GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/m/memes@lemmy.world/t/24755/Biggest-piece-of-shit-in-movie-history

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
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  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
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Listeners

Listener Duration Response
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  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
0.19 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.03 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
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  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
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      \n
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      \n
      2. No politicsThis is non-politics community. For political memes please go to [!politicalmemes@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/politicalmemes)\n
      \n
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      \n
      4. No botsNo bots without the express approval of the mods or the admins\n
      \n
      5. No Spam/AdsNo advertisements or spam. This is an instance rule and the only way to live.\n
      \n
      \n
      \n
      Sister communities\n
      ------------------\n
      \n
      - [!tenforward@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/tenforward) : Star Trek memes, chat and shitposts\n
      - [!lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost) : Lemmy Shitposts, anything and everything goes.\n
      - [!linuxmemes@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes) : Linux themed memes\n
      - [!comicstrips@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/comicstrips) : for those who love comic stories.
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    +privateKey: null
    +publicKey: null
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  +hasEmbed: true
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  +sticky: false
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  +editedAt: null
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    date: 2023-12-25 17:04:39.0 +01:00
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
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      \n
      1. Be civilNo trolling, bigotry or other insulting / annoying behaviour\n
      \n
      2. No politicsThis is non-politics community. For political memes please go to [!politicalmemes@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/politicalmemes)\n
      \n
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      \n
      4. No botsNo bots without the express approval of the mods or the admins\n
      \n
      5. No Spam/AdsNo advertisements or spam. This is an instance rule and the only way to live.\n
      \n
      \n
      \n
      Sister communities\n
      ------------------\n
      \n
      - [!tenforward@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/tenforward) : Star Trek memes, chat and shitposts\n
      - [!lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost) : Lemmy Shitposts, anything and everything goes.\n
      - [!linuxmemes@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes) : Linux themed memes\n
      - [!comicstrips@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/comicstrips) : for those who love comic stories.
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\Entry {#2388
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      ---------------\n
      \n
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      \n
      2. No politicsThis is non-politics community. For political memes please go to [!politicalmemes@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/politicalmemes)\n
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      \n
      4. No botsNo bots without the express approval of the mods or the admins\n
      \n
      5. No Spam/AdsNo advertisements or spam. This is an instance rule and the only way to live.\n
      \n
      \n
      \n
      Sister communities\n
      ------------------\n
      \n
      - [!tenforward@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/tenforward) : Star Trek memes, chat and shitposts\n
      - [!lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyshitpost) : Lemmy Shitposts, anything and everything goes.\n
      - [!linuxmemes@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes) : Linux themed memes\n
      - [!comicstrips@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/c/comicstrips) : for those who love comic stories.
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
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ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate
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      And seriously harmed children by bringing them into a workplace that he knew was not safe.\n
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      Aight, I enjoy the joke too.\n
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      Aight, I enjoy the joke too.\n
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        Aight, I enjoy the joke too.\n
        \n
        However! I encourage people to remember that grandpa joe is not a faker *in the world he’s from*!\n
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        \n
        Grandpa Joe hasn’t been laying there in bed faking it (though, in movie, there’s never anything about the grandparents being unable to move or walk *at all*, they’re just frail and weak).\n
        \n
        He is in his eighties or nineties.\n
        \n
        What gets him up and dancing isn’t that he was faking and forgot to, it’s *joy*.\n
        \n
        GJ is *transformed* by joy, by happiness. His grandson has, through luck or destiny, gotten the golden ticket to a brighter, better life! This doesn’t trick Joe into forgetting his infirmity. It gives him the joy to *overcome* it.\n
        \n
        Joe’s transformation, rejuvenation, is because he is so filled with joy that his grandson will have a new life, that it changes him into the grandfather he wished he could be. Don’t forget that he had sacrificed his one real pleasure to give Charlie a chance at that.\n
        \n
        But, look, I know that the grandpajoehate is ostensibly a meme. It’s a joke poking fun at the very musical rules that allow a bed-bound person to *magically* be cured in the first place. But it never acknowledges the fact that his spontaneous rejuvenation is *magic*, and that the magic is the magic of love.\n
        \n
        In a cynical world, we believe that love is not transformative because the real world grinds us down. But love can be transformative for us too. We just have to be willing to let it work.
