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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
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      - [Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting](https://selfhosted.show)\n
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    What kind of attributes did you find relevant? I imagine the 19x codes…\n
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    Tried that and doesn’t seem to work. :(\n
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