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Token

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Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 0.66 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.04 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
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Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1716
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2917 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1720 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1640 …}
  +slug: "Content-Warning-Transphobia-From-the-very-same-people-who-tell"
  +title: "[Content Warning: Transphobia] From the very same people who tell us to "boycott Wayland""
  +url: null
  +body: """
    ![Transphobic comments](https://i.imgur.com/S20wGsa.png)\n
    \n
    ![Intentionally silencing the truth](https://i.imgur.com/waPxEaD.png)
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 168
  +favouriteCount: 166
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: true
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1700179929 {#2912
    date: 2023-11-17 01:12:09.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2919 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2921 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2923 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2925 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2927 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2929 …}
  +children: [
    1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2462
      +user: App\Entity\User {#260 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1716 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1720 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2447 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1692 …}
      +body: """
        > Where I live at least, there is a difference because they are performing a task that they are being directed to perform as part of their job\n
        \n
        I agree. This makes it a workplace problem. Sucks.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1700059000 {#1733
        date: 2023-11-15 15:36:40.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@IverCoder@lemm.ee"
        "@RegalPotoo@lemmy.world"
        "@_edge@discuss.tchncs.de"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2453 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2457 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2455 …}
      -id: 127129
      -bodyTs: "'agre':29 'differ':9 'direct':20 'job':27 'least':5 'live':3 'make':31 'part':24 'perform':13,22 'problem':35 'suck':36 'task':15 'workplac':34"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/4881726"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700059000 {#2422
        date: 2023-11-15 15:36:40.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 127129
    }
    0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1621
      +user: App\Entity\User {#260 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1716 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1720 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1692 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1692 …}
      +body: """
        > that is a hostile work environment\n
        \n
        I understand your frustration. I go to GitHub für code, not for some weirdo’s Telegram channel. But, come on, do your employees have access to the internet? Does someone maintain a Facebook page on the clock? Is Google allowed? Reasonable people can distinguish between workplace and internet hate.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 15
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1699874131 {#1525
        date: 2023-11-13 12:15:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@IverCoder@lemm.ee"
        "@RegalPotoo@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1616 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1598 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1629 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …}
      -id: 119380
      -bodyTs: "'access':31 'allow':46 'channel':23 'clock':43 'code':16 'come':25 'distinguish':50 'employe':29 'environ':6 'facebook':39 'frustrat':10 'für':15 'github':14 'go':12 'googl':45 'hate':55 'hostil':4 'internet':34,54 'maintain':37 'page':40 'peopl':48 'reason':47 'someon':36 'telegram':22 'understand':8 'weirdo':20 'work':5 'workplac':52"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/4817508"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699874131 {#1568
        date: 2023-11-13 12:15:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 119380
    }
  ]
  -id: 12460
  -titleTs: "'boycott':13 'content':1 'peopl':8 'tell':10 'transphobia':3 'us':11 'warn':2 'wayland':14"
  -bodyTs: "'/s20wgsa.png)':5 '/wapxead.png)':12 'comment':2 'i.imgur.com':4,11 'i.imgur.com/s20wgsa.png)':3 'i.imgur.com/wapxead.png)':10 'intent':6 'silenc':7 'transphob':1 'truth':9"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1699935548
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemm.ee/post/14744568"
  +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700001047 {#2898
    date: 2023-11-14 23:30:47.0 +01:00
  }
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699849148 {#2856
    date: 2023-11-13 05:19:08.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1716
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2917 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1720 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1640 …}
  +slug: "Content-Warning-Transphobia-From-the-very-same-people-who-tell"
  +title: "[Content Warning: Transphobia] From the very same people who tell us to "boycott Wayland""
  +url: null
  +body: """
    ![Transphobic comments](https://i.imgur.com/S20wGsa.png)\n
    \n
    ![Intentionally silencing the truth](https://i.imgur.com/waPxEaD.png)
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 168
  +favouriteCount: 166
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: true
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1700179929 {#2912
    date: 2023-11-17 01:12:09.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2919 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2921 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2923 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2925 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2927 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2929 …}
  +children: [
    1 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#2462
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1716 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1720 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2447 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1692 …}
      +body: """
        > Where I live at least, there is a difference because they are performing a task that they are being directed to perform as part of their job\n
        \n
        I agree. This makes it a workplace problem. Sucks.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1700059000 {#1733
        date: 2023-11-15 15:36:40.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@IverCoder@lemm.ee"
        "@RegalPotoo@lemmy.world"
        "@_edge@discuss.tchncs.de"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2458 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2456 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2453 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2457 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2455 …}
      -id: 127129
      -bodyTs: "'agre':29 'differ':9 'direct':20 'job':27 'least':5 'live':3 'make':31 'part':24 'perform':13,22 'problem':35 'suck':36 'task':15 'workplac':34"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/4881726"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1700059000 {#2422
