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> The backend is the real interesting part, and the only way that we can be sure that “they cannot read the emails”\n
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That is an unsolved problem to my knowledge; there is no way to know which software they’re actually running. Even if they published the source code, they could trivially apply a patch in their deployment that stores all incoming email somewhere and you’d be none the wiser.\n
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Even if they published source code and could somehow prove to you that they’re running a version derived from it, you would still not be safe from surveillance as one could simply MITM all connections. See i.e. [notes.valdikss.org.ru/jabber.ru-mitm/](https://notes.valdikss.org.ru/jabber.ru-mitm/).\n
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It’s like asking Signal to build in support for IRC; it does not make sense for them to do that in any way without malicious intent needed.\n
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That is an unsolved problem to my knowledge; there is no way to know which software they’re actually running. Even if they published the source code, they could trivially apply a patch in their deployment that stores all incoming email somewhere and you’d be none the wiser.\n
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Even if they published source code and could somehow prove to you that they’re running a version derived from it, you would still not be safe from surveillance as one could simply MITM all connections. See i.e. [notes.valdikss.org.ru/jabber.ru-mitm/](https://notes.valdikss.org.ru/jabber.ru-mitm/).\n
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That’s likely one of the reasons they do everything they can to make PGP accessible to every user.\n
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> imap/smtp can be toggled with a warning, if that’s really their concern\n
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It’s plain and simply not how their service works. They’d have to build most of their service a second time but unencrypted.\n
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It’s like asking Signal to build in support for IRC; it does not make sense for them to do that in any way without malicious intent needed.\n
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> no IMAP = no easy migration to somewhere else\n
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While I’d still prefer it, OSS can’t really help with that because what’s really required here is remote attestation. \n
That is an unsolved problem to my knowledge; there is no way to know which software they’re actually running. Even if they published the source code, they could trivially apply a patch in their deployment that stores all incoming email somewhere and you’d be none the wiser.\n
\n
Even if they published source code and could somehow prove to you that they’re running a version derived from it, you would still not be safe from surveillance as one could simply MITM all connections. See i.e. [notes.valdikss.org.ru/jabber.ru-mitm/](https://notes.valdikss.org.ru/jabber.ru-mitm/).\n
\n
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> imap/smtp can be toggled with a warning, if that’s really their concern\n
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It’s plain and simply not how their service works. They’d have to build most of their service a second time but unencrypted.\n
\n
It’s like asking Signal to build in support for IRC; it does not make sense for them to do that in any way without malicious intent needed.\n
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> no IMAP = no easy migration to somewhere else\n
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> They’re not doing like proton and close basic stuff like IMAP and SMTP as a way to force you on the official apps\n
\n
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> They’re not doing like proton and close basic stuff like IMAP and SMTP as a way to force you on the official apps\n
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> meaning every step of building the kernel, including the steps taken to build the C compiler toolchain, are produced by code that is simple enough to check for correctness and safety.\n
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Unless we get some *serious* money, effort and/or regulation w.r.t. OSS firmware, that will likely never be the case. \n
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> meaning every step of building the kernel, including the steps taken to build the C compiler toolchain, are produced by code that is simple enough to check for correctness and safety.\n
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Ah I think Windows does this “helpful” thing where it installs its bootloader into the ESP of any drive if it’s already present rather than the drive you explicitly told it to install onto.\n
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Ah I think Windows does this “helpful” thing where it installs its bootloader into the ESP of any drive if it’s already present rather than the drive you explicitly told it to install onto.\n
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