GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/u/@lemmyvore@feddit.nl/top?p=4

Response
200 OK
IP
3.133.133.61
Profiled on
Token
e00234

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 0.37 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.07 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
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  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1575 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2853 …}
  +slug: "Should-I-use-Restic-Borg-or-Kopia-for-container-backups"
  +title: "Should I use Restic, Borg, or Kopia for container backups?"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    I’m planning to set up proper backups for my server, but I’m not sure which software to use. I’ve looked for solutions with encryption, compressed, incremental backups. These seem to be the best options:\n
    \n
    - [Restic](https://restic.net/) ([GitHub](https://github.com/restic/restic))\n
    - [Borg](https://www.borgbackup.org/) ([GitHub](https://github.com/borgbackup))\n
    - [Kopia](https://kopia.io/) ([GitHub](https://github.com/kopia/kopia/))\n
    \n
    Does anyone have experience with these, and if so, what was your experience?\n
    \n
    EDIT 2023-12-28:\n
    \n
    It seems most people are using Restic of which about half mention using a wrapper such as [resticprofiles](https://github.com/creativeprojects/resticprofile), [creatic](https://github.com/nils-werner/crestic) and [autorestic](https://github.com/cupcakearmy/autorestic).\n
    \n
    | Borg | Restic | Kopia |\n
    |---|---|---|\n
    | 3 | 7 | 5 |
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 38
  +favouriteCount: 85
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1719744126 {#3055
    date: 2024-06-30 12:42:06.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3062 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3064 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3066 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3068 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3070 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3072 …}
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        > if you use the same repository with multiple machines, they have to rebuild their index every time they switch\n
        \n
        I’m a beginner with Borg so sorry in advance if I say something incorrect l. I backup the same files to multiple distinct external HDDs and my solution was to use distinct repos for each one. They have different IDs so the caches are different too. The include/exclude list is redundant but I can live with that.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1703664609 {#1430
        date: 2023-12-27 09:10:09.0 +01:00
      }
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      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
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        "@Nyfure@kbin.social"
        "@TurboLag@lemmings.world"
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      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1668 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1666 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1669 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1549 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1573 …}
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      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://feddit.nl/comment/5587305"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703664609 {#1429
        date: 2023-12-27 09:10:09.0 +01:00
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  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1703590494
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/9958184"
  +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1719784410 {#3043
    date: 2024-06-30 23:53:30.0 +02:00
  }
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703504094 {#3022
    date: 2023-12-25 12:34:54.0 +01:00
  }
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1578
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  +image: null
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  +title: "Should I use Restic, Borg, or Kopia for container backups?"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    I’m planning to set up proper backups for my server, but I’m not sure which software to use. I’ve looked for solutions with encryption, compressed, incremental backups. These seem to be the best options:\n
    \n
    - [Restic](https://restic.net/) ([GitHub](https://github.com/restic/restic))\n
    - [Borg](https://www.borgbackup.org/) ([GitHub](https://github.com/borgbackup))\n
    - [Kopia](https://kopia.io/) ([GitHub](https://github.com/kopia/kopia/))\n
    \n
    Does anyone have experience with these, and if so, what was your experience?\n
    \n
    EDIT 2023-12-28:\n
    \n
    It seems most people are using Restic of which about half mention using a wrapper such as [resticprofiles](https://github.com/creativeprojects/resticprofile), [creatic](https://github.com/nils-werner/crestic) and [autorestic](https://github.com/cupcakearmy/autorestic).\n
    \n
    | Borg | Restic | Kopia |\n
    |---|---|---|\n
    | 3 | 7 | 5 |
    """
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  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 38
  +favouriteCount: 85
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
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    date: 2024-06-30 12:42:06.0 +02:00
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  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
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  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3070 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3072 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#1595
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      +image: null
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      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1654 …}
      +body: """
        > if you use the same repository with multiple machines, they have to rebuild their index every time they switch\n
        \n
        I’m a beginner with Borg so sorry in advance if I say something incorrect l. I backup the same files to multiple distinct external HDDs and my solution was to use distinct repos for each one. They have different IDs so the caches are different too. The include/exclude list is redundant but I can live with that.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1703664609 {#1430
        date: 2023-12-27 09:10:09.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
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        "@Nyfure@kbin.social"
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      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1666 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1669 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1549 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1573 …}
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      +ranking: 0
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    date: 2023-12-25 12:34:54.0 +01:00
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1578
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3060 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1575 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2853 …}
  +slug: "Should-I-use-Restic-Borg-or-Kopia-for-container-backups"
  +title: "Should I use Restic, Borg, or Kopia for container backups?"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    I’m planning to set up proper backups for my server, but I’m not sure which software to use. I’ve looked for solutions with encryption, compressed, incremental backups. These seem to be the best options:\n
    \n
    - [Restic](https://restic.net/) ([GitHub](https://github.com/restic/restic))\n
    - [Borg](https://www.borgbackup.org/) ([GitHub](https://github.com/borgbackup))\n
