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It feels like no matter where I turn some septuagenarian, or older, is making life miserable for myself and others. Usually these are older white Christian conservatives, obsessed with a delusional sense of reality that no longer has a basis in fact, or perhaps never did.\n
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There is a disproportionate amount of wealth concentrated in the older generation and those who will inherit it will probably be even worse with that money than the last generation. Certainly we see evidence of that already, anyone in their 30’s who has parents who help them out VS those who don’t have that have radically different outcomes. For some reason those lucky enough to come from good families ascribe laziness and bad attitude to those who don’t have the family support, as if they are somehow enjoying “self made success” while mummy does their laundry for them.\n
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It feels like no matter where I turn some septuagenarian, or older, is making life miserable for myself and others. Usually these are older white Christian conservatives, obsessed with a delusional sense of reality that no longer has a basis in fact, or perhaps never did.\n
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There is a disproportionate amount of wealth concentrated in the older generation and those who will inherit it will probably be even worse with that money than the last generation. Certainly we see evidence of that already, anyone in their 30’s who has parents who help them out VS those who don’t have that have radically different outcomes. For some reason those lucky enough to come from good families ascribe laziness and bad attitude to those who don’t have the family support, as if they are somehow enjoying “self made success” while mummy does their laundry for them.\n
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No generation previous needed this kind of assistance well into adulthood, but this infantilisation of working adults has happened because of the hoarding of wealth, refusing to pass on the torch in workplaces and just blocking change for the sake of stoking petty politics. Most of us will never own our own home but all the politicians want to talk about is whether it’s OK to dehumanise trans people or not.\n
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[zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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I wrote a (very long) blog post about those viral math problems and am looking for feedback, especially from people who are not convinced that the problem is ambiguous.\n
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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The answer realistically is determined by where you place implicit multiplication (or "multiplication by juxtaposition") in the order of operations.\n
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Some place it *above* explicit multiplication and division, meaning it gets done before the division giving you an answer of 1\n
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The meme refers to the problem of handling implicit multiplication by juxtaposition. \n
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[zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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The answer realistically is determined by where you place implicit multiplication (or "multiplication by juxtaposition") in the order of operations.\n
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The meme refers to the problem of handling implicit multiplication by juxtaposition. \n
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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The meme refers to the problem of handling implicit multiplication by juxtaposition. \n
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[zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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[zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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I wrote a (very long) blog post about those viral math problems and am looking for feedback, especially from people who are not convinced that the problem is ambiguous.\n
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It’s about a 30min read so thank you in advance if you really take the time to read it, but I think it’s worth it if you joined such discussions in the past, but I’m probably biased because I wrote it :)
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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[zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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I wrote a (very long) blog post about those viral math problems and am looking for feedback, especially from people who are not convinced that the problem is ambiguous.\n
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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The meme refers to the problem of handling implicit multiplication by juxtaposition. \n
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The answer realistically is determined by where you place implicit multiplication (or "multiplication by juxtaposition") in the order of operations.\n
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Edit: Just skimmed that article, and it looks like I did remember the last explanation I heard about these correctly. Yay me!
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[zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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The meme refers to the problem of handling implicit multiplication by juxtaposition. \n
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[zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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The meme refers to the problem of handling implicit multiplication by juxtaposition. \n
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The answer realistically is determined by where you place implicit multiplication (or "multiplication by juxtaposition") in the order of operations.\n
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The meme refers to the problem of handling implicit multiplication by juxtaposition. \n
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[zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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I wrote a (very long) blog post about those viral math problems and am looking for feedback, especially from people who are not convinced that the problem is ambiguous.\n
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It’s about a 30min read so thank you in advance if you really take the time to read it, but I think it’s worth it if you joined such discussions in the past, but I’m probably biased because I wrote it :)
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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[zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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The meme refers to the problem of handling implicit multiplication by juxtaposition. \n
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[zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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[zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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I wrote a (very long) blog post about those viral math problems and am looking for feedback, especially from people who are not convinced that the problem is ambiguous.\n
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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The answer realistically is determined by where you place implicit multiplication (or "multiplication by juxtaposition") in the order of operations.\n
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[zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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[zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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I wrote a (very long) blog post about those viral math problems and am looking for feedback, especially from people who are not convinced that the problem is ambiguous.\n
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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It’s about a 30min read so thank you in advance if you really take the time to read it, but I think it’s worth it if you joined such discussions in the past, but I’m probably biased because I wrote it :)
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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The meme refers to the problem of handling implicit multiplication by juxtaposition. \n
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The answer realistically is determined by where you place implicit multiplication (or "multiplication by juxtaposition") in the order of operations.\n
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Some place it *above* explicit multiplication and division, meaning it gets done before the division giving you an answer of 1\n
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Since those are both valid interpretations of the order of operations dependent on what field you're in, you're always going to end up with disagreements on questions like these...\n
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But in reality nobody would write an equation like this, and even if they did, there would usually be some kind of context (I.e. units) to guide you as to what the answer should be.\n
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Edit: Just skimmed that article, and it looks like I did remember the last explanation I heard about these correctly. Yay me!
