Redirect 302 redirect from GET @entry_comment_create (66de9b)

GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/u/@fhqwgads@possumpat.io/active

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.34
Profiled on
Token
0dce7c

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 29.48 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.05 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1571
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2369 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1572 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2191 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2326 …}
  +slug: "The-Boost-android-client-for-Lemmy-is-displaying-these-dark"
  +title: "The Boost android client for Lemmy is displaying these dark pattern ads pretending to be system notifications. What security/privacy conscious Lemmy clients do you recommend?"
  +url: "https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/7278d2ee-f58d-4acb-828f-fda2a2521723.png"
  +body: null
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 204
  +favouriteCount: 494
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1729093402 {#2092
    date: 2024-10-16 17:43:22.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2328 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2323 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2325 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2333 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2300 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2340 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#1609
      +user: App\Entity\User {#262 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1571 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1572 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        Maybe I’m behind on my terms but does this count as a dark pattern?\n
        \n
        It was my understanding that dark patterns are a thing designed to use a service in a way that they wouldn’t normally intend to, like renew a subscription or leave privacy options to the benefit of the company instead of the user.\n
        \n
        This just seems like a scam, or at best highly deceptive advertising? Like, for it to be a dark pattern it would have to actually be able to send you to some android update system, but it almost certainly isn’t ever going to do that.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 17
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1722409127 {#1436
        date: 2024-07-31 08:58:47.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml"
        "@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml"
        "@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1588 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1584 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1580 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1583 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1586 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1679 …}
      -id: 304496
      -bodyTs: "'abl':85 'actual':83 'advertis':70 'almost':96 'android':91 'behind':4 'benefit':51 'best':67 'certain':97 'compani':54 'count':11 'dark':14,21,77 'decept':69 'design':26 'ever':100 'go':101 'high':68 'instead':55 'intend':39 'isn':98 'leav':46 'like':41,62,71 'm':3 'mayb':1 'normal':38 'option':48 'pattern':15,22,78 'privaci':47 'renew':42 'scam':64 'seem':61 'send':87 'servic':30 'subscript':44 'system':93 'term':7 'thing':25 'understand':19 'updat':92 'use':28 'user':58 'way':33 'would':80 'wouldn':36"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://possumpat.io/comment/3860679"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1722408242 {#1431
        date: 2024-07-31 08:44:02.0 +02:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705129236 {#1430
        date: 2024-01-13 08:00:36.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 304496
    }
  ]
  -id: 29566
  -titleTs: "'ad':12 'android':3 'boost':2 'client':4,22 'conscious':20 'dark':10 'display':8 'lemmi':6,21 'notif':17 'pattern':11 'pretend':13 'recommend':25 'security/privacy':19 'system':16"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1705196321
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/10470199"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705109921 {#2394
    date: 2024-01-13 02:38:41.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1571
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2369 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1572 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2191 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2326 …}
  +slug: "The-Boost-android-client-for-Lemmy-is-displaying-these-dark"
  +title: "The Boost android client for Lemmy is displaying these dark pattern ads pretending to be system notifications. What security/privacy conscious Lemmy clients do you recommend?"
