GET https://kbin.spritesserver.nl/index.php/u/@fossisfun@lemmy.ml/active

Response
200 OK
IP
216.73.216.46
Profiled on
Token
3506e9

Security

Token

There is no security token.

Firewall

main Name
Security enabled
Stateless

Configuration

Key Value
provider security.user.provider.concrete.app_user_provider
context main
entry_point App\Security\KbinAuthenticator
user_checker App\Security\UserChecker
access_denied_handler (none)
access_denied_url (none)
authenticators 
[
  "two_factor"
  "remember_me"
  "App\Security\KbinAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\FacebookAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GoogleAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\GithubAuthenticator"
  "App\Security\KeycloakAuthenticator"
]

Listeners

Listener Duration Response 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ChannelListener {#723
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -httpPort: 80
  -httpsPort: 443
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\ContextListener {#706
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\TokenStorage {#1017 …}
  -sessionKey: "_security_main"
  -logger: Monolog\Logger {#783 …}
  -userProviders: Symfony\Component\DependencyInjection\Argument\RewindableGenerator {#705 …}
  -dispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
  -registered: false
  -trustResolver: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authentication\AuthenticationTrustResolver {#780 …}
  -sessionTrackerEnabler: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage::enableUsageTracking(): void {#703 …}
}
 6.61 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AuthenticatorManagerListener {#584
  -authenticatorManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Authentication\AuthenticatorManager {#595 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Http\Firewall\TwoFactorAccessListener {#582
  -twoFactorFirewallConfig: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\TwoFactor\TwoFactorFirewallConfig {#842 …}
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -twoFactorAccessDecider: Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\TwoFactorAccessDecider {#581 …}
}
 0.15 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\AccessListener {#579
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -accessDecisionManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\TraceableAccessDecisionManager {#937 …}
  -map: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\AccessMap {#722 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none) 
Symfony\Component\Security\Http\Firewall\LogoutListener {#786
  -tokenStorage: Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authentication\Token\Storage\UsageTrackingTokenStorage {#1018 …}
  -options: [
    "csrf_parameter" => "_csrf_token"
    "csrf_token_id" => "logout"
    "logout_path" => "app_logout"
  ]
  -httpUtils: Symfony\Component\Security\Http\HttpUtils {#841 …}
  -csrfTokenManager: Symfony\Component\Security\Csrf\CsrfTokenManager {#1015 …}
  -eventDispatcher: Symfony\Component\EventDispatcher\Debug\TraceableEventDispatcher {#747 …}
}
 0.00 ms (none)

Authenticators

No authenticators have been recorded. Check previous profiles on your authentication endpoint.

Access Decision

affirmative Strategy
# Voter class
1 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\AuthenticatedVoter"
2 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
3 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
4 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\ExpressionVoter"
5 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
6 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
7 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
8 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
9 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
10 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
11 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
12 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
13 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
14 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"

