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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
0.23 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.06 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1592
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3315 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1579 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3179 …}
  +slug: "Feeling-like-Privacy-is-a-lost-war"
  +title: "Feeling like Privacy is a lost war."
  +url: null
  +body: """
    So, I recently moved about 6 months ago. Have only given my real address and name to the DMV, Phone Company, Internet, and rental property(obviously knows my real address)\n
    \n
    Ran Optery and found out that over 80 data brokers have my legit new address already.\n
    \n
    Feeling like privacy is just some kind of wet dream at the moment. I do everything right, I think but no matter what the 4 companies I have given my information too will constantly sell my personal data no matter what.\n
    \n
    It’s truly sad the direction America is going towards, all for some more money.
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 50
  +favouriteCount: 246
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1709334867 {#3347
    date: 2024-03-02 00:14:27.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3352 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3355 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3357 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3359 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3361 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3363 …}
  +children: [
    1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1697
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1592 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1579 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1667 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1667 …}
      +body: """
        > Even you were comfortable giving your address and name to 4 other parties\n
        \n
        They have never said that, did they?
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 2
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1700334784 {#1439
        date: 2023-11-18 20:13:04.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@beefpeach@infosec.pub"
        "@BaumGeist@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1666 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1678 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1673 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1676 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1574 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1572 …}
      -id: 137660
      -bodyTs: "'4':11 'address':7 'comfort':4 'even':1 'give':5 'name':9 'never':16 'parti':13 'said':17"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://beehaw.org/comment/1677186"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700334784 {#1435
        date: 2023-11-18 20:13:04.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 137660
    }
    0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2199
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1592 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1579 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2194 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1667 …}
      +body: """
        Where did they say that they were comfortable doing that? I don’t see a word or an acronym of it.\n
        \n
        Sometimes you must do things that you are not comfortable doing, but you just can’t avoid it. Doing that for the ISP (who need to set up the cable into your home and the gateway) is not the same as doing that for e.g. netflix or facebook.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701657811 {#2217
        date: 2023-12-04 03:43:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@beefpeach@infosec.pub"
        "@BaumGeist@lemmy.ml"
        "@ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2195 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2197 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2206 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2201 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2203 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2212 …}
      -id: 194328
      -bodyTs: "'acronym':19 'avoid':38 'cabl':51 'comfort':8,31 'e.g':66 'facebook':69 'gateway':57 'home':54 'isp':44 'must':24 'need':46 'netflix':67 'say':4 'see':14 'set':48 'sometim':22 'thing':26 'word':16"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://beehaw.org/comment/1801799"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701657811 {#2196
        date: 2023-12-04 03:43:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 194328
    }
  ]
  -id: 13897
  -titleTs: "'feel':1 'like':2 'lost':6 'privaci':3 'war':7"
  -bodyTs: "'4':71 '6':6 '80':38 'address':14,30,45 'ago':8 'alreadi':46 'america':94 'broker':40 'compani':21,72 'constant':80 'data':39,84 'direct':93 'dmv':19 'dream':56 'everyth':62 'feel':47 'found':34 'given':11,75 'go':96 'inform':77 'internet':22 'kind':53 'know':27 'legit':43 'like':48 'matter':68,86 'moment':59 'money':102 'month':7 'move':4 'name':16 'new':44 'obvious':26 'opteri':32 'person':83 'phone':20 'privaci':49 'properti':25 'ran':31 'real':13,29 'recent':3 'rental':24 'right':63 'sad':91 'sell':81 'think':65 'toward':97 'truli':90 'wet':55"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1700323969
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://infosec.pub/post/5010894"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700237569 {#3336
    date: 2023-11-17 17:12:49.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1592
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3315 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1579 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3179 …}
  +slug: "Feeling-like-Privacy-is-a-lost-war"
  +title: "Feeling like Privacy is a lost war."
  +url: null
  +body: """
    So, I recently moved about 6 months ago. Have only given my real address and name to the DMV, Phone Company, Internet, and rental property(obviously knows my real address)\n
    \n
    Ran Optery and found out that over 80 data brokers have my legit new address already.\n
    \n
    Feeling like privacy is just some kind of wet dream at the moment. I do everything right, I think but no matter what the 4 companies I have given my information too will constantly sell my personal data no matter what.\n
    \n
    It’s truly sad the direction America is going towards, all for some more money.
