GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/m/asklemmy@lemmy.ml/t/1059/Why-are-people-anti-Facebook-joining-the-fediverse/votes/down

Response
200 OK
IP
3.133.160.104
Profiled on
Token
dc3c59

Security

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Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

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Authenticators

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
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2 
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12 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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2 DENIED moderate 
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    The arguments I’ve heard about tracking etc are misguided and don’t understand the actual risks.\n
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    Thirdly, these platforms have the know how to deal with spam and they will be incentivised to share that tech with other federated instances.\n
    \n
    Don’t get me wrong, Facebook is an evil company. But I haven’t heard a decent argument as to why them joining the fediverse is a bad thing. We always have the option to defederate in the future.\n
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    Change my mind.
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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3 DENIED edit 
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      Support alternatives:\n
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      - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
      - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
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      ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
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    Secondly, the value in platform’s tracking individuals is for advertising. There is no mechanism for these platforms to identify you browsing the we if your instance federated with threads. Your instance won’t share cookie sessions etc with threads. It doesn’t increase your exposure.\n
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    Change my mind.
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      4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
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      - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
      - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
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      ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
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    The arguments I’ve heard about tracking etc are misguided and don’t understand the actual risks.\n
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    Firstly, posts on the fediverse are already likely being consumed by advertising platforms like Facebook & Google. It would be trivial for big tech companies to setup relays that act as scrapers.\n
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    Secondly, the value in platform’s tracking individuals is for advertising. There is no mechanism for these platforms to identify you browsing the we if your instance federated with threads. Your instance won’t share cookie sessions etc with threads. It doesn’t increase your exposure.\n
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    Thirdly, these platforms have the know how to deal with spam and they will be incentivised to share that tech with other federated instances.\n
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    Don’t get me wrong, Facebook is an evil company. But I haven’t heard a decent argument as to why them joining the fediverse is a bad thing. We always have the option to defederate in the future.\n
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    Change my mind.
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