Access decision log

# Result Attributes Object
1 DENIED ROLE_USER 
null
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"Symfony\Component\Security\Core\Authorization\Voter\RoleHierarchyVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
2 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2216
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2664 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1561 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2687 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2762 …}
  +slug: "OpenSSH-is-about-to-change-For-the-better"
  +title: "OpenSSH is about to change. (For the better.)"
  +url: "https://youtu.be/tdfBbpJPTGc"
  +body: """
    OpenSSH’s `ssh-keygen` command just got a great upgrade.\n
    \n
    New video from @vkc@mspsocial.net\n
    \n
    ---\n
    \n
    Edit:\n
    \n
    She has a peertube channel: [!veronicaexplains@tinkerbetter.tube](https://tinkerbetter.tube/video-channels/veronicaexplains) and it federatess as a Lemmy Community\n
    \n
    The Peertube video in Lemmy.ml: [lemmy.ml/post/8842820](https://lemmy.ml/post/8842820)\n
    \n
    [Link to the video in your instance](/search?q=https://tinkerbetter.tube/videos/watch/545674bb-30c5-4668-b488-10c7d5829ede).
    """
  +type: "video"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 33
  +favouriteCount: 300
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1726268462 {#2293
    date: 2024-09-14 01:01:02.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@vkc@mspsocial.net"
  ]
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2747 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2749 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2753 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2790 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2786 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2803 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2227
      +user: App\Entity\User {#263 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2216 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1561 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2214 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2213 …}
      +body: """
        Actually it is the same story with TLS 1.3 and TLS 1.2. A bunch of sites still doesn’t support TLS 1.3 (e. g. arstechnica.com, startpage.com) and some of them only support TLS 1.2 with RSA (e. g. startpage.com).\n
        \n
        You can try this yourself in Firefox by disabling [ciphers](https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Server_Side_TLS) (search for `security.ssl3` in `about:config`) or by setting the minimum TLS version to 1.3 (`security.tls.version.min` = `4` in `about:config`).
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 9
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701689487 {#2224
        date: 2023-12-04 12:31:27.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@vkc@mspsocial.net"
        "@ademir@lemmy.eco.br"
        "@lntl@lemmy.ml"
        "@aard@kyu.de"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2225 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2231 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2229 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2252 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2189 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2311 …}
      -id: 195164
      -bodyTs: "'/security/server_side_tls)':52 '1.2':12,34 '1.3':9,22,67 '4':69 'actual':1 'arstechnica.com':25 'bunch':14 'cipher':49 'config':58,72 'disabl':48 'doesn':18 'e':23,37 'firefox':46 'g':24,38 'minimum':63 'rsa':36 'search':53 'security.ssl3':55 'security.tls.version.min':68 'set':61 'site':16 'startpage.com':26,39 'still':17 'stori':6 'support':20,32 'tls':8,11,21,33,64 'tri':42 'version':65 'wiki.mozilla.org':51 'wiki.mozilla.org/security/server_side_tls)':50"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/comment/6364336"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1702906128 {#2198
        date: 2023-12-18 14:28:48.0 +01:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701689487 {#2223
        date: 2023-12-04 12:31:27.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 195164
    }
  ]
  -id: 19863
  -titleTs: "'better':8 'chang':5 'openssh':1"
  -bodyTs: "'/post/8842820](https://lemmy.ml/post/8842820)':40 '/search':48 '/video-channels/veronicaexplains)':25 '/videos/watch/545674bb-30c5-4668-b488-10c7d5829ede).':52 'channel':21 'command':6 'communiti':32 'edit':16 'federatess':28 'got':8 'great':10 'instanc':47 'keygen':5 'lemmi':31 'lemmy.ml':37,39 'lemmy.ml/post/8842820](https://lemmy.ml/post/8842820)':38 'link':41 'new':12 'openssh':1 'peertub':20,34 'q':49 'ssh':4 'ssh-keygen':3 'tinkerbetter.tube':24,51 'tinkerbetter.tube/video-channels/veronicaexplains)':23 'tinkerbetter.tube/videos/watch/545674bb-30c5-4668-b488-10c7d5829ede).':50 'upgrad':11 'veronicaexplains@tinkerbetter.tube':22 'video':13,35,44 'vkc@mspsocial.net':15"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1701735768
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.eco.br/post/2042378"
  +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1702834495 {#2577
    date: 2023-12-17 18:34:55.0 +01:00
  }
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701649368 {#2507
    date: 2023-12-04 01:22:48.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
3 DENIED edit 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2216
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2664 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1561 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2687 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2762 …}
  +slug: "OpenSSH-is-about-to-change-For-the-better"
  +title: "OpenSSH is about to change. (For the better.)"
  +url: "https://youtu.be/tdfBbpJPTGc"
  +body: """
    OpenSSH’s `ssh-keygen` command just got a great upgrade.\n
    \n
    New video from @vkc@mspsocial.net\n
    \n
    ---\n
    \n
    Edit:\n
    \n
    She has a peertube channel: [!veronicaexplains@tinkerbetter.tube](https://tinkerbetter.tube/video-channels/veronicaexplains) and it federatess as a Lemmy Community\n
    \n
    The Peertube video in Lemmy.ml: [lemmy.ml/post/8842820](https://lemmy.ml/post/8842820)\n
    \n
    [Link to the video in your instance](/search?q=https://tinkerbetter.tube/videos/watch/545674bb-30c5-4668-b488-10c7d5829ede).
    """
  +type: "video"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 33
  +favouriteCount: 300
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1726268462 {#2293
    date: 2024-09-14 01:01:02.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@vkc@mspsocial.net"
  ]
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2747 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2749 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2753 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2790 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2786 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2803 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2227
      +user: App\Entity\User {#263 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2216 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1561 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2214 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2213 …}
      +body: """
        Actually it is the same story with TLS 1.3 and TLS 1.2. A bunch of sites still doesn’t support TLS 1.3 (e. g. arstechnica.com, startpage.com) and some of them only support TLS 1.2 with RSA (e. g. startpage.com).\n
        \n
        You can try this yourself in Firefox by disabling [ciphers](https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Server_Side_TLS) (search for `security.ssl3` in `about:config`) or by setting the minimum TLS version to 1.3 (`security.tls.version.min` = `4` in `about:config`).
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 9
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701689487 {#2224
        date: 2023-12-04 12:31:27.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@vkc@mspsocial.net"
        "@ademir@lemmy.eco.br"
        "@lntl@lemmy.ml"
        "@aard@kyu.de"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2225 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2231 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2229 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2252 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2189 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2311 …}
      -id: 195164
      -bodyTs: "'/security/server_side_tls)':52 '1.2':12,34 '1.3':9,22,67 '4':69 'actual':1 'arstechnica.com':25 'bunch':14 'cipher':49 'config':58,72 'disabl':48 'doesn':18 'e':23,37 'firefox':46 'g':24,38 'minimum':63 'rsa':36 'search':53 'security.ssl3':55 'security.tls.version.min':68 'set':61 'site':16 'startpage.com':26,39 'still':17 'stori':6 'support':20,32 'tls':8,11,21,33,64 'tri':42 'version':65 'wiki.mozilla.org':51 'wiki.mozilla.org/security/server_side_tls)':50"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
      +downVotes: 0
      +visibility: "visible             "
      +apId: "https://lemmy.ml/comment/6364336"
      +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1702906128 {#2198
        date: 2023-12-18 14:28:48.0 +01:00
      }
      +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701689487 {#2223
        date: 2023-12-04 12:31:27.0 +01:00
      }
      +"title": 195164
    }
  ]
  -id: 19863
  -titleTs: "'better':8 'chang':5 'openssh':1"
  -bodyTs: "'/post/8842820](https://lemmy.ml/post/8842820)':40 '/search':48 '/video-channels/veronicaexplains)':25 '/videos/watch/545674bb-30c5-4668-b488-10c7d5829ede).':52 'channel':21 'command':6 'communiti':32 'edit':16 'federatess':28 'got':8 'great':10 'instanc':47 'keygen':5 'lemmi':31 'lemmy.ml':37,39 'lemmy.ml/post/8842820](https://lemmy.ml/post/8842820)':38 'link':41 'new':12 'openssh':1 'peertub':20,34 'q':49 'ssh':4 'ssh-keygen':3 'tinkerbetter.tube':24,51 'tinkerbetter.tube/video-channels/veronicaexplains)':23 'tinkerbetter.tube/videos/watch/545674bb-30c5-4668-b488-10c7d5829ede).':50 'upgrad':11 'veronicaexplains@tinkerbetter.tube':22 'video':13,35,44 'vkc@mspsocial.net':15"
  +cross: false
  +upVotes: 0
  +downVotes: 0
  +ranking: 1701735768
  +visibility: "visible             "
  +apId: "https://lemmy.eco.br/post/2042378"
  +editedAt: DateTimeImmutable @1702834495 {#2577
    date: 2023-12-17 18:34:55.0 +01:00
  }
  +createdAt: DateTimeImmutable @1701649368 {#2507
    date: 2023-12-04 01:22:48.0 +01:00
  }
  +__isInitialized__: true
   …2
}
 
