
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    Allowing non-maintainers to edit and upload scripts seems like a wildly bad idea. There must be some level of maintainer approval for that right? Still will have the same issues, easy for someone to build trust on a script repo and then exploit it when it suits them.\n
    \n
    None of these issues are unique to your site, pypi, dockerhub etc have all hit these issues in the past.\n
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    I think the only real answer is to have very strong human moderation, but I fear that if your site takes off, the workload will rapidly spiral out of control. Otherwise, interesting idea, Good Luck!
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      Hi, for the past few months I have been working on my website Installies. It is a site for managing, organizing, and retrieving shell scripts for use to install, remove, update or compile apps on Linux and Unix-based systems.\n
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      You might be asking why can’t you just use your system’s built-in package manager. While that will work for most apps there might be some problems with others:\n
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      - Some apps might not be on your system’s package manager. This would make it so you might have to compile the app, which might be difficult for newer Linux users.\n
      - Apps you have to run through wine generally are not in package manager’s repositories. They also might need extra libraries that might be complicated to install.\n
      - There might be some weirder software that isn’t really an app, or is not traditionally installed on your computer e.g. TempleOS in a VM.\n
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      As for script security, Installies has a voting and reporting system to help make sure that scripts are safe.\n
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      There are some design choices I am yet to make, so I would like your guy’s input. One of them is if app maintainers should be able to stop non-maintainers from creating scripts on apps. Please comment what you think (also any other feedback).\n
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      ##### Future Plans\n
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      - Utility Scripts: General purpose shell scripts.\n
      - CLI: This will allow for a universal interface to install things on Linux. It will also allow for easier use of Installies on servers.\n
      - Collaboration: Allowing multiple people to directly contribute to scripts without being a maintainer.\n
      - User ranking system: A system to rank users by how popular their scripts. This will make it easier for users to judge if a script is good without having to analyze the source.\n
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      As it is in beta, there will be many bugs. If you find any bugs please report them on the GitHub. Feedback and feature requests are also welcome.\n
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      Happy Scripting!\n
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      \n
      - Site: [installies.org](https://installies.org)\n
      - Docs: [docs.installies.org](https://docs.installies.org)\n
      - Source: [github.com/Berserkware/installies](https://github.com/Berserkware/installies)
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          Yup, there is a lot of prior art on how to get this wrong :(, and I dont know of any good solutions either. Curation and moderation are probably the best case, but arent bulletproof either.\n
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          I raised this not to kill OPs project, but to make sure they go into it eyes open. I personally would be very uncomfortable if my website was being abused to distribute malware, so they deserve to at least be aware of the risks.
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    This just blows my mind and makes me feel sick to my stomach that such company’s like CMG Local Solutions do this sort of thing even exist! 🤢🤮\n
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    Note: I did not want to use the ‘URL’ field in this post to add a direct link to this company as they use a pixel tracker (see post title). I don *not* recommend you visit [it](https://www.cmglocalsolutions.com/cmg-active-listening). Instead, I’ll quote them here:\n
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    > The car lease ends in a month- we need a plan. We need to get serious about planning for retirement. A mini van would be perfect for us. This AC is on it’s last leg! Do I see mold on the ceiling? We need a better mortgage rate.\n
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    > **Create Personas**We create buyer personas by uploading past client data into the platform.\n
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    > **Identify Keywords**We identify top performing keywords relative to the type of customer you are looking for.\n
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    > **Listening**Active Listening begins and is analyzed via AI to detect pertinent conversations via smartphones, smart tvs and other devices.\n
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    > **Re-targeting**We use the list to target your advertising via many different platforms and tactics including:\n
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    > **Claim Your Exclusive Territory Before Your Competitor**Our technology provides a process that makes it possible to know exactly when someone is in the market for your services in real-time, giving you a significant advantage over your competitors. Territories are available in 10 or 20 mile radiuses, but customizations can be made for regional, state and national coverage.\n
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    Here’s the best part! 🤥\n
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    > **We know what you are thinking…**Is this legal? YES- it is totally legal for phones and devices to listen to you. That’s because consumers usually give consent when accepting terms and conditions of software updates or app downloads\n
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    Is it just me or does the world feel more and more everyday like a dystopian nightmare, a bad joke, satire? Ahhhh!\n
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    - Display Ads\n
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    - YouTube\n
    - Mobile Precise\n
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      Note: I did not want to use the ‘URL’ field in this post to add a direct link to this company as they use a pixel tracker (see post title). I don *not* recommend you visit [it](https://www.cmglocalsolutions.com/cmg-active-listening). Instead, I’ll quote them here:\n
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      > **It’s True. Your Devices Are Listening to You.**With Active Listening, CMG can now use voice data to target your advertising to the EXACT people you are looking for.\n
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      > **magine This…**What could it do for your business, if you were able to target potential clients or customers who are using terms like this in their day to day conversations:\n
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      > The car lease ends in a month- we need a plan. We need to get serious about planning for retirement. A mini van would be perfect for us. This AC is on it’s last leg! Do I see mold on the ceiling? We need a better mortgage rate.\n
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      > **Create Personas**We create buyer personas by uploading past client data into the platform.\n
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      > **Listening**Active Listening begins and is analyzed via AI to detect pertinent conversations via smartphones, smart tvs and other devices.\n
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      > **Create a List**With the audience information gathered, an encrypted evergreen audience list is created.\n
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      > **Re-targeting**We use the list to target your advertising via many different platforms and tactics including:\n
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      - Streaming TV/OTT\n
      - Streaming Audio\n
      - Display Ads\n
      - Paid Social Media\n
      - YouTube\n
      - Mobile Precise\n
      - Google/Bing Search (PPC)\n
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      > **Claim Your Exclusive Territory Before Your Competitor**Our technology provides a process that makes it possible to know exactly when someone is in the market for your services in real-time, giving you a significant advantage over your competitors. Territories are available in 10 or 20 mile radiuses, but customizations can be made for regional, state and national coverage.\n
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      Here’s the best part! 🤥\n
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      > **We know what you are thinking…**Is this legal? YES- it is totally legal for phones and devices to listen to you. That’s because consumers usually give consent when accepting terms and conditions of software updates or app downloads\n
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      Is it just me or does the world feel more and more everyday like a dystopian nightmare, a bad joke, satire? Ahhhh!\n
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      What’s your thoughts on this?
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