    - [Kopia](https://kopia.io/) ([GitHub](https://github.com/kopia/kopia/))\n
    \n
    Does anyone have experience with these, and if so, what was your experience?\n
    \n
    EDIT 2023-12-28:\n
    \n
    It seems most people are using Restic of which about half mention using a wrapper such as [resticprofiles](https://github.com/creativeprojects/resticprofile), [creatic](https://github.com/nils-werner/crestic) and [autorestic](https://github.com/cupcakearmy/autorestic).\n
    \n
    | Borg | Restic | Kopia |\n
    |---|---|---|\n
    | 3 | 7 | 5 |
    """
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        > if you use the same repository with multiple machines, they have to rebuild their index every time they switch\n
        \n
        I’m a beginner with Borg so sorry in advance if I say something incorrect l. I backup the same files to multiple distinct external HDDs and my solution was to use distinct repos for each one. They have different IDs so the caches are different too. The include/exclude list is redundant but I can live with that.
        """
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        Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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        And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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        They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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        If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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        A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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        Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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        “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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        Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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        If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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        Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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        They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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        And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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        They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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        If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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        A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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        Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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        “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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        Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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        If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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        Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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        They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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        And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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        They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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        If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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        A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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        Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Wayland will eventually have to support Nvidia one way or another. If they’re seriously considering not doing that I would not bet on its future.
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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          There’s nothing preventing Wayland from working with Nvidia except the political insistence that it be open sourced. Which Nvidia is not interested in, never was, and never will be. And it’s a red herring to begin with.\n
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          TLDR either Wayland bends their stance on open source or their adoption will be severely limited.
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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          Just keep improving the damn thing and people will switch when it’s ready. There’s no convincing needed.
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    Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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    They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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    This, btw, applies to AMD and Intel too. The only choice you get with proprietary hardware that you have to use (like GPUs) is whose dick you want to suck. They’re not your friend and they won’t let community pressure then into decisions.
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Wayland will eventually have to support Nvidia one way or another. If they’re seriously considering not doing that I would not bet on its future.
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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          There’s nothing preventing Wayland from working with Nvidia except the political insistence that it be open sourced. Which Nvidia is not interested in, never was, and never will be. And it’s a red herring to begin with.\n
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          TLDR either Wayland bends their stance on open source or their adoption will be severely limited.
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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          Just keep improving the damn thing and people will switch when it’s ready. There’s no convincing needed.
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    Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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    They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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    This, btw, applies to AMD and Intel too. The only choice you get with proprietary hardware that you have to use (like GPUs) is whose dick you want to suck. They’re not your friend and they won’t let community pressure then into decisions.
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Wayland will eventually have to support Nvidia one way or another. If they’re seriously considering not doing that I would not bet on its future.
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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          There’s nothing preventing Wayland from working with Nvidia except the political insistence that it be open sourced. Which Nvidia is not interested in, never was, and never will be. And it’s a red herring to begin with.\n
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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    Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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    They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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    This, btw, applies to AMD and Intel too. The only choice you get with proprietary hardware that you have to use (like GPUs) is whose dick you want to suck. They’re not your friend and they won’t let community pressure then into decisions.
