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It is some no-name brand, and doesn\\u2019t have tilt sensitivity, a virtual eraser, or more mouse buttons on the stylus.  Since as far as I can recall, Wacom\\u2019s kinda been the leader, and if someone was going to be doing serious freehand artwork, I suspect that that\\u2019s probably where I\\u2019d recommend going.<\\/p>\\\\n<p>My favorite drawing software would depend a very great deal on what the task is.<\\/p>\\\\n<p><strong>Natural-media<\\/strong><\\/p>\\\\n<p>I used to be interested in watercolor simulation, read research papers on it.  I have not been blown away by what software I\\u2019ve seen that tries to simulate the physical interactions of watercolor paint has managed to do.  Less interested in simulation of ink drawings, but I\\u2019ve played with natural-media software that tries to simulate it.  Again, not blown away.<\\/p>\\\\n<p>In 2025, if I wanted to make something that looked like a watercolor or most other forms of natural media, I\\u2019d probably use a generative AI, maybe start with an image and rely on the generative AI to simulate the natural media effect.  I don\\u2019t think that computer simulations of natural-media painting that I\\u2019ve seen are as effective.<\\/p>\\\\n<p>If I were required to do it freehand myself, given that I don\\u2019t have any proprietary Windows natural-media digital painting software sitting around and last I looked \\u2014 a very long time ago \\u2014 that was probably the most-sophisticated, I\\u2019d probably use <a href=\\\\\\\"https:\\/\\/krita.org\\/en\\/\\\\\\\" rel=\\\\\\\"nofollow\\\\\\\"><em>Krita<\\/em><\\/a>.  I generally prefer <a href=\\\\\\\"https:\\/\\/www.gimp.org\\/\\\\\\\" rel=\\\\\\\"nofollow\\\\\\\"><em>Gimp<\\/em><\\/a> for image manipulation stuff, but <em>Krita<\\/em> has, as I recall, more natural-media stuff.<\\/p>\\\\n<p><strong>Pretty much anything else done by hand and raster<\\/strong><\\/p>\\\\n<p><a href=\\\\\\\"https:\\/\\/www.gimp.org\\/\\\\\\\" rel=\\\\\\\"nofollow\\\\\\\"><em>Gimp<\\/em><\\/a>.<\\/p>\\\\n<p><strong>Vector, freehand or manually-placed elements<\\/strong><\\/p>\\\\n<p><a href=\\\\\\\"https:\\/\\/inkscape.org\\/\\\\\\\" rel=\\\\\\\"nofollow\\\\\\\"><em>Inkscape<\\/em><\\/a>.  I\\u2019ve never done anything meaningful freehand in it, though, and never used a tablet with it, so I have no idea what support is like.  I imagine that it probably can generate paths with variable-width depending upon tilt and pressure and stuff, though.  I\\u2019ve used it to lay out vector graphics with a mouse, and it\\u2019s been fine for what it is.<\\/p>\\\\n<p><strong>Vector, technical 3D stuff<\\/strong><\\/p>\\\\n<p><em>Blender<\\/em>, if it wasn\\u2019t something intended for the actual real world.  Looks like Blender can generate isometric technical drawings.<\\/p>\\\\n<p><img src=\\\\\\\"https:\\/\\/lemmy.today\\/pictrs\\/image\\/a1ec0986-acb0-4ca8-8513-aca20366a669.jpeg\\\\\\\" alt=\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\" \\/><\\/p>\\\\n<p>I\\u2019ve never used <a href=\\\\\\\"https:\\/\\/www.freecad.org\\/\\\\\\\" rel=\\\\\\\"nofollow\\\\\\\"><em>FreeCAD<\\/em><\\/a> to generate technical drawings, but I\\u2019d bet that it can do the above.  It can do parametric modeling, probably more useful for modeling things where you actually care about the model representing something that\\u2019s gonna be in the real world.  I bet it can do cutaway views and stuff too.<\\/p>\\\\n<p><em>investigates<\\/em><\\/p>\\\\n<p>Yeah:<\\/p>\\\\n<p><img src=\\\\\\\"https:\\/\\/lemmy.today\\/pictrs\\/image\\/294b15d8-6cb6-4939-8fed-dbd5485af6d3.png\\\\\\\" alt=\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\" \\/><\\/p>\\\\n<p>Though they <a href=\\\\\\\"https:\\/\\/wiki.freecad.org\\/TechDraw_Workbench\\\\\\\" rel=\\\\\\\"nofollow\\\\\\\">recommend<\\/a> other 2D CAD packages if you don\\u2019t need 3D support:<\\/p>\\\\n<blockquote>\\\\n<p>If your primary goal is the production of complex 2D drawings and DXF files, and you don\\u2019t need 3D modelling, FreeCAD may not be the right choice for you. You may wish to consider a dedicated software program for technical drafting instead, such as LibreCAD or QCad.