GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/m/privacy@lemmy.ml/comments?p=92

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.21
Profiled on
Token
2ac93b

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
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authenticators 
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
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Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
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Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
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Authenticators

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Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
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2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
      \n
      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
      \n
      In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
      \n
      ### Some Rules\n
      \n
      - Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post\n
      - Don’t promote proprietary software\n
      - Try to keep things on topic\n
      - If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered\n
      - Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience\n
      - Be nice :)\n
      \n
      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
      """
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    I’ve been using Thorium recently with no issues. Before I was using Vivaldi.\n
    \n
    Edit, Firefox is my main browser. Thorium is used as an alt for the 2 websites that don’t work in Firefox.\n
    \n
    Edit 2; seems the developer of Thorium has made some err questionable choices. Not with the browser itself, but a mild furry nsfw easter egg, and a link to some site talking about their beliefs against a common medical procedure performed on baby boys. I have not seen either for myself as they have both been removed as the browser gained a sudden spike in popularity.
    """
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"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
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  +user: App\Entity\User {#1457 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1738 …}
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    +name: "privacy@lemmy.ml"
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
      \n
      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
      \n
      In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
      \n
      ### Some Rules\n
      \n
      - Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post\n
      - Don’t promote proprietary software\n
      - Try to keep things on topic\n
      - If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered\n
      - Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience\n
      - Be nice :)\n
      \n
      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
      """
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    I’ve been using Thorium recently with no issues. Before I was using Vivaldi.\n
    \n
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    \n
    Edit 2; seems the developer of Thorium has made some err questionable choices. Not with the browser itself, but a mild furry nsfw easter egg, and a link to some site talking about their beliefs against a common medical procedure performed on baby boys. I have not seen either for myself as they have both been removed as the browser gained a sudden spike in popularity.
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
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  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#1738 …}
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
      \n
      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
      \n
      In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
      \n
      ### Some Rules\n
      \n
      - Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post\n
      - Don’t promote proprietary software\n
      - Try to keep things on topic\n
      - If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered\n
      - Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience\n
      - Be nice :)\n
      \n
      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
      """
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    I’ve been using Thorium recently with no issues. Before I was using Vivaldi.\n
    \n
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    \n
    Edit 2; seems the developer of Thorium has made some err questionable choices. Not with the browser itself, but a mild furry nsfw easter egg, and a link to some site talking about their beliefs against a common medical procedure performed on baby boys. I have not seen either for myself as they have both been removed as the browser gained a sudden spike in popularity.
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      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
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            - not sandboxed\n
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            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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            The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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          They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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                - not sandboxed\n
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                [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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            They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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        Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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    No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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    I highly advise against Appimages. Flatpak is only useful if you dont trust the app which is a valid opinion, but poorly then the browser cant sandbox websites on its own. So native packages are the best option for security it you trust the browser.\n
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                - not sandboxed\n
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                [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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              The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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            They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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        Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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    No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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                - not sandboxed\n
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                [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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              The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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            They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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        Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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    No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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                  - not sandboxed\n
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                The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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                Yea I don’t know a better one yet
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          Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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      No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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                The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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          Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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      No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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                  - not sandboxed\n
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              They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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          Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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          Depending on the Distro I recommend using Firefox or Brave, add their signed repo and call it a day.
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      No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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      I highly advise against Appimages. Flatpak is only useful if you dont trust the app which is a valid opinion, but poorly then the browser cant sandbox websites on its own. So native packages are the best option for security it you trust the browser.\n
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      Perfect would be to have the browser isolated and also using its sandbox to isolate websites from each other. I dont know if this works though, on Android it does (not with Firefox poorly as they didnt implement it)
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                    - not sandboxed\n
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                    [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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                  The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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                  Yea I don’t know a better one yet
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                They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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            Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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                    - not sandboxed\n
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                They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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            Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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        No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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        Perfect would be to have the browser isolated and also using its sandbox to isolate websites from each other. I dont know if this works though, on Android it does (not with Firefox poorly as they didnt implement it)
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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                    - not sandboxed\n
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                    [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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                  The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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                  Yea I don’t know a better one yet
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                They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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                In theory there is even the ability to store a chrome:flags override and use it like a user.js. So you could use upstream chromium and not rely on outdated stuff.
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            Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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            Depending on the Distro I recommend using Firefox or Brave, add their signed repo and call it a day.
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        No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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        I highly advise against Appimages. Flatpak is only useful if you dont trust the app which is a valid opinion, but poorly then the browser cant sandbox websites on its own. So native packages are the best option for security it you trust the browser.\n
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        Perfect would be to have the browser isolated and also using its sandbox to isolate websites from each other. I dont know if this works though, on Android it does (not with Firefox poorly as they didnt implement it)
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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                      - not sandboxed\n
                      - no repo, no updates, always the risk of malware\n
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                      [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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                    The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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                    Yea I don’t know a better one yet
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                  They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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              Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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                      - not sandboxed\n
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                      [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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                    The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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                  They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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              Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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                    The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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                    Yea I don’t know a better one yet
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                  They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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                  In theory there is even the ability to store a chrome:flags override and use it like a user.js. So you could use upstream chromium and not rely on outdated stuff.
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              Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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              Depending on the Distro I recommend using Firefox or Brave, add their signed repo and call it a day.
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          No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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          Perfect would be to have the browser isolated and also using its sandbox to isolate websites from each other. I dont know if this works though, on Android it does (not with Firefox poorly as they didnt implement it)
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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                        - not sandboxed\n
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                        - outdated version\n
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                        [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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                      The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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                      Yea I don’t know a better one yet
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                    They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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                    In theory there is even the ability to store a chrome:flags override and use it like a user.js. So you could use upstream chromium and not rely on outdated stuff.
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                Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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            No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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            Perfect would be to have the browser isolated and also using its sandbox to isolate websites from each other. I dont know if this works though, on Android it does (not with Firefox poorly as they didnt implement it)
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      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                        - not sandboxed\n
                        - no repo, no updates, always the risk of malware\n
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                        - outdated version\n
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                        [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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                      The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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                      Yea I don’t know a better one yet
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                    They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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                    In theory there is even the ability to store a chrome:flags override and use it like a user.js. So you could use upstream chromium and not rely on outdated stuff.
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                Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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                Depending on the Distro I recommend using Firefox or Brave, add their signed repo and call it a day.
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            No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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            Perfect would be to have the browser isolated and also using its sandbox to isolate websites from each other. I dont know if this works though, on Android it does (not with Firefox poorly as they didnt implement it)
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
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      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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      In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
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      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                        +body: "I’m currently using thorium as an appimage and it is god enough. But to be honest if you want privacy use Firefox or a fork of it."
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                        - not sandboxed\n
                        - no repo, no updates, always the risk of malware\n
                        - not hardened\n
                        - outdated version\n
                        \n
                        [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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                      The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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                      Yea I don’t know a better one yet
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                    They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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                    In theory there is even the ability to store a chrome:flags override and use it like a user.js. So you could use upstream chromium and not rely on outdated stuff.
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                +body: "I will try it out after work. Do you know a way to provent automatic openings instead of librewolf? I’m currently using Hyprland and was using the appimage so it doesn’t have any conflicts."
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                Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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                Depending on the Distro I recommend using Firefox or Brave, add their signed repo and call it a day.
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            +body: "Exactly default browser. Yes I tryed native and flatpak packages but it would constantly open all other browser instead of librewolf. Even if I defined a other one in the mineapps file"
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            No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
            \n
            I highly advise against Appimages. Flatpak is only useful if you dont trust the app which is a valid opinion, but poorly then the browser cant sandbox websites on its own. So native packages are the best option for security it you trust the browser.\n
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            Perfect would be to have the browser isolated and also using its sandbox to isolate websites from each other. I dont know if this works though, on Android it does (not with Firefox poorly as they didnt implement it)
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        +body: "So one vor two days later anx I can say now that I switch from thorium to ungoogled chromium Wayland. Didn’t have issues with defaults and yea its pretty much the same"
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      +body: "Cool! Brave is best for fingerprinting protection, the pretty much plain Chromiums dont really have that."
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    +body: "Couldn’t an extention fix this like canvasfinger or privacy badger?"
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      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                          +body: "I’m currently using thorium as an appimage and it is god enough. But to be honest if you want privacy use Firefox or a fork of it."
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                          - not sandboxed\n
                          - no repo, no updates, always the risk of malware\n
                          - not hardened\n
                          - outdated version\n
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                          [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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                        The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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                        Yea I don’t know a better one yet
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                      They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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                      In theory there is even the ability to store a chrome:flags override and use it like a user.js. So you could use upstream chromium and not rely on outdated stuff.