"Scheb\TwoFactorBundle\Security\Authorization\Voter\TwoFactorInProgressVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\EntryVoter"
 ACCESS DENIED 
"App\Security\Voter\MagazineVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageThreadVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\MessageVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\NotificationVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\OAuth2UserConsentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostCommentVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\PostVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN 
"App\Security\Voter\UserVoter"
 ACCESS ABSTAIN
Show voter details
4 DENIED moderate 
Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2216
  +user: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\User {#2664 …}
  +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1561 …}
  +image: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Image {#2687 …}
  +domain: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Domain {#2762 …}
  +slug: "OpenSSH-is-about-to-change-For-the-better"
  +title: "OpenSSH is about to change. (For the better.)"
  +url: "https://youtu.be/tdfBbpJPTGc"
  +body: """
    OpenSSH’s `ssh-keygen` command just got a great upgrade.\n
    \n
    New video from @vkc@mspsocial.net\n
    \n
    ---\n
    \n
    Edit:\n
    \n
    She has a peertube channel: [!veronicaexplains@tinkerbetter.tube](https://tinkerbetter.tube/video-channels/veronicaexplains) and it federatess as a Lemmy Community\n
    \n
    The Peertube video in Lemmy.ml: [lemmy.ml/post/8842820](https://lemmy.ml/post/8842820)\n
    \n
    [Link to the video in your instance](/search?q=https://tinkerbetter.tube/videos/watch/545674bb-30c5-4668-b488-10c7d5829ede).
    """
  +type: "video"
  +lang: "en"
  +isOc: false
  +hasEmbed: true
  +commentCount: 33
  +favouriteCount: 300
  +score: 0
  +isAdult: false
  +sticky: false
  +lastActive: DateTime @1726268462 {#2293
    date: 2024-09-14 01:01:02.0 +02:00
  }
  +ip: null
  +adaAmount: 0
  +tags: null
  +mentions: [
    "@vkc@mspsocial.net"
  ]
  +comments: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2747 …}
  +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2749 …}
  +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2753 …}
  +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2790 …}
  +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2786 …}
  +badges: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2803 …}
  +children: [
    App\Entity\EntryComment {#2227
      +user: App\Entity\User {#263 …}
      +entry: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Entry {#2216 …2}
      +magazine: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\Magazine {#1561 …}
      +image: null
      +parent: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2214 …}
      +root: Proxies\__CG__\App\Entity\EntryComment {#2213 …}
      +body: """
        Actually it is the same story with TLS 1.3 and TLS 1.2. A bunch of sites still doesn’t support TLS 1.3 (e. g. arstechnica.com, startpage.com) and some of them only support TLS 1.2 with RSA (e. g. startpage.com).\n
        \n
        You can try this yourself in Firefox by disabling [ciphers](https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Server_Side_TLS) (search for `security.ssl3` in `about:config`) or by setting the minimum TLS version to 1.3 (`security.tls.version.min` = `4` in `about:config`).
        """
      +lang: "en"
      +isAdult: false
      +favouriteCount: 9
      +score: 0
      +lastActive: DateTime @1701689487 {#2224
        date: 2023-12-04 12:31:27.0 +01:00
      }
      +ip: null
      +tags: null
      +mentions: [
        "@vkc@mspsocial.net"
        "@ademir@lemmy.eco.br"
        "@lntl@lemmy.ml"
        "@aard@kyu.de"
      ]
      +children: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2225 …}
      +nested: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2231 …}
      +votes: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2229 …}
      +reports: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2252 …}
      +favourites: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2189 …}
      +notifications: Doctrine\ORM\PersistentCollection {#2311 …}
      -id: 195164
      -bodyTs: "'/security/server_side_tls)':52 '1.2':12,34 '1.3':9,22,67 '4':69 'actual':1 'arstechnica.com':25 'bunch':14 'cipher':49 'config':58,72 'disabl':48 'doesn':18 'e':23,37 'firefox':46 'g':24,38 'minimum':63 'rsa':36 'search':53 'security.ssl3':55 'security.tls.version.min':68 'set':61 'site':16 'startpage.com':26,39 'still':17 'stori':6 'support':20,32 'tls':8,11,21,33,64 'tri':42 'version':65 'wiki.mozilla.org':51 'wiki.mozilla.org/security/server_side_tls)':50"
      +ranking: 0
      +commentCount: 0
      +upVotes: 0
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          In my opinion Plasma has gotten much better with the last couple of releases. Around 5.21 the defaults actually got pretty good and since 5.24 Wayland support is quite good, on par with GNOME in my opinion.\n
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        There are lots of other desktops, like Cinnamon, that offer a traditional desktop experience within the GTK ecosystem. There is also plenty of room for desktops, like GNOME, that have a different philosophy and feature set.\n
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        In my opinion it would be boring, if every desktop tried to do the same thing. And there wouldn’t be any innovation, if no one tried to do things differently.
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        > Because GNOME is the only DE with some potential and by not having 2 or 3 simple optional features aren’t getting more traction.\n
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        But everyone has different requirements and my “2 or 3 simple optional features” that are missing are completely different than what you think is missing. I couldn’t care less about desktop icons or system trays. I even prefer not having a system tray, as this functionality should be provided via notifications and regular application shortcuts in my opinion.\n
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        But in the end, a software project only has a limited amount of resources available and developers have to decide where they want to focus on. GNOME chose not to focus on desktop icons:\n
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        > GNOME had icons, v3.28 discontinued them\n
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        [Because](https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/gnome-desktop-icons-removed-3-28) the code was “old and unmaintained” and probably no one was willing to modernise and maintain it. Desktop icons were already disabled by default before 3.28, so they didn’t “re-invent” this feature with the removal of the code in Nautilus.\n
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        > Using other DE doesn’t make much sense as you’ll inevitable run in GTK and parts of GNOME and having to mix and match to get a working desktop experience.\n
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        I use GNOME and KDE and use the same applications (as Flatpaks) on both desktops: I use GNOME Calculator on KDE, because I dislike both KDE calculators, and I use Ark on GNOME with a Nautilus script, as File Roller doesn’t allow me to set the compression ratio (I need to create zip files with 0 compression for modding games). So for me it has become the norm to mix applications created with different toolkits. Thanks to Flatpak I still have a “clean” base system though.\n
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        Btw. I am getting tired of these re-occurring complaints that GNOME works differently than other desktops. I am not constantly complaining about what features KDE is, in my opinion, missing all the time either (e. g. dynamic workspaces, same wallpaper and desktop configuration across all existing and new monitors, online account integration, command line config tool, etc.), instead I accept that this is how it is at the moment and either use KDE the way it is (like I do on my desktop PC) or use something that better suits my needs (like I do on all my laptops).
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        > Innovation or regression?\n
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        Innovation doesn’t necessarily mean that all past functionality needs to be carried over. Actually innovation often means that past technology becomes obsolete and gets replaced with something new.\n
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        > Gnome used to have optional desktop icons. They removed them.\n
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        Because it takes manpower to develop and maintain these features?\n
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        > Because GNOME is the only DE with some potential and by not having 2 or 3 simple optional features aren’t getting more traction.\n
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        [Because](https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/gnome-desktop-icons-removed-3-28) the code was “old and unmaintained” and probably no one was willing to modernise and maintain it. Desktop icons were already disabled by default before 3.28, so they didn’t “re-invent” this feature with the removal of the code in Nautilus.\n
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        > Using other DE doesn’t make much sense as you’ll inevitable run in GTK and parts of GNOME and having to mix and match to get a working desktop experience.\n
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        I use GNOME and KDE and use the same applications (as Flatpaks) on both desktops: I use GNOME Calculator on KDE, because I dislike both KDE calculators, and I use Ark on GNOME with a Nautilus script, as File Roller doesn’t allow me to set the compression ratio (I need to create zip files with 0 compression for modding games). So for me it has become the norm to mix applications created with different toolkits. Thanks to Flatpak I still have a “clean” base system though.\n
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        > Innovation or regression?\n
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        Because it takes manpower to develop and maintain these features?\n
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        > Because GNOME is the only DE with some potential and by not having 2 or 3 simple optional features aren’t getting more traction.\n