<\\/p>\\\\n<\\/blockquote>\\\\n<p><strong>Vector, generating from code<\\/strong><\\/p>\\\\n<p>Maybe <a href=\\\\\\\"https:\\/\\/en.wikipedia.org\\/wiki\\/MetaPost\\\\\\\" rel=\\\\\\\"nofollow\\\\\\\"><em>Metapost<\\/em><\\/a>.  It\\u2019s been a long time since I\\u2019ve used it.  Maybe <a href=\\\\\\\"https:\\/\\/en.wikipedia.org\\/wiki\\/Asymptote_%28vector_graphics_language%29\\\\\\\" rel=\\\\\\\"nofollow\\\\\\\"><em>Asymptote<\\/em><\\/a>.<\\/p>\\\\n<p>For 3D stuff, I\\u2019ve used <a href=\\\\\\\"https:\\/\\/en.wikipedia.org\\/wiki\\/OpenSCAD\\\\\\\" rel=\\\\\\\"nofollow\\\\\\\"><em>OpenSCAD<\\/em><\\/a> much more recently to procedurally generate 3D objects to be created by a 3D printer.  Doesn\\u2019t look like it can generate technical drawings akin to the above CAD packages, though.  I guess that you could probably model something in it, then import it as STL to <em>FreeCAD<\\/em> and use that to render a technical drawing, though.<\\/p>\\\\n\\\",\\\"inReplyTo\\\":\\\"https:\\/\\/sh.itjust.works\\/post\\/36690995\\\",\\\"mediaType\\\":\\\"text\\/html\\\",\\\"source\\\":{\\\"content\\\":\\\"I only have one digital drawing device, a tablet that I have sitting around somewhere and never really bother to pull out because I virtually never do the sort of freehand stuff that it\'d be useful for.  It is some no-name brand, and doesn\'t have tilt sensitivity, a virtual eraser, or more mouse buttons on the stylus.  Since as far as I can recall, Wacom\'s kinda been the leader, and if someone was going to be doing serious freehand artwork, I suspect that that\'s probably where I\'d recommend going.\\\\n\\\\nMy favorite drawing software would depend a very great deal on what the task is.\\\\n\\\\n**Natural-media**\\\\n\\\\nI used to be interested in watercolor simulation, read research papers on it.  I have not been blown away by what software I\'ve seen that tries to simulate the physical interactions of watercolor paint has managed to do.  Less interested in simulation of ink drawings, but I\'ve played with natural-media software that tries to simulate it.  Again, not blown away.\\\\n\\\\nIn 2025, if I wanted to make something that looked like a watercolor or most other forms of natural media, I\'d probably use a generative AI, maybe start with an image and rely on the generative AI to simulate the natural media effect.  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I imagine that it probably can generate paths with variable-width depending upon tilt and pressure and stuff, though.  I\'ve used it to lay out vector graphics with a mouse, and it\'s been fine for what it is. \\\\n\\\\n**Vector, technical 3D stuff**\\\\n\\\\n*Blender*, if it wasn\'t something intended for the actual real world.  Looks like Blender can generate isometric technical drawings.\\\\n\\\\n![](https:\\/\\/lemmy.today\\/pictrs\\/image\\/a1ec0986-acb0-4ca8-8513-aca20366a669.jpeg)\\\\n\\\\nI\'ve never used [*FreeCAD*](https:\\/\\/www.freecad.org\\/) to generate technical drawings, but I\'d bet that it can do the above.  It can do parametric modeling, probably more useful for modeling things where you actually care about the model representing something that\'s gonna be in the real world.  I bet it can do cutaway views and stuff too.\\\\n\\\\n*investigates*\\\\n\\\\nYeah:\\\\n\\\\n![](https:\\/\\/lemmy.today\\/pictrs\\/image\\/294b15d8-6cb6-4939-8fed-dbd5485af6d3.png)\\\\n\\\\nThough they [recommend](https:\\/\\/wiki.freecad.org\\/TechDraw_Workbench) other 2D CAD packages if you don\'t need 3D support:\\\\n\\\\n> If your primary goal is the production of complex 2D drawings and DXF files, and you don\'t need 3D modelling, FreeCAD may not be the right choice for you. You may wish to consider a dedicated software program for technical drafting instead, such as LibreCAD or QCad. \\\\n\\\\n**Vector, generating from code**\\\\n\\\\nMaybe [*Metapost*](https:\\/\\/en.wikipedia.org\\/wiki\\/MetaPost).  It\'s been a long time since I\'ve used it.  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