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 50
  +favouriteCount: 246
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1709334867 {#3347
    date: 2024-03-02 00:14:27.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3352 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3355 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3357 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3359 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3361 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3363 …}
  +children: [
    1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1697
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1592 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1579 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1667 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1667 …}
      +body: """
        > Even you were comfortable giving your address and name to 4 other parties\n
        \n
        They have never said that, did they?
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 2
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1700334784 {#1439
        date: 2023-11-18 20:13:04.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@beefpeach@infosec.pub"
        "@BaumGeist@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1666 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1678 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1673 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1676 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1574 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1572 …}
      -id: 137660
      -bodyTs: "'4':11 'address':7 'comfort':4 'even':1 'give':5 'name':9 'never':16 'parti':13 'said':17"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://beehaw.org/comment/1677186"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700334784 {#1435
        date: 2023-11-18 20:13:04.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 137660
    }
    0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2199
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1592 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1579 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2194 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1667 …}
      +body: """
        Where did they say that they were comfortable doing that? I don’t see a word or an acronym of it.\n
        \n
        Sometimes you must do things that you are not comfortable doing, but you just can’t avoid it. Doing that for the ISP (who need to set up the cable into your home and the gateway) is not the same as doing that for e.g. netflix or facebook.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 0
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701657811 {#2217
        date: 2023-12-04 03:43:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@beefpeach@infosec.pub"
        "@BaumGeist@lemmy.ml"
        "@ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2195 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2197 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2206 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2201 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2203 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2212 …}
      -id: 194328
      -bodyTs: "'acronym':19 'avoid':38 'cabl':51 'comfort':8,31 'e.g':66 'facebook':69 'gateway':57 'home':54 'isp':44 'must':24 'need':46 'netflix':67 'say':4 'see':14 'set':48 'sometim':22 'thing':26 'word':16"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://beehaw.org/comment/1801799"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701657811 {#2196
        date: 2023-12-04 03:43:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 194328
    }
  ]
  -id: 13897
  -titleTs: "'feel':1 'like':2 'lost':6 'privaci':3 'war':7"
  -bodyTs: "'4':71 '6':6 '80':38 'address':14,30,45 'ago':8 'alreadi':46 'america':94 'broker':40 'compani':21,72 'constant':80 'data':39,84 'direct':93 'dmv':19 'dream':56 'everyth':62 'feel':47 'found':34 'given':11,75 'go':96 'inform':77 'internet':22 'kind':53 'know':27 'legit':43 'like':48 'matter':68,86 'moment':59 'money':102 'month':7 'move':4 'name':16 'new':44 'obvious':26 'opteri':32 'person':83 'phone':20 'privaci':49 'properti':25 'ran':31 'real':13,29 'recent':3 'rental':24 'right':63 'sad':91 'sell':81 'think':65 'toward':97 'truli':90 'wet':55"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1700323969
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://infosec.pub/post/5010894"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700237569 {#3336
    date: 2023-11-17 17:12:49.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1592
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#3315 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1579 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#3179 …}
  +slug: "Feeling-like-Privacy-is-a-lost-war"
  +title: "Feeling like Privacy is a lost war."
  +url: null
  +body: """
    So, I recently moved about 6 months ago. Have only given my real address and name to the DMV, Phone Company, Internet, and rental property(obviously knows my real address)\n
    \n
    Ran Optery and found out that over 80 data brokers have my legit new address already.\n
    \n
    Feeling like privacy is just some kind of wet dream at the moment. I do everything right, I think but no matter what the 4 companies I have given my information too will constantly sell my personal data no matter what.\n
    \n
    It’s truly sad the direction America is going towards, all for some more money.
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 50
  +favouriteCount: 246
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1709334867 {#3347
    date: 2024-03-02 00:14:27.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3352 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3355 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3357 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3359 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3361 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3363 …}
  +children: [
    1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1697
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1592 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1579 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1667 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1667 …}
      +body: """
        > Even you were comfortable giving your address and name to 4 other parties\n
        \n
        They have never said that, did they?