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[zeta.one/viral-math/](https://zeta.one/viral-math/)\n
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I wrote a (very long) blog post about those viral math problems and am looking for feedback, especially from people who are not convinced that the problem is ambiguous.\n
\n
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I'll just say it again, you're the one saying this problem is completely unambiguous, with your only explanation as to why being that real people communicate as though that solves every edge case imaginable.\n
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The meme refers to the problem of handling implicit multiplication by juxtaposition. \n
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Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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> Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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Yeah, but we know Grandpa Joe has supppsedly been bed-bound like the other elders for years. He may have once lived an active lifestyle, but he ain't active now, and (especially when you're older) muscle you don't use disappears fast.\n
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Again, chill the fuck out mate, it's way more light-hearted than you're being. Everyone's aware it's a family film.\n
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Yeah, I have - and the ones that could walk were constantly having to sit down, not doing bloody jigs like Joe did upon learning about the Golden Ticket.\n
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Grandpa Joe has significantly more energy than his peers, that much I can tell - and the fact he let his poor family suffer rather than put that energy to use working even just a day a week is part of why I hate Grandpa Joe
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Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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But if you're going to be a pain in the arse about it...\n
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> Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.\n
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It absolutely is cruel to suggest that someone retired should have to pick up their cap, but life can be cruel like that, and I think you're detatched from reality acting like that sort of thing never happens - like nobody ever needs to come out of retirement for any reason ever.\n
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> Forgetting the fact that a retiree has earned their retirement, a company is simply less likely to take on an over 65, either through some judgment of their ability or out of fear that a common workplace slip can turn into a death.\n
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Again, chill the fuck out mate, it's way more light-hearted than you're being. Everyone's aware it's a family film.\n
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Having said that, my perspective is that the world can be cruel at times, and that Grandpa Joe should be doing his part to help his destitute family rather than lying in bed if he's got enough energy to start dancing and singing, and fucking around with his Grandson in a chocolate factory - I think you're out of touch if you think everybody hits 65 and suddenly s financially set for the rest of their lives.\n
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Also, certainly given the original film's setting, I suspect that neither of those would've been a thing yet.
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Yeah, I have - and the ones that could walk were constantly having to sit down, not doing bloody jigs like Joe did upon learning about the Golden Ticket.\n
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Grandpa Joe has significantly more energy than his peers, that much I can tell - and the fact he let his poor family suffer rather than put that energy to use working even just a day a week is part of why I hate Grandpa Joe
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Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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But if you're going to be a pain in the arse about it...\n
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> Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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Yeah, but we know Grandpa Joe has supppsedly been bed-bound like the other elders for years. He may have once lived an active lifestyle, but he ain't active now, and (especially when you're older) muscle you don't use disappears fast.\n
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Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.\n
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It absolutely is cruel to suggest that someone retired should have to pick up their cap, but life can be cruel like that, and I think you're detatched from reality acting like that sort of thing never happens - like nobody ever needs to come out of retirement for any reason ever.\n
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> Forgetting the fact that a retiree has earned their retirement, a company is simply less likely to take on an over 65, either through some judgment of their ability or out of fear that a common workplace slip can turn into a death.\n
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True, but that doesn't stop Grandpa Joe from trying - sure beats watching your family living destitute while you live bed-bound for years full well knowing you don't need to be\n
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> You really need to get some perspective on how the world works, and maybe a hobby that isn’t making ill-informed ultra-literalised criticisms of family films. Next you’ll be saying that Grandpa Joe should learn to code so he can remote hustle from his bed.\n
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Again, chill the fuck out mate, it's way more light-hearted than you're being. Everyone's aware it's a family film.\n
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Having said that, my perspective is that the world can be cruel at times, and that Grandpa Joe should be doing his part to help his destitute family rather than lying in bed if he's got enough energy to start dancing and singing, and fucking around with his Grandson in a chocolate factory - I think you're out of touch if you think everybody hits 65 and suddenly s financially set for the rest of their lives.\n
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Also, certainly given the original film's setting, I suspect that neither of those would've been a thing yet.
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Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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Yeah, I have - and the ones that could walk were constantly having to sit down, not doing bloody jigs like Joe did upon learning about the Golden Ticket.\n
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Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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But if you're going to be a pain in the arse about it...\n
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Yeah, but we know Grandpa Joe has supppsedly been bed-bound like the other elders for years. He may have once lived an active lifestyle, but he ain't active now, and (especially when you're older) muscle you don't use disappears fast.\n
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Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.\n
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Again, chill the fuck out mate, it's way more light-hearted than you're being. Everyone's aware it's a family film.\n
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Also, certainly given the original film's setting, I suspect that neither of those would've been a thing yet.
