GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/u/@N3M@reddthat.com/active

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
1.07 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
0.06 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER
null
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate
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  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2363 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1739 …}
  +slug: "Surface-Go-2-with-4GB-Ram-and-4425Y-worth-it"
  +title: "Surface Go 2 with 4GB Ram and 4425Y worth it?"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    Hi! There’s no Surface on Linux Lemmy community (yet), but I didn’t feel like asking on reddit, so I thought that this community is my best bet.\n
    \n
    I was thinking about getting a surface go, since I really like the form factor and have fond memories of my old Surface Pro 3 in Uni.\n
    \n
    Now, there’s a deal going on, where they’re selling the tablet for under 300€, but it’s the low-spec one with 4GB RAM and the weakest processor. I was wondering if I would be doing myself a favor by getting a tablet with these low-end specs.\n
    \n
    My usecases would be: Note taking with rnote/xournalpp, surfing, reading, youtube and maybe some light coding.\n
    \n
    A FOSS system with encrypted home directory is essential for me, which is why I’m not even considering Android/Apple tablets.\n
    \n
    I think I’d give Fedora Silverblue a shot, because Gnome is supposedly great for tablets and it seems more stable to fuck-ups. But maybe the meager storage space (64GB) makes this infeasible\n
    \n
    Do any of you have any experiences with these low specs? Or even with a Surface Go 2 in 2023 daily use?
    """
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  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 45
  +favouriteCount: 35
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1701963384 {#1617
    date: 2023-12-07 16:36:24.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1741 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1707 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2463 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1384 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2395 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2022 …}
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1558 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        A month or so ago I picked up an 8gb model and it’s been really nice, [I wrote a blog post about it if you’re interested](https://nate.mecca1.net/posts/2023-12-01_tablets-2/) and have been really happy with it. 4gb is enough for note taking & code writing, web browsing, reading, and YouTube watching (at low/mid resolutions) and I actually got away with those on a 2gb RAM 16gb storage Chromebook + Debian for a while. Still though, if you can spring for 8gb of ram that will be helpful, and a necessity if you want to do things like run [waydroid](https://waydro.id/).\n
        \n
        Gnome works great, just be sure to set up the on screen keyboard and run the [custom hot corners plugin](https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/4167/custom-hot-corners-extended/) to make it work everywhere. Also, I know that chromium doesn’t have the best reputation in these parts, but you’ll probably need to use either a WebKit or chromium browser for their touch controls and PWAs.\n
        \n
        I went with Debian, but I can’t imagine Fedora offering a much different experience. Mine worked fine without a surface specific kernel, but results may vary from device to device.\n
        \n
        Last, I bought mine used for $99 US on EBay. Not sure how it varies from country to country but at least in the states you can find older surface models in decent condition starting at $70 US or $100 US for ones in like new condition with a keyboard & charger.\n
        \n
        Edit: beyond Surfaces, if you’re deal hunting and don’t mind more research I believe most 2 in 1s running Windows or ChromeOS will accept a custom OS.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 3
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701783087 {#1621
        date: 2023-12-05 14:31:27.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@Prunebutt@feddit.de"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1554 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1562 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1566 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1548 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1550 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1525 …}
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
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      +apId: "https://reddthat.com/comment/5380896"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1703037819 {#1555
        date: 2023-12-20 03:03:39.0 +01:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701783087 {#1557
        date: 2023-12-05 14:31:27.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 198685
    }
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1558 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1795 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#1705 …}
      +body: "The tablet and 2 in 1 surface devices are pretty much laptops (at least same architecture and bootloader) amd they’ve been easy to boot other stuff with in my somewhat limited experience."
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      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 1
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701783368 {#1527
        date: 2023-12-05 14:36:08.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@Prunebutt@feddit.de"
        "@Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works"
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      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1611 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1630 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1628 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1599 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1625 …}
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      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
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      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701783368 {#1528
        date: 2023-12-05 14:36:08.0 +01:00
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      +"title": 198699
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  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701766021 {#2370
    date: 2023-12-05 09:47:01.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
ACCESS DENIED
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1558
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2363 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1739 …}
  +slug: "Surface-Go-2-with-4GB-Ram-and-4425Y-worth-it"
  +title: "Surface Go 2 with 4GB Ram and 4425Y worth it?"