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                  +body: "I will try it out after work. Do you know a way to provent automatic openings instead of librewolf? I’m currently using Hyprland and was using the appimage so it doesn’t have any conflicts."
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                  Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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                  Depending on the Distro I recommend using Firefox or Brave, add their signed repo and call it a day.
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              +body: "Exactly default browser. Yes I tryed native and flatpak packages but it would constantly open all other browser instead of librewolf. Even if I defined a other one in the mineapps file"
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              No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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              I highly advise against Appimages. Flatpak is only useful if you dont trust the app which is a valid opinion, but poorly then the browser cant sandbox websites on its own. So native packages are the best option for security it you trust the browser.\n
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              Perfect would be to have the browser isolated and also using its sandbox to isolate websites from each other. I dont know if this works though, on Android it does (not with Firefox poorly as they didnt implement it)
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      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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                          - not sandboxed\n
                          - no repo, no updates, always the risk of malware\n
                          - not hardened\n
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                          [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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                        The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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                        Yea I don’t know a better one yet
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                      They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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                      In theory there is even the ability to store a chrome:flags override and use it like a user.js. So you could use upstream chromium and not rely on outdated stuff.
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                  Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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                  Depending on the Distro I recommend using Firefox or Brave, add their signed repo and call it a day.
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              +body: "Exactly default browser. Yes I tryed native and flatpak packages but it would constantly open all other browser instead of librewolf. Even if I defined a other one in the mineapps file"
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              No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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              I highly advise against Appimages. Flatpak is only useful if you dont trust the app which is a valid opinion, but poorly then the browser cant sandbox websites on its own. So native packages are the best option for security it you trust the browser.\n
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              Perfect would be to have the browser isolated and also using its sandbox to isolate websites from each other. I dont know if this works though, on Android it does (not with Firefox poorly as they didnt implement it)
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                          - not sandboxed\n
                          - no repo, no updates, always the risk of malware\n
                          - not hardened\n
                          - outdated version\n
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                          [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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                        The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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                        Yea I don’t know a better one yet
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                      They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
                      \n
                      In theory there is even the ability to store a chrome:flags override and use it like a user.js. So you could use upstream chromium and not rely on outdated stuff.
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                  +body: "I will try it out after work. Do you know a way to provent automatic openings instead of librewolf? I’m currently using Hyprland and was using the appimage so it doesn’t have any conflicts."
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                  Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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                  Depending on the Distro I recommend using Firefox or Brave, add their signed repo and call it a day.
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              +body: "Exactly default browser. Yes I tryed native and flatpak packages but it would constantly open all other browser instead of librewolf. Even if I defined a other one in the mineapps file"
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              No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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              I highly advise against Appimages. Flatpak is only useful if you dont trust the app which is a valid opinion, but poorly then the browser cant sandbox websites on its own. So native packages are the best option for security it you trust the browser.\n
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              Perfect would be to have the browser isolated and also using its sandbox to isolate websites from each other. I dont know if this works though, on Android it does (not with Firefox poorly as they didnt implement it)
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                            +body: "I’m currently using thorium as an appimage and it is god enough. But to be honest if you want privacy use Firefox or a fork of it."
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                            - not sandboxed\n
                            - no repo, no updates, always the risk of malware\n
                            - not hardened\n
                            - outdated version\n
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                            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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                          The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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                          Yea I don’t know a better one yet
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                        They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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                        In theory there is even the ability to store a chrome:flags override and use it like a user.js. So you could use upstream chromium and not rely on outdated stuff.
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                    +body: "I will try it out after work. Do you know a way to provent automatic openings instead of librewolf? I’m currently using Hyprland and was using the appimage so it doesn’t have any conflicts."
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                    Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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                    Depending on the Distro I recommend using Firefox or Brave, add their signed repo and call it a day.
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                +body: "Exactly default browser. Yes I tryed native and flatpak packages but it would constantly open all other browser instead of librewolf. Even if I defined a other one in the mineapps file"
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                No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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                I highly advise against Appimages. Flatpak is only useful if you dont trust the app which is a valid opinion, but poorly then the browser cant sandbox websites on its own. So native packages are the best option for security it you trust the browser.\n
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                Perfect would be to have the browser isolated and also using its sandbox to isolate websites from each other. I dont know if this works though, on Android it does (not with Firefox poorly as they didnt implement it)
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    +body: "Yea I can do that. I mean it will take a time but it should be possible. Tbh just don’t wanna use brave. www.deviceinfo.me is a hood site for checking how hard you browser i s hardened"
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    Thats most often privacy improvements and not hardening, two different things.\n
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    I dont wanna use Chromium, but if I would, I would use Brave.
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
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      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                            +body: "I’m currently using thorium as an appimage and it is god enough. But to be honest if you want privacy use Firefox or a fork of it."
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                            - not sandboxed\n
                            - no repo, no updates, always the risk of malware\n
                            - not hardened\n
                            - outdated version\n
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                            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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                          The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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                          Yea I don’t know a better one yet
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                        They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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                        In theory there is even the ability to store a chrome:flags override and use it like a user.js. So you could use upstream chromium and not rely on outdated stuff.
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                    +body: "I will try it out after work. Do you know a way to provent automatic openings instead of librewolf? I’m currently using Hyprland and was using the appimage so it doesn’t have any conflicts."
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                    Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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                    Depending on the Distro I recommend using Firefox or Brave, add their signed repo and call it a day.
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                +body: "Exactly default browser. Yes I tryed native and flatpak packages but it would constantly open all other browser instead of librewolf. Even if I defined a other one in the mineapps file"
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                No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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                I highly advise against Appimages. Flatpak is only useful if you dont trust the app which is a valid opinion, but poorly then the browser cant sandbox websites on its own. So native packages are the best option for security it you trust the browser.\n
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                Perfect would be to have the browser isolated and also using its sandbox to isolate websites from each other. I dont know if this works though, on Android it does (not with Firefox poorly as they didnt implement it)
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    Thats most often privacy improvements and not hardening, two different things.\n
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    I dont wanna use Chromium, but if I would, I would use Brave.
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                            - not sandboxed\n
                            - no repo, no updates, always the risk of malware\n
                            - not hardened\n
                            - outdated version\n
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                            [www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR-dhc_SWBk)
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                          The point of useing it is that privacy invasive sites like twitch or skribbl.io would still work. Twitch technicality works fine on stock Firefox unless you don’t save your history, how dare you.\n
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                          Yea I don’t know a better one yet
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                        They will work on ungoogled chromium too though, I guess.\n
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                        In theory there is even the ability to store a chrome:flags override and use it like a user.js. So you could use upstream chromium and not rely on outdated stuff.
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                    Automatic openings? Like default Webbrowser? Also dont use Appimages, just dont.\n
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                    Depending on the Distro I recommend using Firefox or Brave, add their signed repo and call it a day.
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                +body: "Exactly default browser. Yes I tryed native and flatpak packages but it would constantly open all other browser instead of librewolf. Even if I defined a other one in the mineapps file"
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                No default browser works normally but no idea how to set that in Hyprland.\n
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                I highly advise against Appimages. Flatpak is only useful if you dont trust the app which is a valid opinion, but poorly then the browser cant sandbox websites on its own. So native packages are the best option for security it you trust the browser.\n
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                Perfect would be to have the browser isolated and also using its sandbox to isolate websites from each other. I dont know if this works though, on Android it does (not with Firefox poorly as they didnt implement it)
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    Thats most often privacy improvements and not hardening, two different things.\n
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    I dont wanna use Chromium, but if I would, I would use Brave.
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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      No, it isn’t, try and see it yourself.\n
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      [vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-open-source/](https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-open-source/)
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      [vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-open-source/](https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-open-source/)
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      Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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    FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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      Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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    FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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      Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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    FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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    FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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    Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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            +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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        +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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        Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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      FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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      Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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      \n
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      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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            +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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        +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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        Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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        Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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      FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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      I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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      Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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      FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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      Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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      \n
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      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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            +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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        +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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        Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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        Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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      FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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      I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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      FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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      Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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              +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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          +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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          Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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          Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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        FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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        I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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        Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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        FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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        Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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    ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
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    - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
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    - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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              +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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          +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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          Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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          Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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        FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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        I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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        FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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        Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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    - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
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    - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
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    ![](https://file.coffee/u/dbefx1DVnayc9JthbRp1Z.png)\n
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    - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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              +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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          +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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          Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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          Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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        FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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        I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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        FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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        Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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    ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
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    - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
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    - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
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    - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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              +body: "Yeah, but it is closed sourced."