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Wayland will eventually have to support Nvidia one way or another. If they’re seriously considering not doing that I would not bet on its future.
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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    And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Wayland will eventually have to support Nvidia one way or another. If they’re seriously considering not doing that I would not bet on its future.
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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          There’s nothing preventing Wayland from working with Nvidia except the political insistence that it be open sourced. Which Nvidia is not interested in, never was, and never will be. And it’s a red herring to begin with.\n
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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    And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Wayland will eventually have to support Nvidia one way or another. If they’re seriously considering not doing that I would not bet on its future.
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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          There’s nothing preventing Wayland from working with Nvidia except the political insistence that it be open sourced. Which Nvidia is not interested in, never was, and never will be. And it’s a red herring to begin with.\n
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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    And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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          This, btw, applies to AMD and Intel too. The only choice you get with proprietary hardware that you have to use (like GPUs) is whose dick you want to suck. They’re not your friend and they won’t let community pressure then into decisions.
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Wayland will eventually have to support Nvidia one way or another. If they’re seriously considering not doing that I would not bet on its future.
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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          There’s nothing preventing Wayland from working with Nvidia except the political insistence that it be open sourced. Which Nvidia is not interested in, never was, and never will be. And it’s a red herring to begin with.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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    They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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    If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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          This, btw, applies to AMD and Intel too. The only choice you get with proprietary hardware that you have to use (like GPUs) is whose dick you want to suck. They’re not your friend and they won’t let community pressure then into decisions.
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Wayland will eventually have to support Nvidia one way or another. If they’re seriously considering not doing that I would not bet on its future.
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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          There’s nothing preventing Wayland from working with Nvidia except the political insistence that it be open sourced. Which Nvidia is not interested in, never was, and never will be. And it’s a red herring to begin with.\n
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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    They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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    If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
          \n
          They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
          \n
          This, btw, applies to AMD and Intel too. The only choice you get with proprietary hardware that you have to use (like GPUs) is whose dick you want to suck. They’re not your friend and they won’t let community pressure then into decisions.
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          Seriously, how common is such a scenario that you’d even mention it in this context?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
          \n
          Wayland will eventually have to support Nvidia one way or another. If they’re seriously considering not doing that I would not bet on its future.
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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          There’s nothing preventing Wayland from working with Nvidia except the political insistence that it be open sourced. Which Nvidia is not interested in, never was, and never will be. And it’s a red herring to begin with.\n
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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          Just keep improving the damn thing and people will switch when it’s ready. There’s no convincing needed.
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    They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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    If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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    A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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          Just keep improving the damn thing and people will switch when it’s ready. There’s no convincing needed.
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    A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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          Just keep improving the damn thing and people will switch when it’s ready. There’s no convincing needed.
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    A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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      > “In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!”\n
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      [Nate’s Original Blog Post](https://pointieststick.com/2023/12/26/does-wayland-really-break-everything/)
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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      > “In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!”\n
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      [Nate’s Original Blog Post](https://pointieststick.com/2023/12/26/does-wayland-really-break-everything/)
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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      > “In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!”\n
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      [Nate’s Original Blog Post](https://pointieststick.com/2023/12/26/does-wayland-really-break-everything/)
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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      [Nate’s Original Blog Post](https://pointieststick.com/2023/12/26/does-wayland-really-break-everything/)
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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          This, btw, applies to AMD and Intel too. The only choice you get with proprietary hardware that you have to use (like GPUs) is whose dick you want to suck. They’re not your friend and they won’t let community pressure then into decisions.
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          Seriously, how common is such a scenario that you’d even mention it in this context?
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Wayland will eventually have to support Nvidia one way or another. If they’re seriously considering not doing that I would not bet on its future.
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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          Just keep improving the damn thing and people will switch when it’s ready. There’s no convincing needed.
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    Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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    “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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    There’s nothing preventing Wayland from working with Nvidia except the political insistence that it be open sourced. Which Nvidia is not interested in, never was, and never will be. And it’s a red herring to begin with.\n
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    TLDR either Wayland bends their stance on open source or their adoption will be severely limited.