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 2
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1700334784 {#1439
        date: 2023-11-18 20:13:04.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@beefpeach@infosec.pub"
        "@BaumGeist@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1666 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1678 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1673 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1676 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1574 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1572 …}
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://beehaw.org/comment/1677186"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700334784 {#1435
        date: 2023-11-18 20:13:04.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 137660
    }
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1592 …2}
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      When I press on some message to forward it, it shows me Random usernames of contacts I don’t know. And it even shows some Mobile Numbers I don’t know. For example, one number starts with +964 that’s Iraq. I’m from Europe tho. These contacts and numbers are from all over the place.\n
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    So Signal does not protect against those that fill their contacts with every existing number?\n
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    But also, this does not explain why is it only happening in the desktop app for OP
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    Basically\n
    \n
    - Sandboxing is bad, bubblewrap (used in Flatpak) is a really good implementation though. Firefox and other apps are not very well sandboxed though\n
    - The kernel is endangered through user namespaces (used in Flatpak and Podman/Docker containers i.e. in Distrobox and Toolbox too)\n
    - the root password can be extracted veeery easily, especially when entering it through a terminal. Windows “okay” button might actually be more secure!\n
    - X11 is insecure, okay we know that\n
    - the kernel is very bloated and everything in there has all the permissions, which is not needed\n
    - Kernel bugs are often not fixed quickly or at all\n
    - Stable Distros are insecure if only CVE bugs are backported, as many security bugs dont get a CVE\n
    \n
    I am currently experimenting with the hardened Kernel and hardened_malloc, I use GrapheneOS since over a year.\n
    \n
    On Linux its a bit more difficult though, as Flatpak and Distrobox dont work anymore.\n
    \n
    This would mean user namespaces need to be enabled again, which I can’t seem to make work with\n
    \n
    `sudo sysctl -w kernel.unprivileged_users_clone=1`\n
    \n
    But the file doesnt exist and creating it doesnt work, probably needs to be a karg or something?\n
    \n
    I am testing all this using the hardened mod of Ublue (a slight Fedora deviation using its image-based distribution model):\n
    \n
    [github.com/qoijjj/hardened-images](https://github.com/qoijjj/hardened-images)\n
    \n
    The images are rather opinionated though and have things like Flatpak removed, making them nearly unusable.\n
    \n
    Maybe nix is a solution? Would this be a good idea?\n
    \n
    Another point, bubblejail is not yet in the Fedora repos, which would be a way to make secure sandboxing accessible. [Here](https://github.com/rusty-snake/fedora-extras/tree/main/bubblejail) is a spec file from rusty-snake.\n
    \n
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        I remember reading there, when it wasn’t on github pages but it’s own website, the recommendation to keep your critical dotfiles permissioned to a different user account of yours. I don’t think that’s bad advice. Yes it is probably not needed if you use the system as a pro sysadmin for server purposes, but for desktop use it’s just natural that you’ll run a lot more programs in a much less controlled manner.\n
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    Basically\n
    \n
    - Sandboxing is bad, bubblewrap (used in Flatpak) is a really good implementation though. Firefox and other apps are not very well sandboxed though\n
    - The kernel is endangered through user namespaces (used in Flatpak and Podman/Docker containers i.e. in Distrobox and Toolbox too)\n
    - the root password can be extracted veeery easily, especially when entering it through a terminal. Windows “okay” button might actually be more secure!\n
    - X11 is insecure, okay we know that\n
    - the kernel is very bloated and everything in there has all the permissions, which is not needed\n
    - Kernel bugs are often not fixed quickly or at all\n
    - Stable Distros are insecure if only CVE bugs are backported, as many security bugs dont get a CVE\n
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    On Linux its a bit more difficult though, as Flatpak and Distrobox dont work anymore.\n
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    This would mean user namespaces need to be enabled again, which I can’t seem to make work with\n
    \n
    `sudo sysctl -w kernel.unprivileged_users_clone=1`\n
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    \n
    I am testing all this using the hardened mod of Ublue (a slight Fedora deviation using its image-based distribution model):\n
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    [github.com/qoijjj/hardened-images](https://github.com/qoijjj/hardened-images)\n
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    Maybe nix is a solution? Would this be a good idea?\n
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    I remember reading there, when it wasn’t on github pages but it’s own website, the recommendation to keep your critical dotfiles permissioned to a different user account of yours. I don’t think that’s bad advice. Yes it is probably not needed if you use the system as a pro sysadmin for server purposes, but for desktop use it’s just natural that you’ll run a lot more programs in a much less controlled manner.\n
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        On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
        What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
        But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
        Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
        \n
        Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
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        It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
        I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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        > How is it not decentralized?\n
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        Traffic is flowing through computers of volunteers, that part is indeed decentralized, but your client needs to find them, and that happens through a centralized service, through a “directory authory” if I’m not mistaken
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        Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
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        It looks it knows what to block from a local blocklist file and from a “blocklist feed”, but I don’t know what’s the latter right now. I hope you can excuse me on that, I’m also quite new on the topic.
