Redirect 302 redirect from GET @entry_comment_create (3afef3)

GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/u/@Justas@sh.itjust.works

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
3.57 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.05 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2149
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2677 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2135 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2905 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1668 …}
  +slug: "Chicken-soup"
  +title: "Chicken soup"
  +url: "https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/2e2d1952-84f5-49db-a567-8b307bf59a5d.webp"
  +body: null
  +type: "link"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 215
  +favouriteCount: 338
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1728243969 {#2169
    date: 2024-10-06 21:46:09.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2966 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2973 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3003 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3010 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3040 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3047 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2148
      +user: App\Entity\User {#260 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2149 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2135 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        Biscuit\n
        \n
        It’s a great name.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 7
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1727593140 {#2152
        date: 2024-09-29 08:59:00.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2146 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2180 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2181 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2171 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2186 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2187 …}
      -id: 330608
      -bodyTs: "'biscuit':1 'great':5 'name':6"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://sh.itjust.works/comment/7884432"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705906626 {#2153
        date: 2024-01-22 07:57:06.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 330608
    }
  ]
  -id: 32246
  -titleTs: "'chicken':1 'soup':2"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1705961080
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://sh.itjust.works/post/13226496"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705874680 {#2744
    date: 2024-01-21 23:04:40.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2149
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2677 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2135 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2905 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1668 …}
  +slug: "Chicken-soup"
  +title: "Chicken soup"
  +url: "https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/2e2d1952-84f5-49db-a567-8b307bf59a5d.webp"
  +body: null
  +type: "link"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 215
  +favouriteCount: 338
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1728243969 {#2169
    date: 2024-10-06 21:46:09.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2966 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2973 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3003 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3010 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3040 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3047 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2148
      +user: App\Entity\User {#260 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2149 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2135 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        Biscuit\n
        \n
        It’s a great name.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 7
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1727593140 {#2152
        date: 2024-09-29 08:59:00.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2146 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2180 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2181 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2171 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2186 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2187 …}
      -id: 330608
      -bodyTs: "'biscuit':1 'great':5 'name':6"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://sh.itjust.works/comment/7884432"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705906626 {#2153
        date: 2024-01-22 07:57:06.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 330608
    }
  ]
  -id: 32246
  -titleTs: "'chicken':1 'soup':2"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1705961080
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://sh.itjust.works/post/13226496"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705874680 {#2744
    date: 2024-01-21 23:04:40.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2149
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2677 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2135 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2905 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1668 …}
  +slug: "Chicken-soup"
  +title: "Chicken soup"
  +url: "https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/2e2d1952-84f5-49db-a567-8b307bf59a5d.webp"
  +body: null
  +type: "link"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 215
  +favouriteCount: 338
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1728243969 {#2169
    date: 2024-10-06 21:46:09.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2966 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2973 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3003 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3010 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3040 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3047 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2148
      +user: App\Entity\User {#260 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2149 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2135 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        Biscuit\n
        \n
        It’s a great name.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 7
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1727593140 {#2152
        date: 2024-09-29 08:59:00.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2146 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2180 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2181 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2171 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2186 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2187 …}
      -id: 330608
      -bodyTs: "'biscuit':1 'great':5 'name':6"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://sh.itjust.works/comment/7884432"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705906626 {#2153
        date: 2024-01-22 07:57:06.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 330608
    }
  ]
  -id: 32246
  -titleTs: "'chicken':1 'soup':2"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1705961080
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://sh.itjust.works/post/13226496"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705874680 {#2744
    date: 2024-01-21 23:04:40.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2148
  +user: App\Entity\User {#260 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2149
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    +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2135 …}
    +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2905 …}
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1668 …}
    +slug: "Chicken-soup"
    +title: "Chicken soup"
    +url: "https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/2e2d1952-84f5-49db-a567-8b307bf59a5d.webp"
    +body: null
    +type: "link"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: true
    +commentCount: 215
    +favouriteCount: 338
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1728243969 {#2169
      date: 2024-10-06 21:46:09.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2966 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2973 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3003 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3010 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3040 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#3047 …}
    +children: [
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    ]
    -id: 32246
    -titleTs: "'chicken':1 'soup':2"
    -bodyTs: null
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1705961080
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://sh.itjust.works/post/13226496"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705874680 {#2744
      date: 2024-01-21 23:04:40.0 +01:00
    }
    +__isInitialized__: true
     …2
  }
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  +image: null
  +parent: null
  +root: null
  +body: """
    Biscuit\n
    \n
    It’s a great name.
