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I would just caution anyone that blocking ads while logged into your Google account is probably a bad idea if you care about still watching videos there. Google will grow more desperate to show tracked ads to users.\n
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I would just caution anyone that blocking ads while logged into your Google account is probably a bad idea if you care about still watching videos there. Google will grow more desperate to show tracked ads to users.\n
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I would just caution anyone that blocking ads while logged into your Google account is probably a bad idea if you care about still watching videos there. Google will grow more desperate to show tracked ads to users.\n
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You might have noticed that even on Firefox (depending on your lists) [YouTube may detect uBlock Origin on Firefox now](https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/6089078)\n
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They’re both great tools, and using something like [LibRedirect](https://libredirect.github.io/) you can even automatically go to Piped or Invidious when clicking/opening a YouTube link (and more).\n
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Both don’t load ads, but unless changed in the settings Individous may still make connections to Google/YouTube to load the video(s) themselves.\n
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> Philistines\n
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This gives the game away, although I’m sure you were joking.\n
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Marty’s common refrain has been “there is an emotional core to this movie - we had a meeting!”\n
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Look, there is a business to high production films, and we have to accept that. Marty clearly has, has participated in it, and used his well earned artistic reputation to criticize it. Good stuff.
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+body: "Well, he has also been criticizing them in the sense that creating these movies are not done in pursuit of a [creative purpose](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/opinion/martin-scorsese-marvel.html). That there is no emotional risk. I think it is an apt criticism - but where is the great creative risk in making another gangster movie staring Robby and Joey?"
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I’m speaking specifically about the Irishman, a movie I love btw. But do I think it is more artistically “valid” than infinity war? No.\n
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It is less creatively “risky” than not doing another gangster film, thats simply a fact. And that’s okay. On some level, it is a “lets get the gang back together for one more ride” movie. On some level, all the players involved have certainly earned the right to do that. But it is odd to criticize studios for essentially taking the exact same approach to film making, especially for movies with massive commercial success - even if you argue that the quality of the art produced isn’t the same.\n
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Pacino’s role is a good example. He practically admitted that he was too old for the role off Jimmy Hoffa after filming, in multiple different interviews. So why was he chosen? You said it yourself - people want to see one of the most beloved Italian American gangster actors get directed by one one most beloved Italian American gangster directors. And you are a fanboy over it. And that is okay. I “forgive” you or whatever. I am too.\n
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It goes to show that formula film making can produce great films, and that the MCU movies that are bad (for many are fine films) aren’t bad because they are based on comic books, or because there is multiple of them. Comic books that were extremely artistic and considered important works of 20th century science fiction in their own right (talking about Jack Kirby specifically). I would argue that eventually the MCU did become a very cynical excercise that is determined *more* by studio number crunching. That happens for all sorts of reasons in Hollywood.
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I won’t be as crude as the guy you are responding to and deny Scorcese’s achievements. But we can all admit that he was taking the piss a little bit with the Irishman. Its a movie in the MCU - the martin cinematic universe. He gathers his avengers (De Niro, Pesci, Keitel) for an ensemble film within the Gangster oeuvre. He defends this by insisting that he went through the motions of “establishing” an “emotional core” or whatever. But at the end of the day, it’s De Niro saying “c’mere, whassamatta” again. Brought to you by special effects.\n
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> Philistines\n
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This gives the game away, although I’m sure you were joking.\n
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Marty’s common refrain has been “there is an emotional core to this movie - we had a meeting!”\n
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Look, there is a business to high production films, and we have to accept that. Marty clearly has, has participated in it, and used his well earned artistic reputation to criticize it. Good stuff.
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I’m speaking specifically about the Irishman, a movie I love btw. But do I think it is more artistically “valid” than infinity war? No.\n
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It is less creatively “risky” than not doing another gangster film, thats simply a fact. And that’s okay. On some level, it is a “lets get the gang back together for one more ride” movie. On some level, all the players involved have certainly earned the right to do that. But it is odd to criticize studios for essentially taking the exact same approach to film making, especially for movies with massive commercial success - even if you argue that the quality of the art produced isn’t the same.\n
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Pacino’s role is a good example. He practically admitted that he was too old for the role off Jimmy Hoffa after filming, in multiple different interviews. So why was he chosen? You said it yourself - people want to see one of the most beloved Italian American gangster actors get directed by one one most beloved Italian American gangster directors. And you are a fanboy over it. And that is okay. I “forgive” you or whatever. I am too.\n
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It goes to show that formula film making can produce great films, and that the MCU movies that are bad (for many are fine films) aren’t bad because they are based on comic books, or because there is multiple of them. Comic books that were extremely artistic and considered important works of 20th century science fiction in their own right (talking about Jack Kirby specifically). I would argue that eventually the MCU did become a very cynical excercise that is determined *more* by studio number crunching. That happens for all sorts of reasons in Hollywood.
