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IP
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Security

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Firewall

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
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    2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
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    4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
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    They have resolved this exact problem. There is an “experimental” cli tool that fixes a lot of your complaints about nix-env, nix-channel, etc. Itcs wrapped together with “flakes”. This newer feature is a little different, and working with or without flakes segments the community AND the types of articles about nix, like this one.\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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    They have resolved this exact problem. There is an “experimental” cli tool that fixes a lot of your complaints about nix-env, nix-channel, etc. Itcs wrapped together with “flakes”. This newer feature is a little different, and working with or without flakes segments the community AND the types of articles about nix, like this one.\n
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    They have resolved this exact problem. There is an “experimental” cli tool that fixes a lot of your complaints about nix-env, nix-channel, etc. Itcs wrapped together with “flakes”. This newer feature is a little different, and working with or without flakes segments the community AND the types of articles about nix, like this one.\n
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      They have resolved this exact problem. There is an “experimental” cli tool that fixes a lot of your complaints about nix-env, nix-channel, etc. Itcs wrapped together with “flakes”. This newer feature is a little different, and working with or without flakes segments the community AND the types of articles about nix, like this one.\n
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      As far as I know though, nixos related thing still have a bizarre set of commands, and even with flakes “nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade” is still how you switch configs.\n
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      And as far as installation goes, using nix-env -iA really is a bad practice. Thats installing something ad hoc like you would in any other package manager. That defeats the point of nixos, where your configuration file explicitly defines all the packages you need installed, and nothing else. Nix will remove any packages you didnt specify.
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    Oh that’s good that they are addressing those issues with a new command. Hopefully it gets into stable soon.\n
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    Might be that `nix-env -iA` is bad practice! I’m strictly talking about ux design here and `nix-env -iA` is being recommend by blogs and nix themselves. (Nixpkgs tells you how to install using `nix-env -iA`)\n
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    A new user isn’t going to know what bad practice is.
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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        What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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        The different ways of installing packages. Either through editing the configuration.nix or running a command. The weird inconsistency of nix commands. `nix-env -iA` to install and `nix-env --uninstall` to uninstall. Then updating uses `nix-channel --update` but upgrade uses `nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade`. All this to use the package manager. Also haven’t even mentioned flakes or home manager.\n
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        It’s a cool OS, but the UX really needs work imo.\n
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        It’s okay to have a complicated ui. Especially if your target audience are tech-savvy. But even tech-savvy people have to start as new users. A tech-savvy new user isn’t going to know what the best practices are. Being able to anticipate the steps for installing a package is important for ux. If the commands for installing packages isn’t cohesive/intuitive, then the user has to spend more time looking for guides and learning how to use the software.\n
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        People also mentioned a new command in the works. This is great! However, these current commands are being recommended through blogs and nix. New users won’t know about this new command.
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      They have resolved this exact problem. There is an “experimental” cli tool that fixes a lot of your complaints about nix-env, nix-channel, etc. Itcs wrapped together with “flakes”. This newer feature is a little different, and working with or without flakes segments the community AND the types of articles about nix, like this one.\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
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        What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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        The different ways of installing packages. Either through editing the configuration.nix or running a command. The weird inconsistency of nix commands. `nix-env -iA` to install and `nix-env --uninstall` to uninstall. Then updating uses `nix-channel --update` but upgrade uses `nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade`. All this to use the package manager. Also haven’t even mentioned flakes or home manager.\n
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        It’s a cool OS, but the UX really needs work imo.\n
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        It’s okay to have a complicated ui. Especially if your target audience are tech-savvy. But even tech-savvy people have to start as new users. A tech-savvy new user isn’t going to know what the best practices are. Being able to anticipate the steps for installing a package is important for ux. If the commands for installing packages isn’t cohesive/intuitive, then the user has to spend more time looking for guides and learning how to use the software.\n
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        People also mentioned a new command in the works. This is great! However, these current commands are being recommended through blogs and nix. New users won’t know about this new command.
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      They have resolved this exact problem. There is an “experimental” cli tool that fixes a lot of your complaints about nix-env, nix-channel, etc. Itcs wrapped together with “flakes”. This newer feature is a little different, and working with or without flakes segments the community AND the types of articles about nix, like this one.\n
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      As far as I know though, nixos related thing still have a bizarre set of commands, and even with flakes “nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade” is still how you switch configs.\n
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      And as far as installation goes, using nix-env -iA really is a bad practice. Thats installing something ad hoc like you would in any other package manager. That defeats the point of nixos, where your configuration file explicitly defines all the packages you need installed, and nothing else. Nix will remove any packages you didnt specify.
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    Oh that’s good that they are addressing those issues with a new command. Hopefully it gets into stable soon.\n
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    Might be that `nix-env -iA` is bad practice! I’m strictly talking about ux design here and `nix-env -iA` is being recommend by blogs and nix themselves. (Nixpkgs tells you how to install using `nix-env -iA`)\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
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      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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          What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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          It’s a cool OS, but the UX really needs work imo.\n
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          People also mentioned a new command in the works. This is great! However, these current commands are being recommended through blogs and nix. New users won’t know about this new command.
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        They have resolved this exact problem. There is an “experimental” cli tool that fixes a lot of your complaints about nix-env, nix-channel, etc. Itcs wrapped together with “flakes”. This newer feature is a little different, and working with or without flakes segments the community AND the types of articles about nix, like this one.\n
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        As far as I know though, nixos related thing still have a bizarre set of commands, and even with flakes “nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade” is still how you switch configs.\n
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        And as far as installation goes, using nix-env -iA really is a bad practice. Thats installing something ad hoc like you would in any other package manager. That defeats the point of nixos, where your configuration file explicitly defines all the packages you need installed, and nothing else. Nix will remove any packages you didnt specify.
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      Oh that’s good that they are addressing those issues with a new command. Hopefully it gets into stable soon.\n
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      Might be that `nix-env -iA` is bad practice! I’m strictly talking about ux design here and `nix-env -iA` is being recommend by blogs and nix themselves. (Nixpkgs tells you how to install using `nix-env -iA`)\n
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          What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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          The different ways of installing packages. Either through editing the configuration.nix or running a command. The weird inconsistency of nix commands. `nix-env -iA` to install and `nix-env --uninstall` to uninstall. Then updating uses `nix-channel --update` but upgrade uses `nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade`. All this to use the package manager. Also haven’t even mentioned flakes or home manager.\n
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          People also mentioned a new command in the works. This is great! However, these current commands are being recommended through blogs and nix. New users won’t know about this new command.