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        But everyone has different requirements and my “2 or 3 simple optional features” that are missing are completely different than what you think is missing. I couldn’t care less about desktop icons or system trays. I even prefer not having a system tray, as this functionality should be provided via notifications and regular application shortcuts in my opinion.\n
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        But in the end, a software project only has a limited amount of resources available and developers have to decide where they want to focus on. GNOME chose not to focus on desktop icons:\n
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        > GNOME had icons, v3.28 discontinued them\n
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        [Because](https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/gnome-desktop-icons-removed-3-28) the code was “old and unmaintained” and probably no one was willing to modernise and maintain it. Desktop icons were already disabled by default before 3.28, so they didn’t “re-invent” this feature with the removal of the code in Nautilus.\n
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        > Using other DE doesn’t make much sense as you’ll inevitable run in GTK and parts of GNOME and having to mix and match to get a working desktop experience.\n
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        I use GNOME and KDE and use the same applications (as Flatpaks) on both desktops: I use GNOME Calculator on KDE, because I dislike both KDE calculators, and I use Ark on GNOME with a Nautilus script, as File Roller doesn’t allow me to set the compression ratio (I need to create zip files with 0 compression for modding games). So for me it has become the norm to mix applications created with different toolkits. Thanks to Flatpak I still have a “clean” base system though.\n
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        > Innovation or regression?\n
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      I really like gnome and how it looks. However every time I try it I find myself in need of more functionality and so I install a bunch of extensions. For example I can’t live without a dock and some sort of system tray that shows which apps are running in background.\n
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          > Because GNOME is the only DE with some potential and by not having 2 or 3 simple optional features aren’t getting more traction.\n
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          > Innovation or regression?\n
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    Because it takes manpower to develop and maintain these features?\n
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    Especially desktop icons are difficult to get right (see workarounds like “ReIcon” on Windows). E. g. keeping icon positions across multiple monitors and varying resolutions and displays (which can be unplugged at any time). They can also be a privacy-issue, e. g. when doing a presentation.\n
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          > Because GNOME is the only DE with some potential and by not having 2 or 3 simple optional features aren’t getting more traction.\n
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          [Because](https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/gnome-desktop-icons-removed-3-28) the code was “old and unmaintained” and probably no one was willing to modernise and maintain it. Desktop icons were already disabled by default before 3.28, so they didn’t “re-invent” this feature with the removal of the code in Nautilus.\n
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          > Innovation or regression?\n
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    Because it takes manpower to develop and maintain these features?\n
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    Especially desktop icons are difficult to get right (see workarounds like “ReIcon” on Windows). E. g. keeping icon positions across multiple monitors and varying resolutions and displays (which can be unplugged at any time). They can also be a privacy-issue, e. g. when doing a presentation.\n
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      I really like gnome and how it looks. However every time I try it I find myself in need of more functionality and so I install a bunch of extensions. For example I can’t live without a dock and some sort of system tray that shows which apps are running in background.\n
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          > Because GNOME is the only DE with some potential and by not having 2 or 3 simple optional features aren’t getting more traction.\n
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          > Innovation or regression?\n
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    Because it takes manpower to develop and maintain these features?\n
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    > Because GNOME is the only DE with some potential and by not having 2 or 3 simple optional features aren’t getting more traction.\n
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    I use GNOME and KDE and use the same applications (as Flatpaks) on both desktops: I use GNOME Calculator on KDE, because I dislike both KDE calculators, and I use Ark on GNOME with a Nautilus script, as File Roller doesn’t allow me to set the compression ratio (I need to create zip files with 0 compression for modding games). So for me it has become the norm to mix applications created with different toolkits. Thanks to Flatpak I still have a “clean” base system though.\n
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          Because it takes manpower to develop and maintain these features?\n
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    > Because GNOME is the only DE with some potential and by not having 2 or 3 simple optional features aren’t getting more traction.\n
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    But everyone has different requirements and my “2 or 3 simple optional features” that are missing are completely different than what you think is missing. I couldn’t care less about desktop icons or system trays. I even prefer not having a system tray, as this functionality should be provided via notifications and regular application shortcuts in my opinion.\n
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    But in the end, a software project only has a limited amount of resources available and developers have to decide where they want to focus on. GNOME chose not to focus on desktop icons:\n
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    > GNOME had icons, v3.28 discontinued them\n
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    [Because](https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/gnome-desktop-icons-removed-3-28) the code was “old and unmaintained” and probably no one was willing to modernise and maintain it. Desktop icons were already disabled by default before 3.28, so they didn’t “re-invent” this feature with the removal of the code in Nautilus.\n
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    I use GNOME and KDE and use the same applications (as Flatpaks) on both desktops: I use GNOME Calculator on KDE, because I dislike both KDE calculators, and I use Ark on GNOME with a Nautilus script, as File Roller doesn’t allow me to set the compression ratio (I need to create zip files with 0 compression for modding games). So for me it has become the norm to mix applications created with different toolkits. Thanks to Flatpak I still have a “clean” base system though.\n
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          Because it takes manpower to develop and maintain these features?\n
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          > Innovation or regression?\n
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    > Because GNOME is the only DE with some potential and by not having 2 or 3 simple optional features aren’t getting more traction.\n
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    [Because](https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/gnome-desktop-icons-removed-3-28) the code was “old and unmaintained” and probably no one was willing to modernise and maintain it. Desktop icons were already disabled by default before 3.28, so they didn’t “re-invent” this feature with the removal of the code in Nautilus.\n
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    I use GNOME and KDE and use the same applications (as Flatpaks) on both desktops: I use GNOME Calculator on KDE, because I dislike both KDE calculators, and I use Ark on GNOME with a Nautilus script, as File Roller doesn’t allow me to set the compression ratio (I need to create zip files with 0 compression for modding games). So for me it has become the norm to mix applications created with different toolkits. Thanks to Flatpak I still have a “clean” base system though.\n
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          Because it takes manpower to develop and maintain these features?\n
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          > Because GNOME is the only DE with some potential and by not having 2 or 3 simple optional features aren’t getting more traction.\n
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          I use GNOME and KDE and use the same applications (as Flatpaks) on both desktops: I use GNOME Calculator on KDE, because I dislike both KDE calculators, and I use Ark on GNOME with a Nautilus script, as File Roller doesn’t allow me to set the compression ratio (I need to create zip files with 0 compression for modding games). So for me it has become the norm to mix applications created with different toolkits. Thanks to Flatpak I still have a “clean” base system though.\n
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    > Innovation or regression?\n
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    Innovation doesn’t necessarily mean that all past functionality needs to be carried over. Actually innovation often means that past technology becomes obsolete and gets replaced with something new.\n
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          Because it takes manpower to develop and maintain these features?\n
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          > Because GNOME is the only DE with some potential and by not having 2 or 3 simple optional features aren’t getting more traction.\n
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          [Because](https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/gnome-desktop-icons-removed-3-28) the code was “old and unmaintained” and probably no one was willing to modernise and maintain it. Desktop icons were already disabled by default before 3.28, so they didn’t “re-invent” this feature with the removal of the code in Nautilus.\n