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        Aight, I enjoy the joke too.\n
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        He is in his eighties or nineties.\n
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        Aight, I enjoy the joke too.\n
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        However! I encourage people to remember that grandpa joe is not a faker *in the world he’s from*!\n
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        Since the movie is what most peeps remember, and where the memes usually come from, the first thing to remember is that it’s a musical.\n
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        Third, the theme of the movie isn’t actually torturing children. The theme of the movie is the redemptive and uplifting power of dreams. That’s achieved by the journey of Charlie getting his golden ticket *and everything in his life getting better*.\n
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        Grandpa Joe hasn’t been laying there in bed faking it (though, in movie, there’s never anything about the grandparents being unable to move or walk *at all*, they’re just frail and weak).\n
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        He is in his eighties or nineties.\n
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        What gets him up and dancing isn’t that he was faking and forgot to, it’s *joy*.\n
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        GJ is *transformed* by joy, by happiness. His grandson has, through luck or destiny, gotten the golden ticket to a brighter, better life! This doesn’t trick Joe into forgetting his infirmity. It gives him the joy to *overcome* it.\n
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        Joe’s transformation, rejuvenation, is because he is so filled with joy that his grandson will have a new life, that it changes him into the grandfather he wished he could be. Don’t forget that he had sacrificed his one real pleasure to give Charlie a chance at that.\n
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        But, look, I know that the grandpajoehate is ostensibly a meme. It’s a joke poking fun at the very musical rules that allow a bed-bound person to *magically* be cured in the first place. But it never acknowledges the fact that his spontaneous rejuvenation is *magic*, and that the magic is the magic of love.\n
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      Aight, I enjoy the joke too.\n
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      However! I encourage people to remember that grandpa joe is not a faker *in the world he’s from*!\n
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      Grandpa Joe hasn’t been laying there in bed faking it (though, in movie, there’s never anything about the grandparents being unable to move or walk *at all*, they’re just frail and weak).\n
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      He is in his eighties or nineties.\n
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      What gets him up and dancing isn’t that he was faking and forgot to, it’s *joy*.\n
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      GJ is *transformed* by joy, by happiness. His grandson has, through luck or destiny, gotten the golden ticket to a brighter, better life! This doesn’t trick Joe into forgetting his infirmity. It gives him the joy to *overcome* it.\n
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      Joe’s transformation, rejuvenation, is because he is so filled with joy that his grandson will have a new life, that it changes him into the grandfather he wished he could be. Don’t forget that he had sacrificed his one real pleasure to give Charlie a chance at that.\n
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      But, look, I know that the grandpajoehate is ostensibly a meme. It’s a joke poking fun at the very musical rules that allow a bed-bound person to *magically* be cured in the first place. But it never acknowledges the fact that his spontaneous rejuvenation is *magic*, and that the magic is the magic of love.\n
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      In a cynical world, we believe that love is not transformative because the real world grinds us down. But love can be transformative for us too. We just have to be willing to let it work.
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        Aight, I enjoy the joke too.\n
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        He is in his eighties or nineties.\n
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        Aight, I enjoy the joke too.\n
        \n
        However! I encourage people to remember that grandpa joe is not a faker *in the world he’s from*!\n
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        Since the movie is what most peeps remember, and where the memes usually come from, the first thing to remember is that it’s a musical.\n
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        Musicals, by the established rules of the overall genre, do not reflect reality at all times. Even mostly dramatic musicals like Man of LaMancha break some reality in order to function as musicals. Take the scene with the ruffians and “Dulcinea” as an example.\n
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        Third, the theme of the movie isn’t actually torturing children. The theme of the movie is the redemptive and uplifting power of dreams. That’s achieved by the journey of Charlie getting his golden ticket *and everything in his life getting better*.\n
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        Grandpa Joe hasn’t been laying there in bed faking it (though, in movie, there’s never anything about the grandparents being unable to move or walk *at all*, they’re just frail and weak).\n
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        He is in his eighties or nineties.\n
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        What gets him up and dancing isn’t that he was faking and forgot to, it’s *joy*.\n
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        GJ is *transformed* by joy, by happiness. His grandson has, through luck or destiny, gotten the golden ticket to a brighter, better life! This doesn’t trick Joe into forgetting his infirmity. It gives him the joy to *overcome* it.\n
        \n
        Joe’s transformation, rejuvenation, is because he is so filled with joy that his grandson will have a new life, that it changes him into the grandfather he wished he could be. Don’t forget that he had sacrificed his one real pleasure to give Charlie a chance at that.\n
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        But, look, I know that the grandpajoehate is ostensibly a meme. It’s a joke poking fun at the very musical rules that allow a bed-bound person to *magically* be cured in the first place. But it never acknowledges the fact that his spontaneous rejuvenation is *magic*, and that the magic is the magic of love.\n
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        In a cynical world, we believe that love is not transformative because the real world grinds us down. But love can be transformative for us too. We just have to be willing to let it work.