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I won’t be as crude as the guy you are responding to and deny Scorcese’s achievements. But we can all admit that he was taking the piss a little bit with the Irishman. Its a movie in the MCU - the martin cinematic universe. He gathers his avengers (De Niro, Pesci, Keitel) for an ensemble film within the Gangster oeuvre. He defends this by insisting that he went through the motions of “establishing” an “emotional core” or whatever. But at the end of the day, it’s De Niro saying “c’mere, whassamatta” again. Brought to you by special effects.\n
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> Philistines\n
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This gives the game away, although I’m sure you were joking.\n
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Marty’s common refrain has been “there is an emotional core to this movie - we had a meeting!”\n
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Look, there is a business to high production films, and we have to accept that. Marty clearly has, has participated in it, and used his well earned artistic reputation to criticize it. Good stuff.
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I’m speaking specifically about the Irishman, a movie I love btw. But do I think it is more artistically “valid” than infinity war? No.\n
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It is less creatively “risky” than not doing another gangster film, thats simply a fact. And that’s okay. On some level, it is a “lets get the gang back together for one more ride” movie. On some level, all the players involved have certainly earned the right to do that. But it is odd to criticize studios for essentially taking the exact same approach to film making, especially for movies with massive commercial success - even if you argue that the quality of the art produced isn’t the same.\n
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Pacino’s role is a good example. He practically admitted that he was too old for the role off Jimmy Hoffa after filming, in multiple different interviews. So why was he chosen? You said it yourself - people want to see one of the most beloved Italian American gangster actors get directed by one one most beloved Italian American gangster directors. And you are a fanboy over it. And that is okay. I “forgive” you or whatever. I am too.\n
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It goes to show that formula film making can produce great films, and that the MCU movies that are bad (for many are fine films) aren’t bad because they are based on comic books, or because there is multiple of them. Comic books that were extremely artistic and considered important works of 20th century science fiction in their own right (talking about Jack Kirby specifically). I would argue that eventually the MCU did become a very cynical excercise that is determined *more* by studio number crunching. That happens for all sorts of reasons in Hollywood.
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I won’t be as crude as the guy you are responding to and deny Scorcese’s achievements. But we can all admit that he was taking the piss a little bit with the Irishman. Its a movie in the MCU - the martin cinematic universe. He gathers his avengers (De Niro, Pesci, Keitel) for an ensemble film within the Gangster oeuvre. He defends this by insisting that he went through the motions of “establishing” an “emotional core” or whatever. But at the end of the day, it’s De Niro saying “c’mere, whassamatta” again. Brought to you by special effects.\n
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I personally think that there is nothing wrong with this, and Scorcese is a very saavy movie promoter to juxtapose how he makes films against the marvel method. But I do think that Marty is taking the piss just a little, even if it is in a pretty fun way.
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I’m speaking specifically about the Irishman, a movie I love btw. But do I think it is more artistically “valid” than infinity war? No.\n
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It is less creatively “risky” than not doing another gangster film, thats simply a fact. And that’s okay. On some level, it is a “lets get the gang back together for one more ride” movie. On some level, all the players involved have certainly earned the right to do that. But it is odd to criticize studios for essentially taking the exact same approach to film making, especially for movies with massive commercial success - even if you argue that the quality of the art produced isn’t the same.\n
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Pacino’s role is a good example. He practically admitted that he was too old for the role off Jimmy Hoffa after filming, in multiple different interviews. So why was he chosen? You said it yourself - people want to see one of the most beloved Italian American gangster actors get directed by one one most beloved Italian American gangster directors. And you are a fanboy over it. And that is okay. I “forgive” you or whatever. I am too.\n
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It goes to show that formula film making can produce great films, and that the MCU movies that are bad (for many are fine films) aren’t bad because they are based on comic books, or because there is multiple of them. Comic books that were extremely artistic and considered important works of 20th century science fiction in their own right (talking about Jack Kirby specifically). I would argue that eventually the MCU did become a very cynical excercise that is determined *more* by studio number crunching. That happens for all sorts of reasons in Hollywood.
