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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
4.06 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.07 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1831
  +user: App\Entity\User {#2472 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1872 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1479 …}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "No other company will contribute to LXD now. This is 100% a Canonical tool. Were the big clouds looking at deploying LXD so Canonical tried to block them?"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 6
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1706086572 {#1919
    date: 2024-01-24 09:56:12.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@wiki_me@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1684 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1658 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1832 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2484 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1359 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1939 …}
  -id: 239012
  -bodyTs: "'100':11 'big':17 'block':27 'canon':13,24 'cloud':18 'compani':3 'contribut':5 'deploy':21 'look':19 'lxd':7,22 'tool':14 'tri':25"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://programming.dev/comment/5848031"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703114609 {#2397
    date: 2023-12-21 00:23:29.0 +01:00
  }
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1831
  +user: App\Entity\User {#2472 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1872 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1479 …}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "No other company will contribute to LXD now. This is 100% a Canonical tool. Were the big clouds looking at deploying LXD so Canonical tried to block them?"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 6
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1706086572 {#1919
    date: 2024-01-24 09:56:12.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@wiki_me@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1684 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1658 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1832 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2484 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1359 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1939 …}
  -id: 239012
  -bodyTs: "'100':11 'big':17 'block':27 'canon':13,24 'cloud':18 'compani':3 'contribut':5 'deploy':21 'look':19 'lxd':7,22 'tool':14 'tri':25"
  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://programming.dev/comment/5848031"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703114609 {#2397
    date: 2023-12-21 00:23:29.0 +01:00
  }
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#1831
  +user: App\Entity\User {#2472 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1872 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1479 …}
  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: "No other company will contribute to LXD now. This is 100% a Canonical tool. Were the big clouds looking at deploying LXD so Canonical tried to block them?"
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 6
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1706086572 {#1919
    date: 2024-01-24 09:56:12.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@wiki_me@lemmy.ml"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1684 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1658 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1832 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2484 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1359 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1939 …}
  -id: 239012
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  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://programming.dev/comment/5848031"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703114609 {#2397
    date: 2023-12-21 00:23:29.0 +01:00
  }
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2130
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2140 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1872 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1479 …}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#1831
    +user: App\Entity\User {#2472 …}
    +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1872 …}
    +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1479 …}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "No other company will contribute to LXD now. This is 100% a Canonical tool. Were the big clouds looking at deploying LXD so Canonical tried to block them?"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 6
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1706086572 {#1919
      date: 2024-01-24 09:56:12.0 +01:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@wiki_me@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1684 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1658 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1832 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2484 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1359 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1939 …}
    -id: 239012
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    +commentCount: 0
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://programming.dev/comment/5848031"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703114609 {#2397
      date: 2023-12-21 00:23:29.0 +01:00
    }
  }
  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#1831}
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  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 8
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1703141364 {#2129
    date: 2023-12-21 07:49:24.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
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    "@thesmokingman@programming.dev"
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  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2092 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2041 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2104 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2046 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2045 …}
  -id: 239775
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  +ranking: 0
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  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
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  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703141364 {#2133
    date: 2023-12-21 07:49:24.0 +01:00
  }
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
7 DENIED edit
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2130
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2140 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1872 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1479 …}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#1831
    +user: App\Entity\User {#2472 …}
    +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1872 …}
    +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1479 …}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
    +body: "No other company will contribute to LXD now. This is 100% a Canonical tool. Were the big clouds looking at deploying LXD so Canonical tried to block them?"
    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 6
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1706086572 {#1919
      date: 2024-01-24 09:56:12.0 +01:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +tags: null
    +mentions: [
      "@wiki_me@lemmy.ml"
    ]
    +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1684 …}
    +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1658 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1832 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2484 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1359 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1939 …}
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    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703114609 {#2397
      date: 2023-12-21 00:23:29.0 +01:00
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  +root: App\Entity\EntryComment {#1831}
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  +isAdult: false
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    date: 2023-12-21 07:49:24.0 +01:00
  }
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
8 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2130
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  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1872 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1479 …}
  +image: null
  +parent: App\Entity\EntryComment {#1831
    +user: App\Entity\User {#2472 …}
    +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1872 …}
    +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1479 …}
    +image: null
    +parent: null
    +root: null
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    +lang: "en"
    +isAdult: false
    +favouriteCount: 6
    +score: 0
    +lastActive: DateTime @1706086572 {#1919
      date: 2024-01-24 09:56:12.0 +01:00
    }
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      date: 2023-12-21 00:23:29.0 +01:00
    }
  }
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      In short incus has [Apache 2.0](https://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0) copyright licene that states:\n
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      While [AGPL v3.0](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.en.html) that Canonical just adopted states:\n
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          Projects which choose BSD/Apache type licences do so fully in the knowledge that their code may be incorporated into projects with different licences. That’s literally the point: it’s considered a feature of the licence. These projects are explicitly OK with their code going proprietary, for example. If they weren’t OK with it, they’d use a GPL-type copyleft licence instead, as that’s conversely the literal point of *those* licences.\n
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                So they can happily port over code from the Incus fork but Incus cannot import the code without changing the license first. It’s meant to be a one-way street. Typical Canonical.
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          Projects which choose BSD/Apache type licences do so fully in the knowledge that their code may be incorporated into projects with different licences. That’s literally the point: it’s considered a feature of the licence. These projects are explicitly OK with their code going proprietary, for example. If they weren’t OK with it, they’d use a GPL-type copyleft licence instead, as that’s conversely the literal point of *those* licences.\n
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    Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright)
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        > They would have used a license like SSPL or the newer BSL for that. AGPL keeps it open.\n
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        No, the copyright owner can sell proprietary versions however they like. Outside contributions are required to sign Canonical’s CLA. Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright) before making claims.
