GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/m/asklemmy@lemmy.ml/t/973/Dilemma-with-contributing-to-niche-Communities-on-Instances-federating-with/comment/9952/votes/down

Response
200 OK
IP
3.22.242.175
Profiled on
Token
e0dc7e

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
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context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
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  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
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Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
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  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
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  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
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 0.13 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
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}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
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  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.03 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
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  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
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  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
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Access decision log

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1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
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      \n
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      \n
      1. Open-ended\n
      2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
      3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
      4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
      5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
      \n
      Support alternatives:\n
      \n
      - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
      - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
      - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
      \n
      ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
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    Current implementation seems to focus on administrative domains for control, like email servers with individual policies and reputations. What if we look at this the other way?\n
    \n
    People have different value systems. Are you ok with promotion for monetary gain? (No never / only individual contributors promoting themselves / only small businesses and below / yes) Are you annoyed by $controversial_topic? Do you dislike when bored people make a conversation game out of someone else’s need for obscure technical help?\n
    \n
    The details can be decided later by people smarter than me. The point, though, is that these value systems aren’t universal. Users should decide their own.\n
    \n
    Meta interactions (up down report friend block) should be aligned to these values. My client would gather meta-mod data as well as votes/comments. I could easily configure my client to hide things, or group similar distractions together and show/hide them all together. Your client could work differently.\n
    \n
    I have no idea how we would possibly implement this with federation. Civically minded users create a meta-moderation identity with a PGP key, sign and publish their decisions, and let people choose to trust them based on past behavior?\n
    \n
    Probably still flawed, susceptible to karma farming and cashing out. If well known mods start betraying their users, the bad activities are signed and can be used as proof they can no longer be trusted, though it could take days to get people to stop trusting someone.\n
    \n
    Even the whole value system idea can be subverted. Dog whistles, toxic in-jokes, things which are offensive in context but seem fine judged later out of context, etc.\n
    \n
    But I want this for us all. (And I vaguely remember seeing something similar on slashdot in the 90s) I have no idea if Lemmy can even support it though.
    """
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1366
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      A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
      \n
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      \n
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      \n
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      2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
      3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
      4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
      5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
      \n
      Support alternatives:\n
      \n
      - [!lemmy_support@lemmy.ml](https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy_support)\n
      - [!nostupidlemmyquestions@lemmy.dbzer0.com](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/nostupidlemmyquestions)\n
      - [!selfhosted@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/selfhosted)\n
      \n
      ~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
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    Current implementation seems to focus on administrative domains for control, like email servers with individual policies and reputations. What if we look at this the other way?\n
    \n
    People have different value systems. Are you ok with promotion for monetary gain? (No never / only individual contributors promoting themselves / only small businesses and below / yes) Are you annoyed by $controversial_topic? Do you dislike when bored people make a conversation game out of someone else’s need for obscure technical help?\n
    \n
    The details can be decided later by people smarter than me. The point, though, is that these value systems aren’t universal. Users should decide their own.\n
    \n
    Meta interactions (up down report friend block) should be aligned to these values. My client would gather meta-mod data as well as votes/comments. I could easily configure my client to hide things, or group similar distractions together and show/hide them all together. Your client could work differently.\n
    \n
    I have no idea how we would possibly implement this with federation. Civically minded users create a meta-moderation identity with a PGP key, sign and publish their decisions, and let people choose to trust them based on past behavior?\n
    \n
    Probably still flawed, susceptible to karma farming and cashing out. If well known mods start betraying their users, the bad activities are signed and can be used as proof they can no longer be trusted, though it could take days to get people to stop trusting someone.\n
    \n
    Even the whole value system idea can be subverted. Dog whistles, toxic in-jokes, things which are offensive in context but seem fine judged later out of context, etc.\n
    \n
    But I want this for us all. (And I vaguely remember seeing something similar on slashdot in the 90s) I have no idea if Lemmy can even support it though.
    """
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1366
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      A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions\n
      \n
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      \n
      If your post meets the following criteria, it’s welcome here!\n
      \n
      1. Open-ended\n
      2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions\n
      3. **Not regarding using or support for Lemmy**: [context](https://lemmy.ml/post/1223478), find help in the list of support alternatives below\n
      4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members\n
      5. [An actual topic of discussion](https://lemmy.ml/post/1239589)\n
      \n
      Support alternatives:\n
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    Current implementation seems to focus on administrative domains for control, like email servers with individual policies and reputations. What if we look at this the other way?\n
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    People have different value systems. Are you ok with promotion for monetary gain? (No never / only individual contributors promoting themselves / only small businesses and below / yes) Are you annoyed by $controversial_topic? Do you dislike when bored people make a conversation game out of someone else’s need for obscure technical help?\n
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    The details can be decided later by people smarter than me. The point, though, is that these value systems aren’t universal. Users should decide their own.\n
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    I have no idea how we would possibly implement this with federation. Civically minded users create a meta-moderation identity with a PGP key, sign and publish their decisions, and let people choose to trust them based on past behavior?\n
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    Probably still flawed, susceptible to karma farming and cashing out. If well known mods start betraying their users, the bad activities are signed and can be used as proof they can no longer be trusted, though it could take days to get people to stop trusting someone.\n
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    But I want this for us all. (And I vaguely remember seeing something similar on slashdot in the 90s) I have no idea if Lemmy can even support it though.
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