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        They have resolved this exact problem. There is an “experimental” cli tool that fixes a lot of your complaints about nix-env, nix-channel, etc. Itcs wrapped together with “flakes”. This newer feature is a little different, and working with or without flakes segments the community AND the types of articles about nix, like this one.\n
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        As far as I know though, nixos related thing still have a bizarre set of commands, and even with flakes “nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade” is still how you switch configs.\n
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        And as far as installation goes, using nix-env -iA really is a bad practice. Thats installing something ad hoc like you would in any other package manager. That defeats the point of nixos, where your configuration file explicitly defines all the packages you need installed, and nothing else. Nix will remove any packages you didnt specify.
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      Oh that’s good that they are addressing those issues with a new command. Hopefully it gets into stable soon.\n
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      Might be that `nix-env -iA` is bad practice! I’m strictly talking about ux design here and `nix-env -iA` is being recommend by blogs and nix themselves. (Nixpkgs tells you how to install using `nix-env -iA`)\n
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      A new user isn’t going to know what bad practice is.
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
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      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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        They have resolved this exact problem. There is an “experimental” cli tool that fixes a lot of your complaints about nix-env, nix-channel, etc. Itcs wrapped together with “flakes”. This newer feature is a little different, and working with or without flakes segments the community AND the types of articles about nix, like this one.\n
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        As far as I know though, nixos related thing still have a bizarre set of commands, and even with flakes “nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade” is still how you switch configs.\n
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        And as far as installation goes, using nix-env -iA really is a bad practice. Thats installing something ad hoc like you would in any other package manager. That defeats the point of nixos, where your configuration file explicitly defines all the packages you need installed, and nothing else. Nix will remove any packages you didnt specify.
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      Oh that’s good that they are addressing those issues with a new command. Hopefully it gets into stable soon.\n
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      Might be that `nix-env -iA` is bad practice! I’m strictly talking about ux design here and `nix-env -iA` is being recommend by blogs and nix themselves. (Nixpkgs tells you how to install using `nix-env -iA`)\n
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      A new user isn’t going to know what bad practice is.
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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        What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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        The different ways of installing packages. Either through editing the configuration.nix or running a command. The weird inconsistency of nix commands. `nix-env -iA` to install and `nix-env --uninstall` to uninstall. Then updating uses `nix-channel --update` but upgrade uses `nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade`. All this to use the package manager. Also haven’t even mentioned flakes or home manager.\n
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        It’s a cool OS, but the UX really needs work imo.\n
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        It’s okay to have a complicated ui. Especially if your target audience are tech-savvy. But even tech-savvy people have to start as new users. A tech-savvy new user isn’t going to know what the best practices are. Being able to anticipate the steps for installing a package is important for ux. If the commands for installing packages isn’t cohesive/intuitive, then the user has to spend more time looking for guides and learning how to use the software.\n
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        People also mentioned a new command in the works. This is great! However, these current commands are being recommended through blogs and nix. New users won’t know about this new command.
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      They have resolved this exact problem. There is an “experimental” cli tool that fixes a lot of your complaints about nix-env, nix-channel, etc. Itcs wrapped together with “flakes”. This newer feature is a little different, and working with or without flakes segments the community AND the types of articles about nix, like this one.\n
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      And as far as installation goes, using nix-env -iA really is a bad practice. Thats installing something ad hoc like you would in any other package manager. That defeats the point of nixos, where your configuration file explicitly defines all the packages you need installed, and nothing else. Nix will remove any packages you didnt specify.
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      They have resolved this exact problem. There is an “experimental” cli tool that fixes a lot of your complaints about nix-env, nix-channel, etc. Itcs wrapped together with “flakes”. This newer feature is a little different, and working with or without flakes segments the community AND the types of articles about nix, like this one.\n
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      They have resolved this exact problem. There is an “experimental” cli tool that fixes a lot of your complaints about nix-env, nix-channel, etc. Itcs wrapped together with “flakes”. This newer feature is a little different, and working with or without flakes segments the community AND the types of articles about nix, like this one.\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
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        They have resolved this exact problem. There is an “experimental” cli tool that fixes a lot of your complaints about nix-env, nix-channel, etc. Itcs wrapped together with “flakes”. This newer feature is a little different, and working with or without flakes segments the community AND the types of articles about nix, like this one.\n
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    Add this to your nix.conf: experimental-features = nix-command flakes\n
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    Then check out nix --help.
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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          What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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        They have resolved this exact problem. There is an “experimental” cli tool that fixes a lot of your complaints about nix-env, nix-channel, etc. Itcs wrapped together with “flakes”. This newer feature is a little different, and working with or without flakes segments the community AND the types of articles about nix, like this one.\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
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      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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          What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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          It’s okay to have a complicated ui. Especially if your target audience are tech-savvy. But even tech-savvy people have to start as new users. A tech-savvy new user isn’t going to know what the best practices are. Being able to anticipate the steps for installing a package is important for ux. If the commands for installing packages isn’t cohesive/intuitive, then the user has to spend more time looking for guides and learning how to use the software.\n
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        They have resolved this exact problem. There is an “experimental” cli tool that fixes a lot of your complaints about nix-env, nix-channel, etc. Itcs wrapped together with “flakes”. This newer feature is a little different, and working with or without flakes segments the community AND the types of articles about nix, like this one.\n
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        And as far as installation goes, using nix-env -iA really is a bad practice. Thats installing something ad hoc like you would in any other package manager. That defeats the point of nixos, where your configuration file explicitly defines all the packages you need installed, and nothing else. Nix will remove any packages you didnt specify.
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    Add this to your nix.conf: experimental-features = nix-command flakes\n
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    Then check out nix --help.