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            +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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            Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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            Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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          FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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          FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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          Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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      ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
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      - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
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      - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
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      ![](https://file.coffee/u/dbefx1DVnayc9JthbRp1Z.png)\n
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      - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
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    Good website! Mozilla.org is not used by the browser though\n
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    [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org)\n
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    So far I cant reproduce that?
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      ============================================================\n
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      - Be nice :)\n
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      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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            +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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            Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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            Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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          FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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          I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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          Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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          FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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          Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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      ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
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      - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
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      ![](https://file.coffee/u/l5E0jZ0h4WdUnQ2EG-AFI.png)\n
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      - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
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      ![](https://file.coffee/u/dbefx1DVnayc9JthbRp1Z.png)\n
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      - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
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    Good website! Mozilla.org is not used by the browser though\n
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    [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org)\n
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    So far I cant reproduce that?
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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      ### Chat rooms\n
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      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
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              +body: "Yeah, but it is closed sourced."
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            +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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            Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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            Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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          FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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          I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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          Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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          FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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          Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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      +body: "Do you have sources what Data firefox sends to Alphabet etc?"
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      ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
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      - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
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      ![](https://file.coffee/u/l5E0jZ0h4WdUnQ2EG-AFI.png)\n
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      - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
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      ![](https://file.coffee/u/dbefx1DVnayc9JthbRp1Z.png)\n
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      - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
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    Good website! Mozilla.org is not used by the browser though\n
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    [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org)\n
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    ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/2e8d1bcc-27c0-4a43-8e27-a5151f9315ec.png)\n
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    [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com)\n
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    ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/394dd15b-e566-46ec-9917-ada7bc3949c8.png)\n
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    [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Faccounts.firefox.com)\n
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    ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/e7747a4c-f011-4ea8-a2e2-27eaddf14d35.png)\n
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    So far I cant reproduce that?
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
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      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
      \n
      In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
      \n
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      - Don’t promote proprietary software\n
      - Try to keep things on topic\n
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      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                  +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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                +body: "Yeah, but it is closed sourced."
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              +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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              Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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              Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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            FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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            I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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            Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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            FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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            Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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        +body: "Do you have sources what Data firefox sends to Alphabet etc?"
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        ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
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        - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
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        ![](https://file.coffee/u/l5E0jZ0h4WdUnQ2EG-AFI.png)\n
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        - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
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        ![](https://file.coffee/u/dbefx1DVnayc9JthbRp1Z.png)\n
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        - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
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      Good website! Mozilla.org is not used by the browser though\n
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      [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org)\n
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      [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com)\n
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      So far I cant reproduce that?
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    You make your account in Mozilla.org, you even download FF and some forks from Mozilla.org, you also sync in the servers of Mozilla, what you are testing is the app store and the specific account site, which are only subpages and it’s data are stored in Mozilla.org and from there to Alphabet, as say, to Google. As say, Firefox is a good and private browser itself, but only if you download it from source instead from Mozilla, without an account and sync with own server, if not Google will recieve your account data. That’s the lack when a company depends on external investors and makes a contract with the devil, thereby losing its independence, since the investor can dictate the rules, this was Mozilla’s big mistake. Now they are certainly trying to free themselves from this contract and I sincerely hope that they achieve it next year as they proposed. Depending on surveillance advertising, it is not a good idea, not for the company, especially if it wants to be used in the EU, and even less so for the user. Mozilla deserves to be able to regain its independence from Alphabet (advertising company), which it has lost with this contract with Google.\n
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    Vivaldi does not have external investors, precisely to preserve its independence, they have a [different business model](https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/), based on their own conditions. They use different links and search engines that include by default in the browser when you download it, they pay a commission when used with the Vivaldi browser and the user is free to use them or delete them, if they do not want to use them. Apart from this, they have a Webstore with Merch and, after requests from many users over the years, they now also accept donations, which was not the case before. Now with the inclusion in the automotive versions in Renault, VAG, Polestar and Mercedes will also receive commissions. All this does not commit user data to advertising companies by Vivaldi at all, it only does so if the user uses a search engine that is not private, but this is then their own decision, Vivaldi cannot prevent you from using Facebook, search with Google or Bing.
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
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      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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      - Try to keep things on topic\n
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      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                  +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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                +body: "Yeah, but it is closed sourced."
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              +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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              Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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              Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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            FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
            \n
            I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
            \n
            Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
            \n
            FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
            \n
            Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
            """
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        +body: "Do you have sources what Data firefox sends to Alphabet etc?"
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        ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
        \n
        - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
        \n
        ![](https://file.coffee/u/l5E0jZ0h4WdUnQ2EG-AFI.png)\n
        \n
        - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
        \n
        ![](https://file.coffee/u/dbefx1DVnayc9JthbRp1Z.png)\n
        \n
        - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
        """
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      Good website! Mozilla.org is not used by the browser though\n
      \n
      [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org)\n
      \n
      ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/2e8d1bcc-27c0-4a43-8e27-a5151f9315ec.png)\n
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      [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com)\n
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      ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/394dd15b-e566-46ec-9917-ada7bc3949c8.png)\n
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      [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Faccounts.firefox.com)\n
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      ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/e7747a4c-f011-4ea8-a2e2-27eaddf14d35.png)\n
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      So far I cant reproduce that?
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    You make your account in Mozilla.org, you even download FF and some forks from Mozilla.org, you also sync in the servers of Mozilla, what you are testing is the app store and the specific account site, which are only subpages and it’s data are stored in Mozilla.org and from there to Alphabet, as say, to Google. As say, Firefox is a good and private browser itself, but only if you download it from source instead from Mozilla, without an account and sync with own server, if not Google will recieve your account data. That’s the lack when a company depends on external investors and makes a contract with the devil, thereby losing its independence, since the investor can dictate the rules, this was Mozilla’s big mistake. Now they are certainly trying to free themselves from this contract and I sincerely hope that they achieve it next year as they proposed. Depending on surveillance advertising, it is not a good idea, not for the company, especially if it wants to be used in the EU, and even less so for the user. Mozilla deserves to be able to regain its independence from Alphabet (advertising company), which it has lost with this contract with Google.\n
    \n
    Vivaldi does not have external investors, precisely to preserve its independence, they have a [different business model](https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/), based on their own conditions. They use different links and search engines that include by default in the browser when you download it, they pay a commission when used with the Vivaldi browser and the user is free to use them or delete them, if they do not want to use them. Apart from this, they have a Webstore with Merch and, after requests from many users over the years, they now also accept donations, which was not the case before. Now with the inclusion in the automotive versions in Renault, VAG, Polestar and Mercedes will also receive commissions. All this does not commit user data to advertising companies by Vivaldi at all, it only does so if the user uses a search engine that is not private, but this is then their own decision, Vivaldi cannot prevent you from using Facebook, search with Google or Bing.
    """
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    +name: "privacy@lemmy.ml"
    +title: "privacy"
    +description: """
      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
      \n
      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
      \n
      In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
      \n
      ### Some Rules\n
      \n
      - Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post\n
      - Don’t promote proprietary software\n
      - Try to keep things on topic\n
      - If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered\n
      - Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience\n
      - Be nice :)\n
      \n
      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
      """
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                  +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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                +body: "Yeah, but it is closed sourced."
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              +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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              Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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              Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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            FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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            I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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            Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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            FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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            Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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        +body: "Do you have sources what Data firefox sends to Alphabet etc?"
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        ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
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        - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
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        ![](https://file.coffee/u/l5E0jZ0h4WdUnQ2EG-AFI.png)\n
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        - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
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        ![](https://file.coffee/u/dbefx1DVnayc9JthbRp1Z.png)\n
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        - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
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      Good website! Mozilla.org is not used by the browser though\n
      \n
      [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org)\n
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      ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/2e8d1bcc-27c0-4a43-8e27-a5151f9315ec.png)\n
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      [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com)\n
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      ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/394dd15b-e566-46ec-9917-ada7bc3949c8.png)\n
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      [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Faccounts.firefox.com)\n
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      ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/e7747a4c-f011-4ea8-a2e2-27eaddf14d35.png)\n
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      So far I cant reproduce that?