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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      [Nate’s Original Blog Post](https://pointieststick.com/2023/12/26/does-wayland-really-break-everything/)
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          Seriously, how common is such a scenario that you’d even mention it in this context?
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Wayland will eventually have to support Nvidia one way or another. If they’re seriously considering not doing that I would not bet on its future.
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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          Just keep improving the damn thing and people will switch when it’s ready. There’s no convincing needed.
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    Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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    “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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    There’s nothing preventing Wayland from working with Nvidia except the political insistence that it be open sourced. Which Nvidia is not interested in, never was, and never will be. And it’s a red herring to begin with.\n
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    TLDR either Wayland bends their stance on open source or their adoption will be severely limited.
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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      > “In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!”\n
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      [Nate’s Original Blog Post](https://pointieststick.com/2023/12/26/does-wayland-really-break-everything/)
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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          This, btw, applies to AMD and Intel too. The only choice you get with proprietary hardware that you have to use (like GPUs) is whose dick you want to suck. They’re not your friend and they won’t let community pressure then into decisions.
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          Seriously, how common is such a scenario that you’d even mention it in this context?
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Wayland will eventually have to support Nvidia one way or another. If they’re seriously considering not doing that I would not bet on its future.
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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          Just keep improving the damn thing and people will switch when it’s ready. There’s no convincing needed.
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    Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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    “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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    There’s nothing preventing Wayland from working with Nvidia except the political insistence that it be open sourced. Which Nvidia is not interested in, never was, and never will be. And it’s a red herring to begin with.\n
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    TLDR either Wayland bends their stance on open source or their adoption will be severely limited.
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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      [Nate’s Original Blog Post](https://pointieststick.com/2023/12/26/does-wayland-really-break-everything/)
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          Seriously, how common is such a scenario that you’d even mention it in this context?
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Wayland will eventually have to support Nvidia one way or another. If they’re seriously considering not doing that I would not bet on its future.
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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          There’s nothing preventing Wayland from working with Nvidia except the political insistence that it be open sourced. Which Nvidia is not interested in, never was, and never will be. And it’s a red herring to begin with.\n
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    Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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    If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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    Just keep improving the damn thing and people will switch when it’s ready. There’s no convincing needed.
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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      > “In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!”\n
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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          This, btw, applies to AMD and Intel too. The only choice you get with proprietary hardware that you have to use (like GPUs) is whose dick you want to suck. They’re not your friend and they won’t let community pressure then into decisions.
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          Seriously, how common is such a scenario that you’d even mention it in this context?
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Wayland will eventually have to support Nvidia one way or another. If they’re seriously considering not doing that I would not bet on its future.
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          There’s nothing preventing Wayland from working with Nvidia except the political insistence that it be open sourced. Which Nvidia is not interested in, never was, and never will be. And it’s a red herring to begin with.\n
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    Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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    If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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      > “In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!”\n
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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          This, btw, applies to AMD and Intel too. The only choice you get with proprietary hardware that you have to use (like GPUs) is whose dick you want to suck. They’re not your friend and they won’t let community pressure then into decisions.
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          Seriously, how common is such a scenario that you’d even mention it in this context?
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Wayland will eventually have to support Nvidia one way or another. If they’re seriously considering not doing that I would not bet on its future.
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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    Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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    If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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          This, btw, applies to AMD and Intel too. The only choice you get with proprietary hardware that you have to use (like GPUs) is whose dick you want to suck. They’re not your friend and they won’t let community pressure then into decisions.
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          Seriously, how common is such a scenario that you’d even mention it in this context?
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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          There’s nothing preventing Wayland from working with Nvidia except the political insistence that it be open sourced. Which Nvidia is not interested in, never was, and never will be. And it’s a red herring to begin with.\n
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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          Just keep improving the damn thing and people will switch when it’s ready. There’s no convincing needed.
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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      > “In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!”\n
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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          This, btw, applies to AMD and Intel too. The only choice you get with proprietary hardware that you have to use (like GPUs) is whose dick you want to suck. They’re not your friend and they won’t let community pressure then into decisions.