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
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      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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    I do think it’s important to emphasize the difference between installing software in user environments and system wide, which is why the tool is named nix-env. System packages must be installed via the nixos configuration file and a rebuild.\n
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    To me the biggest missing piece for new users is a tool to help manage your system configuration and reduce the frustration of having to constantly look up nix syntax or nixpkgs quirks. Maybe thinking of it as a nixos/nix IDE? Also a polished distribution built on nixos would be a good starting point (and easy to do, I didn’t realize I could just copy someone else’s configuration until well after I had my system working well enough)\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
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      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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      What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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    I do think it’s important to emphasize the difference between installing software in user environments and system wide, which is why the tool is named nix-env. System packages must be installed via the nixos configuration file and a rebuild.\n
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      What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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      The different ways of installing packages. Either through editing the configuration.nix or running a command. The weird inconsistency of nix commands. `nix-env -iA` to install and `nix-env --uninstall` to uninstall. Then updating uses `nix-channel --update` but upgrade uses `nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade`. All this to use the package manager. Also haven’t even mentioned flakes or home manager.\n
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    I do think it’s important to emphasize the difference between installing software in user environments and system wide, which is why the tool is named nix-env. System packages must be installed via the nixos configuration file and a rebuild.\n
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    To me the biggest missing piece for new users is a tool to help manage your system configuration and reduce the frustration of having to constantly look up nix syntax or nixpkgs quirks. Maybe thinking of it as a nixos/nix IDE? Also a polished distribution built on nixos would be a good starting point (and easy to do, I didn’t realize I could just copy someone else’s configuration until well after I had my system working well enough)\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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        What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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      I do think it’s important to emphasize the difference between installing software in user environments and system wide, which is why the tool is named nix-env. System packages must be installed via the nixos configuration file and a rebuild.\n
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      To me the biggest missing piece for new users is a tool to help manage your system configuration and reduce the frustration of having to constantly look up nix syntax or nixpkgs quirks. Maybe thinking of it as a nixos/nix IDE? Also a polished distribution built on nixos would be a good starting point (and easy to do, I didn’t realize I could just copy someone else’s configuration until well after I had my system working well enough)\n
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  +body: "Have a good guide on cleanup? 👀"
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
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        What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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        The different ways of installing packages. Either through editing the configuration.nix or running a command. The weird inconsistency of nix commands. `nix-env -iA` to install and `nix-env --uninstall` to uninstall. Then updating uses `nix-channel --update` but upgrade uses `nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade`. All this to use the package manager. Also haven’t even mentioned flakes or home manager.\n
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        It’s okay to have a complicated ui. Especially if your target audience are tech-savvy. But even tech-savvy people have to start as new users. A tech-savvy new user isn’t going to know what the best practices are. Being able to anticipate the steps for installing a package is important for ux. If the commands for installing packages isn’t cohesive/intuitive, then the user has to spend more time looking for guides and learning how to use the software.\n
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        People also mentioned a new command in the works. This is great! However, these current commands are being recommended through blogs and nix. New users won’t know about this new command.
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      I do think it’s important to emphasize the difference between installing software in user environments and system wide, which is why the tool is named nix-env. System packages must be installed via the nixos configuration file and a rebuild.\n
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      To me the biggest missing piece for new users is a tool to help manage your system configuration and reduce the frustration of having to constantly look up nix syntax or nixpkgs quirks. Maybe thinking of it as a nixos/nix IDE? Also a polished distribution built on nixos would be a good starting point (and easy to do, I didn’t realize I could just copy someone else’s configuration until well after I had my system working well enough)\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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        What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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        The different ways of installing packages. Either through editing the configuration.nix or running a command. The weird inconsistency of nix commands. `nix-env -iA` to install and `nix-env --uninstall` to uninstall. Then updating uses `nix-channel --update` but upgrade uses `nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade`. All this to use the package manager. Also haven’t even mentioned flakes or home manager.\n
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      I do think it’s important to emphasize the difference between installing software in user environments and system wide, which is why the tool is named nix-env. System packages must be installed via the nixos configuration file and a rebuild.\n
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      To me the biggest missing piece for new users is a tool to help manage your system configuration and reduce the frustration of having to constantly look up nix syntax or nixpkgs quirks. Maybe thinking of it as a nixos/nix IDE? Also a polished distribution built on nixos would be a good starting point (and easy to do, I didn’t realize I could just copy someone else’s configuration until well after I had my system working well enough)\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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          What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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          It’s okay to have a complicated ui. Especially if your target audience are tech-savvy. But even tech-savvy people have to start as new users. A tech-savvy new user isn’t going to know what the best practices are. Being able to anticipate the steps for installing a package is important for ux. If the commands for installing packages isn’t cohesive/intuitive, then the user has to spend more time looking for guides and learning how to use the software.\n
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        I do think it’s important to emphasize the difference between installing software in user environments and system wide, which is why the tool is named nix-env. System packages must be installed via the nixos configuration file and a rebuild.\n
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        To me the biggest missing piece for new users is a tool to help manage your system configuration and reduce the frustration of having to constantly look up nix syntax or nixpkgs quirks. Maybe thinking of it as a nixos/nix IDE? Also a polished distribution built on nixos would be a good starting point (and easy to do, I didn’t realize I could just copy someone else’s configuration until well after I had my system working well enough)\n
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        The other thing that got me starting out is the need to garbage collect old packages. It’s not strictly necessary if you have a large enough disk, but it took me several iterations of filling my root partition before I figured out how to properly clean up old generations.
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    +body: "Have a good guide on cleanup? 👀"
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    I think ultimately\n
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    Sudo nix-collect-garbage --delete-old\n
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    Is my go-to command. For a while I was looking at generations manually, but now I just wait a while (days, a few reboots, or until I need more space) to run this after changing things in case the new stuff is broken.\n
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    I *think* running this as my normal user cleans out old env generations… But I’m not 100% sure.
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          What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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        I do think it’s important to emphasize the difference between installing software in user environments and system wide, which is why the tool is named nix-env. System packages must be installed via the nixos configuration file and a rebuild.\n
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        To me the biggest missing piece for new users is a tool to help manage your system configuration and reduce the frustration of having to constantly look up nix syntax or nixpkgs quirks. Maybe thinking of it as a nixos/nix IDE? Also a polished distribution built on nixos would be a good starting point (and easy to do, I didn’t realize I could just copy someone else’s configuration until well after I had my system working well enough)\n
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    +body: "Have a good guide on cleanup? 👀"
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    I think ultimately\n
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    Sudo nix-collect-garbage --delete-old\n
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    Is my go-to command. For a while I was looking at generations manually, but now I just wait a while (days, a few reboots, or until I need more space) to run this after changing things in case the new stuff is broken.\n
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    I *think* running this as my normal user cleans out old env generations… But I’m not 100% sure.
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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          What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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        I do think it’s important to emphasize the difference between installing software in user environments and system wide, which is why the tool is named nix-env. System packages must be installed via the nixos configuration file and a rebuild.\n
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        To me the biggest missing piece for new users is a tool to help manage your system configuration and reduce the frustration of having to constantly look up nix syntax or nixpkgs quirks. Maybe thinking of it as a nixos/nix IDE? Also a polished distribution built on nixos would be a good starting point (and easy to do, I didn’t realize I could just copy someone else’s configuration until well after I had my system working well enough)\n
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    +body: "Have a good guide on cleanup? 👀"
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    I think ultimately\n
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    Sudo nix-collect-garbage --delete-old\n
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    Is my go-to command. For a while I was looking at generations manually, but now I just wait a while (days, a few reboots, or until I need more space) to run this after changing things in case the new stuff is broken.\n
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    I *think* running this as my normal user cleans out old env generations… But I’m not 100% sure.