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    You make your account in Mozilla.org, you even download FF and some forks from Mozilla.org, you also sync in the servers of Mozilla, what you are testing is the app store and the specific account site, which are only subpages and it’s data are stored in Mozilla.org and from there to Alphabet, as say, to Google. As say, Firefox is a good and private browser itself, but only if you download it from source instead from Mozilla, without an account and sync with own server, if not Google will recieve your account data. That’s the lack when a company depends on external investors and makes a contract with the devil, thereby losing its independence, since the investor can dictate the rules, this was Mozilla’s big mistake. Now they are certainly trying to free themselves from this contract and I sincerely hope that they achieve it next year as they proposed. Depending on surveillance advertising, it is not a good idea, not for the company, especially if it wants to be used in the EU, and even less so for the user. Mozilla deserves to be able to regain its independence from Alphabet (advertising company), which it has lost with this contract with Google.\n
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                    +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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                  +body: "Yeah, but it is closed sourced."
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                +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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                Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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                Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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              FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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              I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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              Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
              \n
              FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
              \n
              Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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          +body: "Do you have sources what Data firefox sends to Alphabet etc?"
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          ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
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          - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
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          ![](https://file.coffee/u/l5E0jZ0h4WdUnQ2EG-AFI.png)\n
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          - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
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          ![](https://file.coffee/u/dbefx1DVnayc9JthbRp1Z.png)\n
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          - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
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        Good website! Mozilla.org is not used by the browser though\n
        \n
        [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org)\n
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        [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com)\n
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        So far I cant reproduce that?
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      You make your account in Mozilla.org, you even download FF and some forks from Mozilla.org, you also sync in the servers of Mozilla, what you are testing is the app store and the specific account site, which are only subpages and it’s data are stored in Mozilla.org and from there to Alphabet, as say, to Google. As say, Firefox is a good and private browser itself, but only if you download it from source instead from Mozilla, without an account and sync with own server, if not Google will recieve your account data. That’s the lack when a company depends on external investors and makes a contract with the devil, thereby losing its independence, since the investor can dictate the rules, this was Mozilla’s big mistake. Now they are certainly trying to free themselves from this contract and I sincerely hope that they achieve it next year as they proposed. Depending on surveillance advertising, it is not a good idea, not for the company, especially if it wants to be used in the EU, and even less so for the user. Mozilla deserves to be able to regain its independence from Alphabet (advertising company), which it has lost with this contract with Google.\n
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      Vivaldi does not have external investors, precisely to preserve its independence, they have a [different business model](https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/), based on their own conditions. They use different links and search engines that include by default in the browser when you download it, they pay a commission when used with the Vivaldi browser and the user is free to use them or delete them, if they do not want to use them. Apart from this, they have a Webstore with Merch and, after requests from many users over the years, they now also accept donations, which was not the case before. Now with the inclusion in the automotive versions in Renault, VAG, Polestar and Mercedes will also receive commissions. All this does not commit user data to advertising companies by Vivaldi at all, it only does so if the user uses a search engine that is not private, but this is then their own decision, Vivaldi cannot prevent you from using Facebook, search with Google or Bing.
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    They load google Javascript right? Does that proof “your account data” is sent to Google or Facebook (hate these hide-away company names)\n
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    I think this is not true. Mozilla doesnt send user accounts to these sites.\n
    \n
    Even though the plain existence of these javascript tracking scripts is absurd. But dont spread fake news please
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                    +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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                  +body: "Yeah, but it is closed sourced."
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                +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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                Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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                Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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              FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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              I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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              Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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              FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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              Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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          +body: "Do you have sources what Data firefox sends to Alphabet etc?"
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          ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
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          - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
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          ![](https://file.coffee/u/l5E0jZ0h4WdUnQ2EG-AFI.png)\n
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          - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
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          ![](https://file.coffee/u/dbefx1DVnayc9JthbRp1Z.png)\n
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          - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
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        Good website! Mozilla.org is not used by the browser though\n
        \n
        [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org)\n
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        ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/2e8d1bcc-27c0-4a43-8e27-a5151f9315ec.png)\n
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        [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com)\n
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        ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/394dd15b-e566-46ec-9917-ada7bc3949c8.png)\n
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        [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Faccounts.firefox.com)\n
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        ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/e7747a4c-f011-4ea8-a2e2-27eaddf14d35.png)\n
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        So far I cant reproduce that?
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      You make your account in Mozilla.org, you even download FF and some forks from Mozilla.org, you also sync in the servers of Mozilla, what you are testing is the app store and the specific account site, which are only subpages and it’s data are stored in Mozilla.org and from there to Alphabet, as say, to Google. As say, Firefox is a good and private browser itself, but only if you download it from source instead from Mozilla, without an account and sync with own server, if not Google will recieve your account data. That’s the lack when a company depends on external investors and makes a contract with the devil, thereby losing its independence, since the investor can dictate the rules, this was Mozilla’s big mistake. Now they are certainly trying to free themselves from this contract and I sincerely hope that they achieve it next year as they proposed. Depending on surveillance advertising, it is not a good idea, not for the company, especially if it wants to be used in the EU, and even less so for the user. Mozilla deserves to be able to regain its independence from Alphabet (advertising company), which it has lost with this contract with Google.\n
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    They load google Javascript right? Does that proof “your account data” is sent to Google or Facebook (hate these hide-away company names)\n
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    I think this is not true. Mozilla doesnt send user accounts to these sites.\n
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    Even though the plain existence of these javascript tracking scripts is absurd. But dont spread fake news please
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      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                    +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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                +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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                Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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                Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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                date: 2023-12-06 23:45:14.0 +01:00
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              FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
              \n
              I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
              \n
              Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
              \n
              FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
              \n
              Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
              """
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          +body: "Do you have sources what Data firefox sends to Alphabet etc?"
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            date: 2023-12-07 07:44:29.0 +01:00
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        +body: """
          ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
          \n
          - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
          \n
          ![](https://file.coffee/u/l5E0jZ0h4WdUnQ2EG-AFI.png)\n
          \n
          - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
          \n
          ![](https://file.coffee/u/dbefx1DVnayc9JthbRp1Z.png)\n
          \n
          - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
          """
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        Good website! Mozilla.org is not used by the browser though\n
        \n
        [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org)\n
        \n
        ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/2e8d1bcc-27c0-4a43-8e27-a5151f9315ec.png)\n
        \n
        [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com)\n
        \n
        ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/394dd15b-e566-46ec-9917-ada7bc3949c8.png)\n
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        [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Faccounts.firefox.com)\n
        \n
        ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/e7747a4c-f011-4ea8-a2e2-27eaddf14d35.png)\n
        \n
        So far I cant reproduce that?
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      You make your account in Mozilla.org, you even download FF and some forks from Mozilla.org, you also sync in the servers of Mozilla, what you are testing is the app store and the specific account site, which are only subpages and it’s data are stored in Mozilla.org and from there to Alphabet, as say, to Google. As say, Firefox is a good and private browser itself, but only if you download it from source instead from Mozilla, without an account and sync with own server, if not Google will recieve your account data. That’s the lack when a company depends on external investors and makes a contract with the devil, thereby losing its independence, since the investor can dictate the rules, this was Mozilla’s big mistake. Now they are certainly trying to free themselves from this contract and I sincerely hope that they achieve it next year as they proposed. Depending on surveillance advertising, it is not a good idea, not for the company, especially if it wants to be used in the EU, and even less so for the user. Mozilla deserves to be able to regain its independence from Alphabet (advertising company), which it has lost with this contract with Google.\n
      \n
      Vivaldi does not have external investors, precisely to preserve its independence, they have a [different business model](https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/), based on their own conditions. They use different links and search engines that include by default in the browser when you download it, they pay a commission when used with the Vivaldi browser and the user is free to use them or delete them, if they do not want to use them. Apart from this, they have a Webstore with Merch and, after requests from many users over the years, they now also accept donations, which was not the case before. Now with the inclusion in the automotive versions in Renault, VAG, Polestar and Mercedes will also receive commissions. All this does not commit user data to advertising companies by Vivaldi at all, it only does so if the user uses a search engine that is not private, but this is then their own decision, Vivaldi cannot prevent you from using Facebook, search with Google or Bing.
      """
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    They load google Javascript right? Does that proof “your account data” is sent to Google or Facebook (hate these hide-away company names)\n
    \n
    I think this is not true. Mozilla doesnt send user accounts to these sites.\n
    \n
    Even though the plain existence of these javascript tracking scripts is absurd. But dont spread fake news please
    """
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    +title: "privacy"
    +description: """
      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
      \n
      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
      \n
      In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
      \n
      ### Some Rules\n
      \n
      - Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post\n
      - Don’t promote proprietary software\n
      - Try to keep things on topic\n
      - If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered\n
      - Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience\n
      - Be nice :)\n
      \n
      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                    +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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                  +body: "Yeah, but it is closed sourced."
