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It was pretty obvious from my comment that I live in a European city with a subway…\n
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
\n
If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "Whats your point? I explained why I find capitalism to be a fair system and further elaborated on what I concidered “fair”. What are you trying to say or are you just trolling?"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
\n
If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "Whats your point? I explained why I find capitalism to be a fair system and further elaborated on what I concidered “fair”. What are you trying to say or are you just trolling?"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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+body: "Would you mind elaborating on the “original libertarianism”? What doed that mean exactly? Could really find much…"
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "Whats your point? I explained why I find capitalism to be a fair system and further elaborated on what I concidered “fair”. What are you trying to say or are you just trolling?"
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "If that were the case (which it isnt) I dont see a problem defending billionaires (and on the side also everybody’s freedom and justice)…"
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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+body: "Would you mind elaborating on the “original libertarianism”? What doed that mean exactly? Could really find much…"
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
\n
By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
\n
> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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+body: "Yeah of course thats why there are regulations in place. Nobldy would trust that milj seller again though, so for cases that are not as bad as a human life being ended, the system would still work…"
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+body: "Would you mind elaborating on the “original libertarianism”? What doed that mean exactly? Could really find much…"
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
\n
If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
\n
If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
\n
If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
\n
However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
\n
> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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+body: "Would you mind elaborating on the “original libertarianism”? What doed that mean exactly? Could really find much…"
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
\n
If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
\n
> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
\n
The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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+body: "Would you mind elaborating on the “original libertarianism”? What doed that mean exactly? Could really find much…"
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
\n
If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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+body: "The dictionaries say otherwise. But sure, if “capitalist” just means a person thats very succesful and uses their power for the bad, then they are obviously not good to society but that doesnt make the system of capitalism any worse…"
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Is there any system that is more fair and/or gives you more freedom? I havent found any.\n
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On a hypothetically completely free capitalist market, I can sell and buy whatever I wish and the value that I get when selling directly correlates to the value I’m bringing to the buyer. If I generated a lot of value, I have more capital so I can also buy more value using that capital. Sounds fantastic in theory.
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Thats still very much generalizing. What this meme essentially says is that if you’re a capitalist, you’re not part of Lemmy.\n
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On a seperate note, you cant possibly know how many people on Lemmy actually support capitalism or not. It has a left tendency, yes, but I bet the majority of Lemmx users do support caputalidm in some shape or form.
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Alright, Im fine with that definition, thanks for clarifying that.\n
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However, if I invest part of my money (eg. into stocks or ETFs) as you do if you want to start saving money, that would make me a capitalist, wouldnt it? Your previous comment kind of made it seem like all capitalists are evil and rich af…
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Fairness is subjective. To me it means: everyone is free to do what they like WITHOUT invading anybody elses freedom; if a person performs well, they should be rewarded well; everyone should have the same initial possibilities in life.\n
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The version of capitalism I was talking about is capitalism with a regulated market. Basic needs should be covered (except if you refuse to contributr anything at all). Im pretty happy with the “social market economy” in Germany where I currently live.
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> But how am I gonna get someone to work for me without invading their freedom to choose to do what they want?\n
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By offering them something in return…? Money for example, from which one can buy nice things.\n
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> That’s how we do it! That’s what gets people working for me - the threat that not doing so will put 'em on the street!\n
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Not contributing anything at all wont work in any system or sosciety. Or in what system can I lay in bed all day and get everything I need for free?
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You can do what you like but you asked me how to get people working for you so I made a proposal.\n
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Do you actually have a point or are you just being ridiculous because you have no arguments?
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Im not wealthy by any means, though the wealth cant be the deciding factor, can it?\n
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If Im a student with a savings plan (one where you put aside money every month and invest it [not sure if thats the correct Engkish term]) so it grows over time, am I a capitalist in your opinion?\n
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> The raw materials of trade and production are fixed quantities so any profit must come from paying the worker less than their labor produces.\n
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The finished product is worth more than what their labour produces, otherwise they could just sell the product themselves. Because the organization, strategy, marketing and the needed capital for all of that are values in itself.\n
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A quick question about that trading example, as far as I know market manipulation is illegal so using that to your advantage wouldnt worky right?
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> ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc)\n
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> An ethnocentric state in a land inhabited by other religions and ethnicities.\n
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> ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc)\n
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> An ethnocentric state in a land inhabited by other religions and ethnicities.\n
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> ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc)\n
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> ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc)\n
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> An ethnocentric state in a land inhabited by other religions and ethnicities.\n
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> ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc)\n
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> ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc)\n
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> An ethnocentric state in a land inhabited by other religions and ethnicities.\n
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What exactly justifies the takedown of Israel? That its religion is different or what? Thats none of ghe other countries business.
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> ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc)\n
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> An ethnocentric state in a land inhabited by other religions and ethnicities.\n
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> ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc)\n
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> ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc)\n
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No. Would you say its justified to attack the US today (because of that genocide)? I certainly wouldnt.
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> An ethnocentric state in a land inhabited by other religions and ethnicities.\n
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> ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc)\n
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> An ethnocentric state in a land inhabited by other religions and ethnicities.\n
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> An ethnocentric state in a land inhabited by other religions and ethnicities.\n
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What exactly justifies the takedown of Israel? That its religion is different or what? Thats none of ghe other countries business.
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> was the US justified in genociding native americans also?\n
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> ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc)\n
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> An ethnocentric state in a land inhabited by other religions and ethnicities.\n
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> ethnoreligious state that excludes people of other ethnicities (Arabs, Africans, etc) and other religions (Muslims, Christians, etc)\n
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So what? Thats their business what rules they want to have inside their country. Thats nl reason to attack them.\n
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> forced expulsion of those people, so it must be taken down and the genocide must cease.\n
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Forced expulsion is dtill inside their own country. So you take them down with a genocide yourself? Fight fire with fire?
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