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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      What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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      It’s okay to have a complicated ui. Especially if your target audience are tech-savvy. But even tech-savvy people have to start as new users. A tech-savvy new user isn’t going to know what the best practices are. Being able to anticipate the steps for installing a package is important for ux. If the commands for installing packages isn’t cohesive/intuitive, then the user has to spend more time looking for guides and learning how to use the software.\n
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      People also mentioned a new command in the works. This is great! However, these current commands are being recommended through blogs and nix. New users won’t know about this new command.
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    There is controversy in the nix world because nix flakes were (some say) merged without proper vetting first. OG nix diehards don’t want to taint nix documentation with ‘experimental’ flakes. But probably the majority of nix users are all in on flakes. So you have documentation from the OG camp that doesn’t include flakes, and you have innumerable unofficial guides for the flakes way. This on top of the quirkiness of nix the language and the multiple ways to do things. Unfortunate.\n
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    There is controversy in the nix world because nix flakes were (some say) merged without proper vetting first. OG nix diehards don’t want to taint nix documentation with ‘experimental’ flakes. But probably the majority of nix users are all in on flakes. So you have documentation from the OG camp that doesn’t include flakes, and you have innumerable unofficial guides for the flakes way. This on top of the quirkiness of nix the language and the multiple ways to do things. Unfortunate.\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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    There is controversy in the nix world because nix flakes were (some say) merged without proper vetting first. OG nix diehards don’t want to taint nix documentation with ‘experimental’ flakes. But probably the majority of nix users are all in on flakes. So you have documentation from the OG camp that doesn’t include flakes, and you have innumerable unofficial guides for the flakes way. This on top of the quirkiness of nix the language and the multiple ways to do things. Unfortunate.\n
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    IMO nix-env was a mistake. It feels like an imperative package manager which may be comfortable to new users who are used to apt or similar. But really what you should be doing on nix is maintaining *.nix files which document/specify your system setup, and nixos-rebuild to update your system to that configuration. Similarly, nix channels are an imperative holdover, which can be done away with if you use flakes, which results in your current nixpkgs version being documented in a system level flake.lock file.
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
      \n
      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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        What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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        The different ways of installing packages. Either through editing the configuration.nix or running a command. The weird inconsistency of nix commands. `nix-env -iA` to install and `nix-env --uninstall` to uninstall. Then updating uses `nix-channel --update` but upgrade uses `nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade`. All this to use the package manager. Also haven’t even mentioned flakes or home manager.\n
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        It’s a cool OS, but the UX really needs work imo.\n
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        It’s okay to have a complicated ui. Especially if your target audience are tech-savvy. But even tech-savvy people have to start as new users. A tech-savvy new user isn’t going to know what the best practices are. Being able to anticipate the steps for installing a package is important for ux. If the commands for installing packages isn’t cohesive/intuitive, then the user has to spend more time looking for guides and learning how to use the software.\n
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        People also mentioned a new command in the works. This is great! However, these current commands are being recommended through blogs and nix. New users won’t know about this new command.
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      There is controversy in the nix world because nix flakes were (some say) merged without proper vetting first. OG nix diehards don’t want to taint nix documentation with ‘experimental’ flakes. But probably the majority of nix users are all in on flakes. So you have documentation from the OG camp that doesn’t include flakes, and you have innumerable unofficial guides for the flakes way. This on top of the quirkiness of nix the language and the multiple ways to do things. Unfortunate.\n
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      IMO nix-env was a mistake. It feels like an imperative package manager which may be comfortable to new users who are used to apt or similar. But really what you should be doing on nix is maintaining *.nix files which document/specify your system setup, and nixos-rebuild to update your system to that configuration. Similarly, nix channels are an imperative holdover, which can be done away with if you use flakes, which results in your current nixpkgs version being documented in a system level flake.lock file.
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    I think both nix-env and flakes are designed with making package management easier. Nix-env tries to make it intuitive and familiar for new users. Flakes improve package management by simplifying the configuration.\n
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    Personally I would love to see syntax highlighting, language server, code completion. Maybe all in a dedicated application which is configured to give the easiest experience for new users. If nix is intended to be managed through config files, then the experience of writing a config should be as easy as possible.
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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        What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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      There is controversy in the nix world because nix flakes were (some say) merged without proper vetting first. OG nix diehards don’t want to taint nix documentation with ‘experimental’ flakes. But probably the majority of nix users are all in on flakes. So you have documentation from the OG camp that doesn’t include flakes, and you have innumerable unofficial guides for the flakes way. This on top of the quirkiness of nix the language and the multiple ways to do things. Unfortunate.\n
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    I think both nix-env and flakes are designed with making package management easier. Nix-env tries to make it intuitive and familiar for new users. Flakes improve package management by simplifying the configuration.\n
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        People also mentioned a new command in the works. This is great! However, these current commands are being recommended through blogs and nix. New users won’t know about this new command.
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      There is controversy in the nix world because nix flakes were (some say) merged without proper vetting first. OG nix diehards don’t want to taint nix documentation with ‘experimental’ flakes. But probably the majority of nix users are all in on flakes. So you have documentation from the OG camp that doesn’t include flakes, and you have innumerable unofficial guides for the flakes way. This on top of the quirkiness of nix the language and the multiple ways to do things. Unfortunate.\n
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    I think both nix-env and flakes are designed with making package management easier. Nix-env tries to make it intuitive and familiar for new users. Flakes improve package management by simplifying the configuration.\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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          What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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        There is controversy in the nix world because nix flakes were (some say) merged without proper vetting first. OG nix diehards don’t want to taint nix documentation with ‘experimental’ flakes. But probably the majority of nix users are all in on flakes. So you have documentation from the OG camp that doesn’t include flakes, and you have innumerable unofficial guides for the flakes way. This on top of the quirkiness of nix the language and the multiple ways to do things. Unfortunate.\n
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      I think both nix-env and flakes are designed with making package management easier. Nix-env tries to make it intuitive and familiar for new users. Flakes improve package management by simplifying the configuration.\n
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      Personally I would love to see syntax highlighting, language server, code completion. Maybe all in a dedicated application which is configured to give the easiest experience for new users. If nix is intended to be managed through config files, then the experience of writing a config should be as easy as possible.