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                +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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                Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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                Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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              FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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              I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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              Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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              FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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              Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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          ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
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          - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
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          ![](https://file.coffee/u/l5E0jZ0h4WdUnQ2EG-AFI.png)\n
          \n
          - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
          \n
          ![](https://file.coffee/u/dbefx1DVnayc9JthbRp1Z.png)\n
          \n
          - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
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        Good website! Mozilla.org is not used by the browser though\n
        \n
        [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org)\n
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        ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/2e8d1bcc-27c0-4a43-8e27-a5151f9315ec.png)\n
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        [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com)\n
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        ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/394dd15b-e566-46ec-9917-ada7bc3949c8.png)\n
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        [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Faccounts.firefox.com)\n
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        ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/e7747a4c-f011-4ea8-a2e2-27eaddf14d35.png)\n
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        So far I cant reproduce that?
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      You make your account in Mozilla.org, you even download FF and some forks from Mozilla.org, you also sync in the servers of Mozilla, what you are testing is the app store and the specific account site, which are only subpages and it’s data are stored in Mozilla.org and from there to Alphabet, as say, to Google. As say, Firefox is a good and private browser itself, but only if you download it from source instead from Mozilla, without an account and sync with own server, if not Google will recieve your account data. That’s the lack when a company depends on external investors and makes a contract with the devil, thereby losing its independence, since the investor can dictate the rules, this was Mozilla’s big mistake. Now they are certainly trying to free themselves from this contract and I sincerely hope that they achieve it next year as they proposed. Depending on surveillance advertising, it is not a good idea, not for the company, especially if it wants to be used in the EU, and even less so for the user. Mozilla deserves to be able to regain its independence from Alphabet (advertising company), which it has lost with this contract with Google.\n
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      Vivaldi does not have external investors, precisely to preserve its independence, they have a [different business model](https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/), based on their own conditions. They use different links and search engines that include by default in the browser when you download it, they pay a commission when used with the Vivaldi browser and the user is free to use them or delete them, if they do not want to use them. Apart from this, they have a Webstore with Merch and, after requests from many users over the years, they now also accept donations, which was not the case before. Now with the inclusion in the automotive versions in Renault, VAG, Polestar and Mercedes will also receive commissions. All this does not commit user data to advertising companies by Vivaldi at all, it only does so if the user uses a search engine that is not private, but this is then their own decision, Vivaldi cannot prevent you from using Facebook, search with Google or Bing.
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
      \n
      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
      \n
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      \n
      - Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post\n
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                    +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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                +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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                Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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                Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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              FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
              \n
              I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
              \n
              Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
              \n
              FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
              \n
              Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
              """
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          +body: "Do you have sources what Data firefox sends to Alphabet etc?"
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          ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
          \n
          - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
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          ![](https://file.coffee/u/l5E0jZ0h4WdUnQ2EG-AFI.png)\n
          \n
          - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
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          ![](https://file.coffee/u/dbefx1DVnayc9JthbRp1Z.png)\n
          \n
          - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
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        Good website! Mozilla.org is not used by the browser though\n
        \n
        [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org)\n
        \n
        ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/2e8d1bcc-27c0-4a43-8e27-a5151f9315ec.png)\n
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        [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com)\n
        \n
        ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/394dd15b-e566-46ec-9917-ada7bc3949c8.png)\n
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        [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Faccounts.firefox.com)\n
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        ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/e7747a4c-f011-4ea8-a2e2-27eaddf14d35.png)\n
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        So far I cant reproduce that?
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      You make your account in Mozilla.org, you even download FF and some forks from Mozilla.org, you also sync in the servers of Mozilla, what you are testing is the app store and the specific account site, which are only subpages and it’s data are stored in Mozilla.org and from there to Alphabet, as say, to Google. As say, Firefox is a good and private browser itself, but only if you download it from source instead from Mozilla, without an account and sync with own server, if not Google will recieve your account data. That’s the lack when a company depends on external investors and makes a contract with the devil, thereby losing its independence, since the investor can dictate the rules, this was Mozilla’s big mistake. Now they are certainly trying to free themselves from this contract and I sincerely hope that they achieve it next year as they proposed. Depending on surveillance advertising, it is not a good idea, not for the company, especially if it wants to be used in the EU, and even less so for the user. Mozilla deserves to be able to regain its independence from Alphabet (advertising company), which it has lost with this contract with Google.\n
      \n
      Vivaldi does not have external investors, precisely to preserve its independence, they have a [different business model](https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/), based on their own conditions. They use different links and search engines that include by default in the browser when you download it, they pay a commission when used with the Vivaldi browser and the user is free to use them or delete them, if they do not want to use them. Apart from this, they have a Webstore with Merch and, after requests from many users over the years, they now also accept donations, which was not the case before. Now with the inclusion in the automotive versions in Renault, VAG, Polestar and Mercedes will also receive commissions. All this does not commit user data to advertising companies by Vivaldi at all, it only does so if the user uses a search engine that is not private, but this is then their own decision, Vivaldi cannot prevent you from using Facebook, search with Google or Bing.
      """
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  +body: "I dont think Mozilla sends your account data to Google. And because the main homepage uses tracking, that is not a sign that the internal account database is shared. These are completely unrelated."
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    +title: "privacy"
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
      \n
      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
      \n
      In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
      \n
      ### Some Rules\n
      \n
      - Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post\n
      - Don’t promote proprietary software\n
      - Try to keep things on topic\n
      - If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered\n
      - Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience\n
      - Be nice :)\n
      \n
      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                    +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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                  +body: "Yeah, but it is closed sourced."
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                +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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                Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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                Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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              FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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              I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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              Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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              FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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              Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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          +body: "Do you have sources what Data firefox sends to Alphabet etc?"
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          ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
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          - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
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          ![](https://file.coffee/u/l5E0jZ0h4WdUnQ2EG-AFI.png)\n
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          - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
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          ![](https://file.coffee/u/dbefx1DVnayc9JthbRp1Z.png)\n
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          - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
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        Good website! Mozilla.org is not used by the browser though\n
        \n
        [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org)\n
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        ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/2e8d1bcc-27c0-4a43-8e27-a5151f9315ec.png)\n
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        [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com)\n
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        ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/394dd15b-e566-46ec-9917-ada7bc3949c8.png)\n
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        [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Faccounts.firefox.com)\n
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        So far I cant reproduce that?
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      You make your account in Mozilla.org, you even download FF and some forks from Mozilla.org, you also sync in the servers of Mozilla, what you are testing is the app store and the specific account site, which are only subpages and it’s data are stored in Mozilla.org and from there to Alphabet, as say, to Google. As say, Firefox is a good and private browser itself, but only if you download it from source instead from Mozilla, without an account and sync with own server, if not Google will recieve your account data. That’s the lack when a company depends on external investors and makes a contract with the devil, thereby losing its independence, since the investor can dictate the rules, this was Mozilla’s big mistake. Now they are certainly trying to free themselves from this contract and I sincerely hope that they achieve it next year as they proposed. Depending on surveillance advertising, it is not a good idea, not for the company, especially if it wants to be used in the EU, and even less so for the user. Mozilla deserves to be able to regain its independence from Alphabet (advertising company), which it has lost with this contract with Google.\n
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      Vivaldi does not have external investors, precisely to preserve its independence, they have a [different business model](https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/), based on their own conditions. They use different links and search engines that include by default in the browser when you download it, they pay a commission when used with the Vivaldi browser and the user is free to use them or delete them, if they do not want to use them. Apart from this, they have a Webstore with Merch and, after requests from many users over the years, they now also accept donations, which was not the case before. Now with the inclusion in the automotive versions in Renault, VAG, Polestar and Mercedes will also receive commissions. All this does not commit user data to advertising companies by Vivaldi at all, it only does so if the user uses a search engine that is not private, but this is then their own decision, Vivaldi cannot prevent you from using Facebook, search with Google or Bing.
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
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      - Don’t promote proprietary software\n
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      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                      +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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                  +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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                  Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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                  Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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                FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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                I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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                Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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                FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
                \n
                Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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            +body: "Do you have sources what Data firefox sends to Alphabet etc?"
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            ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
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            - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
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            ![](https://file.coffee/u/l5E0jZ0h4WdUnQ2EG-AFI.png)\n
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            - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
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            ![](https://file.coffee/u/dbefx1DVnayc9JthbRp1Z.png)\n
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            - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
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          Good website! Mozilla.org is not used by the browser though\n
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          [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org)\n
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          ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/2e8d1bcc-27c0-4a43-8e27-a5151f9315ec.png)\n
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          [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com)\n
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          ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/394dd15b-e566-46ec-9917-ada7bc3949c8.png)\n
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          So far I cant reproduce that?