        date: 2023-11-15 15:36:40.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 127129
    }
    0 => App\Entity\EntryComment {#1621
      +user: App\Entity\User {#260 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1716 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1720 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1692 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1692 …}
      +body: """
        > that is a hostile work environment\n
        \n
        I understand your frustration. I go to GitHub für code, not for some weirdo’s Telegram channel. But, come on, do your employees have access to the internet? Does someone maintain a Facebook page on the clock? Is Google allowed? Reasonable people can distinguish between workplace and internet hate.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 15
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1699874131 {#1525
        date: 2023-11-13 12:15:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@IverCoder@lemm.ee"
        "@RegalPotoo@lemmy.world"
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      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1795 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1616 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1598 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1629 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1739 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1689 …}
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/4817508"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699874131 {#1568
        date: 2023-11-13 12:15:31.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 119380
    }
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  -id: 12460
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  -bodyTs: "'/s20wgsa.png)':5 '/wapxead.png)':12 'comment':2 'i.imgur.com':4,11 'i.imgur.com/s20wgsa.png)':3 'i.imgur.com/wapxead.png)':10 'intent':6 'silenc':7 'transphob':1 'truth':9"
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    date: 2023-11-14 23:30:47.0 +01:00
  }
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1699849148 {#2856
    date: 2023-11-13 05:19:08.0 +01:00
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}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1716
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  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1720 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1640 …}
  +slug: "Content-Warning-Transphobia-From-the-very-same-people-who-tell"
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  +url: null
  +body: """
    ![Transphobic comments](https://i.imgur.com/S20wGsa.png)\n
    \n
    ![Intentionally silencing the truth](https://i.imgur.com/waPxEaD.png)
    """
  +type: "article"
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  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 168
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  +score: 0
  +isAdult: true
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1700179929 {#2912
    date: 2023-11-17 01:12:09.0 +01:00
  }
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  +mentions: null
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  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2927 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2929 …}
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      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1720 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2447 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1692 …}
      +body: """
        > Where I live at least, there is a difference because they are performing a task that they are being directed to perform as part of their job\n
        \n
        I agree. This makes it a workplace problem. Sucks.
        """
      +lang: "en"
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        date: 2023-11-15 15:36:40.0 +01:00
      }
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        "@RegalPotoo@lemmy.world"
        "@_edge@discuss.tchncs.de"
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      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2453 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2457 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2455 …}
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      +ranking: 0
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      +downVotes: 0
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        date: 2023-11-15 15:36:40.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 127129
    }
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      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1720 …}
      +image: null
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      +body: """
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    Long story short, I have a desktop with Fedora, lovely, fast, sleek and surprisingly reliable for a near rolling distro (it failed me only once back around Fedora 34 or something where it nuked Grub). Tried to install on a 2012 i7 MacBook Air… what a slog!!! Surprisingly Ubuntu runs very smooth on it. I have been bothering all my friends for years about moving to Fedora (back then it was because I hated Unity) but now… I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but… Christ, it does run well! In fairness all my VMs are running DietPi (a slimmed version of Ubuntu) and coming back to the APT world feels like coming back home.\n
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        Ubuntu is nice. Apt/DEB works as they should. Some default apps, mostly browsers, are snaps now, but this does not bother you at all. You were getting them from your distro anyway.\n
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        Flatpak and AppImages work just fine if you need them.\n
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        The Ubuntu desktop (any flavour) just works. Others are different, but nothing is bad about Ubuntu.\n
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        > If it works for you then use it, however if you want the latest packages you’ll have to NOT use the LTS releases in which case be prepared to do a FULL REINSTALL every time a new version comes out.\n
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    Long story short, I have a desktop with Fedora, lovely, fast, sleek and surprisingly reliable for a near rolling distro (it failed me only once back around Fedora 34 or something where it nuked Grub). Tried to install on a 2012 i7 MacBook Air… what a slog!!! Surprisingly Ubuntu runs very smooth on it. I have been bothering all my friends for years about moving to Fedora (back then it was because I hated Unity) but now… I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but… Christ, it does run well! In fairness all my VMs are running DietPi (a slimmed version of Ubuntu) and coming back to the APT world feels like coming back home.\n
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    Thoughts?\n
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    I am not in the mood for Debian. I like the Mint approach but I am not a fan of slow rolling releases and also would like to keep myself as close as upstream as possible, the Debian version is the only one that seems reliable enough but, again, it is Debian, the packages are “old”. Pop Os and similar are two hops away from upstream and so I’d rather not.\n
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    Is Snap really **that** bad?\n
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    Edit: thank you all for sharing your experience !