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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          What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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          It’s a cool OS, but the UX really needs work imo.\n
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          It’s okay to have a complicated ui. Especially if your target audience are tech-savvy. But even tech-savvy people have to start as new users. A tech-savvy new user isn’t going to know what the best practices are. Being able to anticipate the steps for installing a package is important for ux. If the commands for installing packages isn’t cohesive/intuitive, then the user has to spend more time looking for guides and learning how to use the software.\n
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          People also mentioned a new command in the works. This is great! However, these current commands are being recommended through blogs and nix. New users won’t know about this new command.
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        There is controversy in the nix world because nix flakes were (some say) merged without proper vetting first. OG nix diehards don’t want to taint nix documentation with ‘experimental’ flakes. But probably the majority of nix users are all in on flakes. So you have documentation from the OG camp that doesn’t include flakes, and you have innumerable unofficial guides for the flakes way. This on top of the quirkiness of nix the language and the multiple ways to do things. Unfortunate.\n
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      I think both nix-env and flakes are designed with making package management easier. Nix-env tries to make it intuitive and familiar for new users. Flakes improve package management by simplifying the configuration.\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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          What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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        There is controversy in the nix world because nix flakes were (some say) merged without proper vetting first. OG nix diehards don’t want to taint nix documentation with ‘experimental’ flakes. But probably the majority of nix users are all in on flakes. So you have documentation from the OG camp that doesn’t include flakes, and you have innumerable unofficial guides for the flakes way. This on top of the quirkiness of nix the language and the multiple ways to do things. Unfortunate.\n
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      I think both nix-env and flakes are designed with making package management easier. Nix-env tries to make it intuitive and familiar for new users. Flakes improve package management by simplifying the configuration.\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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          What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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          It’s okay to have a complicated ui. Especially if your target audience are tech-savvy. But even tech-savvy people have to start as new users. A tech-savvy new user isn’t going to know what the best practices are. Being able to anticipate the steps for installing a package is important for ux. If the commands for installing packages isn’t cohesive/intuitive, then the user has to spend more time looking for guides and learning how to use the software.\n
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          People also mentioned a new command in the works. This is great! However, these current commands are being recommended through blogs and nix. New users won’t know about this new command.
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        There is controversy in the nix world because nix flakes were (some say) merged without proper vetting first. OG nix diehards don’t want to taint nix documentation with ‘experimental’ flakes. But probably the majority of nix users are all in on flakes. So you have documentation from the OG camp that doesn’t include flakes, and you have innumerable unofficial guides for the flakes way. This on top of the quirkiness of nix the language and the multiple ways to do things. Unfortunate.\n
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      I think both nix-env and flakes are designed with making package management easier. Nix-env tries to make it intuitive and familiar for new users. Flakes improve package management by simplifying the configuration.\n
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    The intent of nix-env was to make it easier, but the effect was to push some of your system state into a shadowy ‘env’ realm that is not managed by your *nix files. Same with channels - its state that isn’t in your configuration.nix.\n
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    I’m using nixd for a nix language server, but haven’t seen a lot of benefit so far to be honest. I think part of the reason is nixpkgs isn’t pulled in until runtime, so most things are undefined as far as the lsp is concerned. Haven’t put a lot of time into it, there may be ways to make it more useful.
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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          What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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        There is controversy in the nix world because nix flakes were (some say) merged without proper vetting first. OG nix diehards don’t want to taint nix documentation with ‘experimental’ flakes. But probably the majority of nix users are all in on flakes. So you have documentation from the OG camp that doesn’t include flakes, and you have innumerable unofficial guides for the flakes way. This on top of the quirkiness of nix the language and the multiple ways to do things. Unfortunate.\n
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      I think both nix-env and flakes are designed with making package management easier. Nix-env tries to make it intuitive and familiar for new users. Flakes improve package management by simplifying the configuration.\n
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      Personally I would love to see syntax highlighting, language server, code completion. Maybe all in a dedicated application which is configured to give the easiest experience for new users. If nix is intended to be managed through config files, then the experience of writing a config should be as easy as possible.
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    The intent of nix-env was to make it easier, but the effect was to push some of your system state into a shadowy ‘env’ realm that is not managed by your *nix files. Same with channels - its state that isn’t in your configuration.nix.\n
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    To me the whole point is to have all your state in some files you can check in to version control, and use to reproduce your system.\n
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    I’m using nixd for a nix language server, but haven’t seen a lot of benefit so far to be honest. I think part of the reason is nixpkgs isn’t pulled in until runtime, so most things are undefined as far as the lsp is concerned. Haven’t put a lot of time into it, there may be ways to make it more useful.
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      1. [NixOS Series #1: Why Should You Consider Using NixOS?](https://itsfoss.com/why-use-nixos/)\n
      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
      \n
      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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          What’s up with the ux design of nix? I get it’s made for advanced users but still. I’m reading through this guide and man it’s convoluted.\n
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          The different ways of installing packages. Either through editing the configuration.nix or running a command. The weird inconsistency of nix commands. `nix-env -iA` to install and `nix-env --uninstall` to uninstall. Then updating uses `nix-channel --update` but upgrade uses `nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade`. All this to use the package manager. Also haven’t even mentioned flakes or home manager.\n
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          It’s a cool OS, but the UX really needs work imo.\n
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          It’s okay to have a complicated ui. Especially if your target audience are tech-savvy. But even tech-savvy people have to start as new users. A tech-savvy new user isn’t going to know what the best practices are. Being able to anticipate the steps for installing a package is important for ux. If the commands for installing packages isn’t cohesive/intuitive, then the user has to spend more time looking for guides and learning how to use the software.\n
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          People also mentioned a new command in the works. This is great! However, these current commands are being recommended through blogs and nix. New users won’t know about this new command.
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        There is controversy in the nix world because nix flakes were (some say) merged without proper vetting first. OG nix diehards don’t want to taint nix documentation with ‘experimental’ flakes. But probably the majority of nix users are all in on flakes. So you have documentation from the OG camp that doesn’t include flakes, and you have innumerable unofficial guides for the flakes way. This on top of the quirkiness of nix the language and the multiple ways to do things. Unfortunate.\n
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        IMO nix-env was a mistake. It feels like an imperative package manager which may be comfortable to new users who are used to apt or similar. But really what you should be doing on nix is maintaining *.nix files which document/specify your system setup, and nixos-rebuild to update your system to that configuration. Similarly, nix channels are an imperative holdover, which can be done away with if you use flakes, which results in your current nixpkgs version being documented in a system level flake.lock file.