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        You make your account in Mozilla.org, you even download FF and some forks from Mozilla.org, you also sync in the servers of Mozilla, what you are testing is the app store and the specific account site, which are only subpages and it’s data are stored in Mozilla.org and from there to Alphabet, as say, to Google. As say, Firefox is a good and private browser itself, but only if you download it from source instead from Mozilla, without an account and sync with own server, if not Google will recieve your account data. That’s the lack when a company depends on external investors and makes a contract with the devil, thereby losing its independence, since the investor can dictate the rules, this was Mozilla’s big mistake. Now they are certainly trying to free themselves from this contract and I sincerely hope that they achieve it next year as they proposed. Depending on surveillance advertising, it is not a good idea, not for the company, especially if it wants to be used in the EU, and even less so for the user. Mozilla deserves to be able to regain its independence from Alphabet (advertising company), which it has lost with this contract with Google.\n
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        Vivaldi does not have external investors, precisely to preserve its independence, they have a [different business model](https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/), based on their own conditions. They use different links and search engines that include by default in the browser when you download it, they pay a commission when used with the Vivaldi browser and the user is free to use them or delete them, if they do not want to use them. Apart from this, they have a Webstore with Merch and, after requests from many users over the years, they now also accept donations, which was not the case before. Now with the inclusion in the automotive versions in Renault, VAG, Polestar and Mercedes will also receive commissions. All this does not commit user data to advertising companies by Vivaldi at all, it only does so if the user uses a search engine that is not private, but this is then their own decision, Vivaldi cannot prevent you from using Facebook, search with Google or Bing.
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    +body: "I dont think Mozilla sends your account data to Google. And because the main homepage uses tracking, that is not a sign that the internal account database is shared. These are completely unrelated."
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  +body: "Mozilla clearly send data to Alphabet, googleanalytics and googletabmanager, I don’t believe that this data are only christmas greetings to the sponsor. But I also think and hope, that this will cese if Mozilla finish the contract with Google in 2024 as they say. Mozilla does not deserve to be under Google’s control and there are not many alternatives in the market.Yes, there are a lot of forks of Gecko and also Blink, but mostly with bad maintance, poor support or even contract with the devil, well with surveillance advertisings (Chrome, Edge, Opera (this one the worst)), with shady crypto companies (Brave), or direct filtering data to Gov and security services (Safari). Some exotics wit Qt or Goanna engine (Otter), batteling to survive or are discontinued.(Falcon) As said, Vivaldi and Firefox (or maybe one of the better forks, like Floorp or Midori), there are not much more.I’ve both."
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
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      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                      +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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                    +body: "Yeah, but it is closed sourced."
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                  +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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                  Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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                  Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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                FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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                I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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                FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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                Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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            ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
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            - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
            \n
            ![](https://file.coffee/u/l5E0jZ0h4WdUnQ2EG-AFI.png)\n
            \n
            - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
            \n
            ![](https://file.coffee/u/dbefx1DVnayc9JthbRp1Z.png)\n
            \n
            - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
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          Good website! Mozilla.org is not used by the browser though\n
          \n
          [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org)\n
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          ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/2e8d1bcc-27c0-4a43-8e27-a5151f9315ec.png)\n
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          [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com)\n
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          ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/394dd15b-e566-46ec-9917-ada7bc3949c8.png)\n
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          So far I cant reproduce that?
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        You make your account in Mozilla.org, you even download FF and some forks from Mozilla.org, you also sync in the servers of Mozilla, what you are testing is the app store and the specific account site, which are only subpages and it’s data are stored in Mozilla.org and from there to Alphabet, as say, to Google. As say, Firefox is a good and private browser itself, but only if you download it from source instead from Mozilla, without an account and sync with own server, if not Google will recieve your account data. That’s the lack when a company depends on external investors and makes a contract with the devil, thereby losing its independence, since the investor can dictate the rules, this was Mozilla’s big mistake. Now they are certainly trying to free themselves from this contract and I sincerely hope that they achieve it next year as they proposed. Depending on surveillance advertising, it is not a good idea, not for the company, especially if it wants to be used in the EU, and even less so for the user. Mozilla deserves to be able to regain its independence from Alphabet (advertising company), which it has lost with this contract with Google.\n
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        Vivaldi does not have external investors, precisely to preserve its independence, they have a [different business model](https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/), based on their own conditions. They use different links and search engines that include by default in the browser when you download it, they pay a commission when used with the Vivaldi browser and the user is free to use them or delete them, if they do not want to use them. Apart from this, they have a Webstore with Merch and, after requests from many users over the years, they now also accept donations, which was not the case before. Now with the inclusion in the automotive versions in Renault, VAG, Polestar and Mercedes will also receive commissions. All this does not commit user data to advertising companies by Vivaldi at all, it only does so if the user uses a search engine that is not private, but this is then their own decision, Vivaldi cannot prevent you from using Facebook, search with Google or Bing.
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    +body: "I dont think Mozilla sends your account data to Google. And because the main homepage uses tracking, that is not a sign that the internal account database is shared. These are completely unrelated."
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  +body: "Mozilla clearly send data to Alphabet, googleanalytics and googletabmanager, I don’t believe that this data are only christmas greetings to the sponsor. But I also think and hope, that this will cese if Mozilla finish the contract with Google in 2024 as they say. Mozilla does not deserve to be under Google’s control and there are not many alternatives in the market.Yes, there are a lot of forks of Gecko and also Blink, but mostly with bad maintance, poor support or even contract with the devil, well with surveillance advertisings (Chrome, Edge, Opera (this one the worst)), with shady crypto companies (Brave), or direct filtering data to Gov and security services (Safari). Some exotics wit Qt or Goanna engine (Otter), batteling to survive or are discontinued.(Falcon) As said, Vivaldi and Firefox (or maybe one of the better forks, like Floorp or Midori), there are not much more.I’ve both."
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
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      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
      \n
      In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
      \n
      ### Some Rules\n
      \n
      - Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post\n
      - Don’t promote proprietary software\n
      - Try to keep things on topic\n
      - If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered\n
      - Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience\n
      - Be nice :)\n
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      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                      +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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                    +body: "Yeah, but it is closed sourced."
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                  +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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                  Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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                  Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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                FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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                I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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                Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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                FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
                \n
                Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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            +body: "Do you have sources what Data firefox sends to Alphabet etc?"
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            ![](https://file.coffee/u/bns9Pq1gcuIysYH0HJUap.png)\n
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            - [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen…](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=www.mozilla.org%2Fen-US%2F%3Fv%3D1&device=desktop&location=us)\n
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            ![](https://file.coffee/u/l5E0jZ0h4WdUnQ2EG-AFI.png)\n
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            - [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/en/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmozilla.org)\n
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            ![](https://file.coffee/u/dbefx1DVnayc9JthbRp1Z.png)\n
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            - [privacyscore.org/site/222012/](https://privacyscore.org/site/222012/)
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          Good website! Mozilla.org is not used by the browser though\n
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          [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=addons.mozilla.org)\n
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          ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/2e8d1bcc-27c0-4a43-8e27-a5151f9315ec.png)\n
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          [themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com](https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=accounts.firefox.com)\n
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          ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/394dd15b-e566-46ec-9917-ada7bc3949c8.png)\n
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          [webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%…](https://webbkoll.dataskydd.net/de/results?url=http%3A%2F%2Faccounts.firefox.com)\n
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          ![](https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/e7747a4c-f011-4ea8-a2e2-27eaddf14d35.png)\n
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          So far I cant reproduce that?
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        You make your account in Mozilla.org, you even download FF and some forks from Mozilla.org, you also sync in the servers of Mozilla, what you are testing is the app store and the specific account site, which are only subpages and it’s data are stored in Mozilla.org and from there to Alphabet, as say, to Google. As say, Firefox is a good and private browser itself, but only if you download it from source instead from Mozilla, without an account and sync with own server, if not Google will recieve your account data. That’s the lack when a company depends on external investors and makes a contract with the devil, thereby losing its independence, since the investor can dictate the rules, this was Mozilla’s big mistake. Now they are certainly trying to free themselves from this contract and I sincerely hope that they achieve it next year as they proposed. Depending on surveillance advertising, it is not a good idea, not for the company, especially if it wants to be used in the EU, and even less so for the user. Mozilla deserves to be able to regain its independence from Alphabet (advertising company), which it has lost with this contract with Google.\n
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        Vivaldi does not have external investors, precisely to preserve its independence, they have a [different business model](https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/), based on their own conditions. They use different links and search engines that include by default in the browser when you download it, they pay a commission when used with the Vivaldi browser and the user is free to use them or delete them, if they do not want to use them. Apart from this, they have a Webstore with Merch and, after requests from many users over the years, they now also accept donations, which was not the case before. Now with the inclusion in the automotive versions in Renault, VAG, Polestar and Mercedes will also receive commissions. All this does not commit user data to advertising companies by Vivaldi at all, it only does so if the user uses a search engine that is not private, but this is then their own decision, Vivaldi cannot prevent you from using Facebook, search with Google or Bing.