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        Aight, I enjoy the joke too.\n
        \n
        However! I encourage people to remember that grandpa joe is not a faker *in the world he’s from*!\n
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        Since the movie is what most peeps remember, and where the memes usually come from, the first thing to remember is that it’s a musical.\n
        \n
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        \n
        Third, the theme of the movie isn’t actually torturing children. The theme of the movie is the redemptive and uplifting power of dreams. That’s achieved by the journey of Charlie getting his golden ticket *and everything in his life getting better*.\n
        \n
        Grandpa Joe hasn’t been laying there in bed faking it (though, in movie, there’s never anything about the grandparents being unable to move or walk *at all*, they’re just frail and weak).\n
        \n
        He is in his eighties or nineties.\n
        \n
        What gets him up and dancing isn’t that he was faking and forgot to, it’s *joy*.\n
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        GJ is *transformed* by joy, by happiness. His grandson has, through luck or destiny, gotten the golden ticket to a brighter, better life! This doesn’t trick Joe into forgetting his infirmity. It gives him the joy to *overcome* it.\n
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        Joe’s transformation, rejuvenation, is because he is so filled with joy that his grandson will have a new life, that it changes him into the grandfather he wished he could be. Don’t forget that he had sacrificed his one real pleasure to give Charlie a chance at that.\n
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        But, look, I know that the grandpajoehate is ostensibly a meme. It’s a joke poking fun at the very musical rules that allow a bed-bound person to *magically* be cured in the first place. But it never acknowledges the fact that his spontaneous rejuvenation is *magic*, and that the magic is the magic of love.\n
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        In a cynical world, we believe that love is not transformative because the real world grinds us down. But love can be transformative for us too. We just have to be willing to let it work.
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          Aight, I enjoy the joke too.\n
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          Second, the movie. Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory is essentially a fantasy piece. You’ve got the Oompa Loompas as prime evidence of that. Orange skinned humanoids that do not exist in the real world (jokes aside). Many things in the chocolate factory break the laws of physics or otherwise bend reality. There’s geese laying golden eggs, ffs.\n
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          Grandpa Joe hasn’t been laying there in bed faking it (though, in movie, there’s never anything about the grandparents being unable to move or walk *at all*, they’re just frail and weak).\n
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          He is in his eighties or nineties.\n
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          What gets him up and dancing isn’t that he was faking and forgot to, it’s *joy*.\n
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          Aight, I enjoy the joke too.\n
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          However! I encourage people to remember that grandpa joe is not a faker *in the world he’s from*!\n
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          Since the movie is what most peeps remember, and where the memes usually come from, the first thing to remember is that it’s a musical.\n
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          Musicals, by the established rules of the overall genre, do not reflect reality at all times. Even mostly dramatic musicals like Man of LaMancha break some reality in order to function as musicals. Take the scene with the ruffians and “Dulcinea” as an example.\n
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          Third, the theme of the movie isn’t actually torturing children. The theme of the movie is the redemptive and uplifting power of dreams. That’s achieved by the journey of Charlie getting his golden ticket *and everything in his life getting better*.\n
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          Grandpa Joe hasn’t been laying there in bed faking it (though, in movie, there’s never anything about the grandparents being unable to move or walk *at all*, they’re just frail and weak).\n
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          He is in his eighties or nineties.\n
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          What gets him up and dancing isn’t that he was faking and forgot to, it’s *joy*.\n
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          GJ is *transformed* by joy, by happiness. His grandson has, through luck or destiny, gotten the golden ticket to a brighter, better life! This doesn’t trick Joe into forgetting his infirmity. It gives him the joy to *overcome* it.\n
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          Joe’s transformation, rejuvenation, is because he is so filled with joy that his grandson will have a new life, that it changes him into the grandfather he wished he could be. Don’t forget that he had sacrificed his one real pleasure to give Charlie a chance at that.\n
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          But, look, I know that the grandpajoehate is ostensibly a meme. It’s a joke poking fun at the very musical rules that allow a bed-bound person to *magically* be cured in the first place. But it never acknowledges the fact that his spontaneous rejuvenation is *magic*, and that the magic is the magic of love.\n
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          In a cynical world, we believe that love is not transformative because the real world grinds us down. But love can be transformative for us too. We just have to be willing to let it work.