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I won’t be as crude as the guy you are responding to and deny Scorcese’s achievements. But we can all admit that he was taking the piss a little bit with the Irishman. Its a movie in the MCU - the martin cinematic universe. He gathers his avengers (De Niro, Pesci, Keitel) for an ensemble film within the Gangster oeuvre. He defends this by insisting that he went through the motions of “establishing” an “emotional core” or whatever. But at the end of the day, it’s De Niro saying “c’mere, whassamatta” again. Brought to you by special effects.\n
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I personally think that there is nothing wrong with this, and Scorcese is a very saavy movie promoter to juxtapose how he makes films against the marvel method. But I do think that Marty is taking the piss just a little, even if it is in a pretty fun way.
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> Philistines\n
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This gives the game away, although I’m sure you were joking.\n
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Marty’s common refrain has been “there is an emotional core to this movie - we had a meeting!”\n
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Look, there is a business to high production films, and we have to accept that. Marty clearly has, has participated in it, and used his well earned artistic reputation to criticize it. Good stuff.
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I’m speaking specifically about the Irishman, a movie I love btw. But do I think it is more artistically “valid” than infinity war? No.\n
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It is less creatively “risky” than not doing another gangster film, thats simply a fact. And that’s okay. On some level, it is a “lets get the gang back together for one more ride” movie. On some level, all the players involved have certainly earned the right to do that. But it is odd to criticize studios for essentially taking the exact same approach to film making, especially for movies with massive commercial success - even if you argue that the quality of the art produced isn’t the same.\n
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Pacino’s role is a good example. He practically admitted that he was too old for the role off Jimmy Hoffa after filming, in multiple different interviews. So why was he chosen? You said it yourself - people want to see one of the most beloved Italian American gangster actors get directed by one one most beloved Italian American gangster directors. And you are a fanboy over it. And that is okay. I “forgive” you or whatever. I am too.\n
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It goes to show that formula film making can produce great films, and that the MCU movies that are bad (for many are fine films) aren’t bad because they are based on comic books, or because there is multiple of them. Comic books that were extremely artistic and considered important works of 20th century science fiction in their own right (talking about Jack Kirby specifically). I would argue that eventually the MCU did become a very cynical excercise that is determined *more* by studio number crunching. That happens for all sorts of reasons in Hollywood.
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I won’t be as crude as the guy you are responding to and deny Scorcese’s achievements. But we can all admit that he was taking the piss a little bit with the Irishman. Its a movie in the MCU - the martin cinematic universe. He gathers his avengers (De Niro, Pesci, Keitel) for an ensemble film within the Gangster oeuvre. He defends this by insisting that he went through the motions of “establishing” an “emotional core” or whatever. But at the end of the day, it’s De Niro saying “c’mere, whassamatta” again. Brought to you by special effects.\n
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> Philistines\n
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This gives the game away, although I’m sure you were joking.\n
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I’m speaking specifically about the Irishman, a movie I love btw. But do I think it is more artistically “valid” than infinity war? No.\n
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It is less creatively “risky” than not doing another gangster film, thats simply a fact. And that’s okay. On some level, it is a “lets get the gang back together for one more ride” movie. On some level, all the players involved have certainly earned the right to do that. But it is odd to criticize studios for essentially taking the exact same approach to film making, especially for movies with massive commercial success - even if you argue that the quality of the art produced isn’t the same.\n
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Pacino’s role is a good example. He practically admitted that he was too old for the role off Jimmy Hoffa after filming, in multiple different interviews. So why was he chosen? You said it yourself - people want to see one of the most beloved Italian American gangster actors get directed by one one most beloved Italian American gangster directors. And you are a fanboy over it. And that is okay. I “forgive” you or whatever. I am too.\n
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It goes to show that formula film making can produce great films, and that the MCU movies that are bad (for many are fine films) aren’t bad because they are based on comic books, or because there is multiple of them. Comic books that were extremely artistic and considered important works of 20th century science fiction in their own right (talking about Jack Kirby specifically). I would argue that eventually the MCU did become a very cynical excercise that is determined *more* by studio number crunching. That happens for all sorts of reasons in Hollywood.
