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Simplifiedprivacy dot com needs to be blacklisted from Lemmy communities, it’s a blog trying to sell some really silly services.\n
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As for Session, they’ve never made an original product that I’ve ever seen - they took Signal and Monero, peeled off the labels, and made them (especially Signal, IMO) worse in both aesthetics and privacy protection.\n
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As most people here might know, Session utilises a TOR-like onion routing system with some changes to route traffic. The username is the public key whilst the password is the private key.\n
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Recently, a new project built on top of this seems to be in the works: [simplifiedprivacy.com/freespeech/](https://simplifiedprivacy.com/freespeech/)\n
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Simplifiedprivacy dot com needs to be blacklisted from Lemmy communities, it’s a blog trying to sell some really silly services.\n
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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> Also, the fact that the use of browser engines other than WebKit is limited to iOS means that the use of WebKit is still forced on iPadOS, which also increases the effort for Mozilla.\n
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Source: [iphonewired.com/news/746093/](https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/)
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Mozilla: *creates new product nobody asked for*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
\n
Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
\n
The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
\n
[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
\n
[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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> For an independent browser like Firefox, managing two browsers is not easy, so it can be forgiven that this could be seen as almost harassment.\n
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> Also, the fact that the use of browser engines other than WebKit is limited to iOS means that the use of WebKit is still forced on iPadOS, which also increases the effort for Mozilla.\n
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Source: [iphonewired.com/news/746093/](https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/)
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Mozilla: *creates new product nobody asked for*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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+body: "Okay, so you would advise someone who bought, say, Photoshop on a Mac OS to consider that cost sunk, and then to purchase what on Linux?"
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
\n
[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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> Also, the fact that the use of browser engines other than WebKit is limited to iOS means that the use of WebKit is still forced on iPadOS, which also increases the effort for Mozilla.\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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+body: "Okay, so you would advise someone who bought, say, Photoshop on a Mac OS to consider that cost sunk, and then to purchase what on Linux?"
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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+body: "Okay, so you would advise someone who bought, say, Photoshop on a Mac OS to consider that cost sunk, and then to purchase what on Linux?"
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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> For an independent browser like Firefox, managing two browsers is not easy, so it can be forgiven that this could be seen as almost harassment.\n
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> Also, the fact that the use of browser engines other than WebKit is limited to iOS means that the use of WebKit is still forced on iPadOS, which also increases the effort for Mozilla.\n
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Source: [iphonewired.com/news/746093/](https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/)
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Mozilla: *creates new product nobody asked for*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
\n
The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
\n
So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Mozilla: *creates new product nobody asked for*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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> For an independent browser like Firefox, managing two browsers is not easy, so it can be forgiven that this could be seen as almost harassment.\n
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> Also, the fact that the use of browser engines other than WebKit is limited to iOS means that the use of WebKit is still forced on iPadOS, which also increases the effort for Mozilla.\n
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Source: [iphonewired.com/news/746093/](https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/)
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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*sigh*\n
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Mozilla: *creates new product nobody asked for*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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+body: "You asked what parts aren’t compatible, and one answer is everything bought for Apple computers, iPhones, iPads, etc. Apps, media, anything that isn’t subscription based."
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
\n
I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
\n
Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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+body: "Okay, so you would advise someone who bought, say, Photoshop on a Mac OS to consider that cost sunk, and then to purchase what on Linux?"
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
\n
[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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*sigh*\n
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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+body: "Okay, so you would advise someone who bought, say, Photoshop on a Mac OS to consider that cost sunk, and then to purchase what on Linux?"
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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*sigh*\n
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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Source: [iphonewired.com/news/746093/](https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/)
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
\n
So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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Source: [iphonewired.com/news/746093/](https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/)
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
\n
Mozilla: *creates new product nobody asked for*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
\n
The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
\n
So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
\n
This\n
\n
[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
\n
This\n
\n
[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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> For an independent browser like Firefox, managing two browsers is not easy, so it can be forgiven that this could be seen as almost harassment.\n
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> Also, the fact that the use of browser engines other than WebKit is limited to iOS means that the use of WebKit is still forced on iPadOS, which also increases the effort for Mozilla.\n
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Source: [iphonewired.com/news/746093/](https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/)
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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*sigh*\n
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Mozilla: *creates new product nobody asked for*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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+body: "Okay, so you would advise someone who bought, say, Photoshop on a Mac OS to consider that cost sunk, and then to purchase what on Linux?"
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
\n
[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
\n
This\n
\n
[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
\n
[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
\n
[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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> Also, the fact that the use of browser engines other than WebKit is limited to iOS means that the use of WebKit is still forced on iPadOS, which also increases the effort for Mozilla.\n
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Source: [iphonewired.com/news/746093/](https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/)
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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Source: [iphonewired.com/news/746093/](https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/)
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+body: "Okay, so you would advise someone who bought, say, Photoshop on a Mac OS to consider that cost sunk, and then to purchase what on Linux?"
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Mozilla: *creates new product nobody asked for*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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+body: "You asked what parts aren’t compatible, and one answer is everything bought for Apple computers, iPhones, iPads, etc. Apps, media, anything that isn’t subscription based."