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          Aight, I enjoy the joke too.\n
          \n
          However! I encourage people to remember that grandpa joe is not a faker *in the world he’s from*!\n
          \n
          Since the movie is what most peeps remember, and where the memes usually come from, the first thing to remember is that it’s a musical.\n
          \n
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          \n
          Third, the theme of the movie isn’t actually torturing children. The theme of the movie is the redemptive and uplifting power of dreams. That’s achieved by the journey of Charlie getting his golden ticket *and everything in his life getting better*.\n
          \n
          Grandpa Joe hasn’t been laying there in bed faking it (though, in movie, there’s never anything about the grandparents being unable to move or walk *at all*, they’re just frail and weak).\n
          \n
          He is in his eighties or nineties.\n
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          What gets him up and dancing isn’t that he was faking and forgot to, it’s *joy*.\n
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          GJ is *transformed* by joy, by happiness. His grandson has, through luck or destiny, gotten the golden ticket to a brighter, better life! This doesn’t trick Joe into forgetting his infirmity. It gives him the joy to *overcome* it.\n
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          Joe’s transformation, rejuvenation, is because he is so filled with joy that his grandson will have a new life, that it changes him into the grandfather he wished he could be. Don’t forget that he had sacrificed his one real pleasure to give Charlie a chance at that.\n
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          But, look, I know that the grandpajoehate is ostensibly a meme. It’s a joke poking fun at the very musical rules that allow a bed-bound person to *magically* be cured in the first place. But it never acknowledges the fact that his spontaneous rejuvenation is *magic*, and that the magic is the magic of love.\n
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          In a cynical world, we believe that love is not transformative because the real world grinds us down. But love can be transformative for us too. We just have to be willing to let it work.
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        Aight, I enjoy the joke too.\n
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        However! I encourage people to remember that grandpa joe is not a faker *in the world he’s from*!\n
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        Second, the movie. Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory is essentially a fantasy piece. You’ve got the Oompa Loompas as prime evidence of that. Orange skinned humanoids that do not exist in the real world (jokes aside). Many things in the chocolate factory break the laws of physics or otherwise bend reality. There’s geese laying golden eggs, ffs.\n
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        Grandpa Joe hasn’t been laying there in bed faking it (though, in movie, there’s never anything about the grandparents being unable to move or walk *at all*, they’re just frail and weak).\n
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        He is in his eighties or nineties.\n
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        What gets him up and dancing isn’t that he was faking and forgot to, it’s *joy*.\n
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        GJ is *transformed* by joy, by happiness. His grandson has, through luck or destiny, gotten the golden ticket to a brighter, better life! This doesn’t trick Joe into forgetting his infirmity. It gives him the joy to *overcome* it.\n
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        Aight, I enjoy the joke too.\n
        \n
        However! I encourage people to remember that grandpa joe is not a faker *in the world he’s from*!\n
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        Since the movie is what most peeps remember, and where the memes usually come from, the first thing to remember is that it’s a musical.\n
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        Musicals, by the established rules of the overall genre, do not reflect reality at all times. Even mostly dramatic musicals like Man of LaMancha break some reality in order to function as musicals. Take the scene with the ruffians and “Dulcinea” as an example.\n
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        Second, the movie. Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory is essentially a fantasy piece. You’ve got the Oompa Loompas as prime evidence of that. Orange skinned humanoids that do not exist in the real world (jokes aside). Many things in the chocolate factory break the laws of physics or otherwise bend reality. There’s geese laying golden eggs, ffs.\n
        \n
        Third, the theme of the movie isn’t actually torturing children. The theme of the movie is the redemptive and uplifting power of dreams. That’s achieved by the journey of Charlie getting his golden ticket *and everything in his life getting better*.\n
        \n
        Grandpa Joe hasn’t been laying there in bed faking it (though, in movie, there’s never anything about the grandparents being unable to move or walk *at all*, they’re just frail and weak).\n
        \n
        He is in his eighties or nineties.\n
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        What gets him up and dancing isn’t that he was faking and forgot to, it’s *joy*.\n
        \n
        GJ is *transformed* by joy, by happiness. His grandson has, through luck or destiny, gotten the golden ticket to a brighter, better life! This doesn’t trick Joe into forgetting his infirmity. It gives him the joy to *overcome* it.\n
        \n
        Joe’s transformation, rejuvenation, is because he is so filled with joy that his grandson will have a new life, that it changes him into the grandfather he wished he could be. Don’t forget that he had sacrificed his one real pleasure to give Charlie a chance at that.\n
        \n
        But, look, I know that the grandpajoehate is ostensibly a meme. It’s a joke poking fun at the very musical rules that allow a bed-bound person to *magically* be cured in the first place. But it never acknowledges the fact that his spontaneous rejuvenation is *magic*, and that the magic is the magic of love.\n
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        In a cynical world, we believe that love is not transformative because the real world grinds us down. But love can be transformative for us too. We just have to be willing to let it work.