  +url: "https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/7278d2ee-f58d-4acb-828f-fda2a2521723.png"
  +body: null
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 204
  +favouriteCount: 494
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1729093402 {#2092
    date: 2024-10-16 17:43:22.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2328 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2323 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2325 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2333 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2300 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2340 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#1609
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1571 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1572 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        Maybe I’m behind on my terms but does this count as a dark pattern?\n
        \n
        It was my understanding that dark patterns are a thing designed to use a service in a way that they wouldn’t normally intend to, like renew a subscription or leave privacy options to the benefit of the company instead of the user.\n
        \n
        This just seems like a scam, or at best highly deceptive advertising? Like, for it to be a dark pattern it would have to actually be able to send you to some android update system, but it almost certainly isn’t ever going to do that.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 17
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1722409127 {#1436
        date: 2024-07-31 08:58:47.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml"
        "@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml"
        "@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1588 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1584 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1580 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1583 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1586 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1679 …}
      -id: 304496
      -bodyTs: "'abl':85 'actual':83 'advertis':70 'almost':96 'android':91 'behind':4 'benefit':51 'best':67 'certain':97 'compani':54 'count':11 'dark':14,21,77 'decept':69 'design':26 'ever':100 'go':101 'high':68 'instead':55 'intend':39 'isn':98 'leav':46 'like':41,62,71 'm':3 'mayb':1 'normal':38 'option':48 'pattern':15,22,78 'privaci':47 'renew':42 'scam':64 'seem':61 'send':87 'servic':30 'subscript':44 'system':93 'term':7 'thing':25 'understand':19 'updat':92 'use':28 'user':58 'way':33 'would':80 'wouldn':36"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://possumpat.io/comment/3860679"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1722408242 {#1431
        date: 2024-07-31 08:44:02.0 +02:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705129236 {#1430
        date: 2024-01-13 08:00:36.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 304496
    }
  ]
  -id: 29566
  -titleTs: "'ad':12 'android':3 'boost':2 'client':4,22 'conscious':20 'dark':10 'display':8 'lemmi':6,21 'notif':17 'pattern':11 'pretend':13 'recommend':25 'security/privacy':19 'system':16"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1705196321
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/10470199"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705109921 {#2394
    date: 2024-01-13 02:38:41.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1571
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2369 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1572 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2191 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2326 …}
  +slug: "The-Boost-android-client-for-Lemmy-is-displaying-these-dark"
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  +url: "https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/7278d2ee-f58d-4acb-828f-fda2a2521723.png"
  +body: null
  +type: "image"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 204
  +favouriteCount: 494
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1729093402 {#2092
    date: 2024-10-16 17:43:22.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2328 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2323 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2325 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2333 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2300 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2340 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#1609
      +user: App\Entity\User {#262 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1571 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1572 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        Maybe I’m behind on my terms but does this count as a dark pattern?\n
        \n
        It was my understanding that dark patterns are a thing designed to use a service in a way that they wouldn’t normally intend to, like renew a subscription or leave privacy options to the benefit of the company instead of the user.\n
        \n
        This just seems like a scam, or at best highly deceptive advertising? Like, for it to be a dark pattern it would have to actually be able to send you to some android update system, but it almost certainly isn’t ever going to do that.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 17
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1722409127 {#1436
        date: 2024-07-31 08:58:47.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml"
        "@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml"
        "@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1588 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1584 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1580 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1583 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1586 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1679 …}
      -id: 304496
      -bodyTs: "'abl':85 'actual':83 'advertis':70 'almost':96 'android':91 'behind':4 'benefit':51 'best':67 'certain':97 'compani':54 'count':11 'dark':14,21,77 'decept':69 'design':26 'ever':100 'go':101 'high':68 'instead':55 'intend':39 'isn':98 'leav':46 'like':41,62,71 'm':3 'mayb':1 'normal':38 'option':48 'pattern':15,22,78 'privaci':47 'renew':42 'scam':64 'seem':61 'send':87 'servic':30 'subscript':44 'system':93 'term':7 'thing':25 'understand':19 'updat':92 'use':28 'user':58 'way':33 'would':80 'wouldn':36"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://possumpat.io/comment/3860679"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1722408242 {#1431
        date: 2024-07-31 08:44:02.0 +02:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705129236 {#1430
        date: 2024-01-13 08:00:36.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 304496
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  ]
  -id: 29566
  -titleTs: "'ad':12 'android':3 'boost':2 'client':4,22 'conscious':20 'dark':10 'display':8 'lemmi':6,21 'notif':17 'pattern':11 'pretend':13 'recommend':25 'security/privacy':19 'system':16"
  -bodyTs: null
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1705196321
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/post/10470199"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1705109921 {#2394
    date: 2024-01-13 02:38:41.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate 
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  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1571
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    +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1572 …}
    +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2191 …}
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2326 …}
    +slug: "The-Boost-android-client-for-Lemmy-is-displaying-these-dark"
    +title: "The Boost android client for Lemmy is displaying these dark pattern ads pretending to be system notifications. What security/privacy conscious Lemmy clients do you recommend?"