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        Ubuntu is nice. Apt/DEB works as they should. Some default apps, mostly browsers, are snaps now, but this does not bother you at all. You were getting them from your distro anyway.\n
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        Flatpak and AppImages work just fine if you need them.\n
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        The Ubuntu desktop (any flavour) just works. Others are different, but nothing is bad about Ubuntu.\n
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        Ubuntu is trying new things, proprietary to their ecosystem, e.g. Unity or snap. On the big picture, those are experiment. Ubuntu is still Linux.\n
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        The community reaction to snap is overblown. So Canonical developed something you don’t like? Ignore it. This has mostly been a waste of time for them.\n
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        > If it works for you then use it, however if you want the latest packages you’ll have to NOT use the LTS releases in which case be prepared to do a FULL REINSTALL every time a new version comes out.\n
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        This is just wrong. You can update the LTS release to the next non-LTS release. You only have to unchecked “LTS only”. You can also wait for the next LTS release.\n
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        Well, I’d file this as innovation. Innovation is trying and failing. It’s an experiment. And I’m okay with this.\n
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      Long story short, I have a desktop with Fedora, lovely, fast, sleek and surprisingly reliable for a near rolling distro (it failed me only once back around Fedora 34 or something where it nuked Grub). Tried to install on a 2012 i7 MacBook Air… what a slog!!! Surprisingly Ubuntu runs very smooth on it. I have been bothering all my friends for years about moving to Fedora (back then it was because I hated Unity) but now… I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but… Christ, it does run well! In fairness all my VMs are running DietPi (a slimmed version of Ubuntu) and coming back to the APT world feels like coming back home.\n
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      Long story short, I have a desktop with Fedora, lovely, fast, sleek and surprisingly reliable for a near rolling distro (it failed me only once back around Fedora 34 or something where it nuked Grub). Tried to install on a 2012 i7 MacBook Air… what a slog!!! Surprisingly Ubuntu runs very smooth on it. I have been bothering all my friends for years about moving to Fedora (back then it was because I hated Unity) but now… I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but… Christ, it does run well! In fairness all my VMs are running DietPi (a slimmed version of Ubuntu) and coming back to the APT world feels like coming back home.\n
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      Is Snap really **that** bad?\n
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          > If it works for you then use it, however if you want the latest packages you’ll have to NOT use the LTS releases in which case be prepared to do a FULL REINSTALL every time a new version comes out.\n
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          This is just wrong. You can update the LTS release to the next non-LTS release. You only have to unchecked “LTS only”. You can also wait for the next LTS release.\n
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          Well, I’d file this as innovation. Innovation is trying and failing. It’s an experiment. And I’m okay with this.\n
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    Flatpak and AppImages work just fine if you need them.\n
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      Long story short, I have a desktop with Fedora, lovely, fast, sleek and surprisingly reliable for a near rolling distro (it failed me only once back around Fedora 34 or something where it nuked Grub). Tried to install on a 2012 i7 MacBook Air… what a slog!!! Surprisingly Ubuntu runs very smooth on it. I have been bothering all my friends for years about moving to Fedora (back then it was because I hated Unity) but now… I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but… Christ, it does run well! In fairness all my VMs are running DietPi (a slimmed version of Ubuntu) and coming back to the APT world feels like coming back home.\n
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      Thoughts?\n
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      I am not in the mood for Debian. I like the Mint approach but I am not a fan of slow rolling releases and also would like to keep myself as close as upstream as possible, the Debian version is the only one that seems reliable enough but, again, it is Debian, the packages are “old”. Pop Os and similar are two hops away from upstream and so I’d rather not.\n
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      Is Snap really **that** bad?\n
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      Edit: thank you all for sharing your experience !