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    > Innovation or regression?\n
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    Innovation doesn’t necessarily mean that all past functionality needs to be carried over. Actually innovation often means that past technology becomes obsolete and gets replaced with something new.\n
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    > Gnome used to have optional desktop icons. They removed them.\n
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          Because it takes manpower to develop and maintain these features?\n
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          > Because GNOME is the only DE with some potential and by not having 2 or 3 simple optional features aren’t getting more traction.\n
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          But everyone has different requirements and my “2 or 3 simple optional features” that are missing are completely different than what you think is missing. I couldn’t care less about desktop icons or system trays. I even prefer not having a system tray, as this functionality should be provided via notifications and regular application shortcuts in my opinion.\n
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          [Because](https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/gnome-desktop-icons-removed-3-28) the code was “old and unmaintained” and probably no one was willing to modernise and maintain it. Desktop icons were already disabled by default before 3.28, so they didn’t “re-invent” this feature with the removal of the code in Nautilus.\n
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        I can’t stand rolling releases (for personal use) and I never recommend them to anyone. To me it feels like being in drift sand.\n
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        I’ve used Arch Linux and openSUSE Tumbleweed in the past and I have been using Linux for over 10 years …\n
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        With each new version of an application there’s the change that configuration files or functionality changes. Packages might even get replaced with others.\n
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        With a fixed release all these changes are nicely bundled in one large upgrade every couple of months/years, which makes it easy to document and to plan when to do the upgrade.
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        > how would that impact your configuration?\n
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        It impacts my documentation. If, for example, `gsettings set org.gnome.software allow-update false` no longer works, because they changed the key from `allow-update` to `updates-allowed`, then my documentation no longer works correctly. Same when new technology is introduced, e. g. a switch from Pulseaudio to Pipewire. With a rolling release distribution these changes can happen at any time, whereas with a fixed release these changes only occur when a new release of the distribution is made and I upgrade to it.\n
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        I don’t have the time to continously track these changes and modify my documentation accordingly. Therefore I appreciate it if people bundle all those changes for me into one single distribution upgrade and write release notes with a changelog. Then I can spend a day reading the release notes, adjust the documentation, apply the upgrade on all devices and then move on for the next couple of months/years.\n
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        > which as nothing to do with rolling release or distributions.\n
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        I tried to explain to you why I dislike rolling release distributions. That’s why I tried to give you one example where a fixed release distribution is more suitable in my opinion.\n
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        I understand that these things might not matter to you, if you only have one computer (or so) to maintain at home or maintaining home computers is your hobby. But I have four personal computers and multiple devices from the family to maintain and system administration is no longer my hobby …
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        > but you are writing documentation for scripts?\n
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        No, I document my installations with scripts, so that I am able to install multiple computers the same way.
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        I can’t stand rolling releases (for personal use) and I never recommend them to anyone. To me it feels like being in drift sand.\n
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        I’ve used Arch Linux and openSUSE Tumbleweed in the past and I have been using Linux for over 10 years …\n
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        > how would that impact your configuration?\n
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        It impacts my documentation. If, for example, `gsettings set org.gnome.software allow-update false` no longer works, because they changed the key from `allow-update` to `updates-allowed`, then my documentation no longer works correctly. Same when new technology is introduced, e. g. a switch from Pulseaudio to Pipewire. With a rolling release distribution these changes can happen at any time, whereas with a fixed release these changes only occur when a new release of the distribution is made and I upgrade to it.\n
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        I don’t have the time to continously track these changes and modify my documentation accordingly. Therefore I appreciate it if people bundle all those changes for me into one single distribution upgrade and write release notes with a changelog. Then I can spend a day reading the release notes, adjust the documentation, apply the upgrade on all devices and then move on for the next couple of months/years.\n
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        > which as nothing to do with rolling release or distributions.\n
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        > but you are writing documentation for scripts?\n
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        No, I document my installations with scripts, so that I am able to install multiple computers the same way.
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    I think that installation was originally 18.04 and I installed it when it was released. A while ago anyways and I’ve been upgrading it as new versions roll out and with the latest upgrade and snapd software it has become more and more annoying to keep the operating system happy and out of my way so I can do whatever I need to do on the computer.\n
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        I can’t stand rolling releases (for personal use) and I never recommend them to anyone. To me it feels like being in drift sand.\n
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        I’ve used Arch Linux and openSUSE Tumbleweed in the past and I have been using Linux for over 10 years …\n
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        With each new version of an application there’s the change that configuration files or functionality changes. Packages might even get replaced with others.\n
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        You would be surprised how much changes between Ubuntu LTS versions … My archived Ubuntu installation script had lots of if-statements for different versions of Ubuntu, since stuff got moved around. Such things can be as simple as gsettings schemas (keys might get renamed), but even these minor changes make documentation and therefore reproducable reinstallations troublesome.\n
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        > how would that impact your configuration?\n
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        It impacts my documentation. If, for example, `gsettings set org.gnome.software allow-update false` no longer works, because they changed the key from `allow-update` to `updates-allowed`, then my documentation no longer works correctly. Same when new technology is introduced, e. g. a switch from Pulseaudio to Pipewire. With a rolling release distribution these changes can happen at any time, whereas with a fixed release these changes only occur when a new release of the distribution is made and I upgrade to it.\n
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        I don’t have the time to continously track these changes and modify my documentation accordingly. Therefore I appreciate it if people bundle all those changes for me into one single distribution upgrade and write release notes with a changelog. Then I can spend a day reading the release notes, adjust the documentation, apply the upgrade on all devices and then move on for the next couple of months/years.\n
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        > which as nothing to do with rolling release or distributions.\n
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        I tried to explain to you why I dislike rolling release distributions. That’s why I tried to give you one example where a fixed release distribution is more suitable in my opinion.\n
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        I understand that these things might not matter to you, if you only have one computer (or so) to maintain at home or maintaining home computers is your hobby. But I have four personal computers and multiple devices from the family to maintain and system administration is no longer my hobby …
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          I’ve used Arch Linux and openSUSE Tumbleweed in the past and I have been using Linux for over 10 years …\n
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          > how would that impact your configuration?\n
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          It impacts my documentation. If, for example, `gsettings set org.gnome.software allow-update false` no longer works, because they changed the key from `allow-update` to `updates-allowed`, then my documentation no longer works correctly. Same when new technology is introduced, e. g. a switch from Pulseaudio to Pipewire. With a rolling release distribution these changes can happen at any time, whereas with a fixed release these changes only occur when a new release of the distribution is made and I upgrade to it.\n