    +url: "https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/7278d2ee-f58d-4acb-828f-fda2a2521723.png"
    +body: null
    +type: "image"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: true
    +commentCount: 204
    +favouriteCount: 494
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
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          If you already have a camera with HDMI output sitting around a capture card can be a great way to get really good image quality for not much money. If 720p is enough I’ve actually had really good success with these incredibly cheap ones: [youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U](https://youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U) - I’ve even seen them at places like Walmart and Target under the Vivitar brand so they’re readily available.\n
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        > > capture card\n
        > \n
        > Hmm I need to do some research. I’m not really sure what these are for or what they do, but I’ll look into it, thanks.\n
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        Sorry, probably should have explained. If you have a camera that has an HDMI or other video output they basically convert it to a USB camera.\n
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        Most of the models they put out don’t have autofocus at all, you have to physically turn it to focus. Depending on exactly how your setup works that may or may not be viable - overhead cam like for playing magic probably doesn’t move much, but for video conferences where you shift in your chair it might be weird if the room is a bit darker.
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    Hi, I’m on Windows 10 at home and Windows 11 at work. I’m going to migrate to Linux for my next PC (might eventually do it on this one, though I’ve currently done so many tweaks that I intend to keep this for gaming for now). Our two laptops and mini-PC already run Linux Mint, but I digress… (I just don’t want anyone to think I’m totally unaware of the problems with Windows and Microsoft.)\n
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    I’ve saved up a bit, and I’d like to try again with a different camera, one that doesn’t push its proprietary software on me. I was considering Logitech, but iirc Logi’s newer models *also do the same thing.* Or is this wrong?\n
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    Anyway, I’d be so thankful if you could help. This community helped me so much before when I needed a modem and router to escape the clutches of my IP, so I thought maybe someone would have some advice.
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          If you already have a camera with HDMI output sitting around a capture card can be a great way to get really good image quality for not much money. If 720p is enough I’ve actually had really good success with these incredibly cheap ones: [youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U](https://youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U) - I’ve even seen them at places like Walmart and Target under the Vivitar brand so they’re readily available.\n
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          If you don’t look around locally for used Sony cameras. Because 1080p is only 2 mega pixels and many of the nicer old Sony cameras have clean HDMI output you can get kind of amazing image quality for very cheap. Some newer model mirrorless cameras got updates to run as a webcam directly off the USB port but they’re likely out of your budget and some require software. (Edit: make sure you check if the model you’re looking at has clean HDMI out - some do, some don’t, and some do with some tweaking. This site has a decent bit probably incomplete list: [wasge.es/clean_output/](http://wasge.es/clean_output/) )\n
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          If you want a more traditional webcam and need autofocus something like the Logitech c920 family is probably your best bet but the constant revisions may have added a software install. Most cameras are including software since realistically they’re all basically the same and most of the “features” are added in the software.\n
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          If you don’t need autofocus, there are a number of companies taking Sony “security camera” sensors and slapping them in boxes with screw mount lenses. ELP and Mokose are examples but there are others. With enough light these generally look pretty dang good. If you pick one up and decide later to upgrade, it can probably live mounted up high just for playing magic, especially since there are a few 4k ones that will probably let you read the tiniest of text on the cards.
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        > > capture card\n
        > \n
        > Hmm I need to do some research. I’m not really sure what these are for or what they do, but I’ll look into it, thanks.\n
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        Sorry, probably should have explained. If you have a camera that has an HDMI or other video output they basically convert it to a USB camera.\n
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        > I’ll look into this as well. Seems like people have had focus issues though, based on reviews I saw.\n
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        Most of the models they put out don’t have autofocus at all, you have to physically turn it to focus. Depending on exactly how your setup works that may or may not be viable - overhead cam like for playing magic probably doesn’t move much, but for video conferences where you shift in your chair it might be weird if the room is a bit darker.