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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> For an independent browser like Firefox, managing two browsers is not easy, so it can be forgiven that this could be seen as almost harassment.\n
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> Also, the fact that the use of browser engines other than WebKit is limited to iOS means that the use of WebKit is still forced on iPadOS, which also increases the effort for Mozilla.\n
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Source: [iphonewired.com/news/746093/](https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/)
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Mozilla: *creates new product nobody asked for*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
\n
[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
\n
Mozilla: *creates new product nobody asked for*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
\n
Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
\n
Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
\n
So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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> For an independent browser like Firefox, managing two browsers is not easy, so it can be forgiven that this could be seen as almost harassment.\n
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> Also, the fact that the use of browser engines other than WebKit is limited to iOS means that the use of WebKit is still forced on iPadOS, which also increases the effort for Mozilla.\n
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Source: [iphonewired.com/news/746093/](https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/)
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Mozilla: *creates new product nobody asked for*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
\n
So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
\n
[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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+body: "Okay, so you would advise someone who bought, say, Photoshop on a Mac OS to consider that cost sunk, and then to purchase what on Linux?"
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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> For an independent browser like Firefox, managing two browsers is not easy, so it can be forgiven that this could be seen as almost harassment.\n
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> Also, the fact that the use of browser engines other than WebKit is limited to iOS means that the use of WebKit is still forced on iPadOS, which also increases the effort for Mozilla.\n
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Source: [iphonewired.com/news/746093/](https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/)
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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> For an independent browser like Firefox, managing two browsers is not easy, so it can be forgiven that this could be seen as almost harassment.\n
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> Also, the fact that the use of browser engines other than WebKit is limited to iOS means that the use of WebKit is still forced on iPadOS, which also increases the effort for Mozilla.\n
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Source: [iphonewired.com/news/746093/](https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/)
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Mozilla: *creates new product nobody asked for*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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*sigh*\n
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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+body: "Okay, so you would advise someone who bought, say, Photoshop on a Mac OS to consider that cost sunk, and then to purchase what on Linux?"
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
\n

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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
\n
Mozilla: *creates new product nobody asked for*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
\n
I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
\n
Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
\n
Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
\n
The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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This\n
\n
[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
\n
This\n
\n
[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
\n
This\n
\n
[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
\n
[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Mozilla: *creates new product nobody asked for*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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*sigh*\n
\n
[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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+body: "Okay, so you would advise someone who bought, say, Photoshop on a Mac OS to consider that cost sunk, and then to purchase what on Linux?"
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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*sigh*\n
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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+body: "You asked what parts aren’t compatible, and one answer is everything bought for Apple computers, iPhones, iPads, etc. Apps, media, anything that isn’t subscription based."
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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+body: "Okay, so you would advise someone who bought, say, Photoshop on a Mac OS to consider that cost sunk, and then to purchase what on Linux?"
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
\n
This\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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This\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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> For an independent browser like Firefox, managing two browsers is not easy, so it can be forgiven that this could be seen as almost harassment.\n
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> Also, the fact that the use of browser engines other than WebKit is limited to iOS means that the use of WebKit is still forced on iPadOS, which also increases the effort for Mozilla.\n
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Source: [iphonewired.com/news/746093/](https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/)
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Mozilla: *creates new product nobody asked for*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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[www.apple.com/apple-books/](https://www.apple.com/apple-books/)\n
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[www.apple.com/itunes/](https://www.apple.com/itunes/)
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*sigh*\n
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[www.apple.com/app-store/](https://www.apple.com/app-store/)
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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Source: [iphonewired.com/news/746093/](https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/)
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Mozilla: *ignores years of customer complaints and requests*\n
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Mozilla: *creates new product nobody asked for*\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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I’m confused what you’re trying to say here.\n
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Are you saying that Google has more of a right to dictate what Mozilla does because Google gives Mozilla the most money?\n
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Are you saying Google told Mozilla to work on things other than Firefox with the money they were given?\n
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Why bring up Google at all?
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I know that, but why did you bring it up in order to contrast it with Mozilla’s consumer base? Do you mean to say that Google is the actual paying customer?\n
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It seems like such a bizarre thing to bring up at all.
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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The point of this thought experiment is to understand that [sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost).
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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So I don’t know what all the cool killer Mac apps. Replace Photoshop with the name of a bunch of cool killer Mac apps, and repeat the question.
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This\n
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[support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375)\n
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I (and other people) have already said that re-buying the same products and learning alternative ones is expensive in both time and money. That’s the point.\n
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And I don’t know a ton of iOS killer apps but you would probably have to convince people with a ton of effort that Procreate is replaced by something on Android, let alone any other app I don’t know about
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> Mozilla is unhappy because the use of browser engines other than WebKit will be restricted to the EU, forcing them to develop two different apps.\n
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> For an independent browser like Firefox, managing two browsers is not easy, so it can be forgiven that this could be seen as almost harassment.\n
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Source: [iphonewired.com/news/746093/](https://iphonewired.com/news/746093/)
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Yes, but also require Apple to expand its EU software to people not in the EU\n
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Fans: “What’s wrong with Product?”
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> Are these customers donating, or purchasing mozilla products or services so that mozilla doesn’t have to rely on google’s donations?\n
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What’s the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?\n
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I… Don’t like Apple at all. I’m engaging in a thing called a thought experiment, which is required to rationally assess why somebody might not want to throw away things they have purchased and devote both more time and more money to something that doesn’t work as well as it.\n
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