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          Seriously, how common is such a scenario that you’d even mention it in this context?
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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          There’s nothing preventing Wayland from working with Nvidia except the political insistence that it be open sourced. Which Nvidia is not interested in, never was, and never will be. And it’s a red herring to begin with.\n
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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          Just keep improving the damn thing and people will switch when it’s ready. There’s no convincing needed.
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      > Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of “Wayland breaking everything” isn’t really accurate.\n
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      > “In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!”\n
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      [Nate’s Original Blog Post](https://pointieststick.com/2023/12/26/does-wayland-really-break-everything/)
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          Wow you got that backwards. They don’t do any of that for the sake of Nouveau or Vulkan or Wayland or whatever. They don’t care what people use their open scraps for.\n
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          They open up the minimum they can get away with because it’s ultimately meaningless — their proprietary stuff is still hidden away and it’s not like you can use the parts they open with anything else.\n
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          This, btw, applies to AMD and Intel too. The only choice you get with proprietary hardware that you have to use (like GPUs) is whose dick you want to suck. They’re not your friend and they won’t let community pressure then into decisions.
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          And I’m sure all the other people using 6 monitors on 2 GPUs at the same time will appreciate it.\n
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          Seriously, how common is such a scenario that you’d even mention it in this context?
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          They’ll recant after their usage drops to a fraction. This move makes zero sense no matter how you look at it. As a generalist distro it’s too early to drop X.\n
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          If they want to become a niche distro whose only claim to fame is “we only pack Plasma 6”, big whoop, like there’s any shortage of that. What kind of distro defines itself by what it does *not* offer? And is that the kind of distro that Fedora aims to be?
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          A sizable percentage of Linux users own Nvidia cards and “just buy something else” is not realistic, for many reasons.\n
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          Not supporting Nvidia cards will make Wayland unusable for at least half the Linux desktop users, probably more. Stats I recall range from 50-75%.\n
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          “Just buy non-Nvidia” is not, I repeat, a simple option. Lots of people stick with old GPU models because the price/performance ratio has gone out the window and they cannot afford to drop hundreds or thousands on one. Many others have Nvidia in their laptops.\n
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          There’s nothing preventing Wayland from working with Nvidia except the political insistence that it be open sourced. Which Nvidia is not interested in, never was, and never will be. And it’s a red herring to begin with.\n
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          Yeah I don’t get why some people would think sticking to X is fanboyism. *Nobody likes X*, let alone love it. Most people’s relation to X is pragmatic, it’s “it works and does everything I need”.\n
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          If anything, fanboyism is telling people they have to use Wayland when it doesn’t yet work for what they need it to do.\n
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          Just keep improving the damn thing and people will switch when it’s ready. There’s no convincing needed.
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        All the measures you listed amount to nothing against a zero day remote exploit. They bypass the normal authentication process.\n
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      What is everyone doing? SELinux? AppArmor? Something else?\n
      \n
      I currently leave my nextcloud exposed to the Internet. It runs in a VM behind an nginx reverse proxy on the VM itself, and then my OPNSense router runs nginx with WAF rules. I enforce 2fa and don’t allow sign-ups.\n
      \n
      My goal is protecting against ransomware and zerodays (as much as possible). I don’t do random clicking on links in emails or anything like that, but I’m not sure how people get hit with ransomware. I keep nextcloud updated (subscribed to RSS update feed) frequently and the VM updates everyday and reboots when necessary. I’m running the latest php-fpm and that just comes from repos so it gets updated too. HTTPS on the lan with certificates maintained by my router, and LE certs for the Internet side.\n
      \n
      Beside hiding this thing behind a VPN (which I’m not prepared to do currently), is there anything else I’m overlooking?
      """
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    All the measures you listed amount to nothing against a zero day remote exploit. They bypass the normal authentication process.\n
    \n
    If you’re not able to use a VPN then use a IAM layer, which requires you to login through another method. You can use a dedicated app like Authelia/Authentik in front of the reverse proxy, or if you use nginx as reverse proxy you also have to option of using the vouch-proxy plugin.
