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Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).\n \n Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n \n ### Rules\n \n - Posts must be relevant to operating systems running the Linux kernel. 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Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n > \n > ---\n > \n > **Motivation**\n > \n > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n > \n > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n > \n > **My setup:**\n > \n > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n > \n > **Questions:**\n > \n > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n > - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n > - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why? 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I’ve briefly shared my experience with neo(vim) and emacs [here](https://www-gem.codeberg.page/vim_why-not-another-text-editor/). Going into all the details would require writing an encyclopedia because they’re both so vast topics. I think the main factor of choice would be to know if you prefer to build your own perfect tool with just what you need and expand as you go (*i.e.* neovim) or just have a do-it-all ready tool right out of the box (*i.e.* emacs). Both will require some coding and maintenance anyway. In that regards, I personaly found neovim to be easier and more reliable but mileage may vary based on your needs and preferences. After years using vim 20 years ago, I made a break. Then I used emacs for a year before eventually going back to neovim. I would certainly recommend it vs vim and I would suggest starting from scratch (no lazyvim or similar) so you clearly understand how things work. This will certainly be useful in the long run anyway and that’ll eventually save you time. 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Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n > \n > ---\n > \n > **Motivation**\n > \n > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n > \n > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n > \n > **My setup:**\n > \n > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n > \n > **Questions:**\n > \n > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n > - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n > - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why? 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I’ve briefly shared my experience with neo(vim) and emacs [here](https://www-gem.codeberg.page/vim_why-not-another-text-editor/). Going into all the details would require writing an encyclopedia because they’re both so vast topics. I think the main factor of choice would be to know if you prefer to build your own perfect tool with just what you need and expand as you go (*i.e.* neovim) or just have a do-it-all ready tool right out of the box (*i.e.* emacs). Both will require some coding and maintenance anyway. In that regards, I personaly found neovim to be easier and more reliable but mileage may vary based on your needs and preferences. After years using vim 20 years ago, I made a break. Then I used emacs for a year before eventually going back to neovim. I would certainly recommend it vs vim and I would suggest starting from scratch (no lazyvim or similar) so you clearly understand how things work. This will certainly be useful in the long run anyway and that’ll eventually save you time. 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Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n > \n > ---\n > \n > **Motivation**\n > \n > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n > \n > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n > \n > **My setup:**\n > \n > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n > \n > **Questions:**\n > \n > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. 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Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n > \n > ---\n > \n > **Motivation**\n > \n > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n > \n > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n > \n > **My setup:**\n > \n > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n > \n > **Questions:**\n > \n > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n > - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n > - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why? 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I’ve briefly shared my experience with neo(vim) and emacs [here](https://www-gem.codeberg.page/vim_why-not-another-text-editor/). Going into all the details would require writing an encyclopedia because they’re both so vast topics. I think the main factor of choice would be to know if you prefer to build your own perfect tool with just what you need and expand as you go (*i.e.* neovim) or just have a do-it-all ready tool right out of the box (*i.e.* emacs). Both will require some coding and maintenance anyway. In that regards, I personaly found neovim to be easier and more reliable but mileage may vary based on your needs and preferences. After years using vim 20 years ago, I made a break. Then I used emacs for a year before eventually going back to neovim. I would certainly recommend it vs vim and I would suggest starting from scratch (no lazyvim or similar) so you clearly understand how things work. This will certainly be useful in the long run anyway and that’ll eventually save you time. 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Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n > \n > ---\n > \n > **Motivation**\n > \n > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n > \n > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n > \n > **My setup:**\n > \n > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n > \n > **Questions:**\n > \n > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n > - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n > - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why? 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I’ve briefly shared my experience with neo(vim) and emacs [here](https://www-gem.codeberg.page/vim_why-not-another-text-editor/). Going into all the details would require writing an encyclopedia because they’re both so vast topics. I think the main factor of choice would be to know if you prefer to build your own perfect tool with just what you need and expand as you go (*i.e.* neovim) or just have a do-it-all ready tool right out of the box (*i.e.