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        Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
        But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
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        Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
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        On how does it work: when you start up your router (a software package, through which other programs can use the network), it asks a bunch of preconfigured servers about known I2P peers, through a process called reseeding. Afaik there are currently 12 preconfigured reseed servers, but you can bring your own, or if you know someone with an I2P router who you trust, they can make a reseed file for you which you can import.  \n
        After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
        This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
        \n
        On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
        What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
        But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
        Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
        \n
        Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
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        It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
        I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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        > How is it not decentralized?\n
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        Traffic is flowing through computers of volunteers, that part is indeed decentralized, but your client needs to find them, and that happens through a centralized service, through a “directory authory” if I’m not mistaken
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        Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
        [This article](https://blog.torproject.org/introducing-bastet-our-new-directory-authority/) claims that their list is hardcoded, but honestly I’m not sure right now whether it means you can change it.\n
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        I2P has a mechsnism for banning routers, permanently or temporarily.  \n
        It looks it knows what to block from a local blocklist file and from a “blocklist feed”, but I don’t know what’s the latter right now. I hope you can excuse me on that, I’m also quite new on the topic.
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        +body: "Yes, it is not as decentralised as you have thought. I thought this is a fairly known fact. If you need something truly decentralized, I2P is probably the way."
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        Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
        But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
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        Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
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        After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
        This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
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        On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
        What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
        But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
        Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
        \n
        Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
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        It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
        I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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        > How is it not decentralized?\n
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          Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
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          I2P has a mechsnism for banning routers, permanently or temporarily.  \n
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    Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
    But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
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    Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
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    On how does it work: when you start up your router (a software package, through which other programs can use the network), it asks a bunch of preconfigured servers about known I2P peers, through a process called reseeding. Afaik there are currently 12 preconfigured reseed servers, but you can bring your own, or if you know someone with an I2P router who you trust, they can make a reseed file for you which you can import.  \n
    After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
    This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
    \n
    On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
    What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
    But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
    Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
    \n
    Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
    \n
    ---\n
    \n
    It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
    I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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          > How is it not decentralized?\n
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          Traffic is flowing through computers of volunteers, that part is indeed decentralized, but your client needs to find them, and that happens through a centralized service, through a “directory authory” if I’m not mistaken
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          Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
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    Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
    But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
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    Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
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    After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
    This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
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    On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
    What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
    But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
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    Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
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    It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
    I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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          > How is it not decentralized?\n
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          Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
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    Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
    But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
    \n
    Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
    \n
    On how does it work: when you start up your router (a software package, through which other programs can use the network), it asks a bunch of preconfigured servers about known I2P peers, through a process called reseeding. Afaik there are currently 12 preconfigured reseed servers, but you can bring your own, or if you know someone with an I2P router who you trust, they can make a reseed file for you which you can import.  \n
    After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
    This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
    \n
    On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
    What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
    But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
    Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
    \n
    Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
    \n
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    \n
    It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
    I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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          Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
          But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
          \n
          Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
          \n
          On how does it work: when you start up your router (a software package, through which other programs can use the network), it asks a bunch of preconfigured servers about known I2P peers, through a process called reseeding. Afaik there are currently 12 preconfigured reseed servers, but you can bring your own, or if you know someone with an I2P router who you trust, they can make a reseed file for you which you can import.  \n
          After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
          This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
          \n
          On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
          What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
          But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
          Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
          \n
          Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
          \n
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          \n
          It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
          I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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          > How is it not decentralized?\n
          \n
          Traffic is flowing through computers of volunteers, that part is indeed decentralized, but your client needs to find them, and that happens through a centralized service, through a “directory authory” if I’m not mistaken
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          Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
          [This article](https://blog.torproject.org/introducing-bastet-our-new-directory-authority/) claims that their list is hardcoded, but honestly I’m not sure right now whether it means you can change it.\n
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          I2P has a mechsnism for banning routers, permanently or temporarily.  \n
          It looks it knows what to block from a local blocklist file and from a “blocklist feed”, but I don’t know what’s the latter right now. I hope you can excuse me on that, I’m also quite new on the topic.