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I won’t be as crude as the guy you are responding to and deny Scorcese’s achievements. But we can all admit that he was taking the piss a little bit with the Irishman. Its a movie in the MCU - the martin cinematic universe. He gathers his avengers (De Niro, Pesci, Keitel) for an ensemble film within the Gangster oeuvre. He defends this by insisting that he went through the motions of “establishing” an “emotional core” or whatever. But at the end of the day, it’s De Niro saying “c’mere, whassamatta” again. Brought to you by special effects.\n
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> Philistines\n
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This gives the game away, although I’m sure you were joking.\n
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Marty’s common refrain has been “there is an emotional core to this movie - we had a meeting!”\n
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Look, there is a business to high production films, and we have to accept that. Marty clearly has, has participated in it, and used his well earned artistic reputation to criticize it. Good stuff.
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> Philistines\n
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This gives the game away, although I’m sure you were joking.\n
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Marty’s common refrain has been “there is an emotional core to this movie - we had a meeting!”\n
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I’m speaking specifically about the Irishman, a movie I love btw. But do I think it is more artistically “valid” than infinity war? No.\n
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It is less creatively “risky” than not doing another gangster film, thats simply a fact. And that’s okay. On some level, it is a “lets get the gang back together for one more ride” movie. On some level, all the players involved have certainly earned the right to do that. But it is odd to criticize studios for essentially taking the exact same approach to film making, especially for movies with massive commercial success - even if you argue that the quality of the art produced isn’t the same.\n
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Pacino’s role is a good example. He practically admitted that he was too old for the role off Jimmy Hoffa after filming, in multiple different interviews. So why was he chosen? You said it yourself - people want to see one of the most beloved Italian American gangster actors get directed by one one most beloved Italian American gangster directors. And you are a fanboy over it. And that is okay. I “forgive” you or whatever. I am too.\n
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It goes to show that formula film making can produce great films, and that the MCU movies that are bad (for many are fine films) aren’t bad because they are based on comic books, or because there is multiple of them. Comic books that were extremely artistic and considered important works of 20th century science fiction in their own right (talking about Jack Kirby specifically). I would argue that eventually the MCU did become a very cynical excercise that is determined *more* by studio number crunching. That happens for all sorts of reasons in Hollywood.
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I won’t be as crude as the guy you are responding to and deny Scorcese’s achievements. But we can all admit that he was taking the piss a little bit with the Irishman. Its a movie in the MCU - the martin cinematic universe. He gathers his avengers (De Niro, Pesci, Keitel) for an ensemble film within the Gangster oeuvre. He defends this by insisting that he went through the motions of “establishing” an “emotional core” or whatever. But at the end of the day, it’s De Niro saying “c’mere, whassamatta” again. Brought to you by special effects.\n
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> Philistines\n
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This gives the game away, although I’m sure you were joking.\n
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Marty’s common refrain has been “there is an emotional core to this movie - we had a meeting!”\n
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Look, there is a business to high production films, and we have to accept that. Marty clearly has, has participated in it, and used his well earned artistic reputation to criticize it. Good stuff.
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I’m speaking specifically about the Irishman, a movie I love btw. But do I think it is more artistically “valid” than infinity war? No.\n
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It is less creatively “risky” than not doing another gangster film, thats simply a fact. And that’s okay. On some level, it is a “lets get the gang back together for one more ride” movie. On some level, all the players involved have certainly earned the right to do that. But it is odd to criticize studios for essentially taking the exact same approach to film making, especially for movies with massive commercial success - even if you argue that the quality of the art produced isn’t the same.\n
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Pacino’s role is a good example. He practically admitted that he was too old for the role off Jimmy Hoffa after filming, in multiple different interviews. So why was he chosen? You said it yourself - people want to see one of the most beloved Italian American gangster actors get directed by one one most beloved Italian American gangster directors. And you are a fanboy over it. And that is okay. I “forgive” you or whatever. I am too.\n
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It goes to show that formula film making can produce great films, and that the MCU movies that are bad (for many are fine films) aren’t bad because they are based on comic books, or because there is multiple of them. Comic books that were extremely artistic and considered important works of 20th century science fiction in their own right (talking about Jack Kirby specifically). I would argue that eventually the MCU did become a very cynical excercise that is determined *more* by studio number crunching. That happens for all sorts of reasons in Hollywood.