* emacs). Both will require some coding and maintenance anyway. In that regards, I personaly found neovim to be easier and more reliable but mileage may vary based on your needs and preferences. After years using vim 20 years ago, I made a break. Then I used emacs for a year before eventually going back to neovim. I would certainly recommend it vs vim and I would suggest starting from scratch (no lazyvim or similar) so you clearly understand how things work. This will certainly be useful in the long run anyway and that’ll eventually save you time. 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Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n > \n > ---\n > \n > **Motivation**\n > \n > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n > \n > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n > \n > **My setup:**\n > \n > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n > \n > **Questions:**\n > \n > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n > - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n > - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why? 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I’ve briefly shared my experience with neo(vim) and emacs [here](https://www-gem.codeberg.page/vim_why-not-another-text-editor/). Going into all the details would require writing an encyclopedia because they’re both so vast topics. I think the main factor of choice would be to know if you prefer to build your own perfect tool with just what you need and expand as you go (*i.e.* neovim) or just have a do-it-all ready tool right out of the box (*i.e.* emacs). Both will require some coding and maintenance anyway. In that regards, I personaly found neovim to be easier and more reliable but mileage may vary based on your needs and preferences. After years using vim 20 years ago, I made a break. Then I used emacs for a year before eventually going back to neovim. I would certainly recommend it vs vim and I would suggest starting from scratch (no lazyvim or similar) so you clearly understand how things work. This will certainly be useful in the long run anyway and that’ll eventually save you time. 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Some of the most basic IDE-functions are absent by default and some (perhaps more advanced) functionality might simply not be attainable at all.\n > - I am not interested in anything that remotely resembles a flame war. The community at Lemmy has so far been very kind to me; let’s keep it that way 😜.\n > \n > ---\n > \n > **Motivation**\n > \n > I’ve had experiences with Atom, VS Code and some of Jetbrains’ IDEs like Pycharm and Rider. While I’ve been generally content with all of them, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth whenever I’m forced to switch IDEs because their lifetimes and/or lack of extensibility doesn’t allow me to responsibly continue using them. As such, I’m interested in a long time investment that will grow as I will. Both Emacs and (Neo)Vim have passed the test of time and I honestly don’t think they’ll cease to exist in the upcoming decades, that’s why I would love to start using either one of them.\n > \n > Furthermore, Vi(m) keybindings seem to be somewhat ubiquitous and almost any IDE offers some support. As such, improving my Vi(m)-game should only net-positive my productivity (at least eventually). Also, fluency will benefit me whenever I’m remote accessing any random server as they will always have Vi(m) installed. Thankfully, this doesn’t force me to use Vi(m) (or Neovim) just yet, because Emacs offers with Evil perhaps the single best Vi(m) implementation; outside of native Vi(m)*.\n > \n > **My setup:**\n > \n > - I’m on a custom image of [uBlue](https://ublue.it) using their [startingpoint](https://github.com/ublue-os/startingpoint) as template. For those unaware; an oversimplification would be that it is Fedora Silverblue with some extras.\n > - As such, I would like to have my developer environments local and have used [Distrobox](https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox) to that extent using steps similar to the ones outlined over [here](https://blog.niklas.tech/intellij-and-java-on-immutable-linux). But I’m not married to that specific way of utilizing local containers. So please feel free to recommend me something that’s at least as good.\n > - If I go for Emacs, then I will definitely rely on Evil.\n > - If possible, I would like to use it for C#, Python and Rust. Furthermore, I engage in editing Bash scripts, Dockerfiles, Linux config files, texts written in Latex and/or Markdown and other files written in Nix or JSON. As both are very extensible, I don’t expect any issues, but I might be wrong.\n > \n > **Questions:**\n > \n > - First of all, does it make sense for me to only consider these two?\n > - Can the split between Vim and Neovim be interpreted as the first schism and as such be a forebode for what’s yet to come?\n > - [Google Trends](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=%2Fm%2F07zh7,%2Fg%2F11f3w6p14d,%2Fm%2F01yp0m&hl=en-US) suggests that Neo(Vim) is ever-popular. On the other hand; not only is Emacs relatively less popular, but its popularity seems to be slightly declining. Should this worry me regarding their long-time future? Especially considering that a thriving community is literally the lifeline for both of them.\n > - For those that have used both extensively, which one do you prefer (if any) and why?\n > - While I understand that the power of both of them lies primarily in how one can literally make them behave however suits their workflow best. Therefore, the use of premade configs and/or starter kits/distributions should (ideally) only be used either temporary or as a starting point. However, at this point, they provide a decent showcase of what each *‘platform’* has to offer. So: \n > - Regarding Emacs; [Doom Emacs](https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs) or [Spacemacs](https://github.com/syl20bnr/spacemacs)? And why?\n > - Regarding Neovim; there are a lot, but the big ones seem to be [AstroNvim](https://github.com/AstroNvim/AstroNvim), [LazyVim](https://github.com/LazyVim/LazyVim), [LunarVim](https://github.com/LunarVim/LunarVim) and [NvChad](https://github.com/NvChad/NvChad). Which one and why? 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I’ve briefly shared my experience with neo(vim) and emacs [here](https://www-gem.codeberg.page/vim_why-not-another-text-editor/). Going into all the details would require writing an encyclopedia because they’re both so vast topics. I think the main factor of choice would be to know if you prefer to build your own perfect tool with just what you need and expand as you go (*i.e.