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      I think both nix-env and flakes are designed with making package management easier. Nix-env tries to make it intuitive and familiar for new users. Flakes improve package management by simplifying the configuration.\n
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    The intent of nix-env was to make it easier, but the effect was to push some of your system state into a shadowy ‘env’ realm that is not managed by your *nix files. Same with channels - its state that isn’t in your configuration.nix.\n
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    To me the whole point is to have all your state in some files you can check in to version control, and use to reproduce your system.\n
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    Agree it would be cool to have a way to edit nix files that would give you all the args to functions, code completion etc. You do get some of that with the nix repl. Would be nice to even have a GUI for selecting packages for those that don’t “do” text editing.\n
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    I’m using nixd for a nix language server, but haven’t seen a lot of benefit so far to be honest. I think part of the reason is nixpkgs isn’t pulled in until runtime, so most things are undefined as far as the lsp is concerned. Haven’t put a lot of time into it, there may be ways to make it more useful.
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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      My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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    I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
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            Since I’m already a NixOS user, I thought to check out Series 4. One of the steps was “install flatpak”\n
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          > “install flatpak”\n
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          why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility
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        My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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        I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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        Then I can just do a rebuild switch when I see them, make sure it’s all working, and then trust that they probably won’t break the system in-between.\n
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      I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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      Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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    I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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          > “install flatpak”\n
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          why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility
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        My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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        I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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        Then I can just do a rebuild switch when I see them, make sure it’s all working, and then trust that they probably won’t break the system in-between.\n
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      I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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    I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
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      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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            Since I’m already a NixOS user, I thought to check out Series 4. One of the steps was “install flatpak”\n
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          > “install flatpak”\n
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          why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility
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        My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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        I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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        Then I can just do a rebuild switch when I see them, make sure it’s all working, and then trust that they probably won’t break the system in-between.\n
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      I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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      Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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    I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      1. [NixOS Series #1: Why Should You Consider Using NixOS?](https://itsfoss.com/why-use-nixos/)\n
      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
      \n
      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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              Since I’m already a NixOS user, I thought to check out Series 4. One of the steps was “install flatpak”\n
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            > “install flatpak”\n
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            why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility
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          My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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          I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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          Then I can just do a rebuild switch when I see them, make sure it’s all working, and then trust that they probably won’t break the system in-between.\n
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          Edit: to be clear, in my own config, if it’s not reproducible, I’m actively working to fix that.
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        I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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        Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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      I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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    That makes a lot of sense. I can setup their computer with nixos and stuff that needs to be updated regularly (like a web browser) can be flatpak which should be more stable too.\n
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    Then `flatpak update` would get them updated without rebuilding the whole OS.\n
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    My grandparents have been rocking Linux Mint for a few years. I have managed Chrome through Flatpak since I discovered that was possible on Mint. I’ve been flirting with the idea of having NixOS instead so I don’t have to remember what I’ve configured in the past. I’m not 100% sure now though :-P
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
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      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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            > “install flatpak”\n
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            why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility
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          My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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          I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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        I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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        Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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      I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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    That makes a lot of sense. I can setup their computer with nixos and stuff that needs to be updated regularly (like a web browser) can be flatpak which should be more stable too.\n
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    Then `flatpak update` would get them updated without rebuilding the whole OS.\n
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    My grandparents have been rocking Linux Mint for a few years. I have managed Chrome through Flatpak since I discovered that was possible on Mint. I’ve been flirting with the idea of having NixOS instead so I don’t have to remember what I’ve configured in the past. I’m not 100% sure now though :-P
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              Since I’m already a NixOS user, I thought to check out Series 4. One of the steps was “install flatpak”\n
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            > “install flatpak”\n
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            why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility
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          My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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          I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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          Then I can just do a rebuild switch when I see them, make sure it’s all working, and then trust that they probably won’t break the system in-between.\n
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        I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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        Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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      I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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    That makes a lot of sense. I can setup their computer with nixos and stuff that needs to be updated regularly (like a web browser) can be flatpak which should be more stable too.\n
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    Then `flatpak update` would get them updated without rebuilding the whole OS.\n
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    My grandparents have been rocking Linux Mint for a few years. I have managed Chrome through Flatpak since I discovered that was possible on Mint. I’ve been flirting with the idea of having NixOS instead so I don’t have to remember what I’ve configured in the past. I’m not 100% sure now though :-P
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
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      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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                Since I’m already a NixOS user, I thought to check out Series 4. One of the steps was “install flatpak”\n
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              > “install flatpak”\n
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              why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility
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            My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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            I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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            Then I can just do a rebuild switch when I see them, make sure it’s all working, and then trust that they probably won’t break the system in-between.\n
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          I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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          Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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        I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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      That makes a lot of sense. I can setup their computer with nixos and stuff that needs to be updated regularly (like a web browser) can be flatpak which should be more stable too.\n
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      Then `flatpak update` would get them updated without rebuilding the whole OS.\n
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      My grandparents have been rocking Linux Mint for a few years. I have managed Chrome through Flatpak since I discovered that was possible on Mint. I’ve been flirting with the idea of having NixOS instead so I don’t have to remember what I’ve configured in the past. I’m not 100% sure now though :-P
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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              > “install flatpak”\n
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              why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility
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            My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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            I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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            Then I can just do a rebuild switch when I see them, make sure it’s all working, and then trust that they probably won’t break the system in-between.\n
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          I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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          Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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        I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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      That makes a lot of sense. I can setup their computer with nixos and stuff that needs to be updated regularly (like a web browser) can be flatpak which should be more stable too.\n
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      Then `flatpak update` would get them updated without rebuilding the whole OS.\n
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      My grandparents have been rocking Linux Mint for a few years. I have managed Chrome through Flatpak since I discovered that was possible on Mint. I’ve been flirting with the idea of having NixOS instead so I don’t have to remember what I’ve configured in the past. I’m not 100% sure now though :-P
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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                Since I’m already a NixOS user, I thought to check out Series 4. One of the steps was “install flatpak”\n
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              > “install flatpak”\n
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              why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility
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            My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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            I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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            Then I can just do a rebuild switch when I see them, make sure it’s all working, and then trust that they probably won’t break the system in-between.\n
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            Edit: to be clear, in my own config, if it’s not reproducible, I’m actively working to fix that.