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I won’t be as crude as the guy you are responding to and deny Scorcese’s achievements. But we can all admit that he was taking the piss a little bit with the Irishman. Its a movie in the MCU - the martin cinematic universe. He gathers his avengers (De Niro, Pesci, Keitel) for an ensemble film within the Gangster oeuvre. He defends this by insisting that he went through the motions of “establishing” an “emotional core” or whatever. But at the end of the day, it’s De Niro saying “c’mere, whassamatta” again. Brought to you by special effects.\n
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> Philistines\n
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This gives the game away, although I’m sure you were joking.\n
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Marty’s common refrain has been “there is an emotional core to this movie - we had a meeting!”\n
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I’m speaking specifically about the Irishman, a movie I love btw. But do I think it is more artistically “valid” than infinity war? No.\n
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It is less creatively “risky” than not doing another gangster film, thats simply a fact. And that’s okay. On some level, it is a “lets get the gang back together for one more ride” movie. On some level, all the players involved have certainly earned the right to do that. But it is odd to criticize studios for essentially taking the exact same approach to film making, especially for movies with massive commercial success - even if you argue that the quality of the art produced isn’t the same.\n
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Pacino’s role is a good example. He practically admitted that he was too old for the role off Jimmy Hoffa after filming, in multiple different interviews. So why was he chosen? You said it yourself - people want to see one of the most beloved Italian American gangster actors get directed by one one most beloved Italian American gangster directors. And you are a fanboy over it. And that is okay. I “forgive” you or whatever. I am too.\n
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It goes to show that formula film making can produce great films, and that the MCU movies that are bad (for many are fine films) aren’t bad because they are based on comic books, or because there is multiple of them. Comic books that were extremely artistic and considered important works of 20th century science fiction in their own right (talking about Jack Kirby specifically). I would argue that eventually the MCU did become a very cynical excercise that is determined *more* by studio number crunching. That happens for all sorts of reasons in Hollywood.
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I won’t be as crude as the guy you are responding to and deny Scorcese’s achievements. But we can all admit that he was taking the piss a little bit with the Irishman. Its a movie in the MCU - the martin cinematic universe. He gathers his avengers (De Niro, Pesci, Keitel) for an ensemble film within the Gangster oeuvre. He defends this by insisting that he went through the motions of “establishing” an “emotional core” or whatever. But at the end of the day, it’s De Niro saying “c’mere, whassamatta” again. Brought to you by special effects.\n
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> Philistines\n
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This gives the game away, although I’m sure you were joking.\n
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Marty’s common refrain has been “there is an emotional core to this movie - we had a meeting!”\n
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Look, there is a business to high production films, and we have to accept that. Marty clearly has, has participated in it, and used his well earned artistic reputation to criticize it. Good stuff.
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I won’t be as crude as the guy you are responding to and deny Scorcese’s achievements. But we can all admit that he was taking the piss a little bit with the Irishman. Its a movie in the MCU - the martin cinematic universe. He gathers his avengers (De Niro, Pesci, Keitel) for an ensemble film within the Gangster oeuvre. He defends this by insisting that he went through the motions of “establishing” an “emotional core” or whatever. But at the end of the day, it’s De Niro saying “c’mere, whassamatta” again. Brought to you by special effects.\n
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I’m speaking specifically about the Irishman, a movie I love btw. But do I think it is more artistically “valid” than infinity war? No.\n
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It is less creatively “risky” than not doing another gangster film, thats simply a fact. And that’s okay. On some level, it is a “lets get the gang back together for one more ride” movie. On some level, all the players involved have certainly earned the right to do that. But it is odd to criticize studios for essentially taking the exact same approach to film making, especially for movies with massive commercial success - even if you argue that the quality of the art produced isn’t the same.\n
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Pacino’s role is a good example. He practically admitted that he was too old for the role off Jimmy Hoffa after filming, in multiple different interviews. So why was he chosen? You said it yourself - people want to see one of the most beloved Italian American gangster actors get directed by one one most beloved Italian American gangster directors. And you are a fanboy over it. And that is okay. I “forgive” you or whatever. I am too.\n
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It goes to show that formula film making can produce great films, and that the MCU movies that are bad (for many are fine films) aren’t bad because they are based on comic books, or because there is multiple of them. Comic books that were extremely artistic and considered important works of 20th century science fiction in their own right (talking about Jack Kirby specifically). I would argue that eventually the MCU did become a very cynical excercise that is determined *more* by studio number crunching. That happens for all sorts of reasons in Hollywood.