* neovim) or just have a do-it-all ready tool right out of the box (*i.e.* emacs). Both will require some coding and maintenance anyway. In that regards, I personaly found neovim to be easier and more reliable but mileage may vary based on your needs and preferences. After years using vim 20 years ago, I made a break. Then I used emacs for a year before eventually going back to neovim. I would certainly recommend it vs vim and I would suggest starting from scratch (no lazyvim or similar) so you clearly understand how things work. This will certainly be useful in the long run anyway and that’ll eventually save you time. 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| Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#3872 +label: "Turbo mode (experimental)" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_TURBO" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
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| user_settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.30 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Mark new comments" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS" ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#3930 +label: "Mark new comments" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_MARK_NEW_COMMENTS" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
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| settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.19 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Show "Support Us" block" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK" "defaultValue" => true ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#3993 +label: "Show "Support Us" block" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_GENERAL_SUPPORT_US_BLOCK" +defaultValue: true +reloadRequired: true } |
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| user_settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.22 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Show subscribed users" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS" ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#4051 +label: "Show subscribed users" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_USERS" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
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| user_settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.22 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Show subscribed magazines" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES" ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#4107 +label: "Show subscribed magazines" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_MAGAZINES" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
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| user_settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.19 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Show subscribed domains" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS" ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\UserSettingsRowSwitchComponent {#4163 +label: "Show subscribed domains" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_SUB_CHANNEL_DOMAINS" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
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| settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.18 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Auto media preview" "help" => "Automatically expand media previews." "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW" ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#4219 +label: "Auto media preview" +help: "Automatically expand media previews." +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_PREVIEW" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
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| settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.15 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Compact view" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT" ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#4275 +label: "Compact view" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_COMPACT" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
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| settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.15 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Show users’ avatars" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS" ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#4331 +label: "Show users’ avatars" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
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| settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.17 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Show magazines’ icons" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS" ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#4387 +label: "Show magazines’ icons" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_MAGAZINES_ICONS" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
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| settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.20 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Show thumbnails" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS" "defaultValue" => true ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#4443 +label: "Show thumbnails" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_ENTRIES_SHOW_THUMBNAILS" +defaultValue: true +reloadRequired: true } |
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| settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.33 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Auto media preview" "help" => "Automatically expand media previews." "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW" ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#4499 +label: "Auto media preview" +help: "Automatically expand media previews." +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_PREVIEW" +defaultValue: false +reloadRequired: true } |
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| settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.13 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Show users’ avatars" "settingsKey" => "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS" "defaultValue" => true ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#4555 +label: "Show users’ avatars" +help: "" +settingsKey: "KBIN_POSTS_SHOW_USERS_AVATARS" +defaultValue: true +reloadRequired: true } |