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        Aight, I enjoy the joke too.\n
        \n
        However! I encourage people to remember that grandpa joe is not a faker *in the world he’s from*!\n
        \n
        Since the movie is what most peeps remember, and where the memes usually come from, the first thing to remember is that it’s a musical.\n
        \n
        Musicals, by the established rules of the overall genre, do not reflect reality at all times. Even mostly dramatic musicals like Man of LaMancha break some reality in order to function as musicals. Take the scene with the ruffians and “Dulcinea” as an example.\n
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        Second, the movie. Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory is essentially a fantasy piece. You’ve got the Oompa Loompas as prime evidence of that. Orange skinned humanoids that do not exist in the real world (jokes aside). Many things in the chocolate factory break the laws of physics or otherwise bend reality. There’s geese laying golden eggs, ffs.\n
        \n
        Third, the theme of the movie isn’t actually torturing children. The theme of the movie is the redemptive and uplifting power of dreams. That’s achieved by the journey of Charlie getting his golden ticket *and everything in his life getting better*.\n
        \n
        Grandpa Joe hasn’t been laying there in bed faking it (though, in movie, there’s never anything about the grandparents being unable to move or walk *at all*, they’re just frail and weak).\n
        \n
        He is in his eighties or nineties.\n
        \n
        What gets him up and dancing isn’t that he was faking and forgot to, it’s *joy*.\n
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        GJ is *transformed* by joy, by happiness. His grandson has, through luck or destiny, gotten the golden ticket to a brighter, better life! This doesn’t trick Joe into forgetting his infirmity. It gives him the joy to *overcome* it.\n
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        Joe’s transformation, rejuvenation, is because he is so filled with joy that his grandson will have a new life, that it changes him into the grandfather he wished he could be. Don’t forget that he had sacrificed his one real pleasure to give Charlie a chance at that.\n
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        But, look, I know that the grandpajoehate is ostensibly a meme. It’s a joke poking fun at the very musical rules that allow a bed-bound person to *magically* be cured in the first place. But it never acknowledges the fact that his spontaneous rejuvenation is *magic*, and that the magic is the magic of love.\n
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        In a cynical world, we believe that love is not transformative because the real world grinds us down. But love can be transformative for us too. We just have to be willing to let it work.
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      Aight, I enjoy the joke too.\n
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          This sounds like a moral position until actually having one’s life threatened. There’s no reason to give bravery credit to a statement. That scene showed the paralysis effect of our brain, the ENTIRE POINT is that he was unable to save his friend. Same point is referenced multiple times in the book, and once more(without nominal reference) in the series. Spielberg and Hanks saved their audience of most of the visible anguish and tears in the interwoven interviews. Honestly, the author of the book saves the audience from details, too. It was all THAT BAD.  \n
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    You do understand that the film isn’t a documentary? It’s a family film. You’d be the guy complaining that in episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy’s skeleton as a xylophone, he strikes the same rib in succession yet produces two clearly different notes.\n
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        Yeah, I have - and the ones that could walk were constantly having to sit down, not doing bloody jigs like Joe did upon learning about the Golden Ticket.\n
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      You do understand that the film isn’t a documentary? It’s a family film. You’d be the guy complaining that in episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy’s skeleton as a xylophone, he strikes the same rib in succession yet produces two clearly different notes.\n
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      You really need to get some perspective on how the world works, and maybe a hobby that isn’t making ill-informed ultra-literalised criticisms of family films. Next you’ll be saying that Grandpa Joe should learn to code so he can remote hustle from his bed.
