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Response
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IP
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Token
2d5b9a

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
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user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
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Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
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2 
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3 
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4 
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5 
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6 
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7 
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8 
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9 
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10 
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12 
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13 
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14 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
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      \n
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 ACCESS DENIED 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
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      \n
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      I wouldn’t use CentOS for private/ desktop stuff personally.\n
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    Thanks! Yes its a shame that Debian (and Leap?) Will not have Plasma6 in like 6 months where stable release would fit perfectly.\n
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      I wouldn’t use CentOS for private/ desktop stuff personally.\n
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      Do you really need its features? Afaik, the “security” features you mentioned are mainly for server use. At least that’s what I have in my mind right now when I researched possible candidates for my home server some time ago.\n
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    Thanks! Yes its a shame that Debian (and Leap?) Will not have Plasma6 in like 6 months where stable release would fit perfectly.\n
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      I wouldn’t use CentOS for private/ desktop stuff personally.\n
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      Just what you prefer.\n
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    Thanks! Yes its a shame that Debian (and Leap?) Will not have Plasma6 in like 6 months where stable release would fit perfectly.\n
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    That is true, RHEL and Fedora both uses dnf. This is probably why I’m having a hard time getting into RHEL.\n
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