    """
  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 7
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1727593140 {#2152
    date: 2024-09-29 08:59:00.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works"
  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2146 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2180 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2181 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2171 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2186 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2187 …}
  -id: 330608
  -bodyTs: "'biscuit':1 'great':5 'name':6"
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  +apId: "https://sh.itjust.works/comment/7884432"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705906626 {#2153
    date: 2024-01-22 07:57:06.0 +01:00
  }
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}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
7 DENIED edit
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2148
  +user: App\Entity\User {#260 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2149
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    +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2135 …}
    +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2905 …}
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1668 …}
    +slug: "Chicken-soup"
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    +body: null
    +type: "link"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: true
    +commentCount: 215
    +favouriteCount: 338
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1728243969 {#2169
      date: 2024-10-06 21:46:09.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
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        That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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        The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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        > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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        False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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        > Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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        Western leaders? Name them.\n
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        > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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        It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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        > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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        Because Russia attacked them.\n
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        > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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        If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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        Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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        You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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        > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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        Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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        > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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        Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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        > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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        Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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        Thanks.\n
        \n
        I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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        I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
        \n
        [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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        Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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        First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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        Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
        \n
        [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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        I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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        You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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        I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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        I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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        A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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        We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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        That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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        The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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        > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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        False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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        Western leaders? Name them.\n
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        > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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        It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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        > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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        Because Russia attacked them.\n
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        > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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        If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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        Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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        You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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        > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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        Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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        > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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        Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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        > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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        Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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        Thanks.\n
        \n
        I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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        I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
        \n
        [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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        Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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        First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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        Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
        \n
        [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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        I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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        You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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        I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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        I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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        A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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        We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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        That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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        The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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        As their propagandist said “We are Russian. We want the world. All of it if possible.”
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        > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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        False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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        > Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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        Western leaders? Name them.\n
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        > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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        It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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        > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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        Because Russia attacked them.\n
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        > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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        If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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        Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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        You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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        > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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        Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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        > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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        Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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        > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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        Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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        Thanks.\n
        \n
        I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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        I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
        \n
        [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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        Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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        First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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        Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
        \n
        [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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        I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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        You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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        I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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        I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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          A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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          As their propagandist said “We are Russian. We want the world. All of it if possible.”
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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          > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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        +body: "Weaker Russia means lower need for future military spending, and it is cheaper to give old weapons to Ukraine than to dispose of them locally."
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
          \n
          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
          \n
          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
          \n
          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
          \n
          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
          \n
          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
          \n
          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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          A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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          > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
          \n
          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
          \n
          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
          \n
          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
          \n
          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
          \n
          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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          A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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          > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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        +body: "Weaker Russia means lower need for future military spending, and it is cheaper to give old weapons to Ukraine than to dispose of them locally."
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
          \n
          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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          A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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          A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          > Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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          It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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          > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          > Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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          It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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          > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          > Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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          It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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          > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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    A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          > Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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          It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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          > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
          \n
          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
          \n
          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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    That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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    The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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    As their propagandist said “We are Russian. We want the world. All of it if possible.”
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          A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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          It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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          > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
          \n
          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
          \n
          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
          \n
          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
          \n
          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
          \n
          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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    That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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    The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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          A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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          It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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          > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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          Thanks.\n
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          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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    > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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    False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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    > Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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    Western leaders? Name them.\n
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    > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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    It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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    > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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    Because Russia attacked them.\n
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    > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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    If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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    Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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    You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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    > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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    False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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    Western leaders? Name them.\n
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    It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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    > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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    Because Russia attacked them.\n
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    > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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    If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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    Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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    You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
          \n
          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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    > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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    False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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    > Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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    Western leaders? Name them.\n
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    > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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    It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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    > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
    \n
    Because Russia attacked them.\n
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    > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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    If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
    \n
    Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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    You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          > Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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          It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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          > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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          A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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          It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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          > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
          \n
          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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          A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          > Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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          It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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          > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
          \n
          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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          A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          > Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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          It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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          > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
          \n
          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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    > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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    Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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    > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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    Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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    Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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          It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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          > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          Thanks.\n
          \n
          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
          \n
          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
          \n
          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
          \n
          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
          \n
          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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    > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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    Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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    > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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    Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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    Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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          A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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          > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          Thanks.\n
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          I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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          I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
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          [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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          Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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          First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
          \n
          Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
          \n
          [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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          I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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          You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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          I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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          I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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    > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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    Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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    Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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    Thanks.\n
    \n
    I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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    I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
    \n
    [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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    Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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    First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
    \n
    Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
    \n
    [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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    I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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    You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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    I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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    I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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          A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          The main problem with the west is that they believe they can make a deal with Russia that they are going to honor. The truth is that Russia honors the deals when it suits them and breaks them the moment it’s useful. Any negotiation is and will always be seen as weakness from the Russian side.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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    Thanks.\n
    \n
    I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
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    I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
    \n
    [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
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    Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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    First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
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    Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
    \n
    [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
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    I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
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    You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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    I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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    I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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          A war with better armed Ukraine would be shorter.\n
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          We could make Russian dominance in the region history, just like the myth of their military competence is history.