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Yeah, I have - and the ones that could walk were constantly having to sit down, not doing bloody jigs like Joe did upon learning about the Golden Ticket.\n
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Grandpa Joe has significantly more energy than his peers, that much I can tell - and the fact he let his poor family suffer rather than put that energy to use working even just a day a week is part of why I hate Grandpa Joe
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Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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But if you're going to be a pain in the arse about it...\n
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> Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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Yeah, but we know Grandpa Joe has supppsedly been bed-bound like the other elders for years. He may have once lived an active lifestyle, but he ain't active now, and (especially when you're older) muscle you don't use disappears fast.\n
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Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.\n
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It absolutely is cruel to suggest that someone retired should have to pick up their cap, but life can be cruel like that, and I think you're detatched from reality acting like that sort of thing never happens - like nobody ever needs to come out of retirement for any reason ever.\n
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> Forgetting the fact that a retiree has earned their retirement, a company is simply less likely to take on an over 65, either through some judgment of their ability or out of fear that a common workplace slip can turn into a death.\n
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True, but that doesn't stop Grandpa Joe from trying - sure beats watching your family living destitute while you live bed-bound for years full well knowing you don't need to be\n
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> You really need to get some perspective on how the world works, and maybe a hobby that isn’t making ill-informed ultra-literalised criticisms of family films. Next you’ll be saying that Grandpa Joe should learn to code so he can remote hustle from his bed.\n
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Again, chill the fuck out mate, it's way more light-hearted than you're being. Everyone's aware it's a family film.\n
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Having said that, my perspective is that the world can be cruel at times, and that Grandpa Joe should be doing his part to help his destitute family rather than lying in bed if he's got enough energy to start dancing and singing, and fucking around with his Grandson in a chocolate factory - I think you're out of touch if you think everybody hits 65 and suddenly s financially set for the rest of their lives.\n
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Also, certainly given the original film's setting, I suspect that neither of those would've been a thing yet.
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Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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But if you're going to be a pain in the arse about it...\n
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> Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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Yeah, but we know Grandpa Joe has supppsedly been bed-bound like the other elders for years. He may have once lived an active lifestyle, but he ain't active now, and (especially when you're older) muscle you don't use disappears fast.\n
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Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.\n
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It absolutely is cruel to suggest that someone retired should have to pick up their cap, but life can be cruel like that, and I think you're detatched from reality acting like that sort of thing never happens - like nobody ever needs to come out of retirement for any reason ever.\n
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> Forgetting the fact that a retiree has earned their retirement, a company is simply less likely to take on an over 65, either through some judgment of their ability or out of fear that a common workplace slip can turn into a death.\n
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Again, chill the fuck out mate, it's way more light-hearted than you're being. Everyone's aware it's a family film.\n
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Having said that, my perspective is that the world can be cruel at times, and that Grandpa Joe should be doing his part to help his destitute family rather than lying in bed if he's got enough energy to start dancing and singing, and fucking around with his Grandson in a chocolate factory - I think you're out of touch if you think everybody hits 65 and suddenly s financially set for the rest of their lives.\n
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Also, certainly given the original film's setting, I suspect that neither of those would've been a thing yet.
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Yeah, I have - and the ones that could walk were constantly having to sit down, not doing bloody jigs like Joe did upon learning about the Golden Ticket.\n
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Grandpa Joe has significantly more energy than his peers, that much I can tell - and the fact he let his poor family suffer rather than put that energy to use working even just a day a week is part of why I hate Grandpa Joe
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Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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But if you're going to be a pain in the arse about it...\n
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> Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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Yeah, but we know Grandpa Joe has supppsedly been bed-bound like the other elders for years. He may have once lived an active lifestyle, but he ain't active now, and (especially when you're older) muscle you don't use disappears fast.\n
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> Secondly, if you earnestly believe that a 90 year old, over 20 years into retirement, needs to polish their work boots, get on their bike, and find work to support their family, then you’re either mentally deficient, a child with zero experience of the job market, or a tory. Either way, you’re detached from reality.\n
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Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.\n
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It absolutely is cruel to suggest that someone retired should have to pick up their cap, but life can be cruel like that, and I think you're detatched from reality acting like that sort of thing never happens - like nobody ever needs to come out of retirement for any reason ever.\n
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> Forgetting the fact that a retiree has earned their retirement, a company is simply less likely to take on an over 65, either through some judgment of their ability or out of fear that a common workplace slip can turn into a death.\n
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True, but that doesn't stop Grandpa Joe from trying - sure beats watching your family living destitute while you live bed-bound for years full well knowing you don't need to be\n
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Again, chill the fuck out mate, it's way more light-hearted than you're being. Everyone's aware it's a family film.\n
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Having said that, my perspective is that the world can be cruel at times, and that Grandpa Joe should be doing his part to help his destitute family rather than lying in bed if he's got enough energy to start dancing and singing, and fucking around with his Grandson in a chocolate factory - I think you're out of touch if you think everybody hits 65 and suddenly s financially set for the rest of their lives.\n
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Also, certainly given the original film's setting, I suspect that neither of those would've been a thing yet.