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    Hi, I’m on Windows 10 at home and Windows 11 at work. I’m going to migrate to Linux for my next PC (might eventually do it on this one, though I’ve currently done so many tweaks that I intend to keep this for gaming for now). Our two laptops and mini-PC already run Linux Mint, but I digress… (I just don’t want anyone to think I’m totally unaware of the problems with Windows and Microsoft.)\n
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    - Playing Magic the Gathering via Spelltable (so it needs to be able to be positioned facing my playmat and good enough quality to detect the cards)\n
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    At home, I was using a similar Logitech camera, but a year ago I decided to upgrade and purchased the Razer Kiyo Pro. *What a mistake!* Every time this camera gets plugged in, it prompts me to install Razer Synapse. It even puts the installer directly on my hard drive without my permission!\n
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    I’ve saved up a bit, and I’d like to try again with a different camera, one that doesn’t push its proprietary software on me. I was considering Logitech, but iirc Logi’s newer models *also do the same thing.* Or is this wrong?\n
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    **Either way, I’d be so grateful if someone could recommend a reasonably high quality budget camera in the ~$100 range. I *could* go up to maybe $125, but after that it would start to really hurt.**\n
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    I’ve done a lot of searching myself, but it turns out it’s pretty hard to find a camera that doesn’t either require or constantly push its proprietary software, and apparently some people [checks notes] *like the proprietary software being shoved at them???*\n
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    Anyway, I’d be so thankful if you could help. This community helped me so much before when I needed a modem and router to escape the clutches of my IP, so I thought maybe someone would have some advice.
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          If you already have a camera with HDMI output sitting around a capture card can be a great way to get really good image quality for not much money. If 720p is enough I’ve actually had really good success with these incredibly cheap ones: [youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U](https://youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U) - I’ve even seen them at places like Walmart and Target under the Vivitar brand so they’re readily available.\n
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        > > capture card\n
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        > Hmm I need to do some research. I’m not really sure what these are for or what they do, but I’ll look into it, thanks.\n
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        Sorry, probably should have explained. If you have a camera that has an HDMI or other video output they basically convert it to a USB camera.\n
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        > I’ll look into this as well. Seems like people have had focus issues though, based on reviews I saw.\n
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        Most of the models they put out don’t have autofocus at all, you have to physically turn it to focus. Depending on exactly how your setup works that may or may not be viable - overhead cam like for playing magic probably doesn’t move much, but for video conferences where you shift in your chair it might be weird if the room is a bit darker.
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      Hi, I’m on Windows 10 at home and Windows 11 at work. I’m going to migrate to Linux for my next PC (might eventually do it on this one, though I’ve currently done so many tweaks that I intend to keep this for gaming for now). Our two laptops and mini-PC already run Linux Mint, but I digress… (I just don’t want anyone to think I’m totally unaware of the problems with Windows and Microsoft.)\n
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      - Playing Magic the Gathering via Spelltable (so it needs to be able to be positioned facing my playmat and good enough quality to detect the cards)\n
      - Video call with family and friends\n
      - Occasional use for presenting professional webinars (during occasions when I have to work from home)\n
      - Occasionally pre-recording work-related content that will be publicly viewable\n
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      At work, I use a Logitech camera that my employer provided me with OBS software. It’s an older model, but I’m not sure of model number or anything off the top of my head. It’s not the best, and I’d like something a bit better at home.\n
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      At home, I was using a similar Logitech camera, but a year ago I decided to upgrade and purchased the Razer Kiyo Pro. *What a mistake!* Every time this camera gets plugged in, it prompts me to install Razer Synapse. It even puts the installer directly on my hard drive without my permission!\n
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      I’ve saved up a bit, and I’d like to try again with a different camera, one that doesn’t push its proprietary software on me. I was considering Logitech, but iirc Logi’s newer models *also do the same thing.* Or is this wrong?\n
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      **Either way, I’d be so grateful if someone could recommend a reasonably high quality budget camera in the ~$100 range. I *could* go up to maybe $125, but after that it would start to really hurt.**\n
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      I’ve done a lot of searching myself, but it turns out it’s pretty hard to find a camera that doesn’t either require or constantly push its proprietary software, and apparently some people [checks notes] *like the proprietary software being shoved at them???*\n
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            If you already have a camera with HDMI output sitting around a capture card can be a great way to get really good image quality for not much money. If 720p is enough I’ve actually had really good success with these incredibly cheap ones: [youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U](https://youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U) - I’ve even seen them at places like Walmart and Target under the Vivitar brand so they’re readily available.\n
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    > > capture card\n
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    > Hmm I need to do some research. I’m not really sure what these are for or what they do, but I’ll look into it, thanks.\n
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    Sorry, probably should have explained. If you have a camera that has an HDMI or other video output they basically convert it to a USB camera.\n
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    Most of the models they put out don’t have autofocus at all, you have to physically turn it to focus. Depending on exactly how your setup works that may or may not be viable - overhead cam like for playing magic probably doesn’t move much, but for video conferences where you shift in your chair it might be weird if the room is a bit darker.