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          Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
          But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
          \n
          Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
          \n
          On how does it work: when you start up your router (a software package, through which other programs can use the network), it asks a bunch of preconfigured servers about known I2P peers, through a process called reseeding. Afaik there are currently 12 preconfigured reseed servers, but you can bring your own, or if you know someone with an I2P router who you trust, they can make a reseed file for you which you can import.  \n
          After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
          This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
          \n
          On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
          What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
          But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
          Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
          \n
          Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
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          ---\n
          \n
          It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
          I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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          > How is it not decentralized?\n
          \n
          Traffic is flowing through computers of volunteers, that part is indeed decentralized, but your client needs to find them, and that happens through a centralized service, through a “directory authory” if I’m not mistaken
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        +body: "I’m using something developed by Russians, said I’m not disliking Russians, and now I’m a russophobe. Ok. You do you."
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          Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
          [This article](https://blog.torproject.org/introducing-bastet-our-new-directory-authority/) claims that their list is hardcoded, but honestly I’m not sure right now whether it means you can change it.\n
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          I2P has a mechsnism for banning routers, permanently or temporarily.  \n
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          Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
          But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
          \n
          Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
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          On how does it work: when you start up your router (a software package, through which other programs can use the network), it asks a bunch of preconfigured servers about known I2P peers, through a process called reseeding. Afaik there are currently 12 preconfigured reseed servers, but you can bring your own, or if you know someone with an I2P router who you trust, they can make a reseed file for you which you can import.  \n
          After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
          This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
          \n
          On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
          What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
          But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
          Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
          \n
          Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
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          It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
          I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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          > How is it not decentralized?\n
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          Traffic is flowing through computers of volunteers, that part is indeed decentralized, but your client needs to find them, and that happens through a centralized service, through a “directory authory” if I’m not mistaken
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          Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
          [This article](https://blog.torproject.org/introducing-bastet-our-new-directory-authority/) claims that their list is hardcoded, but honestly I’m not sure right now whether it means you can change it.\n
          \n
          I2P has a mechsnism for banning routers, permanently or temporarily.  \n
          It looks it knows what to block from a local blocklist file and from a “blocklist feed”, but I don’t know what’s the latter right now. I hope you can excuse me on that, I’m also quite new on the topic.
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          Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
          But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
          \n
          Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
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          On how does it work: when you start up your router (a software package, through which other programs can use the network), it asks a bunch of preconfigured servers about known I2P peers, through a process called reseeding. Afaik there are currently 12 preconfigured reseed servers, but you can bring your own, or if you know someone with an I2P router who you trust, they can make a reseed file for you which you can import.  \n
          After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
          This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
          \n
          On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
          What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
          But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
          Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
          \n
          Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
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          \n
          It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
          I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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          Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
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    > How is it not decentralized?\n
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    Traffic is flowing through computers of volunteers, that part is indeed decentralized, but your client needs to find them, and that happens through a centralized service, through a “directory authory” if I’m not mistaken
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          Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
          But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
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          Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
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          After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
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          \n
          On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
          What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
          But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
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          Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
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          It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
          I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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          Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
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    > How is it not decentralized?\n
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    Traffic is flowing through computers of volunteers, that part is indeed decentralized, but your client needs to find them, and that happens through a centralized service, through a “directory authory” if I’m not mistaken
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          Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
          But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
          \n
          Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
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          On how does it work: when you start up your router (a software package, through which other programs can use the network), it asks a bunch of preconfigured servers about known I2P peers, through a process called reseeding. Afaik there are currently 12 preconfigured reseed servers, but you can bring your own, or if you know someone with an I2P router who you trust, they can make a reseed file for you which you can import.  \n
          After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
          This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
          \n
          On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
          What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
          But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
          Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
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          Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
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          \n
          It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
          I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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    > How is it not decentralized?\n
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          Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
          But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
          \n
          Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
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          On how does it work: when you start up your router (a software package, through which other programs can use the network), it asks a bunch of preconfigured servers about known I2P peers, through a process called reseeding. Afaik there are currently 12 preconfigured reseed servers, but you can bring your own, or if you know someone with an I2P router who you trust, they can make a reseed file for you which you can import.  \n
          After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
          This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
          \n
          On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
          What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
          But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
          Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
          \n
          Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
          I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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          > How is it not decentralized?\n
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          Traffic is flowing through computers of volunteers, that part is indeed decentralized, but your client needs to find them, and that happens through a centralized service, through a “directory authory” if I’m not mistaken
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          Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
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          I2P has a mechsnism for banning routers, permanently or temporarily.  \n
          It looks it knows what to block from a local blocklist file and from a “blocklist feed”, but I don’t know what’s the latter right now. I hope you can excuse me on that, I’m also quite new on the topic.
