GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/u/@actual_patience@programming.dev/top

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.34
Profiled on
Token
2e4cfc

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 8.60 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.07 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2236
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2788 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2383 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1562 …}
  +slug: "How-are-you-all-making-it-right-now-with-grocery"
  +title: "How are you all making it right now with grocery store prices?"
  +url: null
  +body: "I don’t know how they think we’re all going to survive with these prices."
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 108
  +favouriteCount: 223
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1729574713 {#2821
    date: 2024-10-22 07:25:13.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2826 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2829 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2831 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2833 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2835 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2837 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2240
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2236 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2383 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "Bulk buys"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 3
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1729416879 {#2242
        date: 2024-10-20 11:34:39.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@return2ozma@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2233 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2234 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2237 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2258 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2254 …}
      -id: 349457
      -bodyTs: "'bulk':1 'buy':2"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://programming.dev/comment/6946278"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1706524867 {#2239
        date: 2024-01-29 11:41:07.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 349457
    }
  ]
  -id: 33728
  -titleTs: "'groceri':10 'make':5 'price':12 'right':7 'store':11"
  -bodyTs: "'go':11 'know':4 'price':16 're':9 'surviv':13 'think':7"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1706570895
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/11307754"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1706484495 {#2809
    date: 2024-01-29 00:28:15.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2236
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2788 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2383 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1562 …}
  +slug: "How-are-you-all-making-it-right-now-with-grocery"
  +title: "How are you all making it right now with grocery store prices?"
  +url: null
  +body: "I don’t know how they think we’re all going to survive with these prices."
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 108
  +favouriteCount: 223
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1729574713 {#2821
    date: 2024-10-22 07:25:13.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2826 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2829 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2831 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2833 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2835 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2837 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2240
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2236 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2383 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "Bulk buys"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 3
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1729416879 {#2242
        date: 2024-10-20 11:34:39.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@return2ozma@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2233 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2234 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2237 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2258 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2254 …}
      -id: 349457
      -bodyTs: "'bulk':1 'buy':2"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://programming.dev/comment/6946278"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1706524867 {#2239
        date: 2024-01-29 11:41:07.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 349457
    }
  ]
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  -titleTs: "'groceri':10 'make':5 'price':12 'right':7 'store':11"
  -bodyTs: "'go':11 'know':4 'price':16 're':9 'surviv':13 'think':7"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1706570895
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/11307754"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1706484495 {#2809
    date: 2024-01-29 00:28:15.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2236
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2788 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2383 …}
  +image: null
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1562 …}
  +slug: "How-are-you-all-making-it-right-now-with-grocery"
  +title: "How are you all making it right now with grocery store prices?"
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  +body: "I don’t know how they think we’re all going to survive with these prices."
  +type: "article"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: false
  +commentCount: 108
  +favouriteCount: 223
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1729574713 {#2821
    date: 2024-10-22 07:25:13.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: null
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2826 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2829 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2831 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2833 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2835 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2837 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2240
      +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2236 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2383 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: null
      +root: null
      +body: "Bulk buys"
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 3
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1729416879 {#2242
        date: 2024-10-20 11:34:39.0 +02:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@return2ozma@lemmy.world"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2233 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2234 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2237 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2258 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2254 …}
      -id: 349457
      -bodyTs: "'bulk':1 'buy':2"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://programming.dev/comment/6946278"
      +editedAt: null
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1706524867 {#2239
        date: 2024-01-29 11:41:07.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 349457
    }
  ]
  -id: 33728
  -titleTs: "'groceri':10 'make':5 'price':12 'right':7 'store':11"
  -bodyTs: "'go':11 'know':4 'price':16 're':9 'surviv':13 'think':7"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1706570895
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/11307754"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1706484495 {#2809
    date: 2024-01-29 00:28:15.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
5 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
6 DENIED moderate 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2240
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  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2236
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    +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2383 …}
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1562 …}
    +slug: "How-are-you-all-making-it-right-now-with-grocery"
    +title: "How are you all making it right now with grocery store prices?"
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    +body: "I don’t know how they think we’re all going to survive with these prices."