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          I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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          Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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        I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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        That’s why I think building a core system with NixOS and then having user software come from Flatpak is a nice combo for simple workstation that won’t update and bork itself, leaving my grandpa without a laptop until I can come take a look.\n
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        Edit: To clarify, nixos-rebuild-switch won’t update your Flatpaks at all – just the Flatpak service
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      That makes a lot of sense. I can setup their computer with nixos and stuff that needs to be updated regularly (like a web browser) can be flatpak which should be more stable too.\n
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      Then `flatpak update` would get them updated without rebuilding the whole OS.\n
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      My grandparents have been rocking Linux Mint for a few years. I have managed Chrome through Flatpak since I discovered that was possible on Mint. I’ve been flirting with the idea of having NixOS instead so I don’t have to remember what I’ve configured in the past. I’m not 100% sure now though :-P
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        Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word “Linux” in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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                  Since I’m already a NixOS user, I thought to check out Series 4. One of the steps was “install flatpak”\n
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                  My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
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                > “install flatpak”\n
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                why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility
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              My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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              I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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              Then I can just do a rebuild switch when I see them, make sure it’s all working, and then trust that they probably won’t break the system in-between.\n
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              Edit: to be clear, in my own config, if it’s not reproducible, I’m actively working to fix that.
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            I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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            Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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          I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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          That’s why I think building a core system with NixOS and then having user software come from Flatpak is a nice combo for simple workstation that won’t update and bork itself, leaving my grandpa without a laptop until I can come take a look.\n
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          Edit: To clarify, nixos-rebuild-switch won’t update your Flatpaks at all – just the Flatpak service
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        That makes a lot of sense. I can setup their computer with nixos and stuff that needs to be updated regularly (like a web browser) can be flatpak which should be more stable too.\n
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        Then `flatpak update` would get them updated without rebuilding the whole OS.\n
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        My grandparents have been rocking Linux Mint for a few years. I have managed Chrome through Flatpak since I discovered that was possible on Mint. I’ve been flirting with the idea of having NixOS instead so I don’t have to remember what I’ve configured in the past. I’m not 100% sure now though :-P
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
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                > “install flatpak”\n
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                why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility
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              My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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              I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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              Then I can just do a rebuild switch when I see them, make sure it’s all working, and then trust that they probably won’t break the system in-between.\n
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              Edit: to be clear, in my own config, if it’s not reproducible, I’m actively working to fix that.
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            I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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            Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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          I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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          That’s what nix-collect-garbage handles – once you know your current generation is working well, you collect the garbage and recover that space, at the expense of not being able to roll back.\n
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          That’s why I think building a core system with NixOS and then having user software come from Flatpak is a nice combo for simple workstation that won’t update and bork itself, leaving my grandpa without a laptop until I can come take a look.\n
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          Edit: To clarify, nixos-rebuild-switch won’t update your Flatpaks at all – just the Flatpak service
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        That makes a lot of sense. I can setup their computer with nixos and stuff that needs to be updated regularly (like a web browser) can be flatpak which should be more stable too.\n
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        Then `flatpak update` would get them updated without rebuilding the whole OS.\n
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        My grandparents have been rocking Linux Mint for a few years. I have managed Chrome through Flatpak since I discovered that was possible on Mint. I’ve been flirting with the idea of having NixOS instead so I don’t have to remember what I’ve configured in the past. I’m not 100% sure now though :-P
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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                  Since I’m already a NixOS user, I thought to check out Series 4. One of the steps was “install flatpak”\n
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                > “install flatpak”\n
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                why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility
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              My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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              I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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              Then I can just do a rebuild switch when I see them, make sure it’s all working, and then trust that they probably won’t break the system in-between.\n
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              Edit: to be clear, in my own config, if it’s not reproducible, I’m actively working to fix that.
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            I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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            Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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          I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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          That’s what nix-collect-garbage handles – once you know your current generation is working well, you collect the garbage and recover that space, at the expense of not being able to roll back.\n
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          That’s why I think building a core system with NixOS and then having user software come from Flatpak is a nice combo for simple workstation that won’t update and bork itself, leaving my grandpa without a laptop until I can come take a look.\n
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          Edit: To clarify, nixos-rebuild-switch won’t update your Flatpaks at all – just the Flatpak service
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        That makes a lot of sense. I can setup their computer with nixos and stuff that needs to be updated regularly (like a web browser) can be flatpak which should be more stable too.\n
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        Then `flatpak update` would get them updated without rebuilding the whole OS.\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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                    Since I’m already a NixOS user, I thought to check out Series 4. One of the steps was “install flatpak”\n
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                  > “install flatpak”\n
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                  why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility
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                My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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                I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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                Then I can just do a rebuild switch when I see them, make sure it’s all working, and then trust that they probably won’t break the system in-between.\n
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                Edit: to be clear, in my own config, if it’s not reproducible, I’m actively working to fix that.
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              I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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              Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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            I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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          That makes a lot of sense. I can setup their computer with nixos and stuff that needs to be updated regularly (like a web browser) can be flatpak which should be more stable too.\n
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          Then `flatpak update` would get them updated without rebuilding the whole OS.\n
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          My grandparents have been rocking Linux Mint for a few years. I have managed Chrome through Flatpak since I discovered that was possible on Mint. I’ve been flirting with the idea of having NixOS instead so I don’t have to remember what I’ve configured in the past. I’m not 100% sure now though :-P
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    It’s a [graphical boot screen](https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_(software)).\n
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                My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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                I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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                Then I can just do a rebuild switch when I see them, make sure it’s all working, and then trust that they probably won’t break the system in-between.\n
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                Edit: to be clear, in my own config, if it’s not reproducible, I’m actively working to fix that.
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              I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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              Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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            I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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            That’s why I think building a core system with NixOS and then having user software come from Flatpak is a nice combo for simple workstation that won’t update and bork itself, leaving my grandpa without a laptop until I can come take a look.\n
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            Edit: To clarify, nixos-rebuild-switch won’t update your Flatpaks at all – just the Flatpak service
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          That makes a lot of sense. I can setup their computer with nixos and stuff that needs to be updated regularly (like a web browser) can be flatpak which should be more stable too.\n
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          Then `flatpak update` would get them updated without rebuilding the whole OS.\n
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          My grandparents have been rocking Linux Mint for a few years. I have managed Chrome through Flatpak since I discovered that was possible on Mint. I’ve been flirting with the idea of having NixOS instead so I don’t have to remember what I’ve configured in the past. I’m not 100% sure now though :-P
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    It’s a [graphical boot screen](https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_(software)).\n
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                    Since I’m already a NixOS user, I thought to check out Series 4. One of the steps was “install flatpak”\n
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                  > “install flatpak”\n
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                  why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility
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                My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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                I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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                Then I can just do a rebuild switch when I see them, make sure it’s all working, and then trust that they probably won’t break the system in-between.\n
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                Edit: to be clear, in my own config, if it’s not reproducible, I’m actively working to fix that.