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      Hi, I’m on Windows 10 at home and Windows 11 at work. I’m going to migrate to Linux for my next PC (might eventually do it on this one, though I’ve currently done so many tweaks that I intend to keep this for gaming for now). Our two laptops and mini-PC already run Linux Mint, but I digress… (I just don’t want anyone to think I’m totally unaware of the problems with Windows and Microsoft.)\n
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      - Playing Magic the Gathering via Spelltable (so it needs to be able to be positioned facing my playmat and good enough quality to detect the cards)\n
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      At work, I use a Logitech camera that my employer provided me with OBS software. It’s an older model, but I’m not sure of model number or anything off the top of my head. It’s not the best, and I’d like something a bit better at home.\n
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      At home, I was using a similar Logitech camera, but a year ago I decided to upgrade and purchased the Razer Kiyo Pro. *What a mistake!* Every time this camera gets plugged in, it prompts me to install Razer Synapse. It even puts the installer directly on my hard drive without my permission!\n
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      I’ve saved up a bit, and I’d like to try again with a different camera, one that doesn’t push its proprietary software on me. I was considering Logitech, but iirc Logi’s newer models *also do the same thing.* Or is this wrong?\n
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      **Either way, I’d be so grateful if someone could recommend a reasonably high quality budget camera in the ~$100 range. I *could* go up to maybe $125, but after that it would start to really hurt.**\n
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      I’ve done a lot of searching myself, but it turns out it’s pretty hard to find a camera that doesn’t either require or constantly push its proprietary software, and apparently some people [checks notes] *like the proprietary software being shoved at them???*\n
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      Anyway, I’d be so thankful if you could help. This community helped me so much before when I needed a modem and router to escape the clutches of my IP, so I thought maybe someone would have some advice.
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            If you already have a camera with HDMI output sitting around a capture card can be a great way to get really good image quality for not much money. If 720p is enough I’ve actually had really good success with these incredibly cheap ones: [youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U](https://youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U) - I’ve even seen them at places like Walmart and Target under the Vivitar brand so they’re readily available.\n
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    > > capture card\n
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    > Hmm I need to do some research. I’m not really sure what these are for or what they do, but I’ll look into it, thanks.\n
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    Sorry, probably should have explained. If you have a camera that has an HDMI or other video output they basically convert it to a USB camera.\n
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      Hi, I’m on Windows 10 at home and Windows 11 at work. I’m going to migrate to Linux for my next PC (might eventually do it on this one, though I’ve currently done so many tweaks that I intend to keep this for gaming for now). Our two laptops and mini-PC already run Linux Mint, but I digress… (I just don’t want anyone to think I’m totally unaware of the problems with Windows and Microsoft.)\n
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      - Playing Magic the Gathering via Spelltable (so it needs to be able to be positioned facing my playmat and good enough quality to detect the cards)\n
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            If you already have a camera with HDMI output sitting around a capture card can be a great way to get really good image quality for not much money. If 720p is enough I’ve actually had really good success with these incredibly cheap ones: [youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U](https://youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U) - I’ve even seen them at places like Walmart and Target under the Vivitar brand so they’re readily available.\n
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    > > capture card\n
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    > Hmm I need to do some research. I’m not really sure what these are for or what they do, but I’ll look into it, thanks.\n
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            If you already have a camera with HDMI output sitting around a capture card can be a great way to get really good image quality for not much money. If 720p is enough I’ve actually had really good success with these incredibly cheap ones: [youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U](https://youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U) - I’ve even seen them at places like Walmart and Target under the Vivitar brand so they’re readily available.\n
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          > > capture card\n
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      Hi, I’m on Windows 10 at home and Windows 11 at work. I’m going to migrate to Linux for my next PC (might eventually do it on this one, though I’ve currently done so many tweaks that I intend to keep this for gaming for now). Our two laptops and mini-PC already run Linux Mint, but I digress… (I just don’t want anyone to think I’m totally unaware of the problems with Windows and Microsoft.)\n