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          > If it works for you then use it, however if you want the latest packages you’ll have to NOT use the LTS releases in which case be prepared to do a FULL REINSTALL every time a new version comes out.\n
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          This is just wrong. You can update the LTS release to the next non-LTS release. You only have to unchecked “LTS only”. You can also wait for the next LTS release.\n
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          Well, I’d file this as innovation. Innovation is trying and failing. It’s an experiment. And I’m okay with this.\n
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          Is it wasteful to have KDE and Gnome? Why don’t they give up and merge with each other? Did we really need systemd? Or docker? And why Wayland when every single distro is on X and every single application is on X?\n
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      Long story short, I have a desktop with Fedora, lovely, fast, sleek and surprisingly reliable for a near rolling distro (it failed me only once back around Fedora 34 or something where it nuked Grub). Tried to install on a 2012 i7 MacBook Air… what a slog!!! Surprisingly Ubuntu runs very smooth on it. I have been bothering all my friends for years about moving to Fedora (back then it was because I hated Unity) but now… I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but… Christ, it does run well! In fairness all my VMs are running DietPi (a slimmed version of Ubuntu) and coming back to the APT world feels like coming back home.\n
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      Thoughts?\n
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      I am not in the mood for Debian. I like the Mint approach but I am not a fan of slow rolling releases and also would like to keep myself as close as upstream as possible, the Debian version is the only one that seems reliable enough but, again, it is Debian, the packages are “old”. Pop Os and similar are two hops away from upstream and so I’d rather not.\n
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      Edit: thank you all for sharing your experience !
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    > If it works for you then use it, however if you want the latest packages you’ll have to NOT use the LTS releases in which case be prepared to do a FULL REINSTALL every time a new version comes out.\n
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          Well, I’d file this as innovation. Innovation is trying and failing. It’s an experiment. And I’m okay with this.\n
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      Long story short, I have a desktop with Fedora, lovely, fast, sleek and surprisingly reliable for a near rolling distro (it failed me only once back around Fedora 34 or something where it nuked Grub). Tried to install on a 2012 i7 MacBook Air… what a slog!!! Surprisingly Ubuntu runs very smooth on it. I have been bothering all my friends for years about moving to Fedora (back then it was because I hated Unity) but now… I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but… Christ, it does run well! In fairness all my VMs are running DietPi (a slimmed version of Ubuntu) and coming back to the APT world feels like coming back home.\n
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      Thoughts?\n
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      I am not in the mood for Debian. I like the Mint approach but I am not a fan of slow rolling releases and also would like to keep myself as close as upstream as possible, the Debian version is the only one that seems reliable enough but, again, it is Debian, the packages are “old”. Pop Os and similar are two hops away from upstream and so I’d rather not.\n
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      Is Snap really **that** bad?\n
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          Well, I’d file this as innovation. Innovation is trying and failing. It’s an experiment. And I’m okay with this.\n
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      Long story short, I have a desktop with Fedora, lovely, fast, sleek and surprisingly reliable for a near rolling distro (it failed me only once back around Fedora 34 or something where it nuked Grub). Tried to install on a 2012 i7 MacBook Air… what a slog!!! Surprisingly Ubuntu runs very smooth on it. I have been bothering all my friends for years about moving to Fedora (back then it was because I hated Unity) but now… I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but… Christ, it does run well! In fairness all my VMs are running DietPi (a slimmed version of Ubuntu) and coming back to the APT world feels like coming back home.\n
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      On the other end forcing myself to be on Fedora allows me to stay on the DNF world that is compatible with Amazon Linux etc (which I use for work), it has updated packages, it is nice and clean…. Argh, don’t know how to decide!\n
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      Thoughts?\n
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      I am not in the mood for Debian. I like the Mint approach but I am not a fan of slow rolling releases and also would like to keep myself as close as upstream as possible, the Debian version is the only one that seems reliable enough but, again, it is Debian, the packages are “old”. Pop Os and similar are two hops away from upstream and so I’d rather not.\n
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      Is Snap really **that** bad?\n
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      Edit: thank you all for sharing your experience !