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        > They would have used a license like SSPL or the newer BSL for that. AGPL keeps it open.\n
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    > I don’t understand how AGPL allows Canonical to make and sell proprietary copies of this software without violating their license. That’s the only way your scenario could happen.\n
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    The FSF made an FAQ page for a reason: [www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPL…](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPLAndNF)\n
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              Look, I’m usually first in line to shit on Canonical, but I can’t get mad at them adopting AGPL. This is objectively the best license for server software. Incus should also switch to AGPL for all Canonical code, and seek to have contributors license their code as AGPL as well.\n
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                Look, I’m usually first in line to shit on Canonical, but I can’t get mad at them adopting AGPL. This is objectively the best license for server software. Incus should also switch to AGPL for all Canonical code, and seek to have contributors license their code as AGPL as well.\n
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          > They would have used a license like SSPL or the newer BSL for that. AGPL keeps it open.\n
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          No, the copyright owner can sell proprietary versions however they like. Outside contributions are required to sign Canonical’s CLA. Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright) before making claims.
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      > I don’t understand how AGPL allows Canonical to make and sell proprietary copies of this software without violating their license. That’s the only way your scenario could happen.\n
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      The FSF made an FAQ page for a reason: [www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPL…](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPLAndNF)\n
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                Look, I’m usually first in line to shit on Canonical, but I can’t get mad at them adopting AGPL. This is objectively the best license for server software. Incus should also switch to AGPL for all Canonical code, and seek to have contributors license their code as AGPL as well.\n
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          > They would have used a license like SSPL or the newer BSL for that. AGPL keeps it open.\n
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          No, the copyright owner can sell proprietary versions however they like. Outside contributions are required to sign Canonical’s CLA. Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright) before making claims.
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      > I don’t understand how AGPL allows Canonical to make and sell proprietary copies of this software without violating their license. That’s the only way your scenario could happen.\n
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      The FSF made an FAQ page for a reason: [www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPL…](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPLAndNF)\n
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      Canonical read the FAQ, many people here didn’t.
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      > I don’t understand how AGPL allows Canonical to make and sell proprietary copies of this software without violating their license. That’s the only way your scenario could happen.\n
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      The FSF made an FAQ page for a reason: [www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPL…](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPLAndNF)\n
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      Canonical read the FAQ, many people here didn’t.
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                  Look, I’m usually first in line to shit on Canonical, but I can’t get mad at them adopting AGPL. This is objectively the best license for server software. Incus should also switch to AGPL for all Canonical code, and seek to have contributors license their code as AGPL as well.\n
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            > They would have used a license like SSPL or the newer BSL for that. AGPL keeps it open.\n
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            No, the copyright owner can sell proprietary versions however they like. Outside contributions are required to sign Canonical’s CLA. Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright) before making claims.
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        > I don’t understand how AGPL allows Canonical to make and sell proprietary copies of this software without violating their license. That’s the only way your scenario could happen.\n
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        The FSF made an FAQ page for a reason: [www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPL…](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPLAndNF)\n
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        Canonical read the FAQ, many people here didn’t.
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                  Look, I’m usually first in line to shit on Canonical, but I can’t get mad at them adopting AGPL. This is objectively the best license for server software. Incus should also switch to AGPL for all Canonical code, and seek to have contributors license their code as AGPL as well.\n
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            > They would have used a license like SSPL or the newer BSL for that. AGPL keeps it open.\n
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            No, the copyright owner can sell proprietary versions however they like. Outside contributions are required to sign Canonical’s CLA. Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright) before making claims.
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        > I don’t understand how AGPL allows Canonical to make and sell proprietary copies of this software without violating their license. That’s the only way your scenario could happen.\n
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        The FSF made an FAQ page for a reason: [www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPL…](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPLAndNF)\n
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        Canonical read the FAQ, many people here didn’t.
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                  Look, I’m usually first in line to shit on Canonical, but I can’t get mad at them adopting AGPL. This is objectively the best license for server software. Incus should also switch to AGPL for all Canonical code, and seek to have contributors license their code as AGPL as well.\n
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            > They would have used a license like SSPL or the newer BSL for that. AGPL keeps it open.\n
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            No, the copyright owner can sell proprietary versions however they like. Outside contributions are required to sign Canonical’s CLA. Read [github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/…/CONTRIBUTING.md#l…](https://github.com/canonical/lxd/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#license-and-copyright) before making claims.
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        > I don’t understand how AGPL allows Canonical to make and sell proprietary copies of this software without violating their license. That’s the only way your scenario could happen.\n
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        The FSF made an FAQ page for a reason: [www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPL…](https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#ReleaseUnderGPLAndNF)\n
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          Look, I’m usually first in line to shit on Canonical, but I can’t get mad at them adopting AGPL. This is objectively the best license for server software. Incus should also switch to AGPL for all Canonical code, and seek to have contributors license their code as AGPL as well.\n
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        Look, I’m usually first in line to shit on Canonical, but I can’t get mad at them adopting AGPL. This is objectively the best license for server software. Incus should also switch to AGPL for all Canonical code, and seek to have contributors license their code as AGPL as well.\n
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    The full details are complex but I’ll give you the basic gist. The original GPL licenses essentially say that if you give somebody the compiled binary, they are legally entitled to have the source code as well, along with the rights to modify and redistribute it so long as they too follow the same rules. It creates a system where code flows down freely like water.\n
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