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Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name

Security enabled

Stateless

Configuration

Key	Value
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context	main
entry_point	App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker	App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler	(none)
access_denied_url	(none)
authenticators	[`"two_factor" "remember_me" "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator" "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator" "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator" "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator" "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"`]

Listeners

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Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy


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      - Use for local headless gaming (with [bazzite](https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite)?)\n
      - At least as powerful as a Steam Deck\n
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      #### Phase 1 (gaming):\n
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      - Budget: $1000 (ideally below ~$800):\n
      - Use for local headless gaming (with [bazzite](https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite)?)\n
      - At least as powerful as a Steam Deck\n
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      - At least as powerful as a Steam Deck\n
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      \n
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      - At least as powerful as a Steam Deck\n
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          - Power supply: \n
              - Power efficient power supply that can handle a class 4080/4090 card.\n
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          - Storage: \n
              - Samsung 990 PRO NVMe M.2 SSD 1TB (~$100)\n
          - RAM: \n
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          - Case: \n
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      \n
      In case I missed any crucial information, let me know!
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          - Prefer Nvidia due to compatibility with SD.\n
      - Open for suggestion, since wanting a low power draw with a 4090 might sound contradictory.\n
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      ---\n
      \n
      In case I missed any crucial information, let me know!
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