  +url: null
  +body: """
    Hi! There’s no Surface on Linux Lemmy community (yet), but I didn’t feel like asking on reddit, so I thought that this community is my best bet.\n
    \n
    I was thinking about getting a surface go, since I really like the form factor and have fond memories of my old Surface Pro 3 in Uni.\n
    \n
    Now, there’s a deal going on, where they’re selling the tablet for under 300€, but it’s the low-spec one with 4GB RAM and the weakest processor. I was wondering if I would be doing myself a favor by getting a tablet with these low-end specs.\n
    \n
    My usecases would be: Note taking with rnote/xournalpp, surfing, reading, youtube and maybe some light coding.\n
    \n
    A FOSS system with encrypted home directory is essential for me, which is why I’m not even considering Android/Apple tablets.\n
    \n
    I think I’d give Fedora Silverblue a shot, because Gnome is supposedly great for tablets and it seems more stable to fuck-ups. But maybe the meager storage space (64GB) makes this infeasible\n
    \n
    Do any of you have any experiences with these low specs? Or even with a Surface Go 2 in 2023 daily use?
    """
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 45
  +favouriteCount: 35
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1701963384 {#1617
    date: 2023-12-07 16:36:24.0 +01:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1741 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1707 …}
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  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#1384 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2395 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2022 …}
  +children: [
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1558 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1584 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: """
        A month or so ago I picked up an 8gb model and it’s been really nice, [I wrote a blog post about it if you’re interested](https://nate.mecca1.net/posts/2023-12-01_tablets-2/) and have been really happy with it. 4gb is enough for note taking & code writing, web browsing, reading, and YouTube watching (at low/mid resolutions) and I actually got away with those on a 2gb RAM 16gb storage Chromebook + Debian for a while. Still though, if you can spring for 8gb of ram that will be helpful, and a necessity if you want to do things like run [waydroid](https://waydro.id/).\n
        \n
        Gnome works great, just be sure to set up the on screen keyboard and run the [custom hot corners plugin](https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/4167/custom-hot-corners-extended/) to make it work everywhere. Also, I know that chromium doesn’t have the best reputation in these parts, but you’ll probably need to use either a WebKit or chromium browser for their touch controls and PWAs.\n
        \n
        I went with Debian, but I can’t imagine Fedora offering a much different experience. Mine worked fine without a surface specific kernel, but results may vary from device to device.\n
        \n
        Last, I bought mine used for $99 US on EBay. Not sure how it varies from country to country but at least in the states you can find older surface models in decent condition starting at $70 US or $100 US for ones in like new condition with a keyboard & charger.\n
        \n
        Edit: beyond Surfaces, if you’re deal hunting and don’t mind more research I believe most 2 in 1s running Windows or ChromeOS will accept a custom OS.
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 3
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701783087 {#1621
        date: 2023-12-05 14:31:27.0 +01:00
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        date: 2023-12-20 03:03:39.0 +01:00
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      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701783087 {#1557
        date: 2023-12-05 14:31:27.0 +01:00
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      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1558 …2}
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          A month or so ago I picked up an 8gb model and it’s been really nice, [I wrote a blog post about it if you’re interested](https://nate.mecca1.net/posts/2023-12-01_tablets-2/) and have been really happy with it. 4gb is enough for note taking & code writing, web browsing, reading, and YouTube watching (at low/mid resolutions) and I actually got away with those on a 2gb RAM 16gb storage Chromebook + Debian for a while. Still though, if you can spring for 8gb of ram that will be helpful, and a necessity if you want to do things like run [waydroid](https://waydro.id/).\n
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    [ivonblog.com/en-us/posts/pine64-pinetab2-review/](https://ivonblog.com/en-us/posts/pine64-pinetab2-review/)\n
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    [ivonblog.com/…/after-3-months-of-daily-driving-pi…](https://ivonblog.com/en-us/posts/after-3-months-of-daily-driving-pinetab-2/)
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