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          > which as nothing to do with rolling release or distributions.\n
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    I can’t stand rolling releases (for personal use) and I never recommend them to anyone. To me it feels like being in drift sand.\n
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      I think that installation was originally 18.04 and I installed it when it was released. A while ago anyways and I’ve been upgrading it as new versions roll out and with the latest upgrade and snapd software it has become more and more annoying to keep the operating system happy and out of my way so I can do whatever I need to do on the computer.\n
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      Snap updates have been annoying and they randomly (and temporarily) broke stuff while some update process was running on background, but as whole reinstallation is a pain in the rear I have just swallowed the annoyance and kept the thing running.\n
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          I’ve used Arch Linux and openSUSE Tumbleweed in the past and I have been using Linux for over 10 years …\n
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          With each new version of an application there’s the change that configuration files or functionality changes. Packages might even get replaced with others.\n
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          > how would that impact your configuration?\n
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          It impacts my documentation. If, for example, `gsettings set org.gnome.software allow-update false` no longer works, because they changed the key from `allow-update` to `updates-allowed`, then my documentation no longer works correctly. Same when new technology is introduced, e. g. a switch from Pulseaudio to Pipewire. With a rolling release distribution these changes can happen at any time, whereas with a fixed release these changes only occur when a new release of the distribution is made and I upgrade to it.\n
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          > which as nothing to do with rolling release or distributions.\n
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          I understand that these things might not matter to you, if you only have one computer (or so) to maintain at home or maintaining home computers is your hobby. But I have four personal computers and multiple devices from the family to maintain and system administration is no longer my hobby …
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          > but you are writing documentation for scripts?\n
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          No, I document my installations with scripts, so that I am able to install multiple computers the same way.
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    I can’t stand rolling releases (for personal use) and I never recommend them to anyone. To me it feels like being in drift sand.\n
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    I need fixed releases to test my documentation (shell scripts) against something. With a rolling release those scripts can break at any time, unless you read the changelog of every package update.\n
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      So I grabbed my ventoy-drive, downloaded latest mint ISO on it and instead of doing something productive I planned to do I’ll spend couple of hours at reinstalling the whole system. It’ll be quite a while before I install ubuntu on anything.\n
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      And it’s not just this one broken update, like I mentioned I’ve had a lot of issues with the setup and at least majority of them is caused by ubuntu and it’s package management. This was just a tipping point to finally leave that abusive relationship with my tool and set it up so that I can actually use it instead of figuring out what’s broken now and next.
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          I’ve used Arch Linux and openSUSE Tumbleweed in the past and I have been using Linux for over 10 years …\n
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          With each new version of an application there’s the change that configuration files or functionality changes. Packages might even get replaced with others.\n
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          > how would that impact your configuration?\n
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          It impacts my documentation. If, for example, `gsettings set org.gnome.software allow-update false` no longer works, because they changed the key from `allow-update` to `updates-allowed`, then my documentation no longer works correctly. Same when new technology is introduced, e. g. a switch from Pulseaudio to Pipewire. With a rolling release distribution these changes can happen at any time, whereas with a fixed release these changes only occur when a new release of the distribution is made and I upgrade to it.\n
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          I don’t have the time to continously track these changes and modify my documentation accordingly. Therefore I appreciate it if people bundle all those changes for me into one single distribution upgrade and write release notes with a changelog. Then I can spend a day reading the release notes, adjust the documentation, apply the upgrade on all devices and then move on for the next couple of months/years.\n
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          > which as nothing to do with rolling release or distributions.\n
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          I understand that these things might not matter to you, if you only have one computer (or so) to maintain at home or maintaining home computers is your hobby. But I have four personal computers and multiple devices from the family to maintain and system administration is no longer my hobby …
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          > but you are writing documentation for scripts?\n
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    I can’t stand rolling releases (for personal use) and I never recommend them to anyone. To me it feels like being in drift sand.\n
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          > how would that impact your configuration?\n
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          It impacts my documentation. If, for example, `gsettings set org.gnome.software allow-update false` no longer works, because they changed the key from `allow-update` to `updates-allowed`, then my documentation no longer works correctly. Same when new technology is introduced, e. g. a switch from Pulseaudio to Pipewire. With a rolling release distribution these changes can happen at any time, whereas with a fixed release these changes only occur when a new release of the distribution is made and I upgrade to it.\n
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          > but you are writing documentation for scripts?\n
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    I’ve used Arch Linux and openSUSE Tumbleweed in the past and I have been using Linux for over 10 years …\n
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    With each new version of an application there’s the change that configuration files or functionality changes. Packages might even get replaced with others.\n
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      I think that installation was originally 18.04 and I installed it when it was released. A while ago anyways and I’ve been upgrading it as new versions roll out and with the latest upgrade and snapd software it has become more and more annoying to keep the operating system happy and out of my way so I can do whatever I need to do on the computer.\n
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          > how would that impact your configuration?\n
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          It impacts my documentation. If, for example, `gsettings set org.gnome.software allow-update false` no longer works, because they changed the key from `allow-update` to `updates-allowed`, then my documentation no longer works correctly. Same when new technology is introduced, e. g. a switch from Pulseaudio to Pipewire. With a rolling release distribution these changes can happen at any time, whereas with a fixed release these changes only occur when a new release of the distribution is made and I upgrade to it.\n
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          > which as nothing to do with rolling release or distributions.\n
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    I’ve used Arch Linux and openSUSE Tumbleweed in the past and I have been using Linux for over 10 years …\n
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    With each new version of an application there’s the change that configuration files or functionality changes. Packages might even get replaced with others.\n
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    You would be surprised how much changes between Ubuntu LTS versions … My archived Ubuntu installation script had lots of if-statements for different versions of Ubuntu, since stuff got moved around. Such things can be as simple as gsettings schemas (keys might get renamed), but even these minor changes make documentation and therefore reproducable reinstallations troublesome.\n
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      I think that installation was originally 18.04 and I installed it when it was released. A while ago anyways and I’ve been upgrading it as new versions roll out and with the latest upgrade and snapd software it has become more and more annoying to keep the operating system happy and out of my way so I can do whatever I need to do on the computer.\n
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      Snap updates have been annoying and they randomly (and temporarily) broke stuff while some update process was running on background, but as whole reinstallation is a pain in the rear I have just swallowed the annoyance and kept the thing running.\n
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          I can’t stand rolling releases (for personal use) and I never recommend them to anyone. To me it feels like being in drift sand.\n
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          I need fixed releases to test my documentation (shell scripts) against something. With a rolling release those scripts can break at any time, unless you read the changelog of every package update.\n