    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 108
    +favouriteCount: 223
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1729574713 {#2821
      date: 2024-10-22 07:25:13.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2826 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2829 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2831 …}
    +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2833 …}
    +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2835 …}
    +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2837 …}
    +children: [
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    -id: 33728
    -titleTs: "'groceri':10 'make':5 'price':12 'right':7 'store':11"
    -bodyTs: "'go':11 'know':4 'price':16 're':9 'surviv':13 'think':7"
    +cross: false
    +upVotes: 0
    +downVotes: 0
    +ranking: 1706570895
    +visibility: "visible             "
    +apId: "https://lemmy.world/post/11307754"
    +editedAt: null
    +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1706484495 {#2809
      date: 2024-01-29 00:28:15.0 +01:00
    }
    +__isInitialized__: true
     …2
  }
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  +image: null
  +parent: null
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  +lang: "en"
  +isAdult: false
  +favouriteCount: 3
  +score: 0
  +lastActive: DateTime @1729416879 {#2242
    date: 2024-10-20 11:34:39.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
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  ]
  +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2233 …}
  +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2234 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2237 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2258 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2260 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2254 …}
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  +ranking: 0
  +commentCount: 0
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  +downVotes: 0
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://programming.dev/comment/6946278"
  +editedAt: null
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1706524867 {#2239
    date: 2024-01-29 11:41:07.0 +01:00
  }
  +"title": 349457
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
7 DENIED edit 
App\Entity\EntryComment {#2240
  +user: App\Entity\User {#265 …}
  +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2236
    +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2788 …}
    +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#2383 …}
    +image: null
    +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#1562 …}
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    +type: "article"
    +lang: "en"
    +isOc: false
    +hasEmbed: false
    +commentCount: 108
    +favouriteCount: 223
    +score: 0
    +isAdult: false
    +sticky: false
    +lastActive: DateTime @1729574713 {#2821
      date: 2024-10-22 07:25:13.0 +02:00
    }
    +ip: null
    +adaAmount: 0
    +tags: null
    +mentions: null
    +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2826 …}
    +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2829 …}
    +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2831 …}
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    TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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        > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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        > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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        > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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        If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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      +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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        Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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        > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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        Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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        > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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        Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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        So as long as it’s cheaper to pay a fee to continue to use an open-source software than it is to hire a group of developers to produce and maintain the same thing, the idea is viable.
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        > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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        It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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        I suppose you can split this into two separate arguments:\n
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        - Swap from licenses to more enforceable contracts\n
        - Have companies pay open source devs
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        > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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        How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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        > Actually, maybe making it a realistic possibility to drop in a recompiled replacement should be a part of the GPL. I remember people were talking about this decades ago\n
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        It does feel out of place how that isn’t in the GPL.
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        If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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        You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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        Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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      +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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        Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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        I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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    TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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        > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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        > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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        > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
        \n
        It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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        I suppose you can split this into two separate arguments:\n
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        - Have companies pay open source devs
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        > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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        How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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        If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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        You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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        Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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        I just included the idea he is proposing, others can read the article to see his reasoning.
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      +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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        Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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        I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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          Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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        +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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          I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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    > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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    Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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    > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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    Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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    So as long as it’s cheaper to pay a fee to continue to use an open-source software than it is to hire a group of developers to produce and maintain the same thing, the idea is viable.
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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          Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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        +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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          I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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    > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
    \n
    Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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    > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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    Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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    So as long as it’s cheaper to pay a fee to continue to use an open-source software than it is to hire a group of developers to produce and maintain the same thing, the idea is viable.
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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      It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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          Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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        +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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    > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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    Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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    > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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    Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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    So as long as it’s cheaper to pay a fee to continue to use an open-source software than it is to hire a group of developers to produce and maintain the same thing, the idea is viable.
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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          I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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    > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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    It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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    I suppose you can split this into two separate arguments:\n
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    - Swap from licenses to more enforceable contracts\n
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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        +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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    > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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    It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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    I suppose you can split this into two separate arguments:\n
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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      It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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          Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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        +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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          I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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    > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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    It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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        +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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    > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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    How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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      It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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      What are your thoughts on it?
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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          Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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          I just included the idea he is proposing, others can read the article to see his reasoning.