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    Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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    But if you're going to be a pain in the arse about it...\n
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    > Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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    Yeah, but we know Grandpa Joe has supppsedly been bed-bound like the other elders for years. He may have once lived an active lifestyle, but he ain't active now, and (especially when you're older) muscle you don't use disappears fast.\n
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    > Secondly, if you earnestly believe that a 90 year old, over 20 years into retirement, needs to polish their work boots, get on their bike, and find work to support their family, then you’re either mentally deficient, a child with zero experience of the job market, or a tory. Either way, you’re detached from reality.\n
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    Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.\n
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    It absolutely is cruel to suggest that someone retired should have to pick up their cap, but life can be cruel like that, and I think you're detatched from reality acting like that sort of thing never happens - like nobody ever needs to come out of retirement for any reason ever.\n
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    > Forgetting the fact that a retiree has earned their retirement, a company is simply less likely to take on an over 65, either through some judgment of their ability or out of fear that a common workplace slip can turn into a death.\n
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    True, but that doesn't stop Grandpa Joe from trying - sure beats watching your family living destitute while you live bed-bound for years full well knowing you don't need to be\n
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        Yeah, I have - and the ones that could walk were constantly having to sit down, not doing bloody jigs like Joe did upon learning about the Golden Ticket.\n
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      You do understand that the film isn’t a documentary? It’s a family film. You’d be the guy complaining that in episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy’s skeleton as a xylophone, he strikes the same rib in succession yet produces two clearly different notes.\n
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      You really need to get some perspective on how the world works, and maybe a hobby that isn’t making ill-informed ultra-literalised criticisms of family films. Next you’ll be saying that Grandpa Joe should learn to code so he can remote hustle from his bed.
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    Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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    But if you're going to be a pain in the arse about it...\n
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    > Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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    Yeah, but we know Grandpa Joe has supppsedly been bed-bound like the other elders for years. He may have once lived an active lifestyle, but he ain't active now, and (especially when you're older) muscle you don't use disappears fast.\n
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    > Secondly, if you earnestly believe that a 90 year old, over 20 years into retirement, needs to polish their work boots, get on their bike, and find work to support their family, then you’re either mentally deficient, a child with zero experience of the job market, or a tory. Either way, you’re detached from reality.\n
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    Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.\n
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    It absolutely is cruel to suggest that someone retired should have to pick up their cap, but life can be cruel like that, and I think you're detatched from reality acting like that sort of thing never happens - like nobody ever needs to come out of retirement for any reason ever.\n
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    > Forgetting the fact that a retiree has earned their retirement, a company is simply less likely to take on an over 65, either through some judgment of their ability or out of fear that a common workplace slip can turn into a death.\n
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    True, but that doesn't stop Grandpa Joe from trying - sure beats watching your family living destitute while you live bed-bound for years full well knowing you don't need to be\n
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    > You really need to get some perspective on how the world works, and maybe a hobby that isn’t making ill-informed ultra-literalised criticisms of family films. Next you’ll be saying that Grandpa Joe should learn to code so he can remote hustle from his bed.\n
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    Again, chill the fuck out mate, it's way more light-hearted than you're being. Everyone's aware it's a family film.\n
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    Having said that, my perspective is that the world can be cruel at times, and that Grandpa Joe should be doing his part to help his destitute family rather than lying in bed if he's got enough energy to start dancing and singing, and fucking around with his Grandson in a chocolate factory - I think you're out of touch if you think everybody hits 65 and suddenly s financially set for the rest of their lives.\n
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      You do understand that the film isn’t a documentary? It’s a family film. You’d be the guy complaining that in episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy’s skeleton as a xylophone, he strikes the same rib in succession yet produces two clearly different notes.\n
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      Edit: Actually, there’s a lot more to say. Your comment is simply wrong on every point it makes.\n
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      Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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      Secondly, if you earnestly believe that a 90 year old, over 20 years into retirement, needs to polish their work boots, get on their bike, and find work to support their family, then you’re either mentally deficient, a child with zero experience of the job market, or a tory. Either way, you’re detached from reality. Forgetting the fact that a retiree has *earned* their retirement, a company is simply less likely to take on an over 65, either through some judgment of their ability or out of fear that a common workplace slip can turn into a death.\n
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      You really need to get some perspective on how the world works, and maybe a hobby that isn’t making ill-informed ultra-literalised criticisms of family films. Next you’ll be saying that Grandpa Joe should learn to code so he can remote hustle from his bed.