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      What is everyone doing? SELinux? AppArmor? Something else?\n
      \n
      I currently leave my nextcloud exposed to the Internet. It runs in a VM behind an nginx reverse proxy on the VM itself, and then my OPNSense router runs nginx with WAF rules. I enforce 2fa and don’t allow sign-ups.\n
      \n
      My goal is protecting against ransomware and zerodays (as much as possible). I don’t do random clicking on links in emails or anything like that, but I’m not sure how people get hit with ransomware. I keep nextcloud updated (subscribed to RSS update feed) frequently and the VM updates everyday and reboots when necessary. I’m running the latest php-fpm and that just comes from repos so it gets updated too. HTTPS on the lan with certificates maintained by my router, and LE certs for the Internet side.\n
      \n
      Beside hiding this thing behind a VPN (which I’m not prepared to do currently), is there anything else I’m overlooking?
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    All the measures you listed amount to nothing against a zero day remote exploit. They bypass the normal authentication process.\n
    \n
    If you’re not able to use a VPN then use a IAM layer, which requires you to login through another method. You can use a dedicated app like Authelia/Authentik in front of the reverse proxy, or if you use nginx as reverse proxy you also have to option of using the vouch-proxy plugin.
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  +slug: "Me-vs-my-ISP"
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    So I was looking into getting port forwarding set up and I realized just how closed-off the internet has gotten since the early days. It’s concerning. It used to be you would buy your own router and connect it to the internet, and that router would control port-forwarding and what-have-you.\n
    \n
    Now, your ISP provides your router, which runs *their* firmware, which (in my case) doesn’t even have the option to enable port forwarding.\n
    \n
    It gets worse - because ISPs are choosing NATs over IPv6, so even if you install a custom firmware on your router without it getting blacklisted by your ISP, you still can’t expose your server to the internet because the NAT refuses to forward traffic your way. They even devise special NAT schemes like symmetric NAT to thwart hole punching.\n
    \n
    Basically this all means that I *have* to purchase my web hosting separately. Or relay all the traffic through an unnecessary third party, introducing a point of failure.\n
    \n
    It’s frustrating.\n
    \n
    I like to control my stuff. I don’t like to depend on other people or be in a position where I have to trust someone not to fuck with my shit. Like, if the only thing outside my apartment that mattered to my website was a DNS record, I’d be really happy with that.\n
    \n
    Edit: TIL ISPs in the US don’t have NATs\n
    \n
    Edit 2: OMG so much advice. My knowledge about computers is SO clearly outdated, I have a lot of things to read up on.\n
    \n
    Edit 3: There’s definitely a CGNAT involved since the WAN ip in the router config is not the same as the one I get when I use a website that echos my IP address. Far as I can tell my devices don’t get unique IPv6 addresses either. (funnily enough, if I check my IP address on my phone using roaming data, there’s no IPv6 address at all). It’s a router/modem combo, at least I think since there’s only one device in my apartment (maybe there’s a modem managing the whole complex or something?). And it doesn’t have a bridge mode, except for OTT. Might try plugging my own router into it, but it feels like a waste of time and money from what I’m seeing. Probably best to just host services over a VPN or smth.\n
    \n
    Edit 4: Devices do get unique IPv6 addresses, but it’s moot since I can’t do anything but ping them. I guess it wouldn’t be port forwarding but something else that I would have to do that my router doesn’t support
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        Are you trying to offer a port for peer sharing (XDCC/BT)? I’ve never tried using it like this but I think [Tailscale Funnel](https://tailscale.com/blog/reintroducing-serve-funnel) could work.\n
        \n
        It’s a sort of reverse VPN, I guess you could call it. Tailscale maintains the public IP and when someone connects to your advertised port they tunnel it to you through (encrypted) WireGuard. It passes through NAT because connections are outgoing to their servers.\n
        \n
        The catch is that wireguard is easily detectable through deep packet inspection so if your ISP is a real asshole they can kill the connections, but if they go that far then NAT traversal is the least of your worries.
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