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      - Playing Magic the Gathering via Spelltable (so it needs to be able to be positioned facing my playmat and good enough quality to detect the cards)\n
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      At home, I was using a similar Logitech camera, but a year ago I decided to upgrade and purchased the Razer Kiyo Pro. *What a mistake!* Every time this camera gets plugged in, it prompts me to install Razer Synapse. It even puts the installer directly on my hard drive without my permission!\n
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            If you already have a camera with HDMI output sitting around a capture card can be a great way to get really good image quality for not much money. If 720p is enough I’ve actually had really good success with these incredibly cheap ones: [youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U](https://youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U) - I’ve even seen them at places like Walmart and Target under the Vivitar brand so they’re readily available.\n
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          > > capture card\n
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          > Hmm I need to do some research. I’m not really sure what these are for or what they do, but I’ll look into it, thanks.\n
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          Sorry, probably should have explained. If you have a camera that has an HDMI or other video output they basically convert it to a USB camera.\n
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          > I’ll look into this as well. Seems like people have had focus issues though, based on reviews I saw.\n
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      Hi, I’m on Windows 10 at home and Windows 11 at work. I’m going to migrate to Linux for my next PC (might eventually do it on this one, though I’ve currently done so many tweaks that I intend to keep this for gaming for now). Our two laptops and mini-PC already run Linux Mint, but I digress… (I just don’t want anyone to think I’m totally unaware of the problems with Windows and Microsoft.)\n
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            If you don’t need autofocus, there are a number of companies taking Sony “security camera” sensors and slapping them in boxes with screw mount lenses. ELP and Mokose are examples but there are others. With enough light these generally look pretty dang good. If you pick one up and decide later to upgrade, it can probably live mounted up high just for playing magic, especially since there are a few 4k ones that will probably let you read the tiniest of text on the cards.
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    If you don’t look around locally for used Sony cameras. Because 1080p is only 2 mega pixels and many of the nicer old Sony cameras have clean HDMI output you can get kind of amazing image quality for very cheap. Some newer model mirrorless cameras got updates to run as a webcam directly off the USB port but they’re likely out of your budget and some require software. (Edit: make sure you check if the model you’re looking at has clean HDMI out - some do, some don’t, and some do with some tweaking. This site has a decent bit probably incomplete list: [wasge.es/clean_output/](http://wasge.es/clean_output/) )\n
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    If you don’t need autofocus, there are a number of companies taking Sony “security camera” sensors and slapping them in boxes with screw mount lenses. ELP and Mokose are examples but there are others. With enough light these generally look pretty dang good. If you pick one up and decide later to upgrade, it can probably live mounted up high just for playing magic, especially since there are a few 4k ones that will probably let you read the tiniest of text on the cards.
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      Hi, I’m on Windows 10 at home and Windows 11 at work. I’m going to migrate to Linux for my next PC (might eventually do it on this one, though I’ve currently done so many tweaks that I intend to keep this for gaming for now). Our two laptops and mini-PC already run Linux Mint, but I digress… (I just don’t want anyone to think I’m totally unaware of the problems with Windows and Microsoft.)\n
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      - Playing Magic the Gathering via Spelltable (so it needs to be able to be positioned facing my playmat and good enough quality to detect the cards)\n
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          > > capture card\n
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          > Hmm I need to do some research. I’m not really sure what these are for or what they do, but I’ll look into it, thanks.\n
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          Sorry, probably should have explained. If you have a camera that has an HDMI or other video output they basically convert it to a USB camera.\n
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          > I’ll look into this as well. Seems like people have had focus issues though, based on reviews I saw.\n
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          Most of the models they put out don’t have autofocus at all, you have to physically turn it to focus. Depending on exactly how your setup works that may or may not be viable - overhead cam like for playing magic probably doesn’t move much, but for video conferences where you shift in your chair it might be weird if the room is a bit darker.