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| settings_row_enum | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.15 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Comment reply position" "help" => "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top." "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION" "values" => [ [ "name" => "top" "value" => "TOP" ] [ "name" => "bottom" "value" => "BOTTOM" ] ] "defaultValue" => "TOP" ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowEnumComponent {#4611 +label: "Comment reply position" +help: "Display the comment reply form either at the top or bottom of the page. When 'infinite scroll' is enabled the position will always appear at the top." +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_REPLY_POSITION" +values: [ [ "name" => "top" "value" => "TOP" ] [ "name" => "bottom" "value" => "BOTTOM" ] ] +defaultValue: "TOP" +reloadRequired: true } |
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| settings_row_switch | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.13 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "label" => "Show Comment Avatars" "help" => "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post." "settingsKey" => "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR" "defaultValue" => true ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\SettingsRowSwitchComponent {#4669 +label: "Show Comment Avatars" +help: "Display/hide user avatars when viewing comments on a single thread or post." +settingsKey: "KBIN_COMMENTS_SHOW_USER_AVATAR" +defaultValue: true +reloadRequired: true } |
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| user_actions | App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.61 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "user" => App\Entity\User {#265 +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …} +cover: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#247 …} +email: "wwwgem@lemmy.ml" +username: "@wwwgem@lemmy.ml" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: "A space biologist by training and a (Arch)Linux user by passion #ArchLinux #Linux #KISS #FOSS #terminal, #python <https://www-gem.codeberg.page>" +lastActive: DateTime @1729539403 {#275 : 2024-10-21 21:36:43.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: false +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: true +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: true +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: true +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: true +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#236 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#232 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#221 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#179 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#151 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#124 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#94 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#67 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#82 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1372 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1594 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1873 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1769 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1809 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2390 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1860 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1857 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1791 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2401 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2480 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1373 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2413 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1867 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1920 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1395 …} -id: 86842 -password: "$2y$13$vJK6FccW0rsstpFJiKChZOdYgv54PwvBjGGijk0sEi7nJxDIuxzAa" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1953 …} +apId: "wwwgem@lemmy.ml" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/u/wwwgem" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/u/wwwgem" +apFollowersUrl: null +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.ml" +apPreferredUsername: "wwwgem" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1706680745 {#269 : 2024-01-31 06:59:05.0 +01:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1706680744 {#268 : 2024-01-31 06:59:04.0 +01:00 } } ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\UserActionsComponent {#4746 +user: App\Entity\User {#265 +avatar: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#246 …} +cover: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#247 …} +email: "wwwgem@lemmy.ml" +username: "@wwwgem@lemmy.ml" +roles: [] +followersCount: 0 +homepage: "front" +about: "A space biologist by training and a (Arch)Linux user by passion #ArchLinux #Linux #KISS #FOSS #terminal, #python <https://www-gem.codeberg.page>" +lastActive: DateTime @1729539403 {#275 : 2024-10-21 21:36:43.0 +02:00 } +markedForDeletionAt: null +fields: null +oauthGithubId: null +oauthGoogleId: null +oauthFacebookId: null +oauthKeycloakId: null +hideAdult: true +showSubscribedUsers: true +showSubscribedMagazines: true +showSubscribedDomains: true +preferredLanguages: [] +featuredMagazines: null +showProfileSubscriptions: false +showProfileFollowings: true +markNewComments: false +notifyOnNewEntry: false +notifyOnNewEntryReply: true +notifyOnNewEntryCommentReply: true +notifyOnNewPost: false +notifyOnNewPostReply: true +notifyOnNewPostCommentReply: true +addMentionsEntries: false +addMentionsPosts: true +isBanned: false +isVerified: false +isDeleted: false +isBot: false +spamProtection: true +customCss: null +ignoreMagazinesCustomCss: false +moderatorTokens: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#236 …} +magazineOwnershipRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#232 …} +moderatorRequests: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#221 …} +entries: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#179 …} +entryVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#151 …} +entryComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#124 …} +entryCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#94 …} +posts: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#67 …} +postVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#82 …} +postComments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1372 …} +postCommentVotes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1594 …} +subscriptions: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1873 …} +subscribedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1769 …} +follows: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1809 …} +followers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2390 …} +blocks: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1860 …} +blockers: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1857 …} +blockedMagazines: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1791 …} +blockedDomains: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2401 …} +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2480 …} +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1373 …} +violations: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2413 …} +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1884 …} +awards: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1867 …} +subscribedCategories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1920 …} +categories: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1395 …} -id: 86842 -password: "$2y$13$vJK6FccW0rsstpFJiKChZOdYgv54PwvBjGGijk0sEi7nJxDIuxzAa" -totpSecret: null -totpBackupCodes: [] -oAuth2UserConsents: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1953 …} +apId: "wwwgem@lemmy.ml" +apProfileId: "https://lemmy.ml/u/wwwgem" +apPublicUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/u/wwwgem" +apFollowersUrl: null +apInboxUrl: "https://lemmy.ml/inbox" +apDomain: "lemmy.ml" +apPreferredUsername: "wwwgem" +apDiscoverable: true +apManuallyApprovesFollowers: false +privateKey: null +publicKey: null +apFetchedAt: DateTime @1706680745 {#269 : 2024-01-31 06:59:05.0 +01:00 } +apDeletedAt: null +apTimeoutAt: null +visibility: "visible " +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1706680744 {#268 : 2024-01-31 06:59:04.0 +01:00 } } } |
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| date | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.18 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "date" => DateTimeImmutable @1706680744 {#268 : 2024-01-31 06:59:04.0 +01:00 } ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\DateComponent {#4807 +date: DateTimeImmutable @1706680744 {#268 : 2024-01-31 06:59:04.0 +01:00 } } |
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| related_magazines | App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent | 12.0 MiB | 2.66 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "magazine" => null "tag" => null ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\RelatedMagazinesComponent {#4894 +limit: 4 +tag: null +magazine: null +type: "random" +title: "random_magazines" +refreshedRandom: false -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#2446 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} } |
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| active_users | App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.31 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "magazine" => null ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\ActiveUsersComponent {#4962 +magazine: null -userRepository: App\Repository\UserRepository {#603 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} } |
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| related_categories | App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent | 12.0 MiB | 2.09 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "magazine" => null "tag" => null ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\RelatedCategoriesComponent {#5021 +limit: 4 +tag: null +magazine: null +type: "random" +title: "random_categories" +refreshedRandom: false -repository: App\Repository\CategoryRepository {#5022 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} } |
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| related_posts | App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent | 12.0 MiB | 1.84 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "magazine" => null "tag" => null ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\RelatedPostsComponent {#5092 +limit: 4 +tag: null +magazine: null +type: "random" +post: null +title: "random_posts" +refreshedRandom: false -repository: App\Repository\PostRepository {#5091 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1536 …} } |
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| related_entries | App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent | 12.0 MiB | 1.85 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "magazine" => null "tag" => null ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\RelatedEntriesComponent {#5162 +limit: 4 +tag: null +magazine: null +type: "random" +entry: null +title: "random_entries" +refreshedRandom: false -repository: App\Repository\EntryRepository {#5161 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} -mentionManager: App\Service\MentionManager {#1536 …} } |
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| support_us_block | App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock | 12.0 MiB | 0.30 ms | |
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| Input props | [] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\SupportUsBlock {#5231 +subject: ? App\Entity\Contracts\VotableInterface +url: ? string -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -cache: Symfony\Component\Cache\Adapter\TraceableTagAwareAdapter {#600 …} -requestStack: Symfony\Component\HttpFoundation\RequestStack {#1328 …} -partnerBlockRepository: App\Repository\PartnerBlockRepository {#5232 …} } |
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| featured_magazines | App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent | 12.0 MiB | 0.89 ms | |
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| Input props | [ "magazine" => null ] |
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| Attributes | [] |
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| Component | App\Twig\Components\FeaturedMagazinesComponent {#5324 +magazine: null -twig: Twig\Environment {#1252 …} -repository: App\Repository\MagazineRepository {#2446 …} } |
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