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    Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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    But if you're going to be a pain in the arse about it...\n
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    > Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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    Yeah, but we know Grandpa Joe has supppsedly been bed-bound like the other elders for years. He may have once lived an active lifestyle, but he ain't active now, and (especially when you're older) muscle you don't use disappears fast.\n
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    > Secondly, if you earnestly believe that a 90 year old, over 20 years into retirement, needs to polish their work boots, get on their bike, and find work to support their family, then you’re either mentally deficient, a child with zero experience of the job market, or a tory. Either way, you’re detached from reality.\n
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    Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.\n
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    It absolutely is cruel to suggest that someone retired should have to pick up their cap, but life can be cruel like that, and I think you're detatched from reality acting like that sort of thing never happens - like nobody ever needs to come out of retirement for any reason ever.\n
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    > Forgetting the fact that a retiree has earned their retirement, a company is simply less likely to take on an over 65, either through some judgment of their ability or out of fear that a common workplace slip can turn into a death.\n
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    True, but that doesn't stop Grandpa Joe from trying - sure beats watching your family living destitute while you live bed-bound for years full well knowing you don't need to be\n
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    > You really need to get some perspective on how the world works, and maybe a hobby that isn’t making ill-informed ultra-literalised criticisms of family films. Next you’ll be saying that Grandpa Joe should learn to code so he can remote hustle from his bed.\n
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    Again, chill the fuck out mate, it's way more light-hearted than you're being. Everyone's aware it's a family film.\n
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    Having said that, my perspective is that the world can be cruel at times, and that Grandpa Joe should be doing his part to help his destitute family rather than lying in bed if he's got enough energy to start dancing and singing, and fucking around with his Grandson in a chocolate factory - I think you're out of touch if you think everybody hits 65 and suddenly s financially set for the rest of their lives.\n
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    Also, certainly given the original film's setting, I suspect that neither of those would've been a thing yet.
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          Yeah, I have - and the ones that could walk were constantly having to sit down, not doing bloody jigs like Joe did upon learning about the Golden Ticket.\n
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        You do understand that the film isn’t a documentary? It’s a family film. You’d be the guy complaining that in episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy’s skeleton as a xylophone, he strikes the same rib in succession yet produces two clearly different notes.\n
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        Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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        You really need to get some perspective on how the world works, and maybe a hobby that isn’t making ill-informed ultra-literalised criticisms of family films. Next you’ll be saying that Grandpa Joe should learn to code so he can remote hustle from his bed.
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      Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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      But if you're going to be a pain in the arse about it...\n
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      > Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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      Yeah, but we know Grandpa Joe has supppsedly been bed-bound like the other elders for years. He may have once lived an active lifestyle, but he ain't active now, and (especially when you're older) muscle you don't use disappears fast.\n
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      > Secondly, if you earnestly believe that a 90 year old, over 20 years into retirement, needs to polish their work boots, get on their bike, and find work to support their family, then you’re either mentally deficient, a child with zero experience of the job market, or a tory. Either way, you’re detached from reality.\n
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      Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.\n
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      It absolutely is cruel to suggest that someone retired should have to pick up their cap, but life can be cruel like that, and I think you're detatched from reality acting like that sort of thing never happens - like nobody ever needs to come out of retirement for any reason ever.\n
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      > Forgetting the fact that a retiree has earned their retirement, a company is simply less likely to take on an over 65, either through some judgment of their ability or out of fear that a common workplace slip can turn into a death.\n
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      True, but that doesn't stop Grandpa Joe from trying - sure beats watching your family living destitute while you live bed-bound for years full well knowing you don't need to be\n
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      > You really need to get some perspective on how the world works, and maybe a hobby that isn’t making ill-informed ultra-literalised criticisms of family films. Next you’ll be saying that Grandpa Joe should learn to code so he can remote hustle from his bed.\n
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      Again, chill the fuck out mate, it's way more light-hearted than you're being. Everyone's aware it's a family film.\n
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      Having said that, my perspective is that the world can be cruel at times, and that Grandpa Joe should be doing his part to help his destitute family rather than lying in bed if he's got enough energy to start dancing and singing, and fucking around with his Grandson in a chocolate factory - I think you're out of touch if you think everybody hits 65 and suddenly s financially set for the rest of their lives.\n
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      Also, certainly given the original film's setting, I suspect that neither of those would've been a thing yet.
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    > Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that\n
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          Yeah, I have - and the ones that could walk were constantly having to sit down, not doing bloody jigs like Joe did upon learning about the Golden Ticket.\n
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          Grandpa Joe has significantly more energy than his peers, that much I can tell - and the fact he let his poor family suffer rather than put that energy to use working even just a day a week is part of why I hate Grandpa Joe
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        You do understand that the film isn’t a documentary? It’s a family film. You’d be the guy complaining that in episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy’s skeleton as a xylophone, he strikes the same rib in succession yet produces two clearly different notes.\n
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        Edit: Actually, there’s a lot more to say. Your comment is simply wrong on every point it makes.\n
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        Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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        You really need to get some perspective on how the world works, and maybe a hobby that isn’t making ill-informed ultra-literalised criticisms of family films. Next you’ll be saying that Grandpa Joe should learn to code so he can remote hustle from his bed.
