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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
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            Aside from philosophical issues my experience with Flatpak has been excellent. There’s some [theming steps](https://itsfoss.com/flatpak-app-apply-theme/) you need to do to make them feel like regular apps, which I feel is clunky design. No Flatpak-induced instability from what I can tell. Setting up directory permissions is sometimes slightly annoying but [Flatseal](https://flathub.org/apps/com.github.tchx84.Flatseal) makes it trivial, and most Flatpak permissions are set up properly out of the box these days.\n
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    You must not have xdg-desktop-portal-gtk.\n
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    I think one recent release was also bugged but it’s fixed if up to date.
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        GTK_THEME is a development env var, it’s not expected to work in many cases. For example GtkSettings:gtk-theme won’t even contain it so apps can be confused.\n
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    You must not have xdg-desktop-portal-gtk.\n
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    I think one recent release was also bugged but it’s fixed if up to date.
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              Aside from philosophical issues my experience with Flatpak has been excellent. There’s some [theming steps](https://itsfoss.com/flatpak-app-apply-theme/) you need to do to make them feel like regular apps, which I feel is clunky design. No Flatpak-induced instability from what I can tell. Setting up directory permissions is sometimes slightly annoying but [Flatseal](https://flathub.org/apps/com.github.tchx84.Flatseal) makes it trivial, and most Flatpak permissions are set up properly out of the box these days.\n
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      You must not have xdg-desktop-portal-gtk.\n
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    I do have `xdg-desktop-portal-gtk` on Debian Stable, which is currently at 1.14.1-1. I’ll look around to see if there’s more documentation on this method, because I would prefer to not use the debug variables if possible.\n
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      You must not have xdg-desktop-portal-gtk.\n
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    I do have `xdg-desktop-portal-gtk` on Debian Stable, which is currently at 1.14.1-1. I’ll look around to see if there’s more documentation on this method, because I would prefer to not use the debug variables if possible.\n
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              Aside from philosophical issues my experience with Flatpak has been excellent. There’s some [theming steps](https://itsfoss.com/flatpak-app-apply-theme/) you need to do to make them feel like regular apps, which I feel is clunky design. No Flatpak-induced instability from what I can tell. Setting up directory permissions is sometimes slightly annoying but [Flatseal](https://flathub.org/apps/com.github.tchx84.Flatseal) makes it trivial, and most Flatpak permissions are set up properly out of the box these days.\n
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    I do have `xdg-desktop-portal-gtk` on Debian Stable, which is currently at 1.14.1-1. I’ll look around to see if there’s more documentation on this method, because I would prefer to not use the debug variables if possible.\n
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                Aside from philosophical issues my experience with Flatpak has been excellent. There’s some [theming steps](https://itsfoss.com/flatpak-app-apply-theme/) you need to do to make them feel like regular apps, which I feel is clunky design. No Flatpak-induced instability from what I can tell. Setting up directory permissions is sometimes slightly annoying but [Flatseal](https://flathub.org/apps/com.github.tchx84.Flatseal) makes it trivial, and most Flatpak permissions are set up properly out of the box these days.\n
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            GTK_THEME is a development env var, it’s not expected to work in many cases. For example GtkSettings:gtk-theme won’t even contain it so apps can be confused.\n
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        You must not have xdg-desktop-portal-gtk.\n
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      I do have `xdg-desktop-portal-gtk` on Debian Stable, which is currently at 1.14.1-1. I’ll look around to see if there’s more documentation on this method, because I would prefer to not use the debug variables if possible.\n
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    The way to test what GTK actually gets is this command:\n
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                Aside from philosophical issues my experience with Flatpak has been excellent. There’s some [theming steps](https://itsfoss.com/flatpak-app-apply-theme/) you need to do to make them feel like regular apps, which I feel is clunky design. No Flatpak-induced instability from what I can tell. Setting up directory permissions is sometimes slightly annoying but [Flatseal](https://flathub.org/apps/com.github.tchx84.Flatseal) makes it trivial, and most Flatpak permissions are set up properly out of the box these days.\n
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            GTK_THEME is a development env var, it’s not expected to work in many cases. For example GtkSettings:gtk-theme won’t even contain it so apps can be confused.\n
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            The post details exactly how it works but yes it’s only about GTK.
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        You must not have xdg-desktop-portal-gtk.\n
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      I do have `xdg-desktop-portal-gtk` on Debian Stable, which is currently at 1.14.1-1. I’ll look around to see if there’s more documentation on this method, because I would prefer to not use the debug variables if possible.\n
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    The way to test what GTK actually gets is this command:\n
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                Aside from philosophical issues my experience with Flatpak has been excellent. There’s some [theming steps](https://itsfoss.com/flatpak-app-apply-theme/) you need to do to make them feel like regular apps, which I feel is clunky design. No Flatpak-induced instability from what I can tell. Setting up directory permissions is sometimes slightly annoying but [Flatseal](https://flathub.org/apps/com.github.tchx84.Flatseal) makes it trivial, and most Flatpak permissions are set up properly out of the box these days.\n
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            GTK_THEME is a development env var, it’s not expected to work in many cases. For example GtkSettings:gtk-theme won’t even contain it so apps can be confused.\n
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            The post details exactly how it works but yes it’s only about GTK.