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> Philistines\n
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This gives the game away, although I’m sure you were joking.\n
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Marty’s common refrain has been “there is an emotional core to this movie - we had a meeting!”\n
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I won’t be as crude as the guy you are responding to and deny Scorcese’s achievements. But we can all admit that he was taking the piss a little bit with the Irishman. Its a movie in the MCU - the martin cinematic universe. He gathers his avengers (De Niro, Pesci, Keitel) for an ensemble film within the Gangster oeuvre. He defends this by insisting that he went through the motions of “establishing” an “emotional core” or whatever. But at the end of the day, it’s De Niro saying “c’mere, whassamatta” again. Brought to you by special effects.\n
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I’m speaking specifically about the Irishman, a movie I love btw. But do I think it is more artistically “valid” than infinity war? No.\n
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It is less creatively “risky” than not doing another gangster film, thats simply a fact. And that’s okay. On some level, it is a “lets get the gang back together for one more ride” movie. On some level, all the players involved have certainly earned the right to do that. But it is odd to criticize studios for essentially taking the exact same approach to film making, especially for movies with massive commercial success - even if you argue that the quality of the art produced isn’t the same.\n
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Pacino’s role is a good example. He practically admitted that he was too old for the role off Jimmy Hoffa after filming, in multiple different interviews. So why was he chosen? You said it yourself - people want to see one of the most beloved Italian American gangster actors get directed by one one most beloved Italian American gangster directors. And you are a fanboy over it. And that is okay. I “forgive” you or whatever. I am too.\n
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It goes to show that formula film making can produce great films, and that the MCU movies that are bad (for many are fine films) aren’t bad because they are based on comic books, or because there is multiple of them. Comic books that were extremely artistic and considered important works of 20th century science fiction in their own right (talking about Jack Kirby specifically). I would argue that eventually the MCU did become a very cynical excercise that is determined *more* by studio number crunching. That happens for all sorts of reasons in Hollywood.
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> Philistines\n
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This gives the game away, although I’m sure you were joking.\n
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Marty’s common refrain has been “there is an emotional core to this movie - we had a meeting!”\n
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I won’t be as crude as the guy you are responding to and deny Scorcese’s achievements. But we can all admit that he was taking the piss a little bit with the Irishman. Its a movie in the MCU - the martin cinematic universe. He gathers his avengers (De Niro, Pesci, Keitel) for an ensemble film within the Gangster oeuvre. He defends this by insisting that he went through the motions of “establishing” an “emotional core” or whatever. But at the end of the day, it’s De Niro saying “c’mere, whassamatta” again. Brought to you by special effects.\n
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I personally think that there is nothing wrong with this, and Scorcese is a very saavy movie promoter to juxtapose how he makes films against the marvel method. But I do think that Marty is taking the piss just a little, even if it is in a pretty fun way.
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I’m speaking specifically about the Irishman, a movie I love btw. But do I think it is more artistically “valid” than infinity war? No.\n
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It is less creatively “risky” than not doing another gangster film, thats simply a fact. And that’s okay. On some level, it is a “lets get the gang back together for one more ride” movie. On some level, all the players involved have certainly earned the right to do that. But it is odd to criticize studios for essentially taking the exact same approach to film making, especially for movies with massive commercial success - even if you argue that the quality of the art produced isn’t the same.\n
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It goes to show that formula film making can produce great films, and that the MCU movies that are bad (for many are fine films) aren’t bad because they are based on comic books, or because there is multiple of them. Comic books that were extremely artistic and considered important works of 20th century science fiction in their own right (talking about Jack Kirby specifically). I would argue that eventually the MCU did become a very cynical excercise that is determined *more* by studio number crunching. That happens for all sorts of reasons in Hollywood.