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    If you don’t look around locally for used Sony cameras. Because 1080p is only 2 mega pixels and many of the nicer old Sony cameras have clean HDMI output you can get kind of amazing image quality for very cheap. Some newer model mirrorless cameras got updates to run as a webcam directly off the USB port but they’re likely out of your budget and some require software. (Edit: make sure you check if the model you’re looking at has clean HDMI out - some do, some don’t, and some do with some tweaking. This site has a decent bit probably incomplete list: [wasge.es/clean_output/](http://wasge.es/clean_output/) )\n
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    If you want a more traditional webcam and need autofocus something like the Logitech c920 family is probably your best bet but the constant revisions may have added a software install. Most cameras are including software since realistically they’re all basically the same and most of the “features” are added in the software.\n
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      Hi, I’m on Windows 10 at home and Windows 11 at work. I’m going to migrate to Linux for my next PC (might eventually do it on this one, though I’ve currently done so many tweaks that I intend to keep this for gaming for now). Our two laptops and mini-PC already run Linux Mint, but I digress… (I just don’t want anyone to think I’m totally unaware of the problems with Windows and Microsoft.)\n
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      - Playing Magic the Gathering via Spelltable (so it needs to be able to be positioned facing my playmat and good enough quality to detect the cards)\n
      - Video call with family and friends\n
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      - Use with OBS virtual camera\n
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      At work, I use a Logitech camera that my employer provided me with OBS software. It’s an older model, but I’m not sure of model number or anything off the top of my head. It’s not the best, and I’d like something a bit better at home.\n
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      At home, I was using a similar Logitech camera, but a year ago I decided to upgrade and purchased the Razer Kiyo Pro. *What a mistake!* Every time this camera gets plugged in, it prompts me to install Razer Synapse. It even puts the installer directly on my hard drive without my permission!\n
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      I’ve saved up a bit, and I’d like to try again with a different camera, one that doesn’t push its proprietary software on me. I was considering Logitech, but iirc Logi’s newer models *also do the same thing.* Or is this wrong?\n
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      **Either way, I’d be so grateful if someone could recommend a reasonably high quality budget camera in the ~$100 range. I *could* go up to maybe $125, but after that it would start to really hurt.**\n
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      I’ve done a lot of searching myself, but it turns out it’s pretty hard to find a camera that doesn’t either require or constantly push its proprietary software, and apparently some people [checks notes] *like the proprietary software being shoved at them???*\n
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      Anyway, I’d be so thankful if you could help. This community helped me so much before when I needed a modem and router to escape the clutches of my IP, so I thought maybe someone would have some advice.
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          > > capture card\n
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          > Hmm I need to do some research. I’m not really sure what these are for or what they do, but I’ll look into it, thanks.\n
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          Sorry, probably should have explained. If you have a camera that has an HDMI or other video output they basically convert it to a USB camera.\n
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          > I’ll look into this as well. Seems like people have had focus issues though, based on reviews I saw.\n
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          Most of the models they put out don’t have autofocus at all, you have to physically turn it to focus. Depending on exactly how your setup works that may or may not be viable - overhead cam like for playing magic probably doesn’t move much, but for video conferences where you shift in your chair it might be weird if the room is a bit darker.
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    If you already have a camera with HDMI output sitting around a capture card can be a great way to get really good image quality for not much money. If 720p is enough I’ve actually had really good success with these incredibly cheap ones: [youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U](https://youtu.be/daS5RHVAl2U) - I’ve even seen them at places like Walmart and Target under the Vivitar brand so they’re readily available.\n
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    If you don’t look around locally for used Sony cameras. Because 1080p is only 2 mega pixels and many of the nicer old Sony cameras have clean HDMI output you can get kind of amazing image quality for very cheap. Some newer model mirrorless cameras got updates to run as a webcam directly off the USB port but they’re likely out of your budget and some require software. (Edit: make sure you check if the model you’re looking at has clean HDMI out - some do, some don’t, and some do with some tweaking. This site has a decent bit probably incomplete list: [wasge.es/clean_output/](http://wasge.es/clean_output/) )\n
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    If you want a more traditional webcam and need autofocus something like the Logitech c920 family is probably your best bet but the constant revisions may have added a software install. Most cameras are including software since realistically they’re all basically the same and most of the “features” are added in the software.\n
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    If you don’t need autofocus, there are a number of companies taking Sony “security camera” sensors and slapping them in boxes with screw mount lenses. ELP and Mokose are examples but there are others. With enough light these generally look pretty dang good. If you pick one up and decide later to upgrade, it can probably live mounted up high just for playing magic, especially since there are a few 4k ones that will probably let you read the tiniest of text on the cards.
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