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        You must not have xdg-desktop-portal-gtk.\n
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      I do have `xdg-desktop-portal-gtk` on Debian Stable, which is currently at 1.14.1-1. I’ll look around to see if there’s more documentation on this method, because I would prefer to not use the debug variables if possible.\n
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                  Aside from philosophical issues my experience with Flatpak has been excellent. There’s some [theming steps](https://itsfoss.com/flatpak-app-apply-theme/) you need to do to make them feel like regular apps, which I feel is clunky design. No Flatpak-induced instability from what I can tell. Setting up directory permissions is sometimes slightly annoying but [Flatseal](https://flathub.org/apps/com.github.tchx84.Flatseal) makes it trivial, and most Flatpak permissions are set up properly out of the box these days.\n
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              +body: "I wasn’t able to get the `gsettings` method to work (I’m on Wayland KDE), and that article doesn’t say anything about theming QT Flatpaks. Also, after “installing” my GTK theme as a flatpak via the method described, it still wasn’t available to my GTK Flatpaks via the `GTK_THEME` method. The steps in the itsfoss.com article do work, though there’s been a lot of squabbles about the “proper” way to expose themes to Flatpaks. Regardless, this all goes back to my point that theming Flatpak is clunky and should be much smoother."
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              GTK_THEME is a development env var, it’s not expected to work in many cases. For example GtkSettings:gtk-theme won’t even contain it so apps can be confused.\n
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              The post details exactly how it works but yes it’s only about GTK.
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          You must not have xdg-desktop-portal-gtk.\n
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          I think one recent release was also bugged but it’s fixed if up to date.
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    That gets my normal GTK theme properly. I found a little more discussion on this [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/17ks2mo/adwaita_gtk3_theme_not_working_on_flatpacks/). Nothing very actionable but I did also confirm that my `xdg-desktop-portal-gtk` is running. It seems like this is supposed to be working, but I have a mostly stock Debian 12.1 KDE install and something seems to be wrong somewhere in the chain. I’ve also tried multiple GTK Flatpaks with the same results.\n
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                  Aside from philosophical issues my experience with Flatpak has been excellent. There’s some [theming steps](https://itsfoss.com/flatpak-app-apply-theme/) you need to do to make them feel like regular apps, which I feel is clunky design. No Flatpak-induced instability from what I can tell. Setting up directory permissions is sometimes slightly annoying but [Flatseal](https://flathub.org/apps/com.github.tchx84.Flatseal) makes it trivial, and most Flatpak permissions are set up properly out of the box these days.\n
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              GTK_THEME is a development env var, it’s not expected to work in many cases. For example GtkSettings:gtk-theme won’t even contain it so apps can be confused.\n
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        I do have `xdg-desktop-portal-gtk` on Debian Stable, which is currently at 1.14.1-1. I’ll look around to see if there’s more documentation on this method, because I would prefer to not use the debug variables if possible.\n
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    That gets my normal GTK theme properly. I found a little more discussion on this [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/17ks2mo/adwaita_gtk3_theme_not_working_on_flatpacks/). Nothing very actionable but I did also confirm that my `xdg-desktop-portal-gtk` is running. It seems like this is supposed to be working, but I have a mostly stock Debian 12.1 KDE install and something seems to be wrong somewhere in the chain. I’ve also tried multiple GTK Flatpaks with the same results.\n
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                  Aside from philosophical issues my experience with Flatpak has been excellent. There’s some [theming steps](https://itsfoss.com/flatpak-app-apply-theme/) you need to do to make them feel like regular apps, which I feel is clunky design. No Flatpak-induced instability from what I can tell. Setting up directory permissions is sometimes slightly annoying but [Flatseal](https://flathub.org/apps/com.github.tchx84.Flatseal) makes it trivial, and most Flatpak permissions are set up properly out of the box these days.\n
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              GTK_THEME is a development env var, it’s not expected to work in many cases. For example GtkSettings:gtk-theme won’t even contain it so apps can be confused.\n
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          You must not have xdg-desktop-portal-gtk.\n
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          I think one recent release was also bugged but it’s fixed if up to date.
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        I do have `xdg-desktop-portal-gtk` on Debian Stable, which is currently at 1.14.1-1. I’ll look around to see if there’s more documentation on this method, because I would prefer to not use the debug variables if possible.\n
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      The way to test what GTK actually gets is this command:\n
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    That gets my normal GTK theme properly. I found a little more discussion on this [here](https://old.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/17ks2mo/adwaita_gtk3_theme_not_working_on_flatpacks/). Nothing very actionable but I did also confirm that my `xdg-desktop-portal-gtk` is running. It seems like this is supposed to be working, but I have a mostly stock Debian 12.1 KDE install and something seems to be wrong somewhere in the chain. I’ve also tried multiple GTK Flatpaks with the same results.\n
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    > I haven’t noticed any start-time delays when launching Flatpaks as opposed to regular apps\n
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    Same on Gnome software\n
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