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Response
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IP
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Profiled on
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f4ca04

Security

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Firewall

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Stateless

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
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    Before anything else, I would like to say that I admit `systemd` has brought great change to GNU/Linux. `sysvinit` wasn’t the best, and custom scripts for every distro is a pain I’d rather not have.\n
    \n
    With that said, [Poettering now works for Microsoft](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennart_Poettering), `systemd` has basically taken over all of the common/popular distributions (if this is about the argument of “`systemd` making it easier for developers”, disclaimer: I don’t know. I’m not a developer), and this has led to a rampant monopolisation of the init system.\n
    \n
    Memes aside, this has very real consequences. If you don’t want another CentOS-style “oof, sorry, off to testing” debacle happening with your init system, might want to look at the more “advanced” distributions that let you choose the init system.\n
    \n
    I am well aware that systemd works well for the most part, and that gamers and most other people likely don’t care - which is fine, at least for now. I do expect to see a massive turnover in sentiment if something ever happens to `systemd` (not that I’d like for that to happen, but no trusting RedHat anymore), but I suppose we’ll get to it when we do.\n
    \n
    My sentiments are well enunciated in this recent post on the Devuan forum: [dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5826](https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5826)\n
    \n
    Cheers!
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    With that said, [Poettering now works for Microsoft](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennart_Poettering), `systemd` has basically taken over all of the common/popular distributions (if this is about the argument of “`systemd` making it easier for developers”, disclaimer: I don’t know. I’m not a developer), and this has led to a rampant monopolisation of the init system.\n
    \n
    Memes aside, this has very real consequences. If you don’t want another CentOS-style “oof, sorry, off to testing” debacle happening with your init system, might want to look at the more “advanced” distributions that let you choose the init system.\n
    \n
    I am well aware that systemd works well for the most part, and that gamers and most other people likely don’t care - which is fine, at least for now. I do expect to see a massive turnover in sentiment if something ever happens to `systemd` (not that I’d like for that to happen, but no trusting RedHat anymore), but I suppose we’ll get to it when we do.\n
    \n
    My sentiments are well enunciated in this recent post on the Devuan forum: [dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5826](https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5826)\n
    \n
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      Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
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      With that said, [Poettering now works for Microsoft](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennart_Poettering), `systemd` has basically taken over all of the common/popular distributions (if this is about the argument of “`systemd` making it easier for developers”, disclaimer: I don’t know. I’m not a developer), and this has led to a rampant monopolisation of the init system.\n
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    Good alternatives: Devuan, Slackware, Gentoo.\n
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