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          Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
          But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
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          Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
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          On how does it work: when you start up your router (a software package, through which other programs can use the network), it asks a bunch of preconfigured servers about known I2P peers, through a process called reseeding. Afaik there are currently 12 preconfigured reseed servers, but you can bring your own, or if you know someone with an I2P router who you trust, they can make a reseed file for you which you can import.  \n
          After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
          This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
          \n
          On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
          What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
          But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
          Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
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          Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
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          It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
          I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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          > How is it not decentralized?\n
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          Traffic is flowing through computers of volunteers, that part is indeed decentralized, but your client needs to find them, and that happens through a centralized service, through a “directory authory” if I’m not mistaken
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          Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
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          Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
          But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
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          Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
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          On how does it work: when you start up your router (a software package, through which other programs can use the network), it asks a bunch of preconfigured servers about known I2P peers, through a process called reseeding. Afaik there are currently 12 preconfigured reseed servers, but you can bring your own, or if you know someone with an I2P router who you trust, they can make a reseed file for you which you can import.  \n
          After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
          This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
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          On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
          What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
          But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
          Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
          \n
          Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
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          It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
          I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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          > How is it not decentralized?\n
          \n
          Traffic is flowing through computers of volunteers, that part is indeed decentralized, but your client needs to find them, and that happens through a centralized service, through a “directory authory” if I’m not mistaken
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          Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
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          I2P has a mechsnism for banning routers, permanently or temporarily.  \n
          It looks it knows what to block from a local blocklist file and from a “blocklist feed”, but I don’t know what’s the latter right now. I hope you can excuse me on that, I’m also quite new on the topic.
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          Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
          But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
          \n
          Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
          \n
          On how does it work: when you start up your router (a software package, through which other programs can use the network), it asks a bunch of preconfigured servers about known I2P peers, through a process called reseeding. Afaik there are currently 12 preconfigured reseed servers, but you can bring your own, or if you know someone with an I2P router who you trust, they can make a reseed file for you which you can import.  \n
          After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
          This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
          \n
          On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
          What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
          But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
          Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
          \n
          Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
          \n
          ---\n
          \n
          It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
          I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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          > How is it not decentralized?\n
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          Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
          [This article](https://blog.torproject.org/introducing-bastet-our-new-directory-authority/) claims that their list is hardcoded, but honestly I’m not sure right now whether it means you can change it.\n
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          I2P has a mechsnism for banning routers, permanently or temporarily.  \n
          It looks it knows what to block from a local blocklist file and from a “blocklist feed”, but I don’t know what’s the latter right now. I hope you can excuse me on that, I’m also quite new on the topic.
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          Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
          But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
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          Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
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          On how does it work: when you start up your router (a software package, through which other programs can use the network), it asks a bunch of preconfigured servers about known I2P peers, through a process called reseeding. Afaik there are currently 12 preconfigured reseed servers, but you can bring your own, or if you know someone with an I2P router who you trust, they can make a reseed file for you which you can import.  \n
          After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
          This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
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          On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
          What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
          But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
          Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
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          Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
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          It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
          I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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          > How is it not decentralized?\n
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          Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
          [This article](https://blog.torproject.org/introducing-bastet-our-new-directory-authority/) claims that their list is hardcoded, but honestly I’m not sure right now whether it means you can change it.\n
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          I2P has a mechsnism for banning routers, permanently or temporarily.  \n
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          Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
          But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
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          Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
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          On how does it work: when you start up your router (a software package, through which other programs can use the network), it asks a bunch of preconfigured servers about known I2P peers, through a process called reseeding. Afaik there are currently 12 preconfigured reseed servers, but you can bring your own, or if you know someone with an I2P router who you trust, they can make a reseed file for you which you can import.  \n
          After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
          This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
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          On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
          What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
          But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
          Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
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          Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
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          It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
          I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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          > How is it not decentralized?\n
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          Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
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          Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
          But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
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          Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
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          On how does it work: when you start up your router (a software package, through which other programs can use the network), it asks a bunch of preconfigured servers about known I2P peers, through a process called reseeding. Afaik there are currently 12 preconfigured reseed servers, but you can bring your own, or if you know someone with an I2P router who you trust, they can make a reseed file for you which you can import.  \n
          After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
          This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
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          On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
          What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
          But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
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          \n
          Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
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          It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
          I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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    Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
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    I2P has a mechsnism for banning routers, permanently or temporarily.  \n
    It looks it knows what to block from a local blocklist file and from a “blocklist feed”, but I don’t know what’s the latter right now. I hope you can excuse me on that, I’m also quite new on the topic.