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  +body: "Mozilla clearly send data to Alphabet, googleanalytics and googletabmanager, I don’t believe that this data are only christmas greetings to the sponsor. But I also think and hope, that this will cese if Mozilla finish the contract with Google in 2024 as they say. Mozilla does not deserve to be under Google’s control and there are not many alternatives in the market.Yes, there are a lot of forks of Gecko and also Blink, but mostly with bad maintance, poor support or even contract with the devil, well with surveillance advertisings (Chrome, Edge, Opera (this one the worst)), with shady crypto companies (Brave), or direct filtering data to Gov and security services (Safari). Some exotics wit Qt or Goanna engine (Otter), batteling to survive or are discontinued.(Falcon) As said, Vivaldi and Firefox (or maybe one of the better forks, like Floorp or Midori), there are not much more.I’ve both."
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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        +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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        Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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        Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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      FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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      I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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      FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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      Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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    > Not all what is proprietary soft is crap\n
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    You’re wrong. For privacy, being proprietary is one of the biggest red flags.\n
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    > nor all FOSS is the panacea\n
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    That’s absolutely true tho.
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
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      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
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      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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            +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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        +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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        Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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        Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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      FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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      I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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      Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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      FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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      Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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    > Not all what is proprietary soft is crap\n
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    You’re wrong. For privacy, being proprietary is one of the biggest red flags.\n
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    That’s absolutely true tho.
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
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      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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      In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
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      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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            +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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          +body: "Yeah, but it is closed sourced."
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        +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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        Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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        Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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      FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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      I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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      FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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      Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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    > Not all what is proprietary soft is crap\n
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    You’re wrong. For privacy, being proprietary is one of the biggest red flags.\n
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    That’s absolutely true tho.
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      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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              +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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            +body: "Yeah, but it is closed sourced."
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          +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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          Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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          Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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        FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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        I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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        Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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        FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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        Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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  +body: "Not at all, proprietary soft or services from big corporations are certainly a red flag, but not necesarly from small ones or startups. Which search engine do you use? If FOSS, which engine do it use? VPN? Drivers? eg IrfanView or SSuite are crap? Not so easy and always wrong to globalize."
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              +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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          +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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          Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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        FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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        I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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        Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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        FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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        Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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              +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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          +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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          Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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        FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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        I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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        FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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        Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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  +body: "Not at all, proprietary soft or services from big corporations are certainly a red flag, but not necesarly from small ones or startups. Which search engine do you use? If FOSS, which engine do it use? VPN? Drivers? eg IrfanView or SSuite are crap? Not so easy and always wrong to globalize."
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                +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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            +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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            Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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            Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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          FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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          FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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          Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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        > Not all what is proprietary soft is crap\n
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        You’re wrong. For privacy, being proprietary is one of the biggest red flags.\n
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        That’s absolutely true tho.
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    +body: "Not at all, proprietary soft or services from big corporations are certainly a red flag, but not necesarly from small ones or startups. Which search engine do you use? If FOSS, which engine do it use? VPN? Drivers? eg IrfanView or SSuite are crap? Not so easy and always wrong to globalize."
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    > Which search engine do you use? If FOSS, which engine do it use? VPN?\n
    \n
    There’s a relevant difference here. If the proprietary software runs on the server side and everything on the client side it’s free software, that’s very different than running a proprietary web browser on your own machine.\n
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    So as long as my search engine does not execute proprietary JavaScript and I can connect to my VPN using the OpenVPN or Wireguard client, it’s okay.\n
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    Nonetheless, it’s of course very much preferable that the server side is free software too.\n
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    I don’t care if the proprietary software comes from a mega corp or a small startup. It’s still proprietary.
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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            +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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            Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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          FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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          I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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          Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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          FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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          Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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        > Not all what is proprietary soft is crap\n
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        You’re wrong. For privacy, being proprietary is one of the biggest red flags.\n
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        > nor all FOSS is the panacea\n
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        That’s absolutely true tho.
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    +body: "Not at all, proprietary soft or services from big corporations are certainly a red flag, but not necesarly from small ones or startups. Which search engine do you use? If FOSS, which engine do it use? VPN? Drivers? eg IrfanView or SSuite are crap? Not so easy and always wrong to globalize."
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    > Which search engine do you use? If FOSS, which engine do it use? VPN?\n
    \n
    There’s a relevant difference here. If the proprietary software runs on the server side and everything on the client side it’s free software, that’s very different than running a proprietary web browser on your own machine.\n
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    So as long as my search engine does not execute proprietary JavaScript and I can connect to my VPN using the OpenVPN or Wireguard client, it’s okay.\n
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    Nonetheless, it’s of course very much preferable that the server side is free software too.\n
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    I don’t care if the proprietary software comes from a mega corp or a small startup. It’s still proprietary.
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
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      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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      - Be nice :)\n
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      ### Related communities\n
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      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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            +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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            Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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            Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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          FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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          FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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        > Not all what is proprietary soft is crap\n
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        You’re wrong. For privacy, being proprietary is one of the biggest red flags.\n
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        > nor all FOSS is the panacea\n
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        That’s absolutely true tho.
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    > Which search engine do you use? If FOSS, which engine do it use? VPN?\n
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    There’s a relevant difference here. If the proprietary software runs on the server side and everything on the client side it’s free software, that’s very different than running a proprietary web browser on your own machine.\n
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    So as long as my search engine does not execute proprietary JavaScript and I can connect to my VPN using the OpenVPN or Wireguard client, it’s okay.\n
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    Nonetheless, it’s of course very much preferable that the server side is free software too.\n
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    I don’t care if the proprietary software comes from a mega corp or a small startup. It’s still proprietary.
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      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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              +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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              Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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              Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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            FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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            I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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            Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
            \n
            FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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            Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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          > Not all what is proprietary soft is crap\n
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          You’re wrong. For privacy, being proprietary is one of the biggest red flags.\n
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          > nor all FOSS is the panacea\n
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          That’s absolutely true tho.
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      +body: "Not at all, proprietary soft or services from big corporations are certainly a red flag, but not necesarly from small ones or startups. Which search engine do you use? If FOSS, which engine do it use? VPN? Drivers? eg IrfanView or SSuite are crap? Not so easy and always wrong to globalize."
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      > Which search engine do you use? If FOSS, which engine do it use? VPN?\n
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      There’s a relevant difference here. If the proprietary software runs on the server side and everything on the client side it’s free software, that’s very different than running a proprietary web browser on your own machine.\n
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      So as long as my search engine does not execute proprietary JavaScript and I can connect to my VPN using the OpenVPN or Wireguard client, it’s okay.\n
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      Nonetheless, it’s of course very much preferable that the server side is free software too.\n
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      I don’t care if the proprietary software comes from a mega corp or a small startup. It’s still proprietary.
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  +body: "In proprietary soft the risk of privacy flaws is greater in online services, than in local apps, just the other way arround as you said. In FOSS yo can only stay secure selfhosting it, but not all people have the possibility or the money to pay an own server and must trust an more o less stable public server. Well, as VPN you can use Proton, which is Freemium OpenSource, like also some others, but even so, are you sure about the hundreds or thosends of public servers which connect the VPN? As said, don’t use some pink FOSS glasses with “the wonderful FOSS and proprietary soft very bad” Mantra, the awakening of these idealizations can be unpleasant, I know… Ask a dev of the lot of work which must be done, to convert Chromium, which is 100% FOSS, in something private and usable and how many FOSS in GitHub, GitLab and others, are full of APIs from Google, Facebook, Amazon, MS…, all of these are also 100% FOSS. The risk is online, not locally in your PC (malware apart, often also FOSS), outgoing traffic from an app, you can control, outgoing traffic in an online server you can’t."
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
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      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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      - Be nice :)\n
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      ### Related communities\n
      \n
      - [Lemmy.ml libre_culture](https://lemmy.ml/c/libre_culture)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
      - [Lemmy.ca privacy](https://lemmy.ca/c/privacy)\n
      \n
      ### Chat rooms\n
      \n
      - [Matrix/Element]Dead\n
      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                  +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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                +body: "Yeah, but it is closed sourced."