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          That would have been a peace deal that would have meant further hostilities down the line a few years later.\n
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          > The actual truth is that it’s NATO that’s been constantly expanding towards Russia. It’s also NATO that’s been invading and destroying countries since the end of USSR. Syria, Libya, and Yugoslavia being some prominent examples.\n
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          False equivalence. Former USSR countries that joined NATO, did so to protect themselves from future Russian aggression. Like the one we now see in Ukraine. Intervention in Yugoslavia was to prevent atrocities and Syria and Libya had their own problems and dictatorships, which Russia tried to prop up and the West wanted to end.\n
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          > Meanwhile, Russia tried to resolve this situation diplomatically since 2008 with Minsk agreements that western leaders now openly admit were a delaying tactic by the west.\n
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          Western leaders? Name them.\n
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          > The whole legal basis for the existence of state of Ukraine is predicated on Ukraine staying neutral and not joining military blocs.\n
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          It is in fact the opposite. No neutral country stays that way for long when Russia wants it’s territory.\n
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          > Ukraine broke the very basis of this agreement when it tried to join NATO.\n
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          Because Russia attacked them.\n
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          > Now, thanks to western “help”, Ukraine will lose far more territory than it would have if the deal was done last year, and it may even cease to exist as a state. I can’t wait for you to explain how this actually helps people of Ukraine.\n
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          If the West had not helped, there would be no Ukraine either. We would be condemning them to a decade of guerilla warfare and oppression. Emboldened by his victory, Putin would look further west.\n
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          Ukrainians now fight Russia, both sides are getting exhausted and it all depends on what help Ukraine gets. Your magical peace treaty would just mean Russia trying this again in 5 years or less.\n
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          You could have used the same arguments to make peace with the Nazis in 1941 and the world would only be worse for it.
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          > No, Ukraine has been engaged in atrocities in Donbas since 2014 as even western media reported at the time.\n
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          Russian propaganda talking point.\n
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          > If the west didn’t run a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government then there would’ve been no troubles in Ukraine. Period.\n
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          Euromaidan was not a coup.\n
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          > That’s complete and utter nonsense, and even western media now admits this.\n
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          Cite sources for the first point and military strategy analysts for the second.
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    Thanks.\n
    \n
    I avoid random X/Twitter links like the plague, since that platform is full of [Deceptive Imagery Persuasion](https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/too-much/meet-dip-the-new-7flRuIL5EOH/). Any video or photo can be taken out of context to mean the wrong thing. I could not find the CNN’s original video, maybe someday it will be easier to search for them.\n
    \n
    I have been using Google for long enough to know that it often shows us what we want to see, not that which is most likely to be correct. :)\n
    \n
    [Characterizing the Influence of Confirmation Bias on Web Search Behavior](https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.771948/full)[It’s not just you, Google Search really has gotten worse](https://mashable.com/article/google-search-low-quality-research)\n
    \n
    Now I see the foundations of your beliefs I can better understand your opinions. I still do not agree with them though, because I believe those foundations to be somewhere between flawed and ideology-driven.\n
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    First of all, Euromaidan was a coup, by it’s definition, but it was not instigated by the west, which I assumed was your opinion.\n
    \n
    Regarding Russian economic data you seem to be flaunting, Russia has made it hard for outside sources to verify any of it.\n
    \n
    [Pollution Reveals What Russian Statistics Obscure: Industrial Decline](https://archive.is/lN1NE)[Russian Economic Optimism Is Based on Suspect Data](https://archive.is/Kh1OW)\n
    \n
    I yet or bothered to translate the German or French links, but a lot of other articles I actually mostly agree with: Ukraine will struggle to achieve their objectives without western aid despite past successes.\n
    \n
    You seem to derive a lot of your opinions from mearsheimer.substack.com source but the sources the author uses to prove your points often come from rt.com which is like, the worst source for this discussion.\n
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    I understand that these Internet debates are not for changing minds of my opponents, but to show my points to people who are not yet decided.\n
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    I will, however, refrain from posting on lemmy.ml in the future, because I can see that you are a mod of several communities on this instance and your overall conduct in this post has been rather childish and disrespectful. I feel like mods should hold themselves to a higher standard.
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