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          Ubuntu is nice. Apt/DEB works as they should. Some default apps, mostly browsers, are snaps now, but this does not bother you at all. You were getting them from your distro anyway.\n
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          Flatpak and AppImages work just fine if you need them.\n
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          The Ubuntu desktop (any flavour) just works. Others are different, but nothing is bad about Ubuntu.\n
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          Ubuntu is trying new things, proprietary to their ecosystem, e.g. Unity or snap. On the big picture, those are experiment. Ubuntu is still Linux.\n
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          > If it works for you then use it, however if you want the latest packages you’ll have to NOT use the LTS releases in which case be prepared to do a FULL REINSTALL every time a new version comes out.\n
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          You never need a full install. I haven’t done such a thing for a decade.
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    Well, I’d file this as innovation. Innovation is trying and failing. It’s an experiment. And I’m okay with this.\n
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    Is it wasteful to have KDE and Gnome? Why don’t they give up and merge with each other? Did we really need systemd? Or docker? And why Wayland when every single distro is on X and every single application is on X?\n
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    Maybe I’d like Debian more. After all I came from Debian to Ubuntu. But it’s not worth to make a fuzz.
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      Long story short, I have a desktop with Fedora, lovely, fast, sleek and surprisingly reliable for a near rolling distro (it failed me only once back around Fedora 34 or something where it nuked Grub). Tried to install on a 2012 i7 MacBook Air… what a slog!!! Surprisingly Ubuntu runs very smooth on it. I have been bothering all my friends for years about moving to Fedora (back then it was because I hated Unity) but now… I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but… Christ, it does run well! In fairness all my VMs are running DietPi (a slimmed version of Ubuntu) and coming back to the APT world feels like coming back home.\n
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    Well, I’d file this as innovation. Innovation is trying and failing. It’s an experiment. And I’m okay with this.\n
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    Is it wasteful to have KDE and Gnome? Why don’t they give up and merge with each other? Did we really need systemd? Or docker? And why Wayland when every single distro is on X and every single application is on X?\n
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      Long story short, I have a desktop with Fedora, lovely, fast, sleek and surprisingly reliable for a near rolling distro (it failed me only once back around Fedora 34 or something where it nuked Grub). Tried to install on a 2012 i7 MacBook Air… what a slog!!! Surprisingly Ubuntu runs very smooth on it. I have been bothering all my friends for years about moving to Fedora (back then it was because I hated Unity) but now… I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but… Christ, it does run well! In fairness all my VMs are running DietPi (a slimmed version of Ubuntu) and coming back to the APT world feels like coming back home.\n
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      Is Snap really **that** bad?\n
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    Well, I’d file this as innovation. Innovation is trying and failing. It’s an experiment. And I’m okay with this.\n
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    Is it wasteful to have KDE and Gnome? Why don’t they give up and merge with each other? Did we really need systemd? Or docker? And why Wayland when every single distro is on X and every single application is on X?\n
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    Ubuntu started as a Gnome-based distribution and it is was better than the competition on the desktop at the time. Or good enough. It got popular.\n
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    Personally, I wasn’t a big fan of Unity or Gnome 3, but it worked. I found snap totally weird and against how things should be on a Linux system. But snap updates (while still annoying) have solved problems with deb-based updates of browser (“Quit all running firefox or you’ll experience problems”).\n
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      Long story short, I have a desktop with Fedora, lovely, fast, sleek and surprisingly reliable for a near rolling distro (it failed me only once back around Fedora 34 or something where it nuked Grub). Tried to install on a 2012 i7 MacBook Air… what a slog!!! Surprisingly Ubuntu runs very smooth on it. I have been bothering all my friends for years about moving to Fedora (back then it was because I hated Unity) but now… I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but… Christ, it does run well! In fairness all my VMs are running DietPi (a slimmed version of Ubuntu) and coming back to the APT world feels like coming back home.\n
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      Thoughts?\n
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      I am not in the mood for Debian. I like the Mint approach but I am not a fan of slow rolling releases and also would like to keep myself as close as upstream as possible, the Debian version is the only one that seems reliable enough but, again, it is Debian, the packages are “old”. Pop Os and similar are two hops away from upstream and so I’d rather not.\n
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      Is Snap really **that** bad?\n
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      Edit: thank you all for sharing your experience !