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        +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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          I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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    > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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    How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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    > Actually, maybe making it a realistic possibility to drop in a recompiled replacement should be a part of the GPL. I remember people were talking about this decades ago\n
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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      It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
          \n
          It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
          \n
          I suppose you can split this into two separate arguments:\n
          \n
          - Swap from licenses to more enforceable contracts\n
          - Have companies pay open source devs
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
          \n
          You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
          \n
          Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
          \n
          I just included the idea he is proposing, others can read the article to see his reasoning.
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        +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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          I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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    > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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    How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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    It does feel out of place how that isn’t in the GPL.
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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          I suppose you can split this into two separate arguments:\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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          Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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        +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          > Actually, maybe making it a realistic possibility to drop in a recompiled replacement should be a part of the GPL. I remember people were talking about this decades ago\n
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          It does feel out of place how that isn’t in the GPL.
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
          \n
          Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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          I just included the idea he is proposing, others can read the article to see his reasoning.
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        +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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          I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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      It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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      What are your thoughts on it?
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
          \n
          Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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          I just included the idea he is proposing, others can read the article to see his reasoning.
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        +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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          I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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      It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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      What are your thoughts on it?
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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    If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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    You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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    Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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      It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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      What are your thoughts on it?
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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    If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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    You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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    Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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      It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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      What are your thoughts on it?
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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        +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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    If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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    You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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    Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
          \n
          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
          \n
          It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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          I suppose you can split this into two separate arguments:\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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          Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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          I just included the idea he is proposing, others can read the article to see his reasoning.
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        +body: "The fee could be really small but scale depending on factors like business size. Or there could be no fee outright for businesses smaller than a certain size."
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
          \n
          It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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          I suppose you can split this into two separate arguments:\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          > Actually, maybe making it a realistic possibility to drop in a recompiled replacement should be a part of the GPL. I remember people were talking about this decades ago\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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          Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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          I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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          Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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          I just included the idea he is proposing, others can read the article to see his reasoning.
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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          I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
          \n
          Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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          I just included the idea he is proposing, others can read the article to see his reasoning.
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          Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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          I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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      It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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      What are your thoughts on it?
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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    Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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    I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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      It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          It’s more that they avoid the spirit of the licensing, not the terms (except Red Hat of course).\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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          Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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    Well the question is, how would such a license look like? Or would it be a contract and not a license?\n
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    I guess I should ask a lawyer these questions, but I wanted to see what others here thought about the idea.
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      TLDR: Companies should be required to pay developers for any open source software they use.\n
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      > He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they’d fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that’s usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.\n
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      It’s an interesting concept, but I don’t really see any feasible means to get this to kick off.\n
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      What are your thoughts on it?
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          > they only use Linux because it’s free. Companies create hardware on Linux because it’s free\n
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          Companies use open source software because it’s the cheapest option. It’s all about margins.\n
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          > Nearly all of FOSS is funded by corporations whether you like it or not\n
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          Yes, and FOSS can get a lot more funding if they charged companies even a little bit.\n
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          > If current licenses have the problem that big companies just ignore the terms set out in the license, I wouldn’t imagine making a new sort of license with different terms like “big companies have to pay to get the benefit of using Pots-Open Source software” is really going to work.\n
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          > In my opinion, the issue is that a cell phone is such a free-software-hostile environment that arguably GPL software shouldn’t “be allowed to” come into contact with it in any capacity if the spirit of the GPL were being upheld.\n
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          How are phones free-software-hostile? I know IOS is, but Android not really. There’s a list of open source Android distributions. Although not very good, they are viable.\n
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          If you had also read the article BTW you would have realized that **spoilers**: it’s not about source code availability.\n
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          You saw the first few paragraphs about the Red Hat drama and didn’t read further.\n
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          Reading the whole thing you’d realize it’s a list of reasons why open source software hasn’t become popular with the wider public, and his proposed solution to this.\n
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          I just included the idea he is proposing, others can read the article to see his reasoning.
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          > Mount options also only take effect on the first mount of the device. Since it looks like you only have 1 btrfs device - only / needs the options, really.\n
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          I didn’t know this. Thanks!
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    > “subvolume - cannot be snapshotted if it contains any active swapfiles”\n
    \n
    Make a subvolume only for the swapfile.\n
    \n
    > has a chance to fragment\n
    \n
    This is true for all files. Is it a bigger problem for swap?\n
    \n
    > has issues with hibernation (that I’ve personally encountered multiple times)\n
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    This one I can’t refute. How long ago did you have these issues?
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