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          Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
          But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
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          Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
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          After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
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          On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
          What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
          But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
          Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
          \n
          Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
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          It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
          I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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    Here is the list of the currently available directory servers: [metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:author…](https://metrics.torproject.org/rs.html#search/flag:authority)  \n
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    I2P has a mechsnism for banning routers, permanently or temporarily.  \n
    It looks it knows what to block from a local blocklist file and from a “blocklist feed”, but I don’t know what’s the latter right now. I hope you can excuse me on that, I’m also quite new on the topic.
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          Well, yeah, about the speed… it’s not fast. And probably never will be fast as plain internet. Just imagine what is happening: each service you connect to is usually 6 hops away, which in the worst case (where each pair of peers is the furthest possible from each other) would require traffic to take 3 rounds between e.g. west asia and the usa. Here’s an other explanation with a diagram: [geti2p.net/en/faq#slow](https://geti2p.net/en/faq#slow)  \n
          But that’s just the latency, and it can be tuned. If you want to play online games with a group of people over I2P, you could use for instance a 1-hop tunnel, and ask the others too to use a 1-hop tunnel, and now it’s totally different. Of course this hurts your and the other players anonymity, but it could be acceptable, especially if you make it select a router relatively close to you.\n
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          Bandwidth is again a different topic, I think that could improve even without sacrificing on the tunnel length, with more (relatively) high bandwidth routers joining the network, but of course your tunnel’s bandwidth will always be limited by the slowest router in the chain. Fortunately there are ways to have a tunnel through more performant routers.\n
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          After that, your router will talk to the other routers it now knows about, and ask them too about the routers they know.  \n
          This means that it’s better (while not necessary) to have a dedicated machine on which a router is always running and online, instead of having it run for the 30 minutes every time you power on your desktop. It doesn’t have to be powerful, it can be a low power consumption SBC (like a raspberri pi or similar), and I think it’s also possible to set up an unused android phone for this purpose with an app, but you probably don’t want it to use your mobile data plan.\n
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          On why is it better for torrenting: I don’t remember the details on that.  \n
          What I remember is that it’s often said that the protocol was “built for that”.  \n
          But there’s also another thing: vandwitdh is naturally less of a scarcity here, compared to Tor. Connecting to the network requires the use of a “router”, which besides giving access to it for you, also automatically contributes to the network with your internet connection’s bandwidth capacity (except if limited by the tech of your ISP, like with CGNAT; it can still contribute some but usually it’s less), and in turn most users will provide a “relay” to the network. On the Tor network, most users are just users, their clients are not participating in routing the traffic of other users, and so they are only consuming the capacity provided by others.  \n
          Also, afaik torrenting on Tor always needs to make use of an exit node to access the tracker and all the peers, while on I2P it all happens inside the network, without placing a huge load on outproxies (exit nodes in I2P terms)\n
          \n
          Also, here’s a comparison between I2P and Tor: [geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor](https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor)\n
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          It may seem that I2P has a bunch of downsides, and it may discourage you from using it, but let me tell you how I think about it.  \n
          I don’t use it for everything, just as I don’t use the Tor network on a daily basis, but when I need it it’s there, it makes me easier to search on a few private matters, and it runs in the background so I’m basically effortlessly helping the other users, when not counting the initial setup and the electricity costs of course (the former was not much, and the latter does not depend on this in my case)
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