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              +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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              Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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              Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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            FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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            I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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            Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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            FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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            Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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          > Not all what is proprietary soft is crap\n
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          You’re wrong. For privacy, being proprietary is one of the biggest red flags.\n
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          > nor all FOSS is the panacea\n
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          That’s absolutely true tho.
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      +body: "Not at all, proprietary soft or services from big corporations are certainly a red flag, but not necesarly from small ones or startups. Which search engine do you use? If FOSS, which engine do it use? VPN? Drivers? eg IrfanView or SSuite are crap? Not so easy and always wrong to globalize."
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      > Which search engine do you use? If FOSS, which engine do it use? VPN?\n
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      There’s a relevant difference here. If the proprietary software runs on the server side and everything on the client side it’s free software, that’s very different than running a proprietary web browser on your own machine.\n
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      So as long as my search engine does not execute proprietary JavaScript and I can connect to my VPN using the OpenVPN or Wireguard client, it’s okay.\n
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      Nonetheless, it’s of course very much preferable that the server side is free software too.\n
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      I don’t care if the proprietary software comes from a mega corp or a small startup. It’s still proprietary.
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  +body: "In proprietary soft the risk of privacy flaws is greater in online services, than in local apps, just the other way arround as you said. In FOSS yo can only stay secure selfhosting it, but not all people have the possibility or the money to pay an own server and must trust an more o less stable public server. Well, as VPN you can use Proton, which is Freemium OpenSource, like also some others, but even so, are you sure about the hundreds or thosends of public servers which connect the VPN? As said, don’t use some pink FOSS glasses with “the wonderful FOSS and proprietary soft very bad” Mantra, the awakening of these idealizations can be unpleasant, I know… Ask a dev of the lot of work which must be done, to convert Chromium, which is 100% FOSS, in something private and usable and how many FOSS in GitHub, GitLab and others, are full of APIs from Google, Facebook, Amazon, MS…, all of these are also 100% FOSS. The risk is online, not locally in your PC (malware apart, often also FOSS), outgoing traffic from an app, you can control, outgoing traffic in an online server you can’t."
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      A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.\n
      ============================================================\n
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      Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.\n
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      In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.\n
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      - Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn’t great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post\n
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      - [Lemmy.ml privatelife](https://lemmy.ml/c/privatelife)\n
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      ### Chat rooms\n
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      - [Discord](https://discord.gg/8xfrVjvngh)\n
      \n
      much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)
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                  +body: "I use Vivaldi, I don’t know a better Chromium for privacy nor because other features (made in the EU by a employee-owned cooperative, no extern investors, gutted Chromium base (no phones to Google), no tracking, no logging, inbuild ad- and trackerblocker with customizables filterlists, encrypted sync, feed reader, mail client, calendar, reader list, reader view, splitscreen, full customizable UI, command chains, etc…). Apart with your account an own blogging platform, mail service, included an Mastodon account in the Vivaldis own instance, which you can use with your account. [vivaldi.com](https://vivaldi.com)"
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                +body: "Yeah, but it is closed sourced."
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              +body: "Yes and no, 5% of the script, corresponding to its unique UI is proprietary, but 100% auditable and even moddeable by the user (in the Forum they show you even [how to do it](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi), at own risk, logical). And its better so this way, making it OpenSource too, Chrome and Edge are the first in forking it, which will be the end of Vivaldi and any other Chromium. Anyway, with more than 100 browsers curretntly in the market, OpenSource or not isn’t the most important poiny, more important the ethics and transparency respect the user of the company. Respect privacy it is irrelevant, it depends only of the manufactor of the product, not if it OpenSource or not, all spying APIs of Google, Facebook, MS & cia are all OpenSource and included in a lot of the FOSS in the market (also in Firefox, eg the “save” browsing API is from Google, not really needed if you use an adblocker (uBO), which contains a similar function, this API send your browsing data to Google who host the list of phising sites but also logs your activity, If you can, desactivate it, in Vivaldi you can do it in the privacy settings)"
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              Opensource is a very important point. If its only the UI that is a different thing though.\n
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              Save browsing in Firefox is anonymized and afaik even proxied. In FF you can also deactivate it but shouldnt. No personal data is sent and it is not identifiable. But you may really not need it.
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            FOSS nowadays isn’t the same anymore since BigBrothers entered this world, first Google and Microsoft, the latter even acquiring GitHub, FOSS is no longer the same as it was a few years ago. Many companies no longer focus on communities, developing their products tangentially to the user more in their own interests. In the world of browsers, there are already more than 100 on the market, forks of Gecko, Blink and Webkit, some exotic ones aside, like Otter, which is also fighting for its life to avoid passing to the more than 70 browsers that were abandoned and discontinued in this Browser war that exists, where everyone fights to survive against the great Mainstreams Chrome, EDGE, or the Chinese Opera.\n
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            I have been using Vivaldi for more than 7 years and I have seen Google’s tricks to eliminate it, even leading to the point that the Vivaldi team removed the Vivaldi UA, disguising it as Chrome, against their own interests, so that the user not getting blocked by Google services and related pages with the argument “browser not compatible” which was absurd. Since then there has been a continuous war against Google’s attempts to control this browser, which has until now always resulted in Google coming to hit the teeth on a rock, (IdleAPI, FLoC, and other crap)\n
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            Meanwhile Mozilla made a contract with Google, for using Google as main search, apart from sending Data of the accounts to Alphabet, googletagmanager and googleanalytics to survive. That is the value of FOSS today, not the user or the community, nor the ethics or transparency of the company.\n
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            FOSS is important, yes, for devs who want to launch another fork more, but not so much for the normal user, for this it counts excellent support, an active community, a real interaction with the devs and the team, honesty and ethics of the company. But yes Vivaldis 5% of the script of its unique UI is proprietary, to avoid that Google, EDGE or Opera can fork it, same with Brave, it also isn’t fullOpenSource for similar reasons (see its TOS about copyrights) Other engines are easier to go OpenSource, because Chrome or EDGE can’t fork it for the own browsers. It’s not the same problem.\n
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            Not all what is proprietary soft is crap nor all FOSS is the panacea, it’s by way not so simple, with ugly surprises when you walk with fixed ideas
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          > Not all what is proprietary soft is crap\n
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          You’re wrong. For privacy, being proprietary is one of the biggest red flags.\n
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          > nor all FOSS is the panacea\n
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          That’s absolutely true tho.
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      > Which search engine do you use? If FOSS, which engine do it use? VPN?\n
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      - [Lemmy.ml DeGoogle](https://lemmy.ml/c/degoogle)\n
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    The video you posted 100% proves my point. Nothing in the video is security related, Its all privacy points. Getting attacked by scammers, phishing emails, phone calls etc are privacy threats, because you provided your main email, phone number etc where you should not/did not have to. I am saying again privacy is orders of magnitude bigger thread to a common person than an attacker spending resouces and targeting a random person. Please recognize that privacy and security are different things, people obsess with security when its a smaller threat to them.\n
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    /for a good measure, i copied the link you posted and entered into piped.video, example of privacy.
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      I think people assume most attackers are targeting a specific person when in reality they cast a large net and take as much as they can find.\n
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      I think people assume most attackers are targeting a specific person when in reality they cast a large net and take as much as they can find.\n
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      [www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR8SmnVSLCg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR8SmnVSLCg)\n
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      Thats why iOS exploits are so valuable because iphones run on such a narrow band that an exploit is likely to work on all iphone users, regardless of model.
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    The video you posted 100% proves my point. Nothing in the video is security related, Its all privacy points. Getting attacked by scammers, phishing emails, phone calls etc are privacy threats, because you provided your main email, phone number etc where you should not/did not have to. I am saying again privacy is orders of magnitude bigger thread to a common person than an attacker spending resouces and targeting a random person. Please recognize that privacy and security are different things, people obsess with security when its a smaller threat to them.\n
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    Non of the threats in the video would happen if people didnt share their lives, emails, phone numbers etc all online in plain sight. Non of the threats required an attacker to use a vulnerability to enter into pc/phone/network etc.\n
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    **Privacy** - use email aliases for different websites, different phone numbers for 2FA, do not use social media or at least do not post all your life , real identity, email and a phone number on there etc\n
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    **Security** - dont use no longer supported software, use an offline password manager, you still have no chance against 0 day vulnerabilities\n
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    /for a good measure, i copied the link you posted and entered into piped.video, example of privacy.
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