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      Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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      But if you're going to be a pain in the arse about it...\n
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      > Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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      Yeah, but we know Grandpa Joe has supppsedly been bed-bound like the other elders for years. He may have once lived an active lifestyle, but he ain't active now, and (especially when you're older) muscle you don't use disappears fast.\n
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      > Secondly, if you earnestly believe that a 90 year old, over 20 years into retirement, needs to polish their work boots, get on their bike, and find work to support their family, then you’re either mentally deficient, a child with zero experience of the job market, or a tory. Either way, you’re detached from reality.\n
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      Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.\n
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      It absolutely is cruel to suggest that someone retired should have to pick up their cap, but life can be cruel like that, and I think you're detatched from reality acting like that sort of thing never happens - like nobody ever needs to come out of retirement for any reason ever.\n
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      > Forgetting the fact that a retiree has earned their retirement, a company is simply less likely to take on an over 65, either through some judgment of their ability or out of fear that a common workplace slip can turn into a death.\n
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      True, but that doesn't stop Grandpa Joe from trying - sure beats watching your family living destitute while you live bed-bound for years full well knowing you don't need to be\n
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      > You really need to get some perspective on how the world works, and maybe a hobby that isn’t making ill-informed ultra-literalised criticisms of family films. Next you’ll be saying that Grandpa Joe should learn to code so he can remote hustle from his bed.\n
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      Again, chill the fuck out mate, it's way more light-hearted than you're being. Everyone's aware it's a family film.\n
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      Having said that, my perspective is that the world can be cruel at times, and that Grandpa Joe should be doing his part to help his destitute family rather than lying in bed if he's got enough energy to start dancing and singing, and fucking around with his Grandson in a chocolate factory - I think you're out of touch if you think everybody hits 65 and suddenly s financially set for the rest of their lives.\n
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      Also, certainly given the original film's setting, I suspect that neither of those would've been a thing yet.
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    > Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that\n
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    Everyone from a poor or working class family understands that poverty isn’t something you can graft your way out of. Also, a man described as “96 and a half” and the most fragile among Charlie’s grandparents, managed to muster the energy to celebrate his grandson winning a prize and then accompanied him on a half day tour round a local factory. If you think that’s sufficient to classify him as work capable, then you’ve got a bright future conducting disability assessments for the DWP.
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          Yeah, I have - and the ones that could walk were constantly having to sit down, not doing bloody jigs like Joe did upon learning about the Golden Ticket.\n
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        You do understand that the film isn’t a documentary? It’s a family film. You’d be the guy complaining that in episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy’s skeleton as a xylophone, he strikes the same rib in succession yet produces two clearly different notes.\n
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        You really need to get some perspective on how the world works, and maybe a hobby that isn’t making ill-informed ultra-literalised criticisms of family films. Next you’ll be saying that Grandpa Joe should learn to code so he can remote hustle from his bed.
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      Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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      But if you're going to be a pain in the arse about it...\n
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      > Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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      Yeah, but we know Grandpa Joe has supppsedly been bed-bound like the other elders for years. He may have once lived an active lifestyle, but he ain't active now, and (especially when you're older) muscle you don't use disappears fast.\n
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      > Secondly, if you earnestly believe that a 90 year old, over 20 years into retirement, needs to polish their work boots, get on their bike, and find work to support their family, then you’re either mentally deficient, a child with zero experience of the job market, or a tory. Either way, you’re detached from reality.\n
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      Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.\n
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      It absolutely is cruel to suggest that someone retired should have to pick up their cap, but life can be cruel like that, and I think you're detatched from reality acting like that sort of thing never happens - like nobody ever needs to come out of retirement for any reason ever.\n
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      > Forgetting the fact that a retiree has earned their retirement, a company is simply less likely to take on an over 65, either through some judgment of their ability or out of fear that a common workplace slip can turn into a death.\n
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      True, but that doesn't stop Grandpa Joe from trying - sure beats watching your family living destitute while you live bed-bound for years full well knowing you don't need to be\n
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      Again, chill the fuck out mate, it's way more light-hearted than you're being. Everyone's aware it's a family film.\n
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      Having said that, my perspective is that the world can be cruel at times, and that Grandpa Joe should be doing his part to help his destitute family rather than lying in bed if he's got enough energy to start dancing and singing, and fucking around with his Grandson in a chocolate factory - I think you're out of touch if you think everybody hits 65 and suddenly s financially set for the rest of their lives.\n
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    > Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that\n
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