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          Ubuntu is nice. Apt/DEB works as they should. Some default apps, mostly browsers, are snaps now, but this does not bother you at all. You were getting them from your distro anyway.\n
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          Flatpak and AppImages work just fine if you need them.\n
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          The Ubuntu desktop (any flavour) just works. Others are different, but nothing is bad about Ubuntu.\n
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          > If it works for you then use it, however if you want the latest packages you’ll have to NOT use the LTS releases in which case be prepared to do a FULL REINSTALL every time a new version comes out.\n
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          Well, I’d file this as innovation. Innovation is trying and failing. It’s an experiment. And I’m okay with this.\n
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      Long story short, I have a desktop with Fedora, lovely, fast, sleek and surprisingly reliable for a near rolling distro (it failed me only once back around Fedora 34 or something where it nuked Grub). Tried to install on a 2012 i7 MacBook Air… what a slog!!! Surprisingly Ubuntu runs very smooth on it. I have been bothering all my friends for years about moving to Fedora (back then it was because I hated Unity) but now… I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but… Christ, it does run well! In fairness all my VMs are running DietPi (a slimmed version of Ubuntu) and coming back to the APT world feels like coming back home.\n
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      On the other end forcing myself to be on Fedora allows me to stay on the DNF world that is compatible with Amazon Linux etc (which I use for work), it has updated packages, it is nice and clean…. Argh, don’t know how to decide!\n
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      Thoughts?\n
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      I am not in the mood for Debian. I like the Mint approach but I am not a fan of slow rolling releases and also would like to keep myself as close as upstream as possible, the Debian version is the only one that seems reliable enough but, again, it is Debian, the packages are “old”. Pop Os and similar are two hops away from upstream and so I’d rather not.\n
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      Is Snap really **that** bad?\n
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      Edit: thank you all for sharing your experience !
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          Flatpak and AppImages work just fine if you need them.\n
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          The Ubuntu desktop (any flavour) just works. Others are different, but nothing is bad about Ubuntu.\n
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          > If it works for you then use it, however if you want the latest packages you’ll have to NOT use the LTS releases in which case be prepared to do a FULL REINSTALL every time a new version comes out.\n
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          This is just wrong. You can update the LTS release to the next non-LTS release. You only have to unchecked “LTS only”. You can also wait for the next LTS release.\n
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          Well, I’d file this as innovation. Innovation is trying and failing. It’s an experiment. And I’m okay with this.\n
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          Well, I’d file this as innovation. Innovation is trying and failing. It’s an experiment. And I’m okay with this.\n
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          Is it wasteful to have KDE and Gnome? Why don’t they give up and merge with each other? Did we really need systemd? Or docker? And why Wayland when every single distro is on X and every single application is on X?\n
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        Yes, that’s my understanding. A normal user cannot do this. (And of course, an attacker shouldn’t not control a local user in the first place.)\n
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49 DENIED ROLE_USER 
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    Physical access is also a risk, but physical access trumps everything.
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"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
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            > There are several ways to exploit LogoFAIL. Remote attacks work by first exploiting an unpatched vulnerability in a browser, media player, or other app and using the administrative control gained to replace the legitimate logo image processed early in the boot process with an identical-looking one that exploits a parser flaw. The other way is to gain brief access to a vulnerable device while it’s unlocked and replace the legitimate image file with a malicious one.\n
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