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              I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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              Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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            I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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            That’s what nix-collect-garbage handles – once you know your current generation is working well, you collect the garbage and recover that space, at the expense of not being able to roll back.\n
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            That’s why I think building a core system with NixOS and then having user software come from Flatpak is a nice combo for simple workstation that won’t update and bork itself, leaving my grandpa without a laptop until I can come take a look.\n
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            Edit: To clarify, nixos-rebuild-switch won’t update your Flatpaks at all – just the Flatpak service
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          That makes a lot of sense. I can setup their computer with nixos and stuff that needs to be updated regularly (like a web browser) can be flatpak which should be more stable too.\n
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          Then `flatpak update` would get them updated without rebuilding the whole OS.\n
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          My grandparents have been rocking Linux Mint for a few years. I have managed Chrome through Flatpak since I discovered that was possible on Mint. I’ve been flirting with the idea of having NixOS instead so I don’t have to remember what I’ve configured in the past. I’m not 100% sure now though :-P
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      +body: "Exactly right. Throw in Plymouth and set the bootloader timeout to 0 and you’ve got a noob-friendly workstation."
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    +body: "Plymouth?"
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    It’s a [graphical boot screen](https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_(software)).\n
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    Just helps eliminate all the bootloader noise you see when booting up or powering off that make scare off less tech-savvy folks
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
      3. [NixOS Series #3: Install and Remove Packages in NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/nixos-package-management/)\n
      4. [NixOS Series #4: Things To Do After Installing NixOS](https://itsfoss.com/things-to-do-after-installing-nixos/)\n
      5. [NixOS Series #5: How to set up home-manager on NixOS? ](https://itsfoss.com/home-manager-nixos/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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                      Since I’m already a NixOS user, I thought to check out Series 4. One of the steps was “install flatpak”\n
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                      My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
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                    > “install flatpak”\n
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                    why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility
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                  My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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                  I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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                  Then I can just do a rebuild switch when I see them, make sure it’s all working, and then trust that they probably won’t break the system in-between.\n
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                  Edit: to be clear, in my own config, if it’s not reproducible, I’m actively working to fix that.
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                I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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                Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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              I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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              That’s what nix-collect-garbage handles – once you know your current generation is working well, you collect the garbage and recover that space, at the expense of not being able to roll back.\n
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              That’s why I think building a core system with NixOS and then having user software come from Flatpak is a nice combo for simple workstation that won’t update and bork itself, leaving my grandpa without a laptop until I can come take a look.\n
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              Edit: To clarify, nixos-rebuild-switch won’t update your Flatpaks at all – just the Flatpak service
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            That makes a lot of sense. I can setup their computer with nixos and stuff that needs to be updated regularly (like a web browser) can be flatpak which should be more stable too.\n
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            Then `flatpak update` would get them updated without rebuilding the whole OS.\n
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            My grandparents have been rocking Linux Mint for a few years. I have managed Chrome through Flatpak since I discovered that was possible on Mint. I’ve been flirting with the idea of having NixOS instead so I don’t have to remember what I’ve configured in the past. I’m not 100% sure now though :-P
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      It’s a [graphical boot screen](https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_(software)).\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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      2. [NixOS Series #2: How to Install NixOS on a Virtual Machine?](https://itsfoss.com/install-nixos-vm/)\n
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      #nixos #linux #tutorial #guide
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                      Since I’m already a NixOS user, I thought to check out Series 4. One of the steps was “install flatpak”\n
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                    > “install flatpak”\n
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                    why would someone do that in NixOS? nix has a lot of packages and using flatpaks imperatively would lead to less reproducibility
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                  My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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                  I configure all the basics in .nix files, and then from there, they can install Flatpak from the software center, like they are used to doing.\n
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                  Edit: to be clear, in my own config, if it’s not reproducible, I’m actively working to fix that.
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                I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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                Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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              I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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              That’s why I think building a core system with NixOS and then having user software come from Flatpak is a nice combo for simple workstation that won’t update and bork itself, leaving my grandpa without a laptop until I can come take a look.\n
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              Edit: To clarify, nixos-rebuild-switch won’t update your Flatpaks at all – just the Flatpak service
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            That makes a lot of sense. I can setup their computer with nixos and stuff that needs to be updated regularly (like a web browser) can be flatpak which should be more stable too.\n
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            Then `flatpak update` would get them updated without rebuilding the whole OS.\n
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      It’s a [graphical boot screen](https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_(software)).\n
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                  My usecase is that I want to build a rock-solid workstation laptop for my non-tech-savvy family member.\n
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                I thought about doing that but updating nixos confuses me. Does `nixos-rebuild switch` pull new packages? To my understanding there is a file that saves all currently installed versions of packages and switch only adds new things but wouldn’t update packages.\n
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                Like, if I want to update Google Chrome. Doing switch wouldn’t change anything if the config hasn’t changed, right?
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              I believe that’s correct – if nothing has changed from your last generation, then the new generation will be identical. But if something has changed, it will do a bunch of duplicating and remapping symlinks in the Nix store to ensure that everything plays nicely together and that you can rollback to a previous generation if needed.\n
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              That’s what nix-collect-garbage handles – once you know your current generation is working well, you collect the garbage and recover that space, at the expense of not being able to roll back.\n
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              That’s why I think building a core system with NixOS and then having user software come from Flatpak is a nice combo for simple workstation that won’t update and bork itself, leaving my grandpa without a laptop until I can come take a look.\n
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              Edit: To clarify, nixos-rebuild-switch won’t update your Flatpaks at all – just the Flatpak service
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            That makes a lot of sense. I can setup their computer with nixos and stuff that needs to be updated regularly (like a web browser) can be flatpak which should be more stable too.\n
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            Then `flatpak update` would get them updated without rebuilding the whole OS.\n
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            My grandparents have been rocking Linux Mint for a few years. I have managed Chrome through Flatpak since I discovered that was possible on Mint. I’ve been flirting with the idea of having NixOS instead so I don’t have to remember what I’ve configured in the past. I’m not 100% sure now though :-P
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      It’s a [graphical boot screen](https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_(software)).\n
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      I found these interesting Nix OS articles series for users that want to try it and learn first things, have a good reading!\n
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