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> Philistines\n
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This gives the game away, although I’m sure you were joking.\n
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Marty’s common refrain has been “there is an emotional core to this movie - we had a meeting!”\n
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I’m speaking specifically about the Irishman, a movie I love btw. But do I think it is more artistically “valid” than infinity war? No.\n
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I won’t be as crude as the guy you are responding to and deny Scorcese’s achievements. But we can all admit that he was taking the piss a little bit with the Irishman. Its a movie in the MCU - the martin cinematic universe. He gathers his avengers (De Niro, Pesci, Keitel) for an ensemble film within the Gangster oeuvre. He defends this by insisting that he went through the motions of “establishing” an “emotional core” or whatever. But at the end of the day, it’s De Niro saying “c’mere, whassamatta” again. Brought to you by special effects.\n
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> Philistines\n
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This gives the game away, although I’m sure you were joking.\n
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I’m speaking specifically about the Irishman, a movie I love btw. But do I think it is more artistically “valid” than infinity war? No.\n
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It is less creatively “risky” than not doing another gangster film, thats simply a fact. And that’s okay. On some level, it is a “lets get the gang back together for one more ride” movie. On some level, all the players involved have certainly earned the right to do that. But it is odd to criticize studios for essentially taking the exact same approach to film making, especially for movies with massive commercial success - even if you argue that the quality of the art produced isn’t the same.\n
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Pacino’s role is a good example. He practically admitted that he was too old for the role off Jimmy Hoffa after filming, in multiple different interviews. So why was he chosen? You said it yourself - people want to see one of the most beloved Italian American gangster actors get directed by one one most beloved Italian American gangster directors. And you are a fanboy over it. And that is okay. I “forgive” you or whatever. I am too.\n
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It goes to show that formula film making can produce great films, and that the MCU movies that are bad (for many are fine films) aren’t bad because they are based on comic books, or because there is multiple of them. Comic books that were extremely artistic and considered important works of 20th century science fiction in their own right (talking about Jack Kirby specifically). I would argue that eventually the MCU did become a very cynical excercise that is determined *more* by studio number crunching. That happens for all sorts of reasons in Hollywood.
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I won’t be as crude as the guy you are responding to and deny Scorcese’s achievements. But we can all admit that he was taking the piss a little bit with the Irishman. Its a movie in the MCU - the martin cinematic universe. He gathers his avengers (De Niro, Pesci, Keitel) for an ensemble film within the Gangster oeuvre. He defends this by insisting that he went through the motions of “establishing” an “emotional core” or whatever. But at the end of the day, it’s De Niro saying “c’mere, whassamatta” again. Brought to you by special effects.\n
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> Philistines\n
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This gives the game away, although I’m sure you were joking.\n
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Marty’s common refrain has been “there is an emotional core to this movie - we had a meeting!”\n
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Look, there is a business to high production films, and we have to accept that. Marty clearly has, has participated in it, and used his well earned artistic reputation to criticize it. Good stuff.
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I’m speaking specifically about the Irishman, a movie I love btw. But do I think it is more artistically “valid” than infinity war? No.\n
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It is less creatively “risky” than not doing another gangster film, thats simply a fact. And that’s okay. On some level, it is a “lets get the gang back together for one more ride” movie. On some level, all the players involved have certainly earned the right to do that. But it is odd to criticize studios for essentially taking the exact same approach to film making, especially for movies with massive commercial success - even if you argue that the quality of the art produced isn’t the same.\n
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Pacino’s role is a good example. He practically admitted that he was too old for the role off Jimmy Hoffa after filming, in multiple different interviews. So why was he chosen? You said it yourself - people want to see one of the most beloved Italian American gangster actors get directed by one one most beloved Italian American gangster directors. And you are a fanboy over it. And that is okay. I “forgive” you or whatever. I am too.\n
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It goes to show that formula film making can produce great films, and that the MCU movies that are bad (for many are fine films) aren’t bad because they are based on comic books, or because there is multiple of them. Comic books that were extremely artistic and considered important works of 20th century science fiction in their own right (talking about Jack Kirby specifically). I would argue that eventually the MCU did become a very cynical excercise that is determined *more* by studio number crunching. That happens for all sorts of reasons in Hollywood.
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I won’t be as crude as the guy you are responding to and deny Scorcese’s achievements. But we can all admit that he was taking the piss a little bit with the Irishman. Its a movie in the MCU - the martin cinematic universe. He gathers his avengers (De Niro, Pesci, Keitel) for an ensemble film within the Gangster oeuvre. He defends this by insisting that he went through the motions of “establishing” an “emotional core” or whatever. But at the end of the day, it’s De Niro saying “c’mere, whassamatta” again. Brought to you by special effects.\n
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