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          > how would that impact your configuration?\n
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          It impacts my documentation. If, for example, `gsettings set org.gnome.software allow-update false` no longer works, because they changed the key from `allow-update` to `updates-allowed`, then my documentation no longer works correctly. Same when new technology is introduced, e. g. a switch from Pulseaudio to Pipewire. With a rolling release distribution these changes can happen at any time, whereas with a fixed release these changes only occur when a new release of the distribution is made and I upgrade to it.\n
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          > which as nothing to do with rolling release or distributions.\n
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          I understand that these things might not matter to you, if you only have one computer (or so) to maintain at home or maintaining home computers is your hobby. But I have four personal computers and multiple devices from the family to maintain and system administration is no longer my hobby …
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      I think that installation was originally 18.04 and I installed it when it was released. A while ago anyways and I’ve been upgrading it as new versions roll out and with the latest upgrade and snapd software it has become more and more annoying to keep the operating system happy and out of my way so I can do whatever I need to do on the computer.\n
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      Snap updates have been annoying and they randomly (and temporarily) broke stuff while some update process was running on background, but as whole reinstallation is a pain in the rear I have just swallowed the annoyance and kept the thing running.\n
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      After couple of swear words I thought that ok, I’ll fix this, I’ll install all the updates and make the system happy again. But no. That’s not going to happen, at least not very easily.\n
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      I’m running LUKS encryption and thus I have a separate boot -partition. 700MB of it. I don’t remember if installer recommended that or if I just threw some reasonable sounding amount on the installer. No matter where that originally came from, it should be enough (this other ubuntu I’m writing this with has 157MB stored on /boot). I removed older kernels, but still the installer claims that I need at least 480MB (or something like that) free space on /boot, but the single kernel image, initrd and whatever crap it includes consumes 280MB (or so). So apt just fails on upgrade as it can’t generate new initrd or whatever it tries to do.\n
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      So I grabbed my ventoy-drive, downloaded latest mint ISO on it and instead of doing something productive I planned to do I’ll spend couple of hours at reinstalling the whole system. It’ll be quite a while before I install ubuntu on anything.\n
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          I can’t stand rolling releases (for personal use) and I never recommend them to anyone. To me it feels like being in drift sand.\n
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          I’ve used Arch Linux and openSUSE Tumbleweed in the past and I have been using Linux for over 10 years …\n
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          > but you are writing documentation for scripts?\n
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          No, I document my installations with scripts, so that I am able to install multiple computers the same way.
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    > how would that impact your configuration?\n
    \n
    It impacts my documentation. If, for example, `gsettings set org.gnome.software allow-update false` no longer works, because they changed the key from `allow-update` to `updates-allowed`, then my documentation no longer works correctly. Same when new technology is introduced, e. g. a switch from Pulseaudio to Pipewire. With a rolling release distribution these changes can happen at any time, whereas with a fixed release these changes only occur when a new release of the distribution is made and I upgrade to it.\n
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    I don’t have the time to continously track these changes and modify my documentation accordingly. Therefore I appreciate it if people bundle all those changes for me into one single distribution upgrade and write release notes with a changelog. Then I can spend a day reading the release notes, adjust the documentation, apply the upgrade on all devices and then move on for the next couple of months/years.\n
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    > which as nothing to do with rolling release or distributions.\n
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    I tried to explain to you why I dislike rolling release distributions. That’s why I tried to give you one example where a fixed release distribution is more suitable in my opinion.\n
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    I understand that these things might not matter to you, if you only have one computer (or so) to maintain at home or maintaining home computers is your hobby. But I have four personal computers and multiple devices from the family to maintain and system administration is no longer my hobby …
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      I think that installation was originally 18.04 and I installed it when it was released. A while ago anyways and I’ve been upgrading it as new versions roll out and with the latest upgrade and snapd software it has become more and more annoying to keep the operating system happy and out of my way so I can do whatever I need to do on the computer.\n
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      Snap updates have been annoying and they randomly (and temporarily) broke stuff while some update process was running on background, but as whole reinstallation is a pain in the rear I have just swallowed the annoyance and kept the thing running.\n
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      After couple of swear words I thought that ok, I’ll fix this, I’ll install all the updates and make the system happy again. But no. That’s not going to happen, at least not very easily.\n
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          I can’t stand rolling releases (for personal use) and I never recommend them to anyone. To me it feels like being in drift sand.\n
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          I’ve used Arch Linux and openSUSE Tumbleweed in the past and I have been using Linux for over 10 years …\n
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          > but you are writing documentation for scripts?\n
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    > how would that impact your configuration?\n
    \n
    It impacts my documentation. If, for example, `gsettings set org.gnome.software allow-update false` no longer works, because they changed the key from `allow-update` to `updates-allowed`, then my documentation no longer works correctly. Same when new technology is introduced, e. g. a switch from Pulseaudio to Pipewire. With a rolling release distribution these changes can happen at any time, whereas with a fixed release these changes only occur when a new release of the distribution is made and I upgrade to it.\n
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    I don’t have the time to continously track these changes and modify my documentation accordingly. Therefore I appreciate it if people bundle all those changes for me into one single distribution upgrade and write release notes with a changelog. Then I can spend a day reading the release notes, adjust the documentation, apply the upgrade on all devices and then move on for the next couple of months/years.\n
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    > which as nothing to do with rolling release or distributions.\n
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    I tried to explain to you why I dislike rolling release distributions. That’s why I tried to give you one example where a fixed release distribution is more suitable in my opinion.\n
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    I understand that these things might not matter to you, if you only have one computer (or so) to maintain at home or maintaining home computers is your hobby. But I have four personal computers and multiple devices from the family to maintain and system administration is no longer my hobby …
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      And it’s not just this one broken update, like I mentioned I’ve had a lot of issues with the setup and at least majority of them is caused by ubuntu and it’s package management. This was just a tipping point to finally leave that abusive relationship with my tool and set it up so that I can actually use it instead of figuring out what’s broken now and next.
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          I’ve used Arch Linux and openSUSE Tumbleweed in the past and I have been using Linux for over 10 years …\n
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          > but you are writing documentation for scripts?\n
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    > how would that impact your configuration?\n
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    It impacts my documentation. If, for example, `gsettings set org.gnome.software allow-update false` no longer works, because they changed the key from `allow-update` to `updates-allowed`, then my documentation no longer works correctly. Same when new technology is introduced, e. g. a switch from Pulseaudio to Pipewire. With a rolling release distribution these changes can happen at any time, whereas with a fixed release these changes only occur when a new release of the distribution is made and I upgrade to it.\n
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    I don’t have the time to continously track these changes and modify my documentation accordingly. Therefore I appreciate it if people bundle all those changes for me into one single distribution upgrade and write release notes with a changelog. Then I can spend a day reading the release notes, adjust the documentation, apply the upgrade on all devices and then move on for the next couple of months/years.\n
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    > which as nothing to do with rolling release or distributions.\n