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Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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> Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.\n
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It absolutely is cruel to suggest that someone retired should have to pick up their cap, but life can be cruel like that, and I think you're detatched from reality acting like that sort of thing never happens - like nobody ever needs to come out of retirement for any reason ever.\n
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Again, chill the fuck out mate, it's way more light-hearted than you're being. Everyone's aware it's a family film.\n
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Having said that, my perspective is that the world can be cruel at times, and that Grandpa Joe should be doing his part to help his destitute family rather than lying in bed if he's got enough energy to start dancing and singing, and fucking around with his Grandson in a chocolate factory - I think you're out of touch if you think everybody hits 65 and suddenly s financially set for the rest of their lives.\n
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Also, certainly given the original film's setting, I suspect that neither of those would've been a thing yet.
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Yeah, I have - and the ones that could walk were constantly having to sit down, not doing bloody jigs like Joe did upon learning about the Golden Ticket.\n
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Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.\n
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It absolutely is cruel to suggest that someone retired should have to pick up their cap, but life can be cruel like that, and I think you're detatched from reality acting like that sort of thing never happens - like nobody ever needs to come out of retirement for any reason ever.\n
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Yeah, I have - and the ones that could walk were constantly having to sit down, not doing bloody jigs like Joe did upon learning about the Golden Ticket.\n
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Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.\n
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It absolutely is cruel to suggest that someone retired should have to pick up their cap, but life can be cruel like that, and I think you're detatched from reality acting like that sort of thing never happens - like nobody ever needs to come out of retirement for any reason ever.\n
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Again, chill the fuck out mate, it's way more light-hearted than you're being. Everyone's aware it's a family film.\n
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Having said that, my perspective is that the world can be cruel at times, and that Grandpa Joe should be doing his part to help his destitute family rather than lying in bed if he's got enough energy to start dancing and singing, and fucking around with his Grandson in a chocolate factory - I think you're out of touch if you think everybody hits 65 and suddenly s financially set for the rest of their lives.\n
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Yeah, I have - and the ones that could walk were constantly having to sit down, not doing bloody jigs like Joe did upon learning about the Golden Ticket.\n
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Bloody heck mate, lighten up a bit. Everyone hating on Grandpa Joe is aware it's a family film, it's just a rather conspicuous plot-hole that he went from not moving for years to prancing and dancing about.\n
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> Firstly, you mischaracterise the elderly, maybe from a myopic view based on personal anecdotes. People who live active lives before retirement tend to live relatively active lives after retirement. The reason they may choose to live more cautious lifestyles is because mundane injuries for a young person can spell a death sentence for the elderly. In over 65s, a simple fall can lead to a hip fracture, which has a one-year mortality rate of 21% if the patient undergoes surgery; this mortality rate rises to 70% if they do not undergo surgery.\n
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Yeah, but we know Grandpa Joe has supppsedly been bed-bound like the other elders for years. He may have once lived an active lifestyle, but he ain't active now, and (especially when you're older) muscle you don't use disappears fast.\n
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Damn, you really throwing the word Tory around like that... I'm firmly working class, I know struggle - and I do think that if you're barely hanging onto existence like Charlie's family is, then anyone who can be working should be for the sake of your family to improve life even just a little bit.\n
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It absolutely is cruel to suggest that someone retired should have to pick up their cap, but life can be cruel like that, and I think you're detatched from reality acting like that sort of thing never happens - like nobody ever needs to come out of retirement for any reason ever.\n
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True, but that doesn't stop Grandpa Joe from trying - sure beats watching your family living destitute while you live bed-bound for years full well knowing you don't need to be\n
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Again, chill the fuck out mate, it's way more light-hearted than you're being. Everyone's aware it's a family film.\n
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Having said that, my perspective is that the world can be cruel at times, and that Grandpa Joe should be doing his part to help his destitute family rather than lying in bed if he's got enough energy to start dancing and singing, and fucking around with his Grandson in a chocolate factory - I think you're out of touch if you think everybody hits 65 and suddenly s financially set for the rest of their lives.\n
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Also, certainly given the original film's setting, I suspect that neither of those would've been a thing yet.
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