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    I tried to explain to you why I dislike rolling release distributions. That’s why I tried to give you one example where a fixed release distribution is more suitable in my opinion.\n
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    I understand that these things might not matter to you, if you only have one computer (or so) to maintain at home or maintaining home computers is your hobby. But I have four personal computers and multiple devices from the family to maintain and system administration is no longer my hobby …
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          I’ve used Arch Linux and openSUSE Tumbleweed in the past and I have been using Linux for over 10 years …\n
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          With each new version of an application there’s the change that configuration files or functionality changes. Packages might even get replaced with others.\n
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          You would be surprised how much changes between Ubuntu LTS versions … My archived Ubuntu installation script had lots of if-statements for different versions of Ubuntu, since stuff got moved around. Such things can be as simple as gsettings schemas (keys might get renamed), but even these minor changes make documentation and therefore reproducable reinstallations troublesome.\n
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          With a fixed release all these changes are nicely bundled in one large upgrade every couple of months/years, which makes it easy to document and to plan when to do the upgrade.
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          > how would that impact your configuration?\n
          \n
          It impacts my documentation. If, for example, `gsettings set org.gnome.software allow-update false` no longer works, because they changed the key from `allow-update` to `updates-allowed`, then my documentation no longer works correctly. Same when new technology is introduced, e. g. a switch from Pulseaudio to Pipewire. With a rolling release distribution these changes can happen at any time, whereas with a fixed release these changes only occur when a new release of the distribution is made and I upgrade to it.\n
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          I don’t have the time to continously track these changes and modify my documentation accordingly. Therefore I appreciate it if people bundle all those changes for me into one single distribution upgrade and write release notes with a changelog. Then I can spend a day reading the release notes, adjust the documentation, apply the upgrade on all devices and then move on for the next couple of months/years.\n
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          > which as nothing to do with rolling release or distributions.\n
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          I understand that these things might not matter to you, if you only have one computer (or so) to maintain at home or maintaining home computers is your hobby. But I have four personal computers and multiple devices from the family to maintain and system administration is no longer my hobby …
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    > but you are writing documentation for scripts?\n
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    No, I document my installations with scripts, so that I am able to install multiple computers the same way.
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      I think that installation was originally 18.04 and I installed it when it was released. A while ago anyways and I’ve been upgrading it as new versions roll out and with the latest upgrade and snapd software it has become more and more annoying to keep the operating system happy and out of my way so I can do whatever I need to do on the computer.\n
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      Snap updates have been annoying and they randomly (and temporarily) broke stuff while some update process was running on background, but as whole reinstallation is a pain in the rear I have just swallowed the annoyance and kept the thing running.\n
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          I can’t stand rolling releases (for personal use) and I never recommend them to anyone. To me it feels like being in drift sand.\n
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          I’ve used Arch Linux and openSUSE Tumbleweed in the past and I have been using Linux for over 10 years …\n
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          > how would that impact your configuration?\n
          \n
          It impacts my documentation. If, for example, `gsettings set org.gnome.software allow-update false` no longer works, because they changed the key from `allow-update` to `updates-allowed`, then my documentation no longer works correctly. Same when new technology is introduced, e. g. a switch from Pulseaudio to Pipewire. With a rolling release distribution these changes can happen at any time, whereas with a fixed release these changes only occur when a new release of the distribution is made and I upgrade to it.\n
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          I don’t have the time to continously track these changes and modify my documentation accordingly. Therefore I appreciate it if people bundle all those changes for me into one single distribution upgrade and write release notes with a changelog. Then I can spend a day reading the release notes, adjust the documentation, apply the upgrade on all devices and then move on for the next couple of months/years.\n
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          > which as nothing to do with rolling release or distributions.\n
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          I tried to explain to you why I dislike rolling release distributions. That’s why I tried to give you one example where a fixed release distribution is more suitable in my opinion.\n
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          I understand that these things might not matter to you, if you only have one computer (or so) to maintain at home or maintaining home computers is your hobby. But I have four personal computers and multiple devices from the family to maintain and system administration is no longer my hobby …
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    > but you are writing documentation for scripts?\n
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    No, I document my installations with scripts, so that I am able to install multiple computers the same way.
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      I think that installation was originally 18.04 and I installed it when it was released. A while ago anyways and I’ve been upgrading it as new versions roll out and with the latest upgrade and snapd software it has become more and more annoying to keep the operating system happy and out of my way so I can do whatever I need to do on the computer.\n
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      Snap updates have been annoying and they randomly (and temporarily) broke stuff while some update process was running on background, but as whole reinstallation is a pain in the rear I have just swallowed the annoyance and kept the thing running.\n
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      After couple of swear words I thought that ok, I’ll fix this, I’ll install all the updates and make the system happy again. But no. That’s not going to happen, at least not very easily.\n
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          I can’t stand rolling releases (for personal use) and I never recommend them to anyone. To me it feels like being in drift sand.\n
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          But I also want and use fully automatic updates, so reading changelogs for every update would be the direct opposite of what I am looking for in an OS. I am ok with reading release notes every couple of months for a distribution upgrade though.\n
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          I’ve used Arch Linux and openSUSE Tumbleweed in the past and I have been using Linux for over 10 years …\n
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          > how would that impact your configuration?\n
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          It impacts my documentation. If, for example, `gsettings set org.gnome.software allow-update false` no longer works, because they changed the key from `allow-update` to `updates-allowed`, then my documentation no longer works correctly. Same when new technology is introduced, e. g. a switch from Pulseaudio to Pipewire. With a rolling release distribution these changes can happen at any time, whereas with a fixed release these changes only occur when a new release of the distribution is made and I upgrade to it.\n
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          > which as nothing to do with rolling release or distributions.\n
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          I tried to explain to you why I dislike rolling release distributions. That’s why I tried to give you one example where a fixed release distribution is more suitable in my opinion.\n
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          I understand that these things might not matter to you, if you only have one computer (or so) to maintain at home or maintaining home computers is your hobby. But I have four personal computers and multiple devices from the family to maintain and system administration is no longer my hobby …
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      Up to now I’ve been using Simplenote, which has a Linux client (but also Android & iOS) & supports live collaboration on notes. However, Simplenote hasn’t had a meaningful update for a long time, & it’s recently been behaving strangely, e.g. notes undeleting themselves, line duplications & undeletions.\n
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      Can anyone recommend an alternative? Spinning up an ownCloud/nextcloud instance just to use Joplin feels a little overkill. I stumbled across turtl, but the project looks abandoned.
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    You don’t need your own server to use Joplin. You can select a local directory to store your notes and sync this directory with [Syncthing](https://syncthing.net/) between devices.